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What triggered your late transition?

Started by maybe_amanda, October 15, 2007, 11:56:30 AM

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cindybc

Hi, Valentina,
I believe you are right, that hormones seem to have a more profound effect with a younger person, but from what I hear it is not always a constant.  The development of each M/F individual progresses differently.

I have been on HRT for 7 years and 4 years post-op and even though I wish I could have done it sooner, these procedures were not known to me until about 15 years ago. Love the mermaids.  ;D But I am happy grateful to have got to where I am today.



And Fairies 


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cindybc

Hi, Morticia,

Thanks be to the gods in all 7 heavens, Hon, "you got it!"

You are learning about the emotions and how they will allow you to bring forth the tears which release the poison within. Touch the inner-self. Be one with her. 

I am bipolar so I do understand what depressions are about. I sometimes had deep depressions that went on for months. But if you work things out right in your transitioning, yes the depressions will decrease. You are your own doctor in that way. The medicine is positive thinking and prayers to whatever higher power you believe in.

The estrogen will not likely cure the physical problems, or depression, you are quite right, but if you work on being one or complete with your inner-self, the will and power to heal is there, if you believe and have faith in it.  A more positive outlook will help you to heal better. 

For the past 7 years my mood swings have greatly decreased. Where at one time when I was hurt it could send me hiding with depression for months, now it lasts maybe all of one day. So these changes may not be the direct result from using hormones, but more like what the hormones make changes in the anatomy of your being, which in turn makes you feel better about yourself.

Cindy     
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jeanmarie

Every one transition at their own pace and I transitioned in my 30's. I only got comfortable with who I was and after a few life altering incidents which made me realise that life i running out.
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cindybc

Hi jeanmarie
Quotelife i running out.

Yes that thought runs through my mind quite often, but I desire not to entertain it because I fear if I did I would miss out on too much of what's left of my life. The few years that are left I want to enjoy like there is no tomorrow. Does that make sense? Well anyway I for once in my life I feel truly happy and I really don't want negative thoughts to cut me short of my happiness.

Cindy
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jeanmarie

Quote from: cindybc on November 05, 2007, 03:43:16 AM
Hi jeanmarie
Quotelife i running out.

Yes that thought runs through my mind quite often, but I desire not to entertain it because I fear if I did I would miss out on too much of what's left of my life. The few years that are left I want to enjoy like there is no tomorrow. Does that make sense? Well anyway I for once in my life I feel truly happy and I really don't want negative thoughts to cut me short of my happiness.

Cindy


Let the thought become your motivation and your inspiration with which you plot your life's destiny along. Thought are pure its only with what we do with them that skew them.
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emma?

Quote from: Kristi on October 28, 2007, 10:09:21 PM....
only a chance to get a peek at life before being smothered time and time again, starting when I was small.  The shame and guilt I felt was incredible.  I also had no idea that anyone else felt the same way.  I came to Susan's out of desperation to try to understand what was going on with me.  I still hoped I could talk my way out of this, that it was only a passing phase.  But it's like trying to put the genie back in the bottle.  I can suppress it for a while, grow depressed again, or enjoy the life and the challenges I face.  So I now feel I am being pushed along by something bigger than myself.

Kristi

i thought mind reading was illeagel  ;) but yes.. that describs what i feel and why im here.. i jsut stoped boxing it up and denying it to my self much younger.. although id almost like to burry it again and pretend it isnt an issue and wish it would go away.
i dotn see it going away so for me now is time to cope before life actually gets hard.
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Berliegh

see the 'What triggered your early transition'? thread...
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melissa90299

Quote from: jeanmarie on November 05, 2007, 03:32:32 AM
Every one transition at their own pace and I transitioned in my 30's.

That is only true for younger people. If I were 16 right now and assuming I had an internet connection, I would already be on HRT.

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Berliegh

Quote from: melissa90299 on November 19, 2007, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: jeanmarie on November 05, 2007, 03:32:32 AM
Every one transition at their own pace and I transitioned in my 30's.

That is only true for younger people. If I were 16 right now and assuming I had an internet connection, I would already be on HRT.



I think your right....as a young teenager I was snatching low dose contraceptive pills from girls I knew but I had no idea how to get proper HRT and this was the late 1970's.....no internet back then...
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melissa90299

I tried to use estrogen cream. It didn't work.
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Berliegh

Quote from: melissa90299 on November 19, 2007, 03:44:46 PM
I tried to use estrogen cream. It didn't work.

Yes, me too....I tried the oestregel and rubbed it over in the obvious places.....it did absolutely nothing!
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melissa90299

I am just grateful that I was able to transition at all. It certainly wasn't realistically possible when I was young. Sometimes I get pangs of regret when I see how pretty I was 16 and even without FFS  would have been pretty hot. OTOH there are a lot of things I would not have had, like my son, which was truly the best thing that ever happened in my life.
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cindybc

The years of my three children were very troubled and I ended up being very sick. I wasn't sorry to loose my spouse from hell but losing the children hurt deeply. I never saw them again except for briefly for two years when they were shipping out to college. So actually my transitioning was my healing time. Healing physically, mentally and spiritually.

