Dr. Mcginn Experience / Results / Comments

[tryingforthebest]

Hi everyone!

So, back in 2014 I had SRS with Dr. Suporn in Thailand, and even though I believe the result to be passable, there are things that I really need fixed... More specifically, the entrance to the vagina (which looks like a hole with no fourchette whatsoever and hair + ralphe line in the first couple of centimetres), loose excess labia majora skin and scar, clitoris with little to no hooding.

Now, I've seen a fair amount of SRS results on the internet from many different doctors, but only one has really amazed me and, as it happens, it is Dr. Mcginn's work. Not a single one of the results on her website comes even close to this (very lucky!) girl's vulva but now I am seriously considering having a revision with her (for those of you who don't know, Suporn offers a "lifetime guarantee" of free revisions) but first I need to know that this isn't just luck and if Mcginn really is a magician with a scalpel... I would love to hear about anyone's experience with her, and if anyone has any other results that they can share I'd be very grateful.

If anyone would like to see the result I'm referring to, PM me (it's on tumblr, but I don't think I can post a link here... mods?)

[Sandy]

I was one of Dr. Mcginn's first patients after she opened her own office.  That was eight years ago and I was impressed then and I am impressed to this very day.

I'm sure she will be able do right by you.

-Sandy

[AnonyMs]

I believe that's those are very standard revisions for Suporn, and I've hear he delivers really good results after revision. The forchette is because its too delicate to withstand dilation, and you need to go 30 days after surgery without dilation.

The labia would be due to his reusing all the material, on the principal that he can always revise material away afterwards, but can't put it back afterwards if its missing. I believe his technique is to some extent designed with revision in mind.

I think it would be risky getting a revision elsewhere as Suporn has an unusual/secret technique, and he'd know it better than anyone else is going to. I've heard an number of surgeons won't even do revisions on his patients because of it.

Like all surgeons there's plenty of good and bad things posted about Mcginn.

You can't pm until you have 15 posts. Perhaps you can say the name the photo's are under rather than a link. Google's good, and I'm curious.

What is "ralphe line"?

[tryingforthebest]

I believe that's those are very standard revisions for Suporn, and I've hear he delivers really good results after revision. The forchette is because its too delicate to withstand dilation, and you need to go 30 days after surgery without dilation.

The labia would be due to his reusing all the material, on the principal that he can always revise material away afterwards, but can't put it back afterwards if its missing. I believe his technique is to some extent designed with revision in mind.

I think it would be risky getting a revision elsewhere as Suporn has an unusual/secret technique, and he'd know it better than anyone else is going to. I've heard an number of surgeons won't even do revisions on his patients because of it.

Like all surgeons there's plenty of good and bad things posted about Mcginn.

You can't pm until you have 15 posts. Perhaps you can say the name the photo's are under rather than a link. Google's good, and I'm curious.

What is "ralphe line"?

Yeah, my biggest fear is getting a revision with another doctor who ends up messing Suporn's great work (the "inner vulva" [area from the clitoris down to the urethra] is perfect)... May I ask, are you post-op? Or do you personally know any of Suporn's patients (I am sure there are a lot of us)?

The ralphe line is a kind of dotted line that runs from the perineum down to the anus... because part of the perineum is now serving as the opening to the vagina, that line has become an issue due to it being very sensitive and not supposed to be there (the fourchette / commissure is supposed to line that part of the vulva), plus it has hair which makes it even weirder... Do you know if Suporn can use some of the skin from the labia majora or minora to create a fourchette and cover up the perineum?

As for the name, search for finallyawoman69 or postoptranssexualvaginas (just like that)

[TG CLare]

Dr McGinn did my surgery back in June 2015 and I am still very pleased with the results. My own doctor asked if she might be allowed to see the results for her own information and to make sure everything was alright and she was very impressed. She said that if she hadn't known, I had surgery, she wouldn't have known at a first look.

I received great pre-op care and superb post-op care from Dr. McGinn and I think she is a very nice person. Of course, like everything in this world, there are those who swear by something and others that will swear at it.

I am happy with Dr. McGinn and would recommend her to you but the decision is all yours. Do your homework and be sure that Dr. McGinn is the right surgeon. Now, she may not wish to do anything to the work done by another surgeon but that would not be unusual but no harm in asking.

Love,
Clare

[AnonyMs]

Yeah, my biggest fear is getting a revision with another doctor who ends up messing Suporn's great work (the "inner vulva" [area from the clitoris down to the urethra] is perfect)... May I ask, are you post-op? Or do you personally know any of Suporn's patients (I am sure there are a lot of us)?

