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Started by Julia1996, August 31, 2017, 01:08:35 PM

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SailorMars1994

Quote from: FTMax on August 31, 2017, 04:04:44 PM
I'm not surprised you say that Max. I would expect as much from a mushroom hater. Lol jk.


I ate a mushroom yesterday. Still gross :(

I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.
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Laurie

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on August 31, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.

  I beg to disagree Ashley. Mushrooms are delicious. Especially sauteed in butter with garlic, salt, and cracked pepper with a dash of white wine.

Bon appétit,
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FTMax

Quote from: Laurie on September 01, 2017, 01:49:54 AM
Quote from: SailorMars1994 on August 31, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.

  I beg to disagree Ashley. Mushrooms are delicious. Especially sauteed in butter with garlic, salt, and cracked pepper with a dash of white wine.

Bon appétit,
    Laurie

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LizK

I am sorry but I don't think I can abide all this hating on mushrooms.... :icon_cry2:  a fine piece of fungus  ;)

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Kendra

Some mushrooms are quite large, steak sized.  But they are not adequate as knee and shoulder protection.
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Artesia

Sorry, but something that is capable of growing between my toes is not entering my mouth.  Just say no to fungi   :icon_blah:


Mushroom walks into a bar
Bartender says "we don't serve your kind here"
Mushroom says "Buy why, I'm a Fun guy"

Insert groans and eye rolls here.
All the worlds a joke, and the people, merely punchlines

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Julia1996

Artesia, if you are capable of growing mushrooms between your toes you might want to wash your feet once in a while. (Just kidding) lol. I'm sorry but I love mushrooms! Once when we had ordered pizza my boyfriend picked the mushrooms off of his and gave them to me. He said he could eat mushrooms but he wasn't wild about them. But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!
Julia


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Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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LizK

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 01, 2017, 06:47:11 AM
..... But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!

Funny thing is you are certainly not the first to comment on that wonderful elixir of life called Vegemite. The blackish brown gooeyness of Vegemite....in fact how about a Vegemite and Potato crisp sandwich... or vegemite and shallots on fresh bread.....or vegemite on hot toast.....or vegemite in your gravy...and last but certainly least vegemite on rye with a poached egg on top...all real foods hmmmmm  hmmmmm ask Tristan I am sure he would appreciate those and have a couple of his own to add  ;D ;D
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Julia1996

Quote from: ElizabethK on September 01, 2017, 07:22:07 AM
Funny thing is you are certainly not the first to comment on that wonderful elixir of life called Vegemite. The blackish brown gooeyness of Vegemite....in fact how about a Vegemite and Potato crisp sandwich... or vegemite and shallots on fresh bread.....or vegemite on hot toast.....or vegemite in your gravy...and last but certainly least vegemite on rye with a poached egg on top...all real foods hmmmmm  hmmmmm ask Tristan I am sure he would appreciate those and have a couple of his own to add  ;D ;D
I'm sure he could come up with more ways to eat Vegimite. That is when I know what he's talking about. Aussies have some.....interesting words for food items and things in general. Bumnuts are eggs, crisps are potato chips, etc. Once when a woman with a baby in a stroller walked by us he said " what a cute bub". I was like "what? Who is bub?"  Bub is Australian for a baby. Lol
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Artesia

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 01, 2017, 06:47:11 AM
Artesia, if you are capable of growing mushrooms between your toes you might want to wash your feet once in a while. (Just kidding) lol. I'm sorry but I love mushrooms! Once when we had ordered pizza my boyfriend picked the mushrooms off of his and gave them to me. He said he could eat mushrooms but he wasn't wild about them. But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!

I think it is more needing to stop wearing my male shoes. Those things stink BAD!!!

Job is over now, so no more wearing them for work, so maybe no more bad feet.
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Rowena_Ellenweorc

Well... I was gonna write a more serious reply to this... then I got distracted by the talk of food... Especially mushrooms. Mmmmm.  They are really good cooked with.... oh crap... what's it called... OH! Balsamic vinegar and glaric and onion....
Edit:  I meant garlic... I have NO idea what glaric is....

Don't like chicken though... being one or eating it...

Okay, now for the more serious reply... okay so its only slightly more serious.  Doing stupid things is fun... liiiiike going down a very steep hill on a razor scooter when your brake doesn't work as is, and without a helmet.  Yeah, why did I think that was a good idea? (In case anyone's wondering, I at least was smart enough to jump off my scooter close to the top of the hill so I didn't crash and die at the bottom... Just ended up with a broken shoulder blade, my eyebrow cut open, and a bunch of other scars. [You know you did something stupid when you have to be numbed just to get your scrapes clean])
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April 2017 - Realized I'm Non-Binary
June 2017 - Started Therapy
August 2017 - Came out to parents
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November 26, 2017 - Came out https://www.facebook.com/notes/karen-ren-losee/please-read/10155966104353223/ on FB

"Walking beside the guilty and the innocent
How will you raise your hand when they call your name?"
- Bon Jovi "We weren't Born to follow"

I am done crying over not being feminine.
I am done griping about being too masculine.
I will be me.
And that's a non-binary being.
I am... ME!

