Hi everyone, It's my Birthday!!!

[Tasha_]

Lol... Go girl!!

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[SarahElizabeth1981]

hi girls so I met a girl on tinder a few days before Christmas and we met for coffee earlier today. She was nice and is very pretty. I'm kind of shallow so I like that hahaha She is going to school across country so I don't know. we exchanged info to stay in touch so we'll see how that all goes...

Anyway, the reason I bring it up is I went to tell her a story which was always a bit of an emotional story for me but usually I could do the broad stroke of it no problem. as soon a I went to tell her I got all emotional.... which also happened to me on christmas when I  went to talk about something....  Definitely a change with the estrogen I think. how have you girls found it since starting HRT??

[Jenny0713]

I haven't cried in 15-20 years. Now I can cry at the drop of a hat. Much more emotional now. I love it though. I feel like I have finally been able to get in touch with my feelings. My girls are starting to grow a bit too. They hurt like heck though. Seems like everything we do in our transitions involves pain. Oh well. No pain, no gain.


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[Rebecca]

Tinder sounds fun and as you know I'm shallower than a teaspoon and with your looks you should get plenty of hits.

Emotions are amazing with at least a hundredfold increase taking me from almost nothing to alive. It's one of the things I love the most being able to feel is just so good.

Good sign your body is changing too. Obviously it's a YMMV thing but a lot of people can get so caught up with the outside they can kinda miss the incredible inside stuff. Suppose it all depends on where you're starting from as to what you'll notice.

Me I was crying all kinds to Bridge to Terabithia yesterday it is upsetting and fun all at the same time bit like a workout for the emotions.

Can be a flip side too so be careful. It's possible for everything to get amped up including not so fun things like loneliness, remorse, loss etc.

Either way I'm gonna go for yay you and hope you enjoy it all

Still no physical pain so far anywhere but emotional restoration was a roller coaster of epic proportions.

Defo looking forward to hearing more as I love the emotional bits.

[SarahElizabeth1981]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Thanks Jerrica. I have had a few matches on Tinder. but this was the first person I messaged. She obviously replied and we talked and then met up.

I joke that I'm shallow and while I do love pretty people. I think like most people i could never be with someone that I didn't find attractive. I have also noticed that when I like somebody they are more attractive to me then if I don't like them....

I think it's weird the sensitivity of my breasts goes up and down. last night when i went to bed they weren't that sensitive at all. today I just touched them and it was like OUCH! I'm presuming that will changing over time.. expect they will constantly hurt when breast growth really gets going

[Rebecca]

Yeah people I like I find a lot more attractive and if we fall out I can see them very differently. After making up it can take a while for how I see them to shift back which can be a bit awkward.

Wouldn't actually mind some breast pain if it came with an extra cup size or 2.

Glad of what I've got so far (B) but I'm thinking a nice full C should be enough. Current bra is great but it is a padded one and it's getting a bit full. Great but the next one up makes my breasts look tiny in them.

Do still look ok braless in a tshirt or nighty but I want more. Not that I'm competing with my 12 yo...... nah that's a lie ofc we compete (she'll win due to me and her other mums DNA but it's fun lol).

Bigger trouble I need to get to the gym to get back in shape. Lazing about and eating junk is fun but only so much I can handle. After my next set of bloods on the 4th I'm going back to my old diet. With being off Spiro soon peanut butter and banana sandwiches will be back on the menu along with my old breakfast shakes etc.

So many plans and I suck at waiting.

Gymnastics, swimming, poledancing, 10k, triathlon, dancing and more spring immediately to mind but for what I wanna wear doing it I'll need to be postop and looking amazing.

If any of you are going all the way to SRS what are you looking forward to most?

First up is too practical maybe but no more tucking or bump worries ever. After that it's gotta be clothes.