The ralphe line is a kind of dotted line that runs from the perineum down to the anus... because part of the perineum is now serving as the opening to the vagina, that line has become an issue due to it being very sensitive and not supposed to be there (the fourchette / commissure is supposed to line that part of the vulva), plus it has hair which makes it even weirder... Do you know if Suporn can use some of the skin from the labia majora or minora to create a fourchette and cover up the perineum?

As for the name, search for finallyawoman69 or postoptranssexualvaginas (just like that)

I know someone who's been to Suporn and I try to read just about everything that's ever posted about him. I'm a bit of a fan I guess.

Fourchette is a revision Suporn does, though I've no idea of the details. I've seen it mentioned many times and I know someone who had it done. Hair at the vaginal entrance happens occasionally, but its not supposed to be deeper with his technique. Assuming its only the entrance it should be possible to remove it with electrolysis. I don't know if you'd have to remove it before having a revision.

Have you tried the yahoo and (secret) facebook Suporn groups? You're likely to get more information there than anywhere else.

I've never heard of the raphe line being a problem for SRS before (typo in the spelling by the way). I know nothing about it.

That photo looks far too good to be true, especially for so early post op. I don't know how Tumblr works so I can't really work out whats going on there. I suppose you could always email Mcginn and ask if you're serious.

I'll pm you a few links. I'm not sure its ok to post them here.

[tryingforthebest]

I know someone who's been to Suporn and I try to read just about everything that's ever posted about him. I'm a bit of a fan I guess.

Fourchette is a revision Suporn does, though I've no idea of the details. I've seen it mentioned many times and I know someone who had it done. Hair at the vaginal entrance happens occasionally, but its not supposed to be deeper with his technique. Assuming its only the entrance it should be possible to remove it with electrolysis. I don't know if you'd have to remove it before having a revision.

Have you tried the yahoo and (secret) facebook Suporn groups? You're likely to get more information there than anywhere else.

I've never heard of the raphe line being a problem for SRS before (typo in the spelling by the way). I know nothing about it.

That photo looks far too good to be true, especially for so early post op. I don't know how Tumblr works so I can't really work out whats going on there. I suppose you could always email Mcginn and ask if you're serious.

I'll pm you a few links. I'm not sure its ok to post them here.

Thank you for the links - I tried to answer your PM but there is no reply button (I think I probably need mod approval first)

The problem with the entrance to the vj is not just the hairs (which like you said can be removed with electrolysis) but  it's the raphe line on the perineum. It makes the vj entrance totally weird - there shouldn't be a line there - it's where the fourchette should be but I don't know if Suporn can cover it with skin or something, I just know that it's not supposed to be there.

I used to be part of the yahoo group, but there's very little info in there. I don't really have Facebook but I will try to email the admin of the group to ask if she has heard of this problem mentioned anywhere. Thank you for your help

[AnonyMs]

You can't send a pm until you have 15 posts.

[Laura_7]

Thank you for the links - I tried to answer your PM but there is no reply button (I think I probably need mod approval first)

The problem with the entrance to the vj is not just the hairs (which like you said can be removed with electrolysis) but  it's the raphe line on the perineum. It makes the vj entrance totally weird - there shouldn't be a line there - it's where the fourchette should be but I don't know if Suporn can cover it with skin or something, I just know that it's not supposed to be there.

I used to be part of the yahoo group, but there's very little info in there. I don't really have Facebook but I will try to email the admin of the group to ask if she has heard of this problem mentioned anywhere. Thank you for your help

There are comments saying vaginas from asian people simply have more of a hole appearance.
So for many its simply a part of variation.

There are revisions possible.
Often some details are not possible during a one stage procedure, but might be during a revision.


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[Blush]

She said that if she hadn't known, I had surgery, she wouldn't have known at a first look.

Did your doctor take an anatomy course? I had surgery with Dr McGinn as well, and while the results are pretty good, this concept that people on this forum keep bringing up about their doctors not being able to tell the difference is ridiculous and misleads others researching their own surgery.

And I think there's a bit of an aura about Dr McGinn. There comes a point where a procedure is a procedure regardless of who's performing it. As a medical professional myself I was a little disappointed about my post-op care. Very little what/when/where/why education and direction and too much emphasis on leaving it up to me to figure stuff out or ask them yes or no.