....

This... is MY story
The story of a girl trapped in a guy's body.
A boy trapped in a girl's body.
No.  Its the story of a... human being.
- From one of my poems
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rose

Because they are guys

I totally avoid any group of guys I see in my way because I know they can do stupid things

Since I was little I always consider boys dumb their actions prove that to me

I live in all boys environment and honestly they never grow up mentally and always bully me because I'm different than them

The simple answer because they are boys they do dumb things

Lol they see us girls the same way btw
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Rowena_Ellenweorc

Quote from: rose on September 02, 2017, 02:59:54 AM
Lol they see us girls the same way btw

Truer words never spoken.  I've never understood girls. They make no sense to me.

Though to be fair, I don't understand men either...

Honestly, I think that's kinda one of the great things about being trans and/or non-binary is you get a perspective from both worlds, and realize... DANG such and such that men/women do is DUMB. (And then half the time you find yourself doing it anyway, lol....) I know there are some people who would rather just be seen as their preferred gender without the label 'trans'.  Personally though, I feel like its something to own and be proud of. At least that's what my goal is.
~Ren

Born May 1989 - Assigned Female
October 2016 - Came out to self/online
Feb/March 2017 - Officially came out to husband
April 2017 - Realized I'm Non-Binary
June 2017 - Started Therapy
August 2017 - Came out to parents
October 2017 - modified FB profile
November 26, 2017 - Came out https://www.facebook.com/notes/karen-ren-losee/please-read/10155966104353223/ on FB

"Walking beside the guilty and the innocent
How will you raise your hand when they call your name?"
- Bon Jovi "We weren't Born to follow"

I am done crying over not being feminine.
I am done griping about being too masculine.
I will be me.
And that's a non-binary being.
I am... ME!

....

This... is MY story
The story of a girl trapped in a guy's body.
A boy trapped in a girl's body.
No.  Its the story of a... human being.
- From one of my poems
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Red Lion

I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.
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Julia1996

Quote from: Red Lion on September 03, 2017, 01:38:01 AM
I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.

Thankfully my dad isn't too bad but my brother is another story. Its like he works overtime to be annoying. Before I try to pour anything into a measuring cup or anything like that I've learned to check that my brother is no where around. I've lost count of how many times he has slipped up behind me and grabbed my sides and screamed making me spill whatever it was all over. He also likes to hide around corners and jump out and scare the crap out of me and if he ever gives me a soda I know to let it rest a while before opening it because it's a guarantee that he shook the hell out of it before he gave it to me. Guys have kind of a mean sense of humor. The stuff they do to each other as a "joke" can be really mean.

And I don't know if it's all guys, but most of them can give it out but they can't take it. If they suddenly find themselves the butt of the joke the turn into big babies. My brother is equal opportunity annoying. He will mess with my dad too. One night my dad was watching TV and Tyler kept messing with him. He would spray him with the spray bottle we use for the cat, throw cheese goldfish at his head, etc. Just stupid guy stuff. My dad told him to keep it up and see what happened.  Instead of leaving him alone my brother seemed to take that as a challenge. He went over to my dad and he would smack him in the head and then jump away and tell my dad he was too slow. By smack in the head I don't mean actual slapping. Just play smacking. In the blink of a eye my dad suddenly had Tyler on the floor and pinned down. My dad started smacking him in the head like he had done to him and he soaked him with the cat bottle. Then he asked Tyler if he was still as ticklish as when he was little and started tickling the crap out of him. Well....Tyler had a little accident and peed his pants. Then I almost peed mine from laughing at him. He asked my dad why he would do something like that, and that he had only been playing. The he said that it was totally messed up that my dad would do something like that. Then he said " and you shut up Julia. It's not funny!". He was actually still mad at my dad the next day. My dad told him told him to remember what had happened the next time he thought about messing with him and to get over it or the next time Tyler's friends were over he would make him pee his pants in front of them.

Sometimes watching guys interact is like watching baboons in the wild.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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Laurie

Quote from: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 01, 2017, 04:56:35 PM

Okay, now for the more serious reply... okay so its only slightly more serious.  Doing stupid things is fun... liiiiike going down a very steep hill on a razor scooter when your brake doesn't work as is, and without a helmet.  Yeah, why did I think that was a good idea? (In case anyone's wondering, I at least was smart enough to jump off my scooter close to the top of the hill so I didn't crash and die at the bottom... Just ended up with a broken shoulder blade, my eyebrow cut open, and a bunch of other scars. [You know you did something stupid when you have to be numbed just to get your scrapes clean])

Thank you Rowena for heading us back on topic. Though I enjoyed the side track and was guilty of participating in it myself, it was off topic. I shall have to keep an eye on myself and try not to stray and derail topics.

laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Red Lion

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 03, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
Thankfully my dad isn't too bad but my brother is another story. Its like he works overtime to be annoying. Before I try to pour anything into a measuring cup or anything like that I've learned to check that my brother is no where around. I've lost count of how many times he has slipped up behind me and grabbed my sides and screamed making me spill whatever it was all over. He also likes to hide around corners and jump out and scare the crap out of me and if he ever gives me a soda I know to let it rest a while before opening it because it's a guarantee that he shook the hell out of it before he gave it to me. Guys have kind of a mean sense of humor. The stuff they do to each other as a "joke" can be really mean.

