Quote from: rainecloude on May 20, 2017, 05:03:04 PM
Hi Girls!
So due to a couple of different reasons I am unable to fly from my country Australia to a FFS surgeon. We don't currently have FFS specific surgeons here as far as my research has shown however I have spoken with a few surgeons who would be more than happy to do a feminizing rhinoplasty.
This wouldn't be too costly and I think would do a great job in adding a little more femininity to my face.
Has anyone just gotten a rhinoplasty and not full FFS? As you can see in my DP and the pic below my nose has a bit of a bump and is pretty wide/big on my face. I think I could definitely benefit from this procedure.
Any advice let me know!
Much love. <3
Hi rainecloude,
By doing a web search "site:virtualffs.co.uk forehead rhinoplasty" you can find some info on performing a rhinoplasty separately from forehead surgery. Specifically you might check out these pages...
http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/General_FFS_FAQ%27s.html(Search page for "Can I have my forehead and nose done separately?")
http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/Nose.html(Search page for "Nose and Forehead Together?")
I have no business affiliation with Virtual FFS but I did use her services a few times before having several different procedures performed separately over a 2 year period. If you can afford it, you might consider using her services for the following reasons:
- to get before/after simulations for feminizing rhinoplasty only (not other FFS).
- to include in that batch the same but with forehead/chin contouring.
- to get her general opinion and input.
I knew FFS was right for me when first seeing it and I had also managed to gain the knowledge that doing both forehead/rhinoplasty together was supposedly most optimum, but doing so much at once activated my overly cautious nature, leaving me in what seemed like an agonizing endless holding pattern for the longest time. My transition had been incremental to that point and now I was faced with a choice of "do all the boney work at once or be non-optimum." Not doing anything at all was a bit agonizing because there was no progress.
I eventually realized that I was never going to move forward without doing things incrementally so I got off the couch and got a feminizing rhinoplasty in 2015 which, on hindsight, I realized got me quickly past the rhinoplasty to not only appreciate it by itself, but to also realize
it wasn't enough. That led to a lip lift which I also appreciated but realized wasn't enough, and finally 1.5 years after the rhinoplasty, I ended up getting forehead/chin done.
It seems considerations about the most optimum route were stalling me in a manner I'd not break past without risking being incremental in a supposedly non-optimum manner. I took the risk to be incremental in that supposedly non-optimum manner and was rewarded greatly with forward momentum to the destination I really wanted to reach.
On hindsight, I might have done it all at once, but that's hindsight, and I'm not 100% certain.
I've seen both stellar and not-so-stellar FFS surgeon rhinoplasty results so I don't think all FFS surgeons are necessarily the best rhinoplasty surgeons. You have to shop around and do research.
Each person is different, so perhaps my nose starting point was optimum for this non-optimum incremental approach of rhinoplasty first. I can't say this is right for everyone but many do get a rhinoplasty before doing anything else. I think it's important to do research... perhaps contacting Virtual FFS, or getting consults with FFS surgeons even though you're not immediately ready for full FFS... asking them what they think if you get a rhinoplasty now and FFS with them later. Many surgeons will perform Skype consults so just because nobody is local to you doesn't mean you cannot have a consult.
My understanding of the whole "rhinoplasty at the same time as forehead" is that the top of the nose needs to blend/join the forehead in a smooth/correct manner. I can't say this for certain, but I was under the impression that if a person has a nose that fits their face now (before forehead work), whether done with rhinoplasty or not, that a good FFS surgeon can work with that nose to fit the forehead work. I was under the impression that a good FFS surgeon didn't see a prior good rhinoplasty as a blocker in doing great forehead work... but maybe I'm wrong on that.
I was in a completely different state before getting any surgery. Majorly overly cautious. (Knowing now what would happen in the year following my rhinoplasty puts a smile on my face.) At the time I got my rhinoplasty I wanted to ensure it fit my face. I wanted a feminizing rhinoplasty, but not one that was too small for my face. I'd seen feminizing rhinoplasties that seemed too small for the remaining genetic male features. My desire was to feminize the nose in harmony with my otherwise untouched face. I felt this would lead to less work rather than too much work, where more could be done later (assumptive on my part). I wanted the most feminine nose I could have for my otherwise unchanged face. I exchange thoughts on my case with the surgeon and just did it.
