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Clinton Campaign Posts Inclusive Pride Message

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Clinton Campaign Posts Inclusive Pride Message

http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/6/26/clinton-campaign-posts-inclusive-pride-message-video

The Advocate/BY LUCAS GRINDLEY JUNE 26 2016 3:54 PM EDT

"Pride gave another reason to reiterate the "Stronger Together" slogan."
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cheryl reeves

Yeah right..I don't believe the Clintons on anything especially over this issue..did you all know the Clintons take in millions from people who hate the lbgt communities and want to see us dead. Go to Saudi Arabia sometime and see how they treat us which is far worse then what women face. The shooter in Orlando was a gun toting democrat who pledge alligence to Isis and hates the lbgt community,now we are being told by democrats that the republican party was responsible for this which I find ludicrous. I'm a gun toting conservative republican who will defend those who chose not to defend themselves.
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ChasingAlice

I believe that Hilary will help our cause more than Trump. However, Trump will make our country safer overall from foreign threats.

mac1

Quote from: cheryl reeves on June 27, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Yeah right..I don't believe the Clintons on anything especially over this issue..did you all know the Clintons take in millions from people who hate the lbgt communities and want to see us dead. Go to Saudi Arabia sometime and see how they treat us which is far worse then what women face. The shooter in Orlando was a gun toting democrat who pledge alligence to Isis and hates the lbgt community,now we are being told by democrats that the republican party was responsible for this which I find ludicrous. I'm a gun toting conservative republican who will defend those who chose not to defend themselves.

Yes, just explain how she can be for women and LGBT people when she has taken millions of dollars from countries that suppress those people and views.
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mac1

Quote from: ChasingAlice on June 30, 2016, 10:58:48 PM
I believe that Hilary will help our cause more than Trump. However, Trump will make our country safer overall from foreign threats.

I too believe that Trump is the best choice to keep our country safe and to put a control on our rising national debt.
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Colleen M

Personally, I think our financial, defense, and foreign policy problems are insoluble at this point.  The question for me then largely involves civil liberties while we decline, and I have objections to both on various grounds, but I do appreciate the gesture.

I've got other issues, but I'll take what I can get here.
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cheryl reeves

I tell people if you like Hillary so much go visit those countries the Clintons are receiving money from and how they treat transgender people and when you come back you will be a Donald Trump supporter.
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ChasingAlice

Call me crazy, but I care more about how LGBTQ individuals are treated here in States than over seas. I want to be able to use the damn bathroom, so Hilary is getting my vote.

Trump has an immigrant for his wife (who plagiarized the First Lady) and he hates immigrants. Total WTF!

cheryl reeves

Well Michelle Obama plagiarized parts of her speech just like her husband Barry Soetoro. Hillary is supported by people who hates the lbgtq and surrounds herself with people who also don't like us. I would rather have Donald Trump then a candidate who can't pass a background check.  Think before you vote for her and look at her background that would get most of us life in prison.
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 :police: Ok folks here is the deal Please remember no bashing, ridiculing or anything can be considered an attack someone or group. Please keep in mind TOS 5, 10 and 15. Now with that said. Lets get back on topic. Thanks
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Laura_Squirrel

Yeeeep.

Looks like someone's fishin' for votes.

Yeeeep.
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SlateRDays

Quite frankly I don't believe anyone running for president. Every event that's happening to us or foreigners, etc, is basic a bait trap to make either canidates look good now by supporting or by rejecting. Either way, if they "suddenly" seem like they are supporting us, please believe the chances are mighty high they will helicopter the other way once the cost is clear for the becoming president.

I don't believe they are looking out for anyone's interests whatsoever, so it's even more important, as much a possible, that we look out for our interests as individuals and a whole.
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judithlynn

Well as an outsider I must admit the differing positions from the two candidates are a bit worrying. (From an Australian point of view).

Over the last 90 odd years every time the US has asked Australia for assistance  on foreign wars e.g. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea  etc), Australia has always been there standing shoulder to shoulder with the US, often the first and sometimes the only country to fight alongside the US (Vietrnam is a case in point, where only last year I was in New York and someone was really surprised that Australia had lost a lot of lives fighting in Vietnam as they thought only the US fought there)). Australia and the US are very tightly  linked - just look at the RIMPAC USN/USMC and Australia Defence execerise happening right now off Pearl Harbour.  The US is now Australia;s biggest partner.

