Hi everyone, It's my Birthday!!!

[Tasha_]

Sorry Jenny, I was being rushed when I wrote my last post... I meant to say that it can be celebrating when our attempts are foiled... I  by no means wanted to duscourage you. I thi k it is wo fearful that you are trying to get out there and I hope your next attempt goes as planned!!!

[Jenny0713]

Oh. No biggie. I will get there. Baby steps.


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[Tasha_]

Ummm I guess I am also having a hard time with auto correct too ... not celebrating, I meant frustrating... lol

[Jenny0713]

Hehe


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[Rachel_Christina]

I have been laying low for a while girls, have alot on,
Thats so levely of your students Cindy! Can't believe that :') its too sweet.
And Sarah , that story too :'),','
Has me all warm inside, I hope I should be so lucky,
Anyway I can't stay and talk, I'm off to The otherside of Zurich today, gona take three hours to get ther, gotta se e a car, as a replacement for what I'mdriving now!
Hope you girls are having a wonderful weekend!
Byeee, love, Christine

[Vincent Johnson]

Hello! It is nice to meet you! I hope you have fun at Susan's!

[Jenny0713]

Ok, back on the shaving subject. I finally had someone notice my shaved arms. It was my mother. She asked if I had lost the hair on my arms. All I could say was "I guess I have. Not sure why". Of course I am not yet out to them. Not sure I ever can be. They are old and set in their ways and Dad has dementia pretty bad.


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[Tasha_]

Ya, I've always wondered what I would tell someone that I'm not out to... kind of a tough one, you could always say that it's growing thinner in some spots and made you uncomfortable so you just shaved the rest of it.... or competition e swimming might make a good excuse.... lol... maybe saying nothing like you did is the way to go....

[Jenny0713]

Just glad they didn't see my shaved legs or painted toe nails.


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[SarahElizabeth1981]

Hi and welcome to this thread vincent.

Sorry I haven't posted in a little while I got a virus, multiple viruses actually. spent hours getting rid of them but then couldn't connect to the internet. and some other glitches with windows. long story short i wasn't able to fix it and ended up doing a clean install of windows. which took days.... it was forever "downloading updates" grr stupid microsoft.

Anyway,  LOL jenny. atleast she only noticed the arms. as Tasha said sports is a good way to explain any lack of hair as it's fairly common for athletes to shave or otherwise remove hair. the other day i went to meet up with someone that i wasn't out to. I'm still not into the whole be dressed as a women and be sort of in people face about being trans. So I went in jeans and a t shirt and nothing feminine. So I'm driving there and I notice the nail polish on my finger nails. haha ooops. so Anyway, we talk over coffee for almost 2 hours and he never says anything about it. we kind of wrapping things up and I say oh by the way... I'm trans. etc etc so we talked about it a little and he was totally understanding and supportive. he even said he wants to go out for supper with me when I'm all done up. No it's nothing romantic just in case anyone wonders.... Anyway I gotta get to work take care girls.

[Jenny0713]

Sounds like a nice friend. He is a keeper no matter if it's romantic or not. The athletic thing wouldn't work for me. I have never been into sports and they know that. I was the one that tripped over his own feet in junior high and held the record for quickest wrestling match. Um no, I didn't win the match. I was better at band. Played the trumpet in marching band.

Hope you and your computer are feeling better. I'm a techie geek kind of person.


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[Tasha_]

->-bleeped-<- Sarah, I'm gonna have to try that.... lol.... glad your friend is supportive too, it's always nice to get positive feedback.... and Jenny, for some reason legs and toes are just not noticeable, I've been all over the place in flip flops and nobody has ever said anything...  small stuff is easy to pass off.... it's the ears getting pierced and growing out your hair, (I think I'm gonna get an a-line Bob as soon as its long enough....)

Good note, I went all weekend into town as myself, and I am definitely boosted in my confidence. No body looked at me sideways, and on Saturday I went I to a liquor store for some good whiskey to share with my lovely wife, and a girl walked up to me and says "fancy bottle, fancy clothes, you look really nice", and I didn't even hesitate to reply. I think my voice is beginning to come into itself, and I have not yet been misgendered while out!!! I still work about getting carded though, like, "this isn't you", but if that happens, I'm thinking about replying "no, that's me" in my man voice.... lol.... don't know what else to do.... lol... maybe offer to show them what's under my skirt in the ladies room to prove it??? What's a girl to do!?!? Lol...

