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Started by Amoré, February 06, 2016, 03:55:42 AM

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Amoré

Well I have so much doubt these days that I am getting what I call internal transphobia.  :embarrassed:

Is it even possible for a trans person to lead a normal life?

Like fall into a female role have a normal relationship without the complications of being trans being seen as a woman without the "trans" clause I want normal I don't want this bigoted crap that people are placing trans persons under to rule my life. :-\

Is being completely stealth even possible.

Then I watch ted 2 and you hear crap like "there are no chicks with dicks only guys with tits". I know living as a trans person can be better than the alternatives. But I want a normal life!

Is it possible to life such a life if I transition?


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Cindy

Honey,
I have a totally normal loving, happy fulfilling life.

You can do so as well. It seems hard at the moment but it will happen.
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leacobb

Hello amore.. I have been struggling with this same question. And i know it can be hard because (some) people will never let you forget the trans part of being a transwoman... It has made me feel low on so many occasions..

But i feel that in general speaking regarding can you live a normal life then i say Yes you can.. Once you learn that there are some horrible/miss informed people out there. Who you should just feel sorry for. You will feel better because you will learn to pitty them because you are a better person than they could ever be... But also focus on the people who treat you with respect. That stranger you pass on the street who smiles politly at you and so on.... If you focus on the possitives, it dont matter how small.. You will start to think differently... I promice you...

Take care and look after yourself.. Xx

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stephaniec

I personally am having a great time being trans . For me it's just a rebirth of my Hippie days. Actually a wreath of flowers on my head would fit nicely.
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Ms Grace

I'm yet to find anyone, cis or trans, who has a "normal" life. I've met plenty who have difficult, complicated, messy, crazy, fun and fulfilled lives though.
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Cindy

Quote from: Ms Grace on February 06, 2016, 05:21:05 AM
I'm yet to find anyone, cis or trans, who has a "normal" life. I've met plenty who have difficult, complicated, messy, crazy, fun and fulfilled lives though.

True, I'll change my post, my life is nowhere near normal, but it is an absolute blast and my pre life was not somewhere anyone would wish to be.

But we can and do have great lives. It takes time, it takes adjustment but it can and should be wonderful
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suzifrommd

I lead a normal life. I have a job, go to church, have friends I see from time to time, etc.

My dating life sucks, but my cisgender sister hasn't had much better luck.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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TechGirl

Quote from: Ms Grace on February 06, 2016, 05:21:05 AM
I'm yet to find anyone, cis or trans, who has a "normal" life. I've met plenty who have difficult, complicated, messy, crazy, fun and fulfilled lives though.
Amore,

I'll second that and add this:  normalcy is  kind of like acceptance. I think of it as fitting in with the larger group you agree to compare against.

Additionally, my concept of normal may not be normal to you, and vice versa. The key is establish your own sense of normalcy and judge yourself against it.

Surround yourself with friends who accept you for who you are and you may just feel normal. IOW, just make your own normal.

And stop worrying about what others think.

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Meghan

Normal? What is it? I think I am normal but other thinking otherwise.

Luanne

Meghan Pham: MtF Transgender, Transsexual, Transwoman, social justice, Caregivers, Certified Nurse Assistant
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CinderellaMan

(Normal life)... "There is no normal life there is just life now just go live it"
        Doc holiday, that is where i heard it not sure who realy said it if any one but that is how i get up and out every day and believe it to a t.
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JessicaSondelli

Isn't the so called "normal" just a synonym for "boring"?

Ever since I started realizing that I'm trans and therefore not like the "normal" cis population I started to embrace it more and more. Yes it's hard, we struggle more, we don't get a job as easy as a cis but I would not want to trade this for a regular cis life. Honestly, I don't know why and it probably doesn't make any sense at all but I love being trans! We are the only ones to experience life from both gender perspectives and we should consider this a gift and a burden but as the good old Monty Python said:"Always look on the bright side of life!"

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Amoré

well you guys are right what is normal? Well I want to look like a normal woman to start with LOL  ::) I would love being treated as normal and not have a lot of people ask me a lot of questions when they find out I am trans and especially am I going to have the operation well for me it is absolutely a must then because as a woman on the outside I must have a V! I don't know where I am going to get the funding I wonder if some of you had ideas how come by funding for it... I will absolutely go insane if I qualify and get my letter of recommendation and can't afford it because normal woman have a V and can have sex as a woman with it. I can't imagine looking like a woman but you can't experience sex as one. Maybe not for me! Always tucking I a pain and I feel it wil make me complete and give me something in line with what my brain is telling me I must have


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Dayta

Quote from: stephaniec on February 06, 2016, 05:09:08 AM
I personally am having a great time being trans . For me it's just a rebirth of my Hippie days. Actually a wreath of flowers on my head would fit nicely.

umm, pics, please?  :o (I just missed the sixties and want to bring them back SO BAD!)

