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Possible to get free hrt??

Started by EmilyRyan, June 04, 2016, 08:51:36 PM

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EmilyRyan

From what I do know they have a sliding scale and if you make below a certain amount the visit and blood work an either be a no charge or the cost will be significantly reduced 
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FTMax

Quote from: Raye on June 16, 2016, 03:23:35 PM
I do know we will be dealing with HRT all our life. And I highly doubt it could be free, but I heard the other day that HRT is tax deductible since it is a medical expense. If that's true you could file it for a tax break.

Does a Planned Parent Clinic usually offer HRT at cheaper rates?

Yes. Every clinic type setting that I've seen offering informed consent generally has a sliding scale policy for low income folks, and many go as low as free. Planned Parenthood has a sliding scale, but I'm not sure how low it goes.

And yes. Keep your receipts for medications and invoices from doctor's visits and lab work. If the amount you spend on medical expenses is greater than the standard deduction, you should do an itemized deduction that includes those items to reduce your taxable income and the amount of tax you owe at the end of the year.

It is easy to jump over the value of the standard deduction if you're having anything surgical done and paying out of pocket expenses. I don't think I would've exceeded it without that, but you never know. Just keep the receipts anyway and run it through H&R Block next year. They'll tell you what the best plan is for you.
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DawnOday

Quote from: EmilyRyan on June 04, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
Is it possible to get an appointment for hrt at no charge??

My dysphoria has only gotten worse the past month and I'm at my wits end of trying to be able to finance the only chance I have is if there are doctors or clinics that do hrt for free. Please any help is appreciated.

Emily. Get yourself on your parents insurance. I know you are in Tenn. and your Governor did not participate in the ACA. But fortunately this part of it cannot be rejected. You are 24, you have two years eligibility left. There will be a copay but relatively small $10 - $20. Here is some information for you. If you are on your parents medical you generally pay 20% while insurance pays 80%
Quote from: Raye on June 16, 2016, 03:23:35 PM
I do know we will be dealing with HRT all our life. And I highly doubt it could be free, but I heard the other day that HRT is tax deductible since it is a medical expense. If that's true you could file it for a tax break.

Does a Planned Parent Clinic usually offer HRT at cheaper rates?
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: DawnOday on June 16, 2016, 07:26:43 PM
Emily. Get yourself on your parents insurance. I know you are in Tenn. and your Governor did not participate in the ACA. But fortunately this part of it cannot be rejected. You are 24, you have two years eligibility left. There will be a copay but relatively small $10 - $20. Here is some information for you. If you are on your parents medical you generally pay 20% while insurance pays 80%
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EmilyRyan

How would I keep my parents from finding out that I used insurance for hrt?? Our insurance office is what I can only describe as "tricky" at times and have doubts the HIPPA law can help.
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Kitty June

I know a lot of informed consent places will use diagnosis's that don't say transgender because there are exclusions in a lot of policies.
Endocrine disorder comes to mind. And hipa should prevent them from having access I would think as you're not a minor.
Not sure, but if you go to PP , I'm sure they would word things in your favor.  I was just thinking of the letters I got from my insurance saying "this is not a bill" but it did list things, so they might see that.
I would talk with them though about using non transgender diagnosis and treatment as far as the wording goes. You would then just have to be clever if they confront you with questions.
Good luck
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EmilyRyan

Yeah the fact it's impossible to avoid insurance sending a statement I think I better come up with something else anything other suggestions of am I actually SOL?? I guess I better get used to remaining a "guy".
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Raye

I wouldn't give up so easily where in TN do you live by the way currently I live in the Middle Sector - Fairview. There is an Informed Consent Endo out in Memphis and Knoxville as far as I know. I just moved over from Memphis to Fairview not to long ago. I still have a ml or 2 of my injection to use, but I've been looking crazy for a decent Endo LOL so hopefully I'll find myself a good one before I run out in a mo. But it won't be the end of the world if I still have to keep looking.

Because YOU could try applying for Wal-Mart I've been with those guys for a while now and they've been pretty good to me. Although, I can't say they've been better than my professional career @ A.O. Smith, but I really didn't have much of a choice to leave them for the housing situation I've been in now. But my recommendation is to talk to your parents about what's going on in your life - you'd be surprised they might help you out a lil until you find yourself a decent job.
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Tristyn

Quote from: FTMax on June 16, 2016, 07:12:23 PM
Yes. Every clinic type setting that I've seen offering informed consent generally has a sliding scale policy for low income folks, and many go as low as free. Planned Parenthood has a sliding scale, but I'm not sure how low it goes.