Trade, Pharmaceuticals, Defence - just about everything  you can think, Australia is very US Centric. But then I look at what both US Candidates stand on this special relationship. For instance we now have a whole USMC Amphib Readiness group based in Australia, US Airforce regulary using our Defence Training grounds. All our Armoured vehicles - MiA1 come from the US. Our Airforce fly FA18 Hornets and Super Hornets etc

Now of course I may be ill-informed, but from where I sit  the rhetoric tends to suggest that the Trump (and now yesterday the Republican Party stands for US isolationistism i.e.  retreating back to only focus on  US internal issues.

On the other hand I see Clinton  talking about Pacific engagement, more focus on Womens and LGBT issues,  better trade and so on.

Then we hear every day on TV in Australia  the Trump announcements about Immigrants, Mexicans, Border fence etc and last night I even listed to a speech from the National Rifle Association speaker at the  Republican convention talking about more citizens should be armed  to better protect the streets in the US, whereas there was a Police Chief who stated that when a policeman confronts someone that has been stopped on a DUI or traffic stop and are confronted with an openly displayed weapon (even if it is legally held, they need to shoot first and ask questions later).  Here in OZ every police officer whether State or Federal is armed, but no citizen has the right to openly carry arms, so they know that anyone the police see with a weapon (except in  the prairie (what we call the bush on  farms etc) is  very likely to be a felon.

No the funny thing, is that here in Australia I always vote what would be the Republican Party (here is National Liberal Coalition), yet  from where I stand (and admittedly its just my view from what I hear on Television and online), it appears hat the Democrats are a more socially inclusive, more internationally focussed and  more supportive of all people across  the US.

Obviously I don't have the ability to vote in the US, but  as a woman I would be placing my vote with the Democrats as I believe that from what I see their policies are more likely to keep me safe (I do travel to the US every few years).

But  basically the Democrats Left /Union centric views would normally be an anathema  to my social positiionng.

What worries me most I think is that  the GOP used to  stand for all US Citizens  with  more centrist views, yet  Trump and some sections of the Tea Party have pulled the GOP party sharply to the right, whereas Clinton has moved to the centre  effectively occupying  the Centre of US Politics.

Funnily enough I read an article somewhere just recently that the Trump candidature is actually a big plot by  the Clintons (remember Trump used to be best buddies with the Clintons) to stand  and effectively lose and in the process destroy the Republican party. Its almost certainly rubbish, but  my concern is that if he falls to get elected, this is exactly what may happen to the GOP.

Just an Australian's  observations.
Judith
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SlateRDays

Quote from: judithlynn on July 21, 2016, 02:23:50 AM

No the funny thing, is that here in Australia I always vote what would be the Republican Party (here is National Liberal Coalition), yet  from where I stand (and admittedly its just my view from what I hear on Television and online), it appears hat the Democrats are a more socially inclusive, more internationally focussed and  more supportive of all people across  the US.

Obviously I don't have the ability to vote in the US, but  as a woman I would be placing my vote with the Democrats as I believe that from what I see their policies are more likely to keep me safe (I do travel to the US every few years).

But  basically the Democrats Left /Union centric views would normally be an anathema  to my social positiionng.

What worries me most I think is that  the GOP used to  stand for all US Citizens  with  more centrist views, yet  Trump and some sections of the Tea Party have pulled the GOP party sharply to the right, whereas Clinton has moved to the centre  effectively occupying  the Centre of US Politics.

Funnily enough I read an article somewhere just recently that the Trump candidature is actually a big plot by  the Clintons (remember Trump used to be best buddies with the Clintons) to stand  and effectively lose and in the process destroy the Republican party. Its almost certainly rubbish, but  my concern is that if he falls to get elected, this is exactly what may happen to the GOP.

