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Started by almightymouse, January 02, 2016, 01:49:54 AM

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Lyndsey

Quote from: Joan on January 02, 2016, 04:28:42 PM
Ain't that the truth. I'm 6'2" (last time I measured) and the women around me are on average 5'3". I get for more attention when standing up that when sitting down.

WOW!

Katelynn Jenner is 6'-5" and Candice Caine is 6'-4" then they wear 4" or 5" heels that is why they have to duck when going from room to room.

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Joan

Quote from: Lyndsey on January 02, 2016, 04:34:47 PM
WOW!

Katelynn Jenner is 6'-5" and Candice Caine is 6'-4" then they wear 4" or 5" heels that is why they have to duck when going from room to room.

Lyndsey

I feel for them. Walked out of the ladies in a restaurant the other day, hit my head on the doorframe, and my wig shifted back about half an inch. At least it didn't fall off lol.

And I was wearing flats :D
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Lyndsey

Quote from: Joan on January 02, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
I feel for them. Walked out of the ladies in a restaurant the other day, hit my head on the doorframe, and my wig shifted back about half an inch. At least it didn't fall off lol.

And I was wearing flats :D

Oh My God Joan

That is too funny even though it isn't. I have to wear my heel so that I can put dishes away in my top cabinets. or change a light bulb.

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Joan

Quote from: Lyndsey on January 02, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
Oh My God Joan

That is too funny even though it isn't. I have to wear my heel so that I can put dishes away in my top cabinets. or change a light bulb.

Lyndsey

No, it was too funny :D

I have friend who is 4'11" and she can't reach anything on the shelves in my kitchen. She does get to wear the cutest clothes. i had one woman tell me she wished she was as tall as I was because it was so attractive. There are positives and negatives to everything.

If you're tall then you're going to stand out. There are good reasons for being proud of what you have.
Only a dark cocoon before I get my gorgeous wings and fly away
Only a phase, these dark cafe days
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Dana88

Quote from: almightymouse on January 02, 2016, 01:49:54 AM
Hi Everyone,

I've found recently that I'm kind of ambivalent about my height, which I'm aware I can't change. I do want a realistic perspective on the problem of height, however.

To start, I'm 5 ft. 9.5. Whether to round up or down, I have no clue, so I'll just accept that I'm halfway between the two. Sometimes, it really frustrates me, yet sometimes I manage to cope with it. A lot of my opinion regarding my stature is mediated by what people have to say about it since, unfortunately, my desire to pass goes hand-in-hand with what people deem to be feminine (not what I myself picture as being feminine).

The other day, this guy who was talking to me online was going on about how attractive he thought I was (knowing that I'm trans), but once I confessed how tall I am, he stated that he just sort of assumes that girls that are 5 ft 7+ are transsexual. He insisted that so many of the stares I mention getting must be grounded in people trying to figure out if I'm transsexual because of my height. It really hurt.

I then tried rationalizing with him, telling him that super models and volleyball players are around my height. "Yeah, but they're supermodels and volleyball players, so it actually makes sense", he maintained. I then asked him if he has ever been to a city, where a six-foot-tall chick doesn't mean anything, and he said he lives in a huge metropolitan area. He stated that I must be surrounded by Amazonian women for people not to make a huge deal out of my height. Obviously, it hurt, because he had no problem with me being trans until I stated that I'm tall.

Yet, I start Googling things, and I encountered this "Ideal Female Height" forum, in which the first six posters all maintained that heights ranging from 5 ft. 9 to 6 ft. in females is very attractive "because legs".
My boyfriend obviously likes my height, and he says it's okay because I'm slender (with 6.3-inch wrists, 16-inch shoulders, and 35-27-38 measurements), yet people still makes fun of it, which hurts since I can't do anything about it.

So, is height something that will prompt people to wonder if I'm transsexual, even as a very passable trans woman? Is 5 ft 9.5 a big deal, notably in the big city, like where I live?  At what point does height become a legitimate concern for someone who is afraid of being clocked?

I'm really curious about others' perspectives.

Sincerely,
Ally

I am 5'9" on the dot and have no problem passing, and I ALWAYS wear heels, bringing me closer to 6'. Sometimes I see other women stare at me on the street, but usually they stare, then look at my shoes, see my heels, and then keep on moving. I've had multiple cis girls who had no clue that I'm trans comment on how jealous they are of my height. My best friend, a cis girl, is 5'8", and then I have in my group of friends cis girlfriends who are 5'8" and 5'9". My closest family friends, the mother is 6', and they have two daughters, one 5'9", one 6'. So they idea that any girl over 5'7" is immediately "clockable" is utterly ridiculous. That's my two cents :-P. What I think people clock is insecurity. So if you're 5'9", OWN THAT MODEL HEIGHT! Work it!
~Dana
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Lyndsey

Quote from: Joan on January 02, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
No, it was too funny :D

I have friend who is 4'11" and she can't reach anything on the shelves in my kitchen. She does get to wear the cutest clothes. i had one woman tell me she wished she was as tall as I was because it was so attractive. There are positives and negatives to everything.

If you're tall then you're going to stand out. There are good reasons for being proud of what you have.

Hi Joan

I guess you are right. at least I can wear heel and still not be taller than most people. My Guy Scott is 6'-4" like my brothers. I don't have to worry about hitting my head. But is is have to change that light bulb and reach up high. and when I sit in my Jeep Sahara i have a seat that raises for me so I can look over the steering wheel. Heel don't lift your ass on a seat. LOL
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Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Sharon Anne McC


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I was among the taller of my school grade until 7th Grade through 9th Grade; my class-mates grew around me and I was suddenly in the middle average.

Then I had another growth spurt and topped at 5'11"; again I felt awkward so I took advantage and played on the high school basketball team where I was short among seven-footers.  That solved my self-consciousness of height.

