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Can a tall person pass after transitioning? (MTF)

Started by vetra, August 22, 2017, 11:37:45 PM

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Gertrude

Quote from: Dena on August 23, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
The thing to do is look at a site that caters to tall women exclusively. One of them is Long Tall Sally. All of the models have to be tall just to be able to show the fashions.
The thing with LTS is that the sizing is more for cis women: narrower on top than down below. I would be many tall trans women are bigger up top. To put it another way, at a thinner weight, I might be a size 20 skirt but a size 24 top. Dresses don't work like that. The other thing is torso and arm length. I'm 6'5, but have a 34" inseam. Not leggy at all. The only solution I see is to have stuff made/altered. There are a handful of places that do it. EShakti and sumassura come to mind. When I get down to my normal weight, I'm going to give them a try.


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Julia1996

I realize that being tall is like a major worry for transwomen.  But I think this is one of those things that really doesn't matter but that seems like a major thing to us. Most people, male and female think a tall woman is attractive. They associate a tall woman with models. My mom is 5'10 and has always gotten positive attention for it. I was with my brother and his friends once when they spotted a really tall woman who had to be at least 6'1. His friends were like "look at that! She's at least 6 feet tall. That's so hot!"  The thing about transwomen is that we are never happy with what we've got and wish we had something another woman has. I think we are worse than cis women about that.

A lot of transwomen think being small is the ideal. I can tell you it's not! Shorter people are overlooked and ignored a lot. And few people would actually want to trade places with a short person. There was a girl I went to school with who was almost 6 feet tall. Once she was saying she wished she was shorter.  I told her being short wasn't that great. She laughed and said she meant like maybe a couple of inches shorter. She said no-one would want to be as short as I am. Once one of my friends was talking about how she thought her feet were too big and said she wished she was smaller. Another girl asked if she wanted to be shorter. She said " OMG no! I just meant I wished my feet were smaller".  When my boyfriend met my mom for the first time he said he thought she would be shorter. I asked him why and he said my dad and brother are both very tall so he assumed my mom would have to be short to explain why I am. Then he asked me if albinism affects height too. He wasn't trying to be rude. It was just a " guy puts his foot in his mouth" moment. One time a few months into hrt I was complaining about having a flat butt and narrow hips and my grandma said not to worry about it and that many models had narrow hips and a flattish butt. My mom said " don't tell her that. Models are tall and statuesque. She's only 5'4, what could she model? Hats maybe."

I know a lot of you think being tall is a bad thing. But it's not at all so own it. If I could trade heights with one of you tall people I would believe me. I have always wanted to have long legs. So be tall and be proud. Tall women are awesome!
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Sophia Sage

Quote from: Gertrude on August 23, 2017, 11:01:54 PMThe thing with LTS is that the sizing is more for cis women: narrower on top than down below. I would be many tall trans women are bigger up top. To put it another way, at a thinner weight, I might be a size 20 skirt but a size 24 top. Dresses don't work like that. The other thing is torso and arm length. I'm 6'5, but have a 34" inseam. Not leggy at all. The only solution I see is to have stuff made/altered. There are a handful of places that do it. EShakti and sumassura come to mind. When I get down to my normal weight, I'm going to give them a try.

I find it really helps to go with separates!  So I can get my tops in a different size, for example.

But it's also a matter of putting the right clothes together.  So, long skirts that are worn where my waist should be, proportionately, for example, with a top that also accentuates where my waist should be, which is higher than where it really is.  I like "empire waist" tops, that are fitted just under the bust line, to do this.  Another trick is going with long tunics when wearing (high waisted) slacks or jeans.  Also, wearing tops that are darker than the rest of the outfit -- dark colors help to visually minimize the larger areas of our bodies. 

All of this really does become easier with being thinner, alas. 

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Gertrude

Quote from: Sophia Sage on August 24, 2017, 06:12:30 AM
I find it really helps to go with separates!  So I can get my tops in a different size, for example.

But it's also a matter of putting the right clothes together.  So, long skirts that are worn where my waist should be, proportionately, for example, with a top that also accentuates where my waist should be, which is higher than where it really is.  I like "empire waist" tops, that are fitted just under the bust line, to do this.  Another trick is going with long tunics when wearing (high waisted) slacks or jeans.  Also, wearing tops that are darker than the rest of the outfit -- dark colors help to visually minimize the larger areas of our bodies. 

All of this really does become easier with being thinner, alas.
It'll be another 7-8 months at the rate I'm going until I get down to my normal weight, which isn't that long. I'll have to buy a lot of new clothes. As far as pants and jeans go, yuk! :) only if I'm working on something.


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Undead Cat

Tall girls exist and aren't that uncommon,  I know many volleyball and basketball players who are about 190 cm.

You can always lie you have gigantism tho.
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Dani

I am 5'11" and the thinner I am the better I pass. I expected to be androgynous, but with weight loss, I am never misgendered.
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Sydney_NYC

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 24, 2017, 06:09:08 AM
I realize that being tall is like a major worry for transwomen.  But I think this is one of those things that really doesn't matter but that seems like a major thing to us. Most people, male and female think a tall woman is attractive. They associate a tall woman with models.........

You are absolutely correct on this. I was at a huge wedding for my youngest cousin this past weekend and the groom is the same height as me at 6'5" and has a sister that is 6'2". I was wearing a size 16 dress from Lane Bryant that looked really good on me and I got a ton of compliments. I didn't feel out of place at all and several people commented on my height saying I should be a model. I told them at age 47, I'm too old to be a model and they were stunned that I was 47.
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TonyaW

Quote from: Gertrude on August 23, 2017, 11:01:54 PM
The thing with LTS is that the sizing is more for cis women: narrower on top than down below. I would be many tall trans women are bigger up top. To put it another way, at a thinner weight, I might be a size 20 skirt but a size 24 top. Dresses don't work like that. The other thing is torso and arm length. I'm 6'5, but have a 34" inseam. Not leggy at all. The only solution I see is to have stuff made/altered. There are a handful of places that do it. EShakti and sumassura come to mind. When I get down to my normal weight, I'm going to give them a try.


