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GCS & BA with Dr. Ley at Meltzer clinic

Started by Kendra, November 04, 2017, 12:18:18 PM

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I was driving my old Audi although I'll have to rename it - as of Jan 18 my audi changed to an innie. 

I was laughing at this and told Deb you said you would have to change the name of your Audi.  She looked up and immediately said, "Innie?"  LOL
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Briah

I was away from Susan's for a while but was wondering how it was going.  Now I have read the whole threat, shed a few tears, and am so happy for you.  In every picture you look ecstatic.  Glad you didn't use that snow shovel, you could end up undoing something.  Charge ahead--slowly!
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Kendra

Today is two weeks post-op.

What have I learned and would like to share?  I learned that, much like electrolysis, some pain is unavoidable but absolutely worth it to reach goals.  I learned the support and compassion here on Susan's is incomparable - beyond anything I imagined possible.  In our own ways we are each climbing mountains regardless of surgery or other details.  I wish the achievement of happiness for all of us. 

And... there is dilation.  Nine days into that, 4 times per day.  A few friends (not on Susan's) have joked that's a prescription for "I want what she's having" several times per day and let me tell ya that is definitely not pleasurable yet.  At all.  Dilation at this stage is more like cramming a carrot all the way into your ear every few hours, if your ear was a recent surgical site trying to heal.  I'm confident that will be enjoyable in a few months but for now it's purely a medical procedure and I am following those directions exactly.  Too much work went into this to cut corners now.

The first day of dilation in the hospital was okay, some pain but I managed.  I barely hit the full desired depth and have maintained that since.  The next couple days I was a bit alarmed with increasing pain during dilation - to the point where it was really bad but I heard very clearly this is extremely important - it must be completed each time.  I described details to Dr. Ley and she confirmed I'm doing this correctly and will very gradually get better with time.  She was right.  But in the meantime, when I returned to Seattle (10 days post-op) dilation was heart-pounding bad.  The following morning was worse so I started thinking about the math... 4 times per day, 24 hours per day, but overnight was 9pm and then at 7am.  My morning dilation was the worst because things had 10 hours to settle in.  I'd rather trade a loss of sleep for excruciating pain so I started dilating at exactly 6 hours day or night.  Problem solved.  By setting an 11pm alarm and waking up at 5am, dilation immediately became easier.  Today, dilation has progressed to the point it goes fairly quickly and it's not that bad.  I won't go back to a normal sleep schedule until I'm certain I can dilate without excessive pain. 

And here's my lists. 

Things I brought to Arizona:
- Any prescriptions including HRT (don't re-start until talking to the doctor at the hospital).
- Medical insurance card if you have one (you'll have a few take-home prescriptions to fill).
- Comfortable flip-flop sandals.  GOOD DECISION.  This enabled me to walk across the room without bending over to put socks on.  I wore the same sandals out in Scottsdale and for the flight home.
- Laptop & phone of course, and chargers.  I found 6 foot (2 metre) charger cords were barely long enough... 10 foot would have been better, to reach the bed or table from wall outlets. 
- Skirts or dresses.  I didn't bring a dress, but a skirt or two is essential for going outside and the trip home - along with comfortable shirts.  I didn't pack a jacket (this is Arizona) but an over-wrap is nice for colder evenings outside.
- Toothbrush, toothpaste, hairbrush, shampoo/conditioner etc.
- Lotion.  I found the hospital's lotion was icky.
- Passport (crazy quick drive to Mexico the day before surgery)

Details to make things go easier (in addition to instructions provided by the clinic):
- Order 3 meals at a time.  Greenbaum Hospital requires you call each meal in by a deadline.  So I'd call a bit early to avoid rush and order the next 3 meals, less chance of forgetting.
- Double-up the hospital underwear.  They provide ugly but very comfortable soft cotton panties, so comfortable that's all I wore - and continued to a couple days after returning to Seattle.  I found during the first few days post-op, standard healing discharge would get around the sanitary pad and soak through the underwear (sorry if that sounds gross, just a medical fact).  Doubling-up the underwear solved that problem (avoided getting anything on clothes or bed), and gave me the confidence to go for long walks. 
- Order prune juice with every meal.  It's a small amount, but adding that allowed me to avoid harsher medications and I never experienced problems in this department.  Constipation right after GCS would be more than painful, it can cause risk to the surgical area.
- Cut back on coffee before arriving for surgery.  (I didn't do this and wish I had).  I had been consuming 2-3 "Grande" coffees per day.  A single "serving" of coffee is 6 ounces... so I had been slammin' 5-7 servings per day.  The day before surgery has a strict diet (clear liquids only), no coffee the day of surgery or the day after.  Nurses confirmed what I already knew: although coffee is available and allowed when you can go back on solid foods, caffeine is not your friend when you're trying to manage pain.  I had already learned to skip coffee the morning of electrolysis.  Day One post-op I had a very intense caffeine headache in my forehead - strong enough to feel through morphine.  My advice is: don't make recovery more difficult... cut caffeine to a very low level several days before surgery. 