I joined a 'tall club' when I began transitioning and again was among the shorter of the other women; 5'10" was the entry height.  I did work as a videographer; being taller helpt get a good view over the shorter heads in front of me.

Yep.  It is about perspective. 

I came to accept and 'own' my tallness; I like my height.  Hopefully, you will accept yours.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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Gertrude

I'm 6'5. I wish I was 5'8. It would make things easier and I'd pass.


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Mallory

Quote from: almightymouse on January 02, 2016, 04:30:40 AM
Now that you've said that, it almost sounds like some men just have deep-seated confidence issues. I'm trying to imagine how that might work -- labeling any female who's 5 ft. 8+ as "formerly a man"...? Maybe it stems from intimidation, in that men want to appear ( usually) as masculine as possible, and then he sees this tall, beautiful, modelesque chick who won't even lay eyes on him. Obviously, she must be a "man" at that point (sarcasm). How deplorable.

Ally

Hit the nail on the head, sweetheart. I've had a guy flat out tell me that he wasn't attracted to women bigger than he was. He was 5'8", I was 5'9" and built like a football player. I completely emasculated him. So confidence issues? Definitely. Half the women ive dated have been bigger than I was, especially in high school.

Ps. Tell the little guy to visit the Dimond Blvd Fred Meyer in Anchorage, Alaska at around 5pm. I'm 5'9" and stand about 3-4" shorter than 90% of everyone i see in that place, including women. Something in the water for sure. But the opposite applies in Geogria/Alabama; I'm 3-4" taller than 90% of women and the same height as everyone else. Geographic region plays a hell of a role.
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Lyndsey

Quote from: Mallory on January 02, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Hit the nail on the head, sweetheart. I've had a guy flat out tell me that he wasn't attracted to women bigger than he was. He was 5'8", I was 5'9" and built like a football player. I completely emasculated him. So confidence issues? Definitely. Half the women ive dated have been bigger than I was, especially in high school.

Ps. Tell the little guy to visit the Dimond Blvd Fred Meyer in Anchorage, Alaska at around 5pm. I'm 5'9" and stand about 3-4" shorter than 90% of everyone i see in that place, including women. Something in the water for sure. But the opposite applies in Geogria/Alabama; I'm 3-4" taller than 90% of women and the same height as everyone else. Geographic region plays a hell of a role.

Hi Mallory

I know as I lived in Galena AK for years. There is 25 men for each of us women. Yahoo!

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Ms Grace

I'm 6'3"... had a dream the other night where everyone was 7 or 8 feet tall, or I had shrunk to 5 foot. It's a weird experience looking at the underside of peoples' chins, or up their noses!!
Grace
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Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
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Lyndsey

Quote from: Ms Grace on January 02, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
I'm 6'3"... had a dream the other night where everyone was 7 or 8 feet tall, or I had shrunk to 5 foot. It's a weird experience looking at the underside of peoples' chins, or up their noses!!

Oh My Grace

I'm such a shot girl and yes can you only imagine if that was me I would need my reading glasses I would be looking under your Chin but I would be looking under everybody's chin I would be able to help all of you if there was a problem.

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Serenation

You are too short to be a stormtrooper, my condolences
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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Lyndsey

Quote from: Serenation on January 02, 2016, 08:15:39 PM
You are too short to be a stormtrooper, my condolences

Hi Serenation
LOL your right!

Lyndsey
Lyndsey Marie Burke- Started my journey February 2011 Full time on May 5th 2014 HRT June 6th 2014 Name change and on all records and court documents June 20th 2014 SCS October 20th 2015 with Doctor Marci Bowers in Burlingame California I'm a very Happy women and finally living what I should have been living my whole life. Expect the unexpected. I feel Blessed. Love, Live, Be Happy. Be safe.
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Dankster

Also 5'9". I come from a Mexican family and live in an area with a Hispanic majority and damn do I feel oversized among my own people. Lmao seriously. When I'm walking down the street or at a store or restaurant or something, I'm usually the tallest. Most Hispanic dudes I see are usually like 5'7" and chics are like 5'4". But when I go to different parts of the city, like the nicer parts, I see hot chics that are like my height or taller. I've seen a few who look like models and are at least 6'3" It really depends in the area you're in. I know where I'm moving when I finish school.  ;D
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Ms Grace

Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Gertrude


Quote from: Ms Grace on January 02, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
I'm 6'3"... had a dream the other night where everyone was 7 or 8 feet tall, or I had shrunk to 5 foot. It's a weird experience looking at the underside of peoples' chins, or up their noses!!

I'm not a thin 6'5. At 19-20 I was 245 w/ 19" arms and 54" chest. No more...way overweight. Should weigh about 215.  4 years ago my LBM was 210. At 53, May be its 190 now. Amazon eve is probably under 200.  I am a long way from 215 or 245. If there is a god, it has a f'd up sense of humor putting a female like brain in an incongruent body.


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MichaelaLJ1972

I definitely feel blessed to be 5'5" tall, especially since I love very tall men.
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Jenna Marie

The average American woman is 5'5". That would seem to make 5'7" not more than one deviation off of average. But maybe I'm rationalizing, since I am 5'7" and blocky. ;) (I was 5'8" pre-HRT.) However, the consensus among everyone I've ever complained to about being too tall is that anything under 6' is just "sexy tall," not excessively tall. I think this guy is just rude and insecure, as others in the thread have said.

(And I have cis female friends over 6'; that's not saying that taller women are necessarily in trouble either.)
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schwarzwalderkirschtort

I'm ftm, but I'm 5'11/6'0 now (I grew!) and people didn't think much of it until i mentioned my age. There's lots of girls in my family who are 6'1+, don't worry! and you see girls taller than 5'6 all the time
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