Seriously, normal is kind of an odd word to describe what one's life or one's relationships are like.  Maybe better to strive for an EXTRAORDINARY life.  We often have more choices than we think, and tend to be limited as much by our own self-imposed constraints as by those created by others.  I personally don't feel like I have a good enough imagination to figure out what I would like my future to look like, exactly.  Maybe you'll find joy where you thought you wouldn't.  Hang in there!




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JoanneB

Quote from: Ms Grace on February 06, 2016, 05:21:05 AM
I'm yet to find anyone, cis or trans, who has a "normal" life. I've met plenty who have difficult, complicated, messy, crazy, fun and fulfilled lives though.
+1
With my more so then average by a lot totally complicated, messy, and with no doubt crazy life, my therapist has the absolute nerve to tell me I am pretty well together compared to most. I have a lot different assessment.

Perhaps all the crazier without a full social transition? In so many ways, I like most people want a 'Normal' life. I'd love one with a few less 'Challenges'.

It has gotten FAR Better

Again a quote or vignette  from one of my favorite movies. The scene setup... Taking Elwood P Dowd to "The Clinic" where he'll get treated.

The Taxi Driver: ...I've been driving this route for 15 years. I've brought 'em out here to get that stuff, and I've drove 'em home after they had it. It changes them... On the way out here, they sit back and enjoy the ride. They talk to me; sometimes we stop and watch the sunsets, and look at the birds flyin'. Sometimes we stop and watch the birds when there ain't no birds. And look at the sunsets when its raining. We have a swell time. And I always get a big tip. But afterwards, oh oh...

Veta Louise Simmons: "Afterwards, oh oh"? What do you mean, "afterwards, oh oh"?

The Taxi Driver: They crab, crab, crab. They yell at me. Watch the lights. Watch the brakes, Watch the intersections. They scream at me to hurry. They got no faith in me, or my buggy. Yet, it's the same cab, the same driver. and we're going back over the very same road. It's no fun. And no tips... After this he'll be a perfectly normal human being. And you know what stinkers they are!
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Tristyn

Quote from: Amoré on February 06, 2016, 03:55:42 AM
Well I have so much doubt these days that I am getting what I call internal transphobia.  :embarrassed:

Is it even possible for a trans person to lead a normal life?

Like fall into a female role have a normal relationship without the complications of being trans being seen as a woman without the "trans" clause I want normal I don't want this bigoted crap that people are placing trans persons under to rule my life. :-\

Is being completely stealth even possible.

Then I watch ted 2 and you hear crap like "there are no chicks with dicks only guys with tits". I know living as a trans person can be better than the alternatives. But I want a normal life!

Is it possible to life such a life if I transition?

Hi Amore.

I hope you don't mind me having some input here, being a trans guy and all. But even so, I want the same thing you want.

I think it is very possible. But that's all it will ever be, a possibility, until the transition actually takes place. Maybe when you and I finally get to that place we could at least be mentally more equipped to handle the constant bull->-bleeped-<- we have to face on a daily basis all because people are so afraid of the unknown and aren't even willing to understand unless their desires get fulfilled in some way.

My perspective is that I am my own individual person just like everyone else, whether I am considered normal, abnormal, weirdo, crazy or whatever. In reality, we are what we are. We just are. I'm not bad, stupid, ugly, old, good, smart, handsome.....I am just here. Those are just bias labels that are subject to change since everyone's opinions are unique. If you believe you are normal or that you can be once you transition, then you are or can be.

IMO, no one is really normal. I say this because humans have so many diverse personalities. What's normal to you might not be "normal" to me and vice versa. But, I do think when you are talking about normal, you mean like not having painful gender dysphoria for example. When you transition, that will hopefully be alleviated and this will be the start of a dysphoria-free life. That isn't to say, it will be perfect. You, me and everyone still has problems to face. But hopefully after transitioning, as I said before, you can handle these problems much better than before.

Hope that helps.
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KarmaGirl

I'm not sure if this is going to help, but here it goes.

Life is hard enough, without you adding negative thoughts.  Easier said than done.  That's what I was told at the beginning of my transition.  (I'm about to open up a little too much so bare with me)--

At the start of my transition, I did not have the support I needed. In fact, I thought I was a little insane (please forgive that word) for doing this. I mean, I looked like your typical ALPHA male! I had muscles, height, and a shaved head to match.  In fact, they would call me Vin (after Vin Diesel---but not as buff--LOL).  I remember, trying on a wig to see if that would help me picture the woman I wanted to be, but it was REALLLY hard to see "her". Because of that, I sank into a deep depression.
 