And yes. Keep your receipts for medications and invoices from doctor's visits and lab work. If the amount you spend on medical expenses is greater than the standard deduction, you should do an itemized deduction that includes those items to reduce your taxable income and the amount of tax you owe at the end of the year.

It is easy to jump over the value of the standard deduction if you're having anything surgical done and paying out of pocket expenses. I don't think I would've exceeded it without that, but you never know. Just keep the receipts anyway and run it through H&R Block next year. They'll tell you what the best plan is for you.

I think Emily should really listen to your advice. Man, the advice and suggestions you give are very golden!  :) I used and still do use alot of what you have suggested to me. I really appreciate members like you, FTMax. You are an awesome contributor of our community. Thank you!

@ Emily: I'm pretty sure someone already suggested this, but do you have any medical insurance? It's  very possible that you may have endocrinologists in your area whose willing to administer HRT on you without the devastatingly high out-of-pocket costs through your insurance. Not all insurances will pay for HRT, so be careful. It's worth a shot to at least look for an endocrinologist that will take whatever insurance you have over the pocket money but be sure that your insurance has those benefits first. Ok?  :) I hope that helps, even just a little!
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Raye

Even if your parents pull this move.... "Your too old and insurance won't cover it" is BS... They still will at least until your 26. Depending on the insurance company they can't allow your parents to take you off unless your 26. Although, that was the case for me since I was in school at the time and still have remained on my mother's insurance. But I still had to pay out of pocket, which is why I'll be file it with my taxes this year. You'd be very surprised what could happen. Even if you do have to pay out of pocket there are still plenty of Endos out there that will sympathize with your situation.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: Raye on June 18, 2016, 03:40:40 AM
Even if your parents pull this move.... "Your too old and insurance won't cover it" is BS... They still will at least until your 26. Depending on the insurance company they can't allow your parents to take you off unless your 26. Although, that was the case for me since I was in school at the time and still have remained on my mother's insurance. But I still had to pay out of pocket, which is why I'll be file it with my taxes this year. You'd be very surprised what could happen. Even if you do have to pay out of pocket there are still plenty of Endos out there that will sympathize with your situation.
hmmm so does that mean I can use my parent's insurance even if I suddenly leave home?? I do luckily have an insurance card they gave me if that's really the case. 
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FTMax

If you are listed as a dependent on the insurance, you can use it. But you should read the policy documents in advance so you know what kind of money you would need to pay. While copays are less than what you'd be paying out of pocket, the policy often dictates where you can go for services. Like my policy's in-network lab work provider is LabCorp so every time I have blood taken, it has to be done at a LabCorp location in order to minimize my out of pocket expenses. Going out of network, even inadvertently, could cost you the full price of the bill based on your policy's coverage levels.

You should also know that every time you use your insurance, it generates a claim. The primary person on the account will be notified that they have an Explanation of Benefits available usually a few days after that. It details what kind of service was done, where it was done, how it was coded, and the breakdown of what insurance paid and what your expected contribution is. I get these via email, but I know my mom has them mailed to her. So your parents would likely know within a week or two that you are using their plan, where you used it, and vaguely what you used it for.

I lived independently of my parents from the age of 17 on. Paid my own rent, did my own taxes, had bills in my name, etc. I was still able to be listed as a dependent on my mother's health insurance until I turned 26 last year and had to get my own policy. I am not sure if they can legally drop you from their policy before you turn 26 if you don't have a policy of your own, but they may be able to.

I'm also not sure if this is universal, it may just be for ACA plans, but I know with mine, I can only make changes to the policy if there is a change in life circumstance (ie. I get married and I need to add my wife to my policy, or my wife and I have a child and I need to add the child), OR it's during a specific time of the year (Open Enrollment season). So if that is a universal thing, you could find out when their Open Enrollment period is and start using their insurance immediately after that window is over. It would basically give you a full year to use the policy unless they find some way to boot you off of it or otherwise restrict your access to it.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: Raye on June 18, 2016, 01:35:43 AM
I wouldn't give up so easily where in TN do you live by the way currently I live in the Middle Sector - Fairview. There is an Informed Consent Endo out in Memphis and Knoxville as far as I know. I just moved over from Memphis to Fairview not to long ago. I still have a ml or 2 of my injection to use, but I've been looking crazy for a decent Endo LOL so hopefully I'll find myself a good one before I run out in a mo. But it won't be the end of the world if I still have to keep looking.