Cindy
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cindybc

Hi Morticia
It's ok now though, the past three years have been the most peaceful wonderful years of my life with Wing Walker protecting, caring and loving me. Intimacy 24 7. Life is just to darn short now that I have all that a girl could desire.

Cindy   
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Teri Anne

When I first got onto the internet in the 90's, I went to a book store and found a book called "Internet Phone Book."  I, of course, looked up "transsexual" and found a chat room (that no longer exists) called "The Gazebo."  I guess that internet search engines weren't around or were not in my scope of knowledge -- I look up SOO many things via Google these days, lol!  Through the Gazebo and several books ("True Self"), I came to recognize myself and all the angst that I'd kept trapped inside throughout my life since early childhood. 

My ex (who was critical because she was trying to "save" me) stated the obvious:  That there are websites and info on every esoteric interest ranging from many good things to some weird things like pedophiles and skinheads.  I pointed out how many esoteric medical diseases that are misdiagnosed by doctors and, only via the internet, have people suffering these diseases found each other and thus realized, they're not alone.  She countered that skinheads and other negative small groups also "find each other" via the internet.  Now post op, my journey is through and, in looking back, feel my ex was trying her best to protect me albeit in a fairly insulting way.  Like Renee Richards related in her autobiography, I have no certainty that I've done the correct thing but have done what I felt compelled to do; the often stated "transition or die."  My ex pointed out that there are all kinds of obssessions and she asked whether what I was feeling was something I'd talked myself into?  There is no real answer to that -- I feel the way I feel and it's all I CAN feel.  The internet is, unarguably, an incredibly powerful thing but it didn't talk me into anything.  Like others, it "triggered" (or, more accurately, "helped") my transition.  Transitioning is something I dwelled on WAYYY before the internet.  I can only hope that, unlike negative obssessions that harm humanity, mine is a positive change, executed from my heart with hopes of an ever better life...

As time moves on.

Teri Anne
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Berliegh

Quote from: morticia on November 19, 2007, 10:55:10 PM
Let's see, when I was 14 (1975) I tried the only thing I could think of.  Witchcraft.
Didn't work btw.

When I was 23 (1984, I think) I was stealing BC pills from my lesbian GF.
Sort of worked, a little.  Problem was, I didn't know what I was doing and almost died from overdosing on them.
Gave up on that.

At least now I know what I'm doing and I'm doing it right despite the fact that it's about 30 years later than I would have started had I had real options back then..

Oh well.  Lemonade anyone?



You same the same age as me Morticia and I was doing the same thing at 23, taking BC pills from girlfriends but they knew about it. It was pretty obvious to girls I knew which way I wanted to go from way back...

When we were 14 in the mid 70's we didn't have the internet. These days you could be 14 and probably buy hormones over the internet......If I were 14 now that's what I'd be doing....

The earlier the transirtion the better and no one I know who  is TS had any intention of starting out or wanting to have a late transition...
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cindybc

Hi Teri hon, it is so very nice to hear you say those words, especially what you said near the end. And thank you so much for spending some time with Wing Walker and I yesterday. There is a whole host of things I would like to do and I hope I can get the time to do some of them before that Grey Hound bus arrives. ****Gnite****

Cindy
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Berliegh

This applies both ways..

The statistics show for themselves, less people transitioned in the 1970's / 1980's compared to now.....why? because medication is more readily available and the internet now exists where you can buy it from the internet. The world had changed over the last 30 years, there is more public knowledge and less prejudice  about gender dysphoria and there are readily available contacts on the internet to book appointments etc..

I have no doubt in my mind that all the people classed as 'Late transitioners' would be early transitioners if they were born in the 1980's instead of being born in the 1950's or 1960's...
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Teri Anne

Berliegh wrote, "I have no doubt in my mind that all the people classed as 'Late transitioners' would be early transitioners if they were born in the 1980's instead of being born in the 1950's or 1960's..."

YES!! Exactly!  So, the question of this post, "What triggered your LATE transition," can be misleading -- presuming like we had a choice, lol?  If you don't know Paris exists as a glorious beautiful city, you stay on the farm and pitch that hay ("How 'ya gonna keep 'em on the farm after they've seen Pareee?").  Anyone (well, except for citizens of China) on the internet today has the WORLD at your beckoned call.  So, please don't look down on us for transitioning "late."  It's not like we couldn't make up our minds and then finally got around to it.  The world changed and we rushed as fast as we could into our "brave new worlds," lol.

Teri Anne

P.S. to Paula and Cindy - Yes, we'll have to get together again!  There's an Amtrak train/bus combo that would get me up to Vancouver for around $92 round trip.  I might then find a cheap hotel and car and see the sights.  It'd be good to see Stanley Park once again.  Thanks again for driving down here.
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melissa90299

Terri anne, doncha know that the younguns were just smarter than us, choosing to be born in this age of universal access to transition.
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