Just an Australian's  observations.
Judith

I focusing more on the later portion of your reply, but this actually why I don't like either canidate. Without 100% proof (I wish I had it), I have a terrible feeling that Trump is just the "funny guy". His participation since day one has always been odd to me, and the things he talks about has always felt to good to be true OR, like he's purposely trying to make himself look dumb to make Hilary look better. Seeing how for some amount of time presidents don't always have the citizens interests in mind, and that when something disasterous such as the horrific incident in Orlando and much more we don't know about, it's just seeming like the are trying to cash in on people who don't know any better and are in a desperate situation seeking change to improve their lives.

One of my slight fears is this; If we elect either of these people for president, WHO will ACTUALLY do what they said the would for the people? AND, hearing all I have been hearing lately, is it even a good idea for them to do most of these things? If these people get in office, and we realise they are lying and do a complete 180 on everything they have said, what are the chances of having them impeached successfully if we are unhappy? I have a concern that if all the "wrong" people get in office, it will be much harder to get them out than before.

Everyone has a right to live here, feel represented and supported,  have healthcare, live in reduced violent neighborhoods and trully feel like this is the right place to be. But if the majority the public is swinging one way and they are most represented and it turns out the wrong person is in office, then those of us on the other side may have trouble making our voice heard, when the others are completely content.

This candidacy is really hitting home on issues the affect us, LGBT+, but also everyone else. But how we, the community are treated will inadvertantly effect all others in the long run.

*pardon any missing or mispelled words. Sometimes my brain goes faster than my fingers.
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JeNn_DeViLz

Quote from: cheryl reeves on June 27, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Yeah right..I don't believe the Clintons on anything especially over this issue..did you all know the Clintons take in millions from people who hate the lbgt communities and want to see us dead. Go to Saudi Arabia sometime and see how they treat us which is far worse then what women face. The shooter in Orlando was a gun toting democrat who pledge alligence to Isis and hates the lbgt community,now we are being told by democrats that the republican party was responsible for this which I find ludicrous. I'm a gun toting conservative republican who will defend those who chose not to defend themselves.

Your completely 100% correct on this my dear I have been trying to tell EVERYONE I can about this because it directly affects US as a community!!! Gary Johnson is who I'm voting for!!!! Look at his stance on everything!!!
http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

And I do NOT believe its a vote for Hillary or Trump as this is who I WANT for President. Abraham Lincoln was a protested vote and look how that turned out!! Dump Trump and Drown HILLARY!
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JeNn_DeViLz

Quote from: judithlynn on July 21, 2016, 02:23:50 AM
Well as an outsider I must admit the differing positions from the two candidates are a bit worrying. (From an Australian point of view).

Over the last 90 odd years every time the US has asked Australia for assistance  on foreign wars e.g. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea  etc), Australia has always been there standing shoulder to shoulder with the US, often the first and sometimes the only country to fight alongside the US (Vietrnam is a case in point, where only last year I was in New York and someone was really surprised that Australia had lost a lot of lives fighting in Vietnam as they thought only the US fought there)). Australia and the US are very tightly  linked - just look at the RIMPAC USN/USMC and Australia Defence execerise happening right now off Pearl Harbour.  The US is now Australia;s biggest partner.

Trade, Pharmaceuticals, Defence - just about everything  you can think, Australia is very US Centric. But then I look at what both US Candidates stand on this special relationship. For instance we now have a whole USMC Amphib Readiness group based in Australia, US Airforce regulary using our Defence Training grounds. All our Armoured vehicles - MiA1 come from the US. Our Airforce fly FA18 Hornets and Super Hornets etc

Now of course I may be ill-informed, but from where I sit  the rhetoric tends to suggest that the Trump (and now yesterday the Republican Party stands for US isolationistism i.e.  retreating back to only focus on  US internal issues.

On the other hand I see Clinton  talking about Pacific engagement, more focus on Womens and LGBT issues,  better trade and so on.

Then we hear every day on TV in Australia  the Trump announcements about Immigrants, Mexicans, Border fence etc and last night I even listed to a speech from the National Rifle Association speaker at the  Republican convention talking about more citizens should be armed  to better protect the streets in the US, whereas there was a Police Chief who stated that when a policeman confronts someone that has been stopped on a DUI or traffic stop and are confronted with an openly displayed weapon (even if it is legally held, they need to shoot first and ask questions later).  Here in OZ every police officer whether State or Federal is armed, but no citizen has the right to openly carry arms, so they know that anyone the police see with a weapon (except in  the prairie (what we call the bush on  farms etc) is  very likely to be a felon.