[Laura_7]

Did your doctor take an anatomy course? I had surgery with Dr McGinn as well, and while the results are pretty good, this concept that people on this forum keep bringing up about their doctors not being able to tell the difference is ridiculous and misleads others researching their own surgery.

http://www.academia.edu/4822612/It_Is_As_It_Does_Genital_Form_and_Function_in_Sex_Reassignment_Surgery

Expertise In 2004, plastic surgeon Dr. Pierre Brassard appeared on the Canadian Broadcasting Center's news magazine program, The Fifth Estate.... roughly 250 sex reassignment surgeries (SRS) per year .... When asked, "What are you capable of doing?" in terms of male-to-female genital reconstruction, Brassard replied that, "An average result to the best result can fool you [referring to the female interviewer], him [gesturing toward the ... male cameraman], any doctor." Brassard's statement draws on three very different modes of knowing the female genitalia and pronounces his ability to "fool" them all .... by an assumption of heterosexuality, the woman, the man, and the doctor know, recognize and interact with the female genitals in different forms and in different capacities. No matter who you are or how you interact with or know the female genitals, no one can tell the difference between the "natural" and the "like natural" except the surgeon who knows the one .

- this is just meant as a general statement and not to question anyone
-I personally do not like the expression "to fool"
There are studies showing that with the influence of estrogen from hrt, the neovagina can turn into a mucosa.
So imo its the real thing.


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[Blush]

There are studies showing that with the influence of estrogen from hrt, the neovagina can turn into a mucosa.
So imo its the real thing.

That is such crap. Link the study?

[Laura_7]

That is such ... Link the study?

Look ... why do you use such expressions ? There are new things to learn out there ... it can even be exciting imo ...


gendercare dot com/library/italiano_paper1.html

"From months to sometimes years after skin grafting, the graft loses all of its skin properties and adapts to its environment, becoming a mucosa... (Sherfey, 1973)."

"they also showed that some artificial vaginas are capable of lubricating as well and as rapidly as any normally constituted vaginal barrel .. (Masters & Johnson, 1966)"

"Those post-operative male-to-female transsexuals who amuse themselves with the peculiar statement that they still have a penis, but that it's just turned inside-out should note that not only do they not have a penis, but they don't even have skin of the penis any more ....
It also responds to hormones in an identical way as does a normal vagina..."


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[oneoftwo]

As a medical professional myself . . .

How much "micro-surgery" type work is involved in those surgeries ?  That is pretty specialized work if it is required, isn't it?

[Laura_7]

How much "micro-surgery" type work is involved in those surgeries ?  That is pretty specialized work if it is required, isn't it?

Well its separating tissue for example ... shaving away parts, like erectile tissue (most reduce erectile tissue), without cutting nerves...

some surgeons retain nerve bundles and place them at the neoclitoris...

there is a reason why the op's take a few hours ...


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[TG CLare]

Blush, yes I gather my doctor did take anatomy class. She did say "at first look" but of course a close up exam would tell the truth obviously. I think my vagina looks good and I'm happy with the results. My doctor liked the appearance and while maybe not as good as a cis-gender woman, the initial appearance was good.

Love,
Clare

[JessieBirdie]

Yeah, my biggest fear is getting a revision with another doctor who ends up messing Suporn's great work (the "inner vulva" [area from the clitoris down to the urethra] is perfect)... May I ask, are you post-op? Or do you personally know any of Suporn's patients (I am sure there are a lot of us)?

The ralphe line is a kind of dotted line that runs from the perineum down to the anus... because part of the perineum is now serving as the opening to the vagina, that line has become an issue due to it being very sensitive and not supposed to be there (the fourchette / commissure is supposed to line that part of the vulva), plus it has hair which makes it even weirder... Do you know if Suporn can use some of the skin from the labia majora or minora to create a fourchette and cover up the perineum?

As for the name, search for finallyawoman69 or postoptranssexualvaginas (just like that)

Just googling that result and as a Mcginn patient myself, I wouldn't believe that is real simply due to the fact that the scars are completely gone already.  Well, unless that was a result after a secondary labiaplasty, especially 10 weeks after surgery according to the anecdote.  Good grief.  I highly doubt the incision scars go away that quickly on anybody (vicryl sutures themselves take about 10 weeks to fully absorb)!  And I know Mcginn didn't update her technique to something where there are no visible scars, because that was posted 6 months ago, I had my own surgery with her, ermmm--5.5 months ago!

I'd kill for that labia though.  If that is a labiaplasty result sign me up!