Things I did not need to bring:
- Bathrobe.  Meltzer/Ley provides an awesome spa-type bathrobe.  But if they didn't, I woulda wished I had brought one.
- Snacks.  Greenbaum hospital has a stash of simple snacks, and post-surgery my appetite was not much - I ate because I knew it's good to during recovery.  And I gotta say those graham crackers rock when you are first starting on solid food. 
- Sanitary pads.  You will definitely need these at home but the hospital provides all that's needed while there.
- Extra underwear/panties.  Same as with the pads - the hospital provides these, not stylish but very comfortable.
- Extra socks.  The hospital provided socks with traction pads on the bottom (standard socks are a slip hazard on a smooth floor).  By bringing flip-flops I was able to avoid socks once I was able to get out of bed.
- Ibuprofen, etc.  All pain relief medicines including ibuprofen are provided by the hospital while on site.
- Jeans or any tight pants.  No way, not for awhile after GCS... leave those home. 
...and overall, don't bring stuff you do not need.  For the return trip you will have additional luggage because of the post-op kit they hand you (a small hand bag) - and you won't be as strong.  This isn't a good time to be hauling unnecessary luggage to the airport. 

Things to have ready at home:
- Handheld showerhead on your shower.  I have to emphasize this... if your shower does not have a handheld spray, add one before you have this surgery.  There are many times you will need this.  This one works great: Moen Magnetix six-function handheld shower head.
- Great big bottle of ibuprofen, with a spare in the car.  You will eat a lot of these. 
- Prune juice.  Mainly a precaution to avoid pain and risk from constipation at this point in time.
- Always Brand maxi pads.  I bought these with wings but not sure the wings were necessary.  A week later I am about to switch to the super-thin type without wings - even with dilation the need for these has diminished. 
- McKesson brand lubricating jelly (4 ounce tubes, sold by the case).  This is what they start you out with for dilation, and everyone says don't mess with other types at first - just use McKesson at first.  They also sell this stuff in small packets (4 ounces / 118ml is too large for airline carry-on luggage regulations).
- Bed pads for dilation.  McKesson UPHV3036 are good quality.  I found some cheap discount bed pads are much smaller and thinner, not worth the risk.
- Small mirror.  Everything Meltzer/Ley provides in their post-op kit is top quality with one exception: they include a huge mirror I wouldn't want to travel with.  I bought the one in middle of the photo below, easier to fold up into the dilation kit.

Left to right: mirror provided with post-op kit, illuminated folding mirror from Amazon, iPhone 5 for comparison.

:-)

<August 2018 edit: The illuminated folding mirror quit working, was thicker and more complex than necessary. 
A basic compact folding travel mirror is easier to carry and more durable>
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Dena

One additional trick. If you don't want the expense of the bed pads, use old bath towels and fold them at least 4 layers thick. Don't use your good ones at first because some of the discharge could be bloody.
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Sarah_P

Thanks for the information, Kendra! I'm hoping I may be needing to check back here in the next 2 years or so.
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Jayne01

Great to hear you are progressing well post op. Cramming a carrot all the way into your ear gave me a humorous, yet painful visual in my mind. I can only relate to the electrolysis pain, which I found I almost enjoy, because it is for a good cause. Thank you also for the detailed list, I may need to refer to it at some stage.

Is it strange that I became envious of needing sanitary pads? I think it is a little strange, but somehow affirming because it is a very feminine thing to need.

I'm aborted to go for a run in the hotel fitness centre now, need to work off all the desserts I keep eating.

Jayne
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Mariah

I wasn't found of that huge mirror either Kendra and use the one I used to carry in my purse for dilation now. The idea Dena mentioned really is handy Kendra. I have been using towels ever since I ran out of the pads I got from Greenbaum ran out. Hugs
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Kendra

For the first few days of dilation a disposable bed pad was nice, but I can see where a bath towel would work well after the first couple weeks and is much more cost effective. 
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HappyMoni

Kendra,
   I wonder if you experienced any chaffing from the pads. I got really sore on the bigger pads from the rubbing. I found that if I varied the type of pad some, it lessened the concentration of the rub. There  are thong pads that I use now and they are very comfortable.
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Mariah

That was the reason that Dena recommend that idea to me right after SRS. Now I just have a stack of towels I use for dilation although they could be used for everything now. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Kendra on February 03, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
For the first few days of dilation a disposable bed pad was nice, but I can see where a bath towel would work well after the first couple weeks and is much more cost effective.
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SnoBrittany

As usual you are all so inspiring and informative!   I have heard so many good things about Meltzer's practice and this is very validating for that.   Kendra, I have a tremendous amount of admiration for how you approached and handled all of this.  Your advice and documenting all of this will help me tremendously I think.