The result was not incompatible with my recent forehead work... but I can't say that would apply to all.
I'd be careful about going to just any old surgeon without doing some research, at least some rhinoplasty research if not more FFS research.
Watch the effects of expected "glitz" on your considerations: I'd been researching a rhinoplasty for decades, and I've been in many surgeons' offices and consults. Some of them were top-notch, others not the best match for me. Prior to that hindsight understanding, in almost all consults, there was often a moment of "good feeling," "hope," that this doctor was the "nose god" for me, the one. (I can hear the romantic music ... LoL) I mean, you're in a nice office, nice scents are in the air, you're hearing all the acknowledgements of what you want, and all that... it can be a glitzy convincing experience in the right/wrong offices alike.
The point here: Not only learn to trust your gut, and then trust it, but don't be guided by superficial things, or mere feel good feelings and nice pristine clean offices with big smiles greeting you and all that. Don't get me wrong, first impressions matter, cleanliness and professionalism matter, so that first presentation should be nice. Who doesn't want to go to a glitzy office of high quality work? I expect to have a good experience in the top-notch surgeon's office. I've yet to see a surgeon's office that isn't classy looking, with big smiles, and you will feel like a princess (or prince, depending) in almost any interaction with a professional office. The thing is, the glitz, or classy offices, or nice people, if you're focused on it—I especially think this can happen if you're new to researching plastic surgery—can make it difficult to weed out the best for you, from the ones who may not be a good match. I can also get emotionally attached which is part of what sales does... so I recommend watching those sales-driven emotional attachments. Don't sign up on the same day. Walk away, think about things, all that.
For clarity let me say... not all great surgeons have such classy offices, yet some do. Same with the ones that are not a match for you. So I'm not against the sales pitches... doctors have to do that. I'm just saying, at the end of the day, you want the best work, so all of the nice things you feel as part of that sales pitching doesn't really matter aside from what your gut tells you, what you see in before/after photos, and lots of things that are unique to you which I can't call out. You are your life's driver so if you're easily moved by good sales and glitz then beware. I guess not all are moved by that, but I have a difficult time sometimes rejecting, saying no, disagreeing. I've gotten over that over the years but when you're new to some things you might be easily swayed. I'm just trying to give you a heads up on that just in case. You seem like you've got it under control but I mention it fwiw.
Always ensure there are many before/after photos that show "after" results
you appreciate. No before/after photos, walk. My opinion but you don't want someone working on your nose who doesn't generally produce the results you're looking for.
Also, I think it's wise to realize all plastic surgery is risky and imperfect. I'm a better patient because I'm not seeking perfection rather than a good result. I once heard that good rhinoplasty doctors need to perform revisions about 5% to 10% of the time. Or that great rhinoplasty surgeons need to do revisions about 5% of the time, 10% being too much. I can't say what's accurate... but the point here is you don't want a revision but you also can never guarantee you won't need one. I feel this is another reason I'd want to see many before/after photos in line with my goals, and also generally seek a doctor who performs a lot of nose work, if not exclusively nose work (unless getting it with other FFS where I like the surgeon's overall results).
Treat yourself well in the research and selection... the nose seems easy to get wrong by the inexperienced, if not occasionally by those who are experienced. Again, Virtual FFS may be able to offer you some good info in this area... I'd recommend checking it out. Also, can't hurt for you to try to get a Skype FFS consult with some top FFS surgeons.
Best of luck with it.
Oh side note... I was in a little disbelief that your profile photo was the same person in the photo in your first post above... you are apparently very talented in making things work. That's a great talent to have as I don't think the need for it ever goes away, even for ciswomen. You gotta be able to see yourself and make things work... so you're already in a great place considering you've not had any surgery yet.
Cheers,
Ashley