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Old Navy has tall sizes on line for lots of stuff.  Jeans they have the tall sizes in the stores.  I've bought a few pair of jeans in the store and ordered some tops on line that fit well.  I tried stuff on in the stores and then ordered the tall of that size online.  (I'm 6'3"  225 and trying to drop)

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Gertrude

Quote from: TonyaW on August 29, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
Old Navy has tall sizes on line for lots of stuff.  Jeans they have the tall sizes in the stores.  I've bought a few pair of jeans in the store and ordered some tops on line that fit well.  I tried stuff on in the stores and then ordered the tall of that size online.  (I'm 6'3"  225 and trying to drop)

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I'm 6'5 and north of 300. I've lost 42lbs in 10 weeks after Deborah turned me on to the ketogenic diet. When I was young, fit and male mask presenting, 235-240 was my fighting weight. A bigger version of Pierre Coetzer. Now that I'm older and with less muscles, I figure 220 would be fine. I figure size 18-20 then. Not into jeans though, at least as a fashion statement, except for working on something.
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Pisces228

I am 5'9, which is tall but not unusually tall for a girl.  However, I have 2 coworkers who are cis women and they are both over 6 feet tall.  My younger sister is 6'2.  People just think they are tall girls......which they (we) are, thats all :)  I have started noticing tall women more since transitioning.  Theres a lot of them out there.
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DawnOday

Alloy, ASOS and Jc Penny has tall sizes. i wear 16 and love to shop at venus.com. However it's not age appropriate. Still I am able to find some things and they are all so cute. But if you are a younger person you will think you have died and went to heaven.
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JoanneB

I'm 6ft and achieved my life long dream (50 years) of being seen as an accepted as a woman

A female friend friend of mine, the "runt" of the family at only 5'11".... need I say more?

A doc in the practice my wife went to... 6' blond and a size 7, the bitch. I take solace in knowing how IMPOSSIBLE it is for her to find clothes that fit

My ex Wife, 5'11, another size 6.... Her BIG complain 3/4 length sleeves  EXCUSE ME

OK  Jeans are a maybe. Skirts and dresses always work if you like girlie-girl. Dress slacks for work.... Soon on my horizon I fear
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Gertrude

Quote from: DawnOday on September 09, 2017, 05:15:49 PM
Alloy, ASOS and Jc Penny has tall sizes. i wear 16 and love to shop at venus.com. However it's not age appropriate. Still I am able to find some things and they are all so cute. But if you are a younger person you will think you have died and went to heaven.
Most tall sizing I've seen is limited in size and not always proportionately taller. Some just make the hem longer and the chest/bust size relative to waist/hips is CIS oriented. To put it another way, taller isn't just longer.


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Nina

Being tall is only an issue in our mind. As time goes on, height should become less of a concern.
My first two years, I wa totally paranoid. Now, the only time I think about height is when I read these forums.
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rmaddy

Quote from: NJOttawa on September 10, 2017, 10:55:00 AM
Being tall is only an issue in our mind.

A little easier to say at 5'10" than 6'3", dontcha think?  ::)

Being tall doesn't make one less of a woman, but it does attract more scrutiny and leads to more frequent problems with misgendering.
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Lyric

My favorite supermodel of the moment is Karlie Kloss, who, while a genetic woman, is 6'2". She wears heels all the time and has probably never been "misgendered". While she's unquestionably beautiful, her ever appealing personality has as much to do with her success as anything, I think. If people find you delightful to be around it can make up for a lot of appearance issues even if.

Check out Karlie's YouTube channel. It's always a spirit booster for me.
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staciM

Quote from: Lyric on September 12, 2017, 10:37:56 AM
My favorite supermodel of the moment is Karlie Kloss, who, while a genetic woman, is 6'2". She wears heels all the time and has probably never been "misgendered". While she's unquestionably beautiful, her ever appealing personality has as much to do with her success as anything, I think. If people find you delightful to be around it can make up for a lot of appearance issues even if.

Check out Karlie's YouTube channel. It's always a spirit booster for me.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH5Qu8Sd-m-7Zk4xc_J5VzA/videos


She IS inspirational, but she has also been quoted as saying.....

"I think I would look like a crazy woman walking around N.Y.C. in heels since I'm 6'1″ and 6'4″ in heels. Plus, I take the subway, so I'd stand out even more!"

She wears heels when she is "suppose to" or is expected to (modeling etc), flats/sneakers  when it's her choice.
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DawnOday

Maria Sharapova is 6'2", Gabriel Reese is 6'3" there height does not seem to limit them. Maria is a record of 3 grandslam titles. Gabriel was a multiple olympics champion. Passing is in the eye of the beholder. How much effort you put into mimicking a woman;s behavior will determine if you pass or not Outfits not so much. Also eliminating facial hair and growing your own hair out will go a long way.
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rmaddy

While I thoroughly believe that we are who we are and that we make do, the comparison formula, "Well, so-and-so is tall and she's beautiful" cuts a few logical corners.  Yes, there are tall women, but being tall is only one of many things that tend to gender me male to others.  It's sort of like when my cis friends say "Hey, I got called sir once" when I tell them about it happening to me all day long.
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Gertrude

I wonder if we lived in a world where trans people were accepted, would we try to fit the binary, exclusively?


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