It sounds like I need to get going on electrolysis at least 8 months prior to GCS, right?
What other preparations are needed?     I have been on HRT 9 months now.

I am also in Seattle and looking to get FFS before GCS but first I am trying to find a new job/team so I can go full time @ work (Microsoft).   

Take care and keep us posted!   
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Kendra

Quote from: HappyMoni on February 03, 2018, 01:23:44 PM
> I wonder if you experienced any chaffing from the pads.

I haven't had that problem but wish I'd purchased fewer of the "heavy flow" pads.  Those probably did help in the initial days (nothing embarrassing has happened) but the large size is uncomfortable in a sensitive area, okay after a few minutes as they re-shape to fit.  The thin/light ones I've ordered should help.  In the meantime I have resorted to cutting the pad-wings off with scissors. 

Quote from: SnoBrittany on February 03, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
> It sounds like I need to get going on electrolysis at least 8 months prior to GCS, right?
What other preparations are needed?     I have been on HRT 9 months now.

Some surgeons don't require hair removal, but the alternative of hair-follicle scraping requires additional minutes under anesthesia while in a position that can cause people to be quite sore during initial recovery.  Electrolysis in that area obviously isn't fun but I kept at it knowing each additional treatment was slightly reducing surgery time and reducing the risk of unwanted hair.

I have heard of success with less time for hair removal, but my recommendation is get rid of hair asap to get ahead of the random growth cycle.  You will want to enjoy future benefits from this surgery with the least risk of complications.  At the time I started electrolysis in that area I had not made the decision to get GCS, it was just a strong possibility. 

As for other preparations, nothing specific other than anything you can do to be in the best health possible.  During the initial days of recovery I was thankful for having good strength, able to slowly lower myself into a chair using just my arms.  Before surgery go on long high-speed walks or run a bit if possible, so those post-surgery walks are more like resuming an activity instead of starting an activity. 
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Kendra

Surgery was three weeks ago.  Saha was going through photos on his phone and found some I hadn't seen until today.

Early morning January 18 right before being rolled into surgery.  I remember Saha taking this photo.


Saha snapped the following two photos right after I woke up from anesthesia. 
I have no memory of this moment but the camera does.


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islandgirl

Look at that smile! Hope all is going well with your recovery.

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Kendra

Zero complications.  Dilation is a part time job but gotta do that the right way.  Recovery is going very well (notice I didn't say swell).
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islandgirl

Yes that first dilation schedule was more like work! Everything worked around it. Now, at ten  months post surgery, the one a days are not far from being done. All is good.

Swell will come!
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Kendra, I am sorry I missed your GCS thread until now. Congratulations:) I am so happy for you. From your pics you look so happy.
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Kendra

Five weeks post-op.  I moved up to the #3 dilator earlier this week, equivalent to green color (Meltzer/Ley provide custom manufactured clear lucite dilators).  Each time moving up in size has been a bit like starting over with holy-smoke pain for a few days, gradually becomes sort of okay.  I've been careful to maintain full depth even when that hurts like hell.  I can be very stubborn when I have a goal.  Many of us are that way out of necessity. 

And then something absolutely wonderful. 

I did something last night I cannot detail here (TOS requirement) but dilated a couple hours after that and... wow.  Something clicked.  Really.  Sensations even better than what I thought were possible are already there on the other side of that dilator.  I know things are just developing and healing.  I know this is just a start, but to experience even a bit of that sensation already rocks my world knowing there is more.  All the hassles, the pain, the inconvenience have completely vanished with what I have confirmed is there.
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Megan.

Tnx for sharing, and very happy for your very 'positive' experience [emoji4]. X

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islandgirl

Quote from: Kendra on February 24, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Five weeks post-op.  I moved up to the #3 dilator earlier this week, equivalent to green color (Meltzer/Ley provide custom manufactured clear lucite dilators).  Each time moving up in size has been a bit like starting over with holy-smoke pain for a few days, gradually becomes sort of okay.  I've been careful to maintain full depth even when that hurts like hell.  I can be very stubborn when I have a goal.  Many of us are that way out of necessity. 

And then something absolutely wonderful. 

I did something last night I cannot detail here (TOS requirement) but dilated a couple hours after that and... wow.  Something clicked.  Really.  Sensations even better than what I thought were possible are already there on the other side of that dilator.  I know things are just developing and healing.  I know this is just a start, but to experience even a bit of that sensation already rocks my world knowing there is more.  All the hassles, the pain, the inconvenience have completely vanished with what I have confirmed is there.


And it only gets better! I am over 10 months in and over the last few days, WOW! Add a touch of the clit and upward pressure of tip of dilator and oh my goodness! 

Have fun! Hugs

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