You are too awesome Sarah, I really need to try that line out at the end of a conversation sometime.... you make it seem like the right way to do it, no big deal, just, by the way....

Talk to you girls later!!
Tasha

[Rachel_Christina]

That sounds amasing Sarah, to get those kind of responses to it!, I still haven't come out to anyone bar my GF, so I'm real scared of coming out still, especially my family, you know I acctually told my mother about this 5-6 years ago?
About the hair problem, I only have facial hair to worry about, and I'm hoping hormones deminish it abit before I start electrolysis, that way people may notice less, I hope :')
Haha, if it takes the "shenis" to prove it Tasha we would all be very happy! :')
I can't wait to be out, but fear like the plague to be outed
Hope all is well for you girls,
Love, Christine

[Tasha_]

I still don't even know what to do about coming out to my mother/stepfather/all those that close, because we really aren't that close.... we live 4 minutes from each other and the only time I see them it's all business (literally my stepfather is my business partner...). So, since we don't even get along on a personal level as it is, why should I even tell them? I kind of want to stop talking to them altogether anyway, so if they even saw me somewhere they probly wouldn't look twice... I dunno, my mom already thinks it's something she did, even though I specifically told her why I am this way and how long... I mean, wrong forum so I'll stop now.... but that kind of sums up my feelings....

Lol... love you girls!!!
Tasha

[Tasha_]

Speaking of telling family, more of my freaking in-laws know about me completely than my own family!!!

Okay, done now....
Tasha

[SarahElizabeth1981]

Yeah, I haven't really treated it as a big deal when I've told anyone. I've basically said yeah I'm trans and I'm transitioning. I don't know if it's the right way or best way or whatever but I'm a laid back person so it fits... I also, on one hand, don't consider it a big deal. don't get me wrong it's a huge thing to go through and a process like no other. it is a big deal. it's taken me a long time to really begin to find myself and I'm still soo early in this process... I think if you don't make a big deal of it then others may not be as inclined to do so..

Christine, I'm naturally not very hairy and I have a lot less growing after waxing a couple times and everything else but the face... *sigh I have a lot less after all the electrolysis I've had but every now and then some hair will pop up in an area that I thought we were mostly done with and I feel sooo... Pissed off really. I hear hormones reduce hair even facial hair but I've seen a lot of trans girls that are on hormones and have that 5 o'clock shadow and I cringe. Unfortunately my facial hair that grows fastest and longest is dark dark brown and coarse. it's one of the things that I get most dysphoric about. I can't be rid of it fast enough. i'm getting it done as fast as i can, unfortunately it's hard on the skin and I can only go so fast.

tasha, I'm jealous you have a passable voice. that's the other big thing I get dysphoric about, my voice bothers me soo much. I've only got carded once and the bouncer just looked at me and let me in, didn't say a word.

I'm slowly changing everything to Sarah and getting rid of things with Marcus (former name) in it like email addresses etc. once I finished telling everyone in person that i wanted to and announced it on Facebook I've slowly been moving everyone over to my new Facebook profile. I finally made some posts about what I was doing and had some people send friend requests to help things along. which was nice to know that they really were aware what i was doing. Anyway, i was finally like I just want this done so i sent everyone friend requests as Sarah and then unfriended them and deleted my Marcus page. things are moving along. i wonder what it'll be like when i'm done "becoming Sarah" and get to focus on just living my life again... starts day dreaming

Love you girls

[Rebecca]

Really love the way you handle everything Sarah I would have to confess even a bit envious of how well everything is going for you.
Well apart from the computery bits but that happens to us all, usually at the worst times too.

My world isn't really big but my only friend was told between starter and main course at lunch like a total nonevent.
He was great and even gave me into trouble for worrying about his reaction.

It's amazing what you can get away with changing without being called on it though.
Body, clothes, persona, scents, nails, hair and even entire rooms around you without someone going "Wait a minute....".
People have a great habit of changing what they see to fit us into their world.

[Tasha_]

I definitely agree that is a big deal, but not like let's make a big deal out of big deal.... it's hoopla that scares me about telling some people, if it was like oh, and by the way I am trans, I wouldn't even care.....

[amberwaves]

Most people I have told were curious about how I thought they would react.  I never have an answer for them.  Too many unknown variables.  I tell them I don't know.  I'm a realist. Plan for the worst, hope for the best, accept something in the middle.

[Tasha_]

I think I have kind of made it more of a big deal than I wanted to, but because I was nervous and it took a little bit to spit it out... maybe that will get easier with my growing confidence....