Then a close and very young relative of mine got very sick. For months we were in the Intensive Care Unit. I kept taking my HRT meds, just like I would with my vitamins.  I never quit taking them, no matter how bad things got. The truth was, I was dedicated first to this relative, and then my HRT.  We became the topic of a news segment that went viral...so much for transitioning in private.  Pictures were posted of me and my family on the news shows. It became a circus.  The good thing was that it was able to bring awareness to a very obscure and unknown disease. Again, I kept going on my own with all my HRT meds and seeing the Doctor at a local LGBT clinic. 
I was falling apart.  There were the occasional doubts, but I knew that I couldn't stop.  Dealing with this relative, it made me think how precious life was, and how lucky I was to have this option to correct my gender. STILL, my mind couldn't see HER very well, and I had no idea what I would look like in the end.If you would have told me I could pass well, I would have laughed at you and said you were crazy.
On top of that, I had a career in Voice Over, and Film/TV!  What the heck was I going to tell those people that knew me before I transitioned? 
As time went on, I began taking pictures daily or weekly.  That's when I began seeing the changes. I couldn't with a mirror for some reason. My wife, also began to see the changes. 
Since I lived in the hospital beside our relative, I didn't have the privacy to explore my new found self.  In fact, once my boobs began to grow (mom and sis have big ones-LOL), I had to hide them with sports bras and bind them.  As you can imagine, it was hard suppressing what I was wanting soooo badly. This was going on for almost 3 years, since our relative was in and out of hospitals.
Towards the end of their death, I began to realize that I could no longer hide. It didn't matter to me, if I passed or not. Life is apparently short, and seeing this tiny creature struggle made me see things differently. In fact, I still visit her grave and chat with her about how much "SIGHT" she gave me with my own demons. It would be an insult to her, for me to hide who I was.

Finally, one of the doctors, asked me about myself. I was angry that they even attempted to ask me, since I wasn't there for me, I was their for my relative. BUT, I stood up and said "YES!, I'm trans! and what does that have to do with my relative?"  This situation escalated and the head of the hospital, came at 9pm to apologize to me!
I can't tell you how empowered I felt.  That situation prompted a change in their hospital policy as well.

I guess what I am saying is --Just keep going, and your path with illuminate itself.  As time goes on, you will see what works for you and what doesn't. You may find that coming out is better for you. Or you may find out, that it's best to keep your transition to yourself.  What I can tell you, is YOU will eventually get to the point where all those doubts will subside.  You will be impressed by your changes, and happy with the results.  It will NOT happen overnight. And also remember that your transition is not only for you, but for others around you as well.  Some will take longer to digest your new self.  I found that it's hard for family and old friends to make the adjustment, so be gentle on them. 

In the end, it's not about them, it's about you.

Life was very hard for us, financially and spiritually, but eventually it leveled off. 
What I can tell you is, I am OUT to my friends and family and also people that are involved with my career.  I am having a blast as my NEW self. I don't go around telling everyone I'm trans, but I don't hide it, since I found that it helps sometimes and can inspire other trans women...that's just me.

I am still married, to a wonderful woman, who is now very involved with the LGBT community and mentors them (she is a game producer). I'm currently directing and co-producing a Documentary.  I've travelled around the globe as ME and I'm sure I get stares (I'm 6 ft tall), but I think it's more because I'm tall.  We've gone to straight clubs and I've gotten hit on as well (which I don't really care, but it kinda validates that they perceive me as a female). And I'm not this gorgeous female like some of you on here. I'm just a "normal" chick. LOL

As time goes by, you'll feel the real you come out, and SHE will guide you.  Just keep your head up high and they will respect you either way.  HAVE FUN WITH IT! It's hard enough being trans.

I hope this helps.

HUGS!! :)
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Mavis

Quote from: KarmaGirl on February 06, 2016, 02:39:04 PM
I'm not sure if this is going to help, but here it goes.

Life is hard enough, without you adding negative thoughts.  Easier said than done.  That's what I was told at the beginning of my transition.  (I'm about to open up a little too much so bare with me)--

At the start of my transition, I did not have the support I needed. In fact, I thought I was a little insane (please forgive that word) for doing this. I mean, I looked like your typical ALPHA male! I had muscles, height, and a shaved head to match.  In fact, they would call me Vin (after Vin Diesel---but not as buff--LOL).  I remember, trying on a wig to see if that would help me picture the woman I wanted to be, but it was REALLLY hard to see "her". Because of that, I sank into a deep depression.
 