No the funny thing, is that here in Australia I always vote what would be the Republican Party (here is National Liberal Coalition), yet  from where I stand (and admittedly its just my view from what I hear on Television and online), it appears hat the Democrats are a more socially inclusive, more internationally focussed and  more supportive of all people across  the US.

Obviously I don't have the ability to vote in the US, but  as a woman I would be placing my vote with the Democrats as I believe that from what I see their policies are more likely to keep me safe (I do travel to the US every few years).

But  basically the Democrats Left /Union centric views would normally be an anathema  to my social positiionng.

What worries me most I think is that  the GOP used to  stand for all US Citizens  with  more centrist views, yet  Trump and some sections of the Tea Party have pulled the GOP party sharply to the right, whereas Clinton has moved to the centre  effectively occupying  the Centre of US Politics.

Funnily enough I read an article somewhere just recently that the Trump candidature is actually a big plot by  the Clintons (remember Trump used to be best buddies with the Clintons) to stand  and effectively lose and in the process destroy the Republican party. Its almost certainly rubbish, but  my concern is that if he falls to get elected, this is exactly what may happen to the GOP.

Just an Australian's  observations.
Judith

Hey sweetie I gotta respond to this just in particular about our NRA and gunlaws. I live in the state of Missouri. In Kansas City Missouri I can OPENLY carry a firearm without a permit. Do I do that? Hell no! Should I carry a gun concealed HELL YES! In regards to people getting pulled over, alcohol/drugs and guns don't mix and they are breaking a MAJOR rule in gun safety! I choose not to drink because I believe alcohol is poison for the body with the exception to wine but again I don't drink but very very rarely. No one will ever change our stance on gun ownership. No one has the right to tell me what I'm allowed to defend myself with. People think the Ar15 platform is a military grade weapon. It is NOT even close to a military grade weapon, and even if it was its no more destructive than me driving my car into someones house or running people over with an object that keeps going and doesnt consume ammunition. I don't think people should have cars that go over 60mph because they're dangerous and there are too many irresponsible people who get behind the wheel and cause accidents and death. I was in the funeral industry for 3 years and I have buried a lot of people. And you are correct on relations to the United States working with Australia that goes back to Ww2 and I know this because my grandfather was a Marine on Iwo Jima, actually celebrated his 21st birthday on the island in the middle of defeating the Japanese who were heading straight for you! :) The point I am trying to make is you should not be afraid of those of us who choose to support our 2nd Amendment. I'm responsible and safe with my firearms and most of my friends don't even know I have guns. My daughter doesnt know I have them and I will keep it that way for a very long long time. Great post I enjoyed reading your response! :)

Jenn
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SadieBlake

Geez ok here's my $0.02.

First, check facts - the Clinton FOUNDATION took donations from the Saudis and other Arab states. It's no news that Bill Clinton has been a shameless self-promoter and he was far from my favorite president - in terms of economics and financial policy he was awful and was well known to trade on access. Both Bushes were far more tightly allied with the Saudis and that was while they were in office.

I've never in my life voted my wallet over my conscience fortunately with Obama I could vote both for a change. With the abysmal track record of the Republicans on both national security and economic policy over the last 2 decades there is no way I would vote for Trump. So much as I can't say I like Hillary, she'll get my vote and it will be in good conscience.

Barack was another matter. He had my full support the moment he spoke the word transgender in front of the cameras at hrc/LOGO in 2007. Not a T following 'LGB', he said the word and because of that I volunteered for the campaign for two weeks in Ohio. That election was called as I was nearing the PA border on my way back home where I would be at work for a bunch of homophobic Republicans at 9am the next morning following a 10 hour drive (yes Massachusetts has homophobia).

I'm proud that we took Ohio and glad that we've had two terms of Barack (I volunteered for the campaign again in 2012).  Lgbt people weren't very happy with him in '08 for being only willing to  support civil unions, not gay marriage. I didn't and don't hold that against him any more than I do the fact that he's not been able to effect the change we need in agriculture policy -- Iowa and other ag states are too much of a powerful voting block in the Senate.