Maybe some day it'll be sex stuff but right here and now it's all about the clothes

[Jenny0713]

Mine hurt only sometimes. I feel them mostly while in bed when I roll over or something. I think it is normal for the pain to come and go although I have only been on E for about 4 months. Hard to say what the future holds. They are only about an AA now but I hope they continue to grow. Would love a nice B. We will see.


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[Rachel_Christina]

Ah the bean pains!! Mine have hurts since the very start and haven't let up. They have a slight shadow underneath them and the nipples have git slightly darker and maybe abit larger.
I hope they will atleast fill an A.
They don't get much help though as my fat content dwindles lol
Only time will tell how far they will go. I really want to stay natural.
I haven't been on too much lately but I tried have a glance atleast.
My Mother and three brothers have been amasing. They have really treated me well. I can't believe all of em had been fine with it.
My dad I have not worked up the courage to talk to yet! :/
I duno if I can!. He is such a hard man, I really doubt it would be worth it.
Mum says she can talk for me when I leave.
But I know maybe he would see it as an insult that I told all the rest but not him.
I duno what t do, I have never been able t talk t him about anything in life! :/
I have a week in Ireland left! It wont last long
I hope you Christmass all went well

[Rebecca]

Hey Christine

Ow for the pain part I think I changed my mind as I'm not really good with pain.

Fantastic that your mum and brothers have been good about it but in fairness I think you're a nice girl so y'know like everyone should just love you.

Dad's can be tricky. Never really talked to mine before and still not much after I got back. He is on board etc he's just not good at emotion stuff and seeing as he never really knew him or me it's gonna take time seeing as he's neither a talker nor hugger.

Older people can struggle wrapping their head around the most basic point "She's a girl!" whether it's a genital hang up or stereotypical expectations programmed into them it's hard to say. As I've recently found out though it is possible for the oldest manliest of men to open their eyes. Finally got a shot to talk to father and brother in law alone.... they can now both see me and only me.

Without knowing more about your dad or seeing him in the flesh for a couple of seconds to read him I can't really recommend which way to go. Safest approach would likely be you, him and your mum as her presence can help him think with her offering her feelings aloud to guide his.

[Rebecca]

Actually rereading your post he sounds exactly like my dad lol. If that's the case he might surprise you when I came back after years with no warning and as me no less mine blew me away when he spoke (normally he'd never talk to me except to give me into trouble or the most basic of expected communication like hi & bye) and said "Like your mum said we've only ever wanted you to be happy".  Sharp enough to notice he hid a bit behind "we" but there was a glimmer of emotion from him when he said it which was really surprising.

You'll know better than I do but I suspect part of him will respect you more if you tell him personally. It also gives him a chance to judge your sincerity and measure you up in that way guys do.

Either way you've got your mum and brothers so if it does go badly he will be fixed via the family if need be.

Just wish I could pop over to Ireland to say hi so near yet so far.

So happy hear things are going well. What can I say I'm a worrier.

[Rachel_Christina]

Well he doesn't get on very well with my brothers, and him and my mum are baisicly seperated, they just live in the same house. They fight often, but I know mam would still deep down think things may change!.
I am the only child who gets on well enough that we talk almost normal.
The rest pretty much don't, he was very harsh to us all of our lives! :/ it sucks, I have rose above it and tried to keep a family.
Haha maybe someday If i have insurance sorted on my car, I can come over for a spin! Would love tour about England and Scotland too! :')

[Rebecca]

Aha that complicates things with your dad for sure. Looks like it's all or nothing really. His finding out will be inevitable but harsh as it may sound it's your call if  you think he's worth the effort.

If he cuts you off he basically loses what connection he still has with your family. Seems a no brainer they'd pick you over him if it came down to a direct choice.

Would certainly love to meet up sometime unfortunately I'm going to be skint (poor) for quite a while but by the time I have money again I'll be healed so win:win. If you're ever in Glasgow we can go out for a night on the town and you can crash at my place with a good breakfast cooked by yours truly x

[SarahElizabeth1981]

I hope the offer for breakfast applies to us all Jerrica....   