Because YOU could try applying for Wal-Mart I've been with those guys for a while now and they've been pretty good to me. Although, I can't say they've been better than my professional career @ A.O. Smith, but I really didn't have much of a choice to leave them for the housing situation I've been in now. But my recommendation is to talk to your parents about what's going on in your life - you'd be surprised they might help you out a lil until you find yourself a decent job.
Fairview as in Williamson County?? If so I live in Maury County not too far maybe one day we could get together for coffee or something I'd like to finally meet someone else that's transgender outside the internet.

As for looking to see if someone can provide hrt here in Middle TN there's a place in Nashville called Vine Hill Community Clinic and Nashville's Planned Parenthood does hrt. I'm not sure if you ever looked here but this link is how I found out about Vine Hill: http://www.tvals.org/medical-resources/

Quote from: FTMax on June 18, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
If you are listed as a dependent on the insurance, you can use it. But you should read the policy documents in advance so you know what kind of money you would need to pay. While copays are less than what you'd be paying out of pocket, the policy often dictates where you can go for services. Like my policy's in-network lab work provider is LabCorp so every time I have blood taken, it has to be done at a LabCorp location in order to minimize my out of pocket expenses. Going out of network, even inadvertently, could cost you the full price of the bill based on your policy's coverage levels.

You should also know that every time you use your insurance, it generates a claim. The primary person on the account will be notified that they have an Explanation of Benefits available usually a few days after that. It details what kind of service was done, where it was done, how it was coded, and the breakdown of what insurance paid and what your expected contribution is. I get these via email, but I know my mom has them mailed to her. So your parents would likely know within a week or two that you are using their plan, where you used it, and vaguely what you used it for.

I lived independently of my parents from the age of 17 on. Paid my own rent, did my own taxes, had bills in my name, etc. I was still able to be listed as a dependent on my mother's health insurance until I turned 26 last year and had to get my own policy. I am not sure if they can legally drop you from their policy before you turn 26 if you don't have a policy of your own, but they may be able to.

I'm also not sure if this is universal, it may just be for ACA plans, but I know with mine, I can only make changes to the policy if there is a change in life circumstance (ie. I get married and I need to add my wife to my policy, or my wife and I have a child and I need to add the child), OR it's during a specific time of the year (Open Enrollment season). So if that is a universal thing, you could find out when their Open Enrollment period is and start using their insurance immediately after that window is over. It would basically give you a full year to use the policy unless they find some way to boot you off of it or otherwise restrict your access to it.

My family's insurance plan is provided by my dad's work (he works fro GM) through Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan if that makes a difference. From what I do know about the plan is that it covers quite a bit like it covered my hospital stay last year after having my appendix removed even the CT Scan and blood work was covered only thing that had to be paid was the $25 co-pay.

Yeah I wish there was a way to prevent them from seeing the "explanation of benefits" if I were to use their insurance otherwise I go ahead and start hrt while they're away on vacation come later this month.
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Tristyn

Quote from: EmilyRyan on June 18, 2016, 09:04:04 PM
My family's insurance plan is provided by my dad's work (he works fro GM) through Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan if that makes a difference. From what I do know about the plan is that it covers quite a bit like it covered my hospital stay last year after having my appendix removed even the CT Scan and blood work was covered only thing that had to be paid was the $25 co-pay.

Yeah I wish there was a way to prevent them from seeing the "explanation of benefits" if I were to use their insurance otherwise I go ahead and start hrt while they're away on vacation come later this month.

Could you just get your own insurance policy then? I mean, if you have your own, your parents cannot see your explanation of benefits or any other part of your policy for confidentiality reasons. Maybe look into that. Sounds like you really don't want them to know about it. I told my dad up front that I am want hormones but I was with my therapist. Yeah, he says he doesn't want me doing the hormones in his house but I think he might begin seeing the seriousness of having hormones after I threatened to stop myself from living and got put in a psych ward. Hopefully you won't have to go to those extremes. But you know, once you're on hormones you're gonna see changes and eventually you will have to confront them about it.
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EmilyRyan

I can't afford health insurance and don't qualify for Medicaid in Tennessee  :(
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Tristyn

Quote from: EmilyRyan on June 18, 2016, 09:41:56 PM
I can't afford health insurance and don't qualify for Medicaid in Tennessee  :(

Emily, you really want hormones as if they are mandatory for you, right? I can tell, as I do as well. Have you considered selling some valuables of your's? Like some movies you might not want anymore? Maybe go on something like Craigslist. But be careful with it. Lots of scammers out there. I thought about doing that but I kinda just backed out cause of school and hoping that works out.