I have a brother too, and he's about the same. Loud, annoying and doesn't know when to leave people alone. He can't take his own medicine either.

I know plenty of guys who aren't super obnoxious, but yeah, seems like when you get a lot of them in a group together they're more prone to do stupid ->-bleeped-<- and now that I think about it, the mean sense of humor is kinda prevalent even in the quiet ones.
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Rowena_Ellenweorc


Quote from: Laurie on September 03, 2017, 01:02:04 PM
Thank you Rowena for heading us back on topic. Though I enjoyed the side track and was guilty of participating in it myself, it was off topic. I shall have to keep an eye on myself and try not to stray and derail topics.

laurie

Haha, any time. ;) Bur hey at least it was amusing of a derailment.

Quote from: Red Lion on September 03, 2017, 01:38:01 AM
I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.

I wish I could say it has something to do with where you're (generic you obviously) placed in the family,   My dad is the eldest... and at a lovely 73, put him around the rest of the family, he's an idiot... Let's just say there's a reason he's the favorite uncle.

And then there's me, who is the youngest by 8.5 years.  And well... scroll up for my big stupid story.

Frankly, there's no rhyme or reason to it... logically speaking.  However from a sociological standpoint, Actually... I have a bad habit of writing to much as is, and I could go on and on for hours about the sociology behind it all.  But sum up... If you get together any group of people with certain similarities, its going to bring out those similarities in prominence.

Get together a bunch of people who naturally have an inclination to say, 'Hey watch this', then because of the inclination being present in all of them, that thought will then be followed by a stupid action, then subsequently followed by sirens.

Lets take a cultural example. (I'm using one from personal experience)  I came from the Washington DC area before moving to Utah.  As many of you probably would guess, its a multicultural, multiethnic hub of activity. I grew up one of a few Mormons, so in a school setting, the Mormon traits didn't seem so abundant. You had to look for them.  However, in 2005, I moved to Utah.
The difference in coming to a place known for its Mormons was drastic. The traits that seemed so hard to notice, take something simple like, 'Don't drink' or 'Don't shop on Sunday' were prominent.  Many businesses are closed on Sundays.  Liquor sales... well don't get me started on that.  There's an LDS church on practically every corner. Now these aren't necessarily bad (okay maybe the liquor ones are a bit extreme, but that's a different story for a different day), unlike boy stupidity when they get together. But the point remains.

Put any liketraited individuals together, and those traits will become more prominent/noticeable.

Oh... didn't I say I wasn't going to go into sociology?  Oh well, at least I kept it fairly short. For once.
~Ren

Born May 1989 - Assigned Female
October 2016 - Came out to self/online
Feb/March 2017 - Officially came out to husband
April 2017 - Realized I'm Non-Binary
June 2017 - Started Therapy
August 2017 - Came out to parents
October 2017 - modified FB profile
November 26, 2017 - Came out https://www.facebook.com/notes/karen-ren-losee/please-read/10155966104353223/ on FB

"Walking beside the guilty and the innocent
How will you raise your hand when they call your name?"
- Bon Jovi "We weren't Born to follow"

I am done crying over not being feminine.
I am done griping about being too masculine.
I will be me.
And that's a non-binary being.
I am... ME!

....

This... is MY story
The story of a girl trapped in a guy's body.
A boy trapped in a girl's body.
No.  Its the story of a... human being.
- From one of my poems
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Kendra

Car surfing is easier to explain if all participants wear antlers. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Rowena_Ellenweorc

Quote from: Kendra on September 04, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Car surfing is easier to explain if all participants wear antlers.

oh wow... that made me laugh way harder than it should have.
~Ren

Born May 1989 - Assigned Female
October 2016 - Came out to self/online
Feb/March 2017 - Officially came out to husband
April 2017 - Realized I'm Non-Binary
June 2017 - Started Therapy
August 2017 - Came out to parents
October 2017 - modified FB profile
November 26, 2017 - Came out https://www.facebook.com/notes/karen-ren-losee/please-read/10155966104353223/ on FB

"Walking beside the guilty and the innocent
How will you raise your hand when they call your name?"
- Bon Jovi "We weren't Born to follow"

I am done crying over not being feminine.
I am done griping about being too masculine.
I will be me.
And that's a non-binary being.
I am... ME!

....

This... is MY story
The story of a girl trapped in a guy's body.
A boy trapped in a girl's body.
No.  Its the story of a... human being.
- From one of my poems
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