Then a close and very young relative of mine got very sick. For months we were in the Intensive Care Unit. I kept taking my HRT meds, just like I would with my vitamins.  I never quit taking them, no matter how bad things got. The truth was, I was dedicated first to this relative, and then my HRT.  We became the topic of a news segment that went viral...so much for transitioning in private.  Pictures were posted of me and my family on the news shows. It became a circus.  The good thing was that it was able to bring awareness to a very obscure and unknown disease. Again, I kept going on my own with all my HRT meds and seeing the Doctor at a local LGBT clinic. 
I was falling apart.  There were the occasional doubts, but I knew that I couldn't stop.  Dealing with this relative, it made me think how precious life was, and how lucky I was to have this option to correct my gender. STILL, my mind couldn't see HER very well, and I had no idea what I would look like in the end.If you would have told me I could pass well, I would have laughed at you and said you were crazy.
On top of that, I had a career in Voice Over, and Film/TV!  What the heck was I going to tell those people that knew me before I transitioned? 
As time went on, I began taking pictures daily or weekly.  That's when I began seeing the changes. I couldn't with a mirror for some reason. My wife, also began to see the changes. 
Since I lived in the hospital beside our relative, I didn't have the privacy to explore my new found self.  In fact, once my boobs began to grow (mom and sis have big ones-LOL), I had to hide them with sports bras and bind them.  As you can imagine, it was hard suppressing what I was wanting soooo badly. This was going on for almost 3 years, since our relative was in and out of hospitals.
Towards the end of their death, I began to realize that I could no longer hide. It didn't matter to me, if I passed or not. Life is apparently short, and seeing this tiny creature struggle made me see things differently. In fact, I still visit her grave and chat with her about how much "SIGHT" she gave me with my own demons. It would be an insult to her, for me to hide who I was.

Finally, one of the doctors, asked me about myself. I was angry that they even attempted to ask me, since I wasn't there for me, I was their for my relative. BUT, I stood up and said "YES!, I'm trans! and what does that have to do with my relative?"  This situation escalated and the head of the hospital, came at 9pm to apologize to me!
I can't tell you how empowered I felt.  That situation prompted a change in their hospital policy as well.

I guess what I am saying is --Just keep going, and your path with illuminate itself.  As time goes on, you will see what works for you and what doesn't. You may find that coming out is better for you. Or you may find out, that it's best to keep your transition to yourself.  What I can tell you, is YOU will eventually get to the point where all those doubts will subside.  You will be impressed by your changes, and happy with the results.  It will NOT happen overnight. And also remember that your transition is not only for you, but for others around you as well.  Some will take longer to digest your new self.  I found that it's hard for family and old friends to make the adjustment, so be gentle on them. 

In the end, it's not about them, it's about you.

Life was very hard for us, financially and spiritually, but eventually it leveled off. 
What I can tell you is, I am OUT to my friends and family and also people that are involved with my career.  I am having a blast as my NEW self. I don't go around telling everyone I'm trans, but I don't hide it, since I found that it helps sometimes and can inspire other trans women...that's just me.

I am still married, to a wonderful woman, who is now very involved with the LGBT community and mentors them (she is a game producer). I'm currently directing and co-producing a Documentary.  I've travelled around the globe as ME and I'm sure I get stares (I'm 6 ft tall), but I think it's more because I'm tall.  We've gone to straight clubs and I've gotten hit on as well (which I don't really care, but it kinda validates that they perceive me as a female). And I'm not this gorgeous female like some of you on here. I'm just a "normal" chick. LOL

As time goes by, you'll feel the real you come out, and SHE will guide you.  Just keep your head up high and they will respect you either way.  HAVE FUN WITH IT! It's hard enough being trans.

I hope this helps.

HUGS!! :)

very inspiring thank you
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Dena

Yes it is possible to live a normal life but who would want to. As a male I developed a way with computers, electronics and other normally male skills that many CIS males never have. Transitioning I learned every thing I could about myself and others going through the transition. Post surgical I continued to learn about several more additional subjects. Yes, I could be normal but I have so much to offer others that I refuse to be just normal. I want to be exceptional in everything I do and I want to be able to do everything.

I believe everybody has hidden talents that when developed will make them special. You only need to explore your self and find these abilities and develop them. Being able to take care of yourself and others is what will make people respect you no matter who or what you are. I know there are many times I didn't pass well, but my personality and refusal to quit made people overlook any visible issues I had and see the real me.

You are far more attractive than I will ever be so now is the time to start making that inner self something that others will appreciate.
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Violets

Thank you for sharing your story, KarmaGirl. You, as well as many others on this site are truly an inspiration to those of us who are struggling in the early stages of transition.


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KarmaGirl

Quote from: Violets on February 07, 2016, 09:24:01 PM
Thank you for sharing your story, KarmaGirl. You, as well as many others on this site are truly an inspiration to those of us who are struggling in the early stages of transition.

OMG, thank YOU! You made my day!

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Hugs! ;)
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