It's great to hear that your family has been good Christine. That's just wonderful. i don't know about your dad but maybe he would surprise you. I think it's toughest telling people where you're not quite sure how they will react but you expect it may not be in the best way. You have come a long way and things have worked out. I'm sure things will only get better. 

Like everything transitioning peoples experiences vary so much. I hope I'm more like you Jenny. just the occasional pain like it has been. But I really think I'm be more like Christine and my breasts are just going to hurt all the time. with the skin stretching and uh,, I don't want to think about it. I just want nice boobs. Which as I have said before I expect to get augmentation to get what I want.

I went to a psychic last night 'cause I ran into this girl I knew and liked just before Christmas.... and I was turning in to an emotional wreck.  So long story short this girl, according to the psychic, she is my soul mate and things are going to start to come together with her in the new year. She also said I would end up with D breasts although we couldn't get a clear answer as to whether they would be natural or implants. for that size I expect very much they will be implants. She said the hormones are working and it will be good. she also said that I would get surgery sooner then I expected. She kept getting october. but again couldn't get a clear answer if it was this coming October or the next... even October 2018 would be sooner then I expect but would give time for everything to happen....  I can't wait to see how things turn out. The one I saw has been dead on for what she told me before... So, I'm hoping she is right.  I was told by another one that my surgery would be in an October... so...

[Rebecca]

Welcome to breakfast anytime

Psychic thing sounds fun and hey who knows it could all happen. After all we can do anything.

[Jenny0713]

Ouch. Not sure I would want D's.


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[SarahElizabeth1981]

breakfast sound great.... let me just get the jet fueled up.... hahahaha I wish. One day. I really want to to see Scotland and Ireland and England.... so eventually I will go. got some other things to take care of before I spend money on traveling... 

I don't really want D's and I wouldn'y deliberately go for implants to make me that big. Maybe that will change with time. My forms are a C on me and I like them. I think it is a good size for my frame and not soo big they get in the way very much. I have played with some padding and got myself up to a D and I do like the way they look but they get in the way. it's amazing what that extra little bit makes. So, unless I change my mind there are two ways I can see it happening. 1) the doctor errors on the bigger side in the size of implant to make sure I get the C I'm after. 2) My breasts grow more after getting implants and I go from a C to a D. The latter I think is more likely 'cause if I have the money I won't wait as long as I probably should to get implants.

I'm kind of dreaming that I go to Montreal in October for bottom surgery and I get it done at the same time. I doubt that will happen but I don't want to jinx it either.  who knows maybe the stars will align in my favor.

[Rebecca]

Anything can happen hon. Heck my surgery went from "I wish I could to Thailand some day" to ok it's in a couple of months.

As you say maybe the stars will align and you'll get what you want sooner. When open to opportunities they seem to present themselves more often.

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[Jenny0713]

Question. Do you have to go through complete electrolysis down there before bottom surgery?  Electrolysis just sounds really painful so I am hesitant to do it. Not to mention it is very expensive too.


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[SarahElizabeth1981]

the recommendation varies slightly from surgeon to surgeon. Dr Brassard in Montreal doesn't require it. i don't think any surgeon actually requires it. some do recommend doing a triangle from the base of the scrotum down to the anus and the base of the penis.  I think all or pretty much all the GRS/GCS surgeons cauterize any hairs to eliminate hair growth in the vaginal cavity. So personally I'm not that concerned about it. after surgery I'll worry about what's left. i don't have much after using my Tria.

Yes Electrolysis is expensive and if you can find one that will do it down there even more expensive.

[Rebecca]

I had some done with laser and electrolysis before finding out Chet didn't need it.

Laser no probs just the occasional sting at tender spots.

With painkillers and EMLA cream electrolysis wasn't that bad but without either it's a pretty intense sensation.

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