I mean, I wouldn't want for you to sell any of your stuff but it might be your only option right now. I know you don't want to hear this, but maybe you should apply for disability so you can get some money every month, save it up by pretending it does not exist, and use that for HRT. I believe where there is a will, there is always a way. My social worker told me that if I am passionate enough about something I failed at getting done, I will find another way. Life is a lesson. We live to learn. That is what I believe. You'll find a way. :)
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bprot

I had the luck of receiving trans health care and testosterone for free without the use of my WA state insurance. The area I lived in had no doctors willing to prescribe T to a 17 year old and even if they did, they didn't take state insurance. I ended up calling a clinic in Portland, OR and met with my current PCP and she set me up with free HRT. I pay the $10 clinic fee whenever I can but I don't get turned away for not having it. I would suggest looking for low cost clinics or trans friendly organizations in your area or around. Not having a car could be an issue unless your area has a medical-taxi service that can get you from point A to point B and back for free or a low cost/co-pay to you.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: bprot on June 18, 2016, 10:58:50 PM
I had the luck of receiving trans health care and testosterone for free without the use of my WA state insurance. The area I lived in had no doctors willing to prescribe T to a 17 year old and even if they did, they didn't take state insurance. I ended up calling a clinic in Portland, OR and met with my current PCP and she set me up with free HRT. I pay the $10 clinic fee whenever I can but I don't get turned away for not having it. I would suggest looking for low cost clinics or trans friendly organizations in your area or around. Not having a car could be an issue unless your area has a medical-taxi service that can get you from point A to point B and back for free or a low cost/co-pay to you.
This is why I wish I could move into that general area but if I did I be homeless since I couldn't afford the cost of housing. Can you still get Medicaid even if you are homeless??





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Kitty June

Actually it's easy if your homeless.
When I moved to Albuquerque I went to the transgender center first thing. They told me I could use their address for mail and government things. I had an address already though because I'm house sitting, so I use that.
Of course being homeless sucks, but here they at least help you. Not all state agencies are created equal, but Medicaid is for low income people and homelessness pretty much screams low income.
The transgender center also has a doctor that comes in once a week and I got all my prescriptions from them. They didn't have estrogen but they had spirolactone and everything was free. This was without Medicaid because I didn't use my old states plan since I had moved.
To be honest, it was ridiculously easy. I didn't even have my old prescription on me and I didn't have to prove I was poor. I did have these things, but I think because I knew my dosage and was able to tell them who my previous doctor was they just let me slide.
There are always ways, so don't give up hope. 
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Raye

"Fairview as in Williamson County?? If so I live in Maury County not too far maybe one day we could get together for coffee or something I'd like to finally meet someone else that's transgender outside the internet.

As for looking to see if someone can provide hrt here in Middle TN there's a place in Nashville called Vine Hill Community Clinic and Nashville's Planned Parenthood does hrt. I'm not sure if you ever looked here but this link is how I found out about Vine Hill: http://www.tvals.org/medical-resources/"


I've heard of the Vine Hill place and was about to tell ya as far as I know there is only one IC doc there. However she apparently is not taking anymore patients. Was good for you because I'm sure alot of us know how expensive this stuff is all here. Therapy, HRT, tests, check ups, insurance, and other things all adds up over time. That's why I had worked 85 hours a week with two jobs. And not because I was looking to get out of my last roommate situations. Yeah Fairview is a pretty decent and quiet town cops here know I'm trans a bit and they make sure no one bothers me. Because my last roommate was a complete dbag. Looking for work there best I can give is perseverance. Keep on applying and calling those places a day later after applying to say the interested in there position. And that you are a very hard worker. And be sure to call back at least a couple times a week to let them know your interested still and quite available. I have a bit of Charisma and I'm very friendly as well an interesting person in general. I realize some people aren't as much, but I've had some really bad luck believe me on this one. So I'm sure what ever bad juju has you down you'll get through this. FTMax left home at 17 and I left home at 19 seems to be a trend. I'm 6 years older and  still learning new things everyday. Regarding TVals I can't say I know them at all. I'm not as available all the time as much as I like to. Don't give up I think we all have faith in you Emily!!!

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