From my point of view the 2003 Massachusetts sjc decision establishing gay marriage in my state cost us a second term of Bush  -- a terrible price and there were certainly immediate recriminations due to fears for the '04 election that proved well founded. My belief is you take progress where you can get it and having worked for gay marriage I was glad to see it come.

Hillary was weak on lgbt rights in 2008 and if  she's better today, it's because of ground that's been cleared by 8 years of Obama and a substantial push from the left from Sanders.
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Eevee

I don't completely trust Clinton either because I know corruption exists in her foundation. However, at least something is coming from it. Sure, the end doesn't necessarily justify the means, but I'd rather have it this way than have terrible means with a terrible end. I know corruption isn't just on the Clinton side either. I'll go for the lesser of two evils concerning that point. When the election is this terrible, my last resort is to look out for what benefits me the most. Otherwise I am just throwing my own goals of transitioning safely into the garbage bin.

Sure, Clinton. I suspect you may be pandering to me. At least someone is going that far.

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judithlynn

Hi Jenn;
Thanks for your very interesting reply.

A couple of comments. I just looked up Wikipedia and it says that :The AR-15 is a lightweight, intermediate cartridge magazine-fed, air-cooled rifle with a rotating lock bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas-operation or long/short stroke piston operation. It has been produced in many different configurations, including semi-automatic.  The prototype AR-15 rifle was designed by ArmaLite as a selective fire weapon for military purposes. Today, the AR-15 and its variations are manufactured by many companies and are popular among civilians and law enforcement forces around the world due to their accuracy.

In Australia, Firearm control was in place prior to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. In the 18 years before the 1996 massacre, there were 13 other gun rampages resulting in 102 deaths.

In 1996 Prime Minister Howard lead reforms to restrict a variety of firearm classes including high capacity semi-automatic rifles and pump action shotguns holding more than 5 rounds. He did this by threatening the states with a constitutional amendment to give power over gun control to the federal government.  (a constitutional amendment would require the support of a majority of voters, as well as a majority of voters in a majority of the states), as well as threatening reductions in federal funding, if they did not pass the laws he demanded. They all complied. The Australian government also bought back guns from people. In 1996-2003 it was estimated they bought back and destroyed nearly 1 million firearms.(including mine!)

Fairlly recently the Australian Institute of Criminology found, more than 90 percent of firearm homicides in Australia were committed by persons using illegally owned firearms.

As I am sure you know, The United States has the highest rate of gun related deaths per capita among developed countries, though it also has the highest rate of gun ownership among civilians.

Since 1996, in Australia the number of deaths related to gun related violence has dwindled every year. In 1979 six hundred and eighty-five people died due to gun violence, and in 1996 it was five hundred and sixteen. Since then, the numbers just continues to drop. In 2011 just one hundred and eighty-eight deaths, and more recently in 2014, two hundred and thirty deaths.

What is not well understood though  in the US is that Australia has not banned all guns. Gun laws in Australia are enforced at the federal level primarily through customs controls and at State level in all other forms of control. Gun ownership is accessible to the civilian population, but owners must have 'genuine reasons' to obtain a Permit to Acquire from their State government. For rifles, genuine reasons focus on either hunting and/or sport/target shooting, and do not include personal protection. Handgun licences are also available, and applied for separately. In New South Wales, and similarly in other states, firearm ownership is widely prohibited for convicted offenders or those with a history of mental illness, with mandatory police checks. Gun licences must be renewed either annually or every 5 years, and expire automatically if not renewed.

The legal age to obtain a firearms licence is 18 years in all Australian states. Minors may hold a Minor's Permit allowing them to use a firearm under adult supervision. In most states the minimum age for holding a Minor's Permit is 12 years. In most states holders of a Minor's Permit are allowed to use a firearm only on an approved shooting range between the ages of 12 and 16 years but are allowed to hunt under direct supervision of a licensed adult between the ages of 16 and 18 years.

One other thing is that unlike the US, it is compulsory that we have to vote. Failure to vote means a fine.  You can always vote  for an imaginary person e.g. Mickey mouse as a spoiled ballot paper, but you must attend and place something in the ballot box.

PS By the way I am not advocating gun laws as personally I  used to own a multi action shotgun (before I was compelled by the Australian legislation to sell it back to the Government).

Judith
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