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A common misconception about what being transgender is about

Started by hiddengirlsheila, November 25, 2017, 08:40:20 PM

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hiddengirlsheila

Yeah everyone is right about what they say, especially Ryuichi and StaciM, as I feel pretty much the same way and i agree.

Julia, what i'm referring to are those transgender or drag queens and go out showing off their feminized bodies and clothing to attract other people. I am not that type of transgender. I want to be treated with respect and be left alone too and just live life to the best that i can as who i am like a normal person. Nothing wrong with going to a gay parade, all i was saying is many people get more bigoted when gays start marching with the gay pride flag....

I have a female mind, emotions, a female soul or spirit as i am very spiritual so i believe spirituality has a part in my design as well.

Maybe i am wrong about being born with a gender identity, but you begin to realize what you are from a young age. This is still not something you willingly choose. I didn't select my gender identity, it just came to me by virtue of how a sickness suddenly strikes and afflicts you without warning. I've known my feelings for womanhood ever since i was young, these feelings you are innately predisposed to just like gays are towards sexual feelings for the same gender when at a certain age or after puberty. I have even had a sexual encounter with my neighbor when i was young, i didn't let him touch me but i touched him. If i let him touch me that would have made me feel gay due to what i still have down there between my legs. I wanted to experience the role a woman would so even sexually i feel like a woman. I have much depression and anxiety over my dysphoria and a few other things i am contending with and trying to overcome. What i need to do is see a therapist and transition. This may give me some relief and make me more of the woman i really am.

I've always enjoyed the female way of life more, everything about the way a girl does things and i have worn women's clothing but i'm not full time wearing women's clothes as i couldn't keep it a secret from my dad who visits me every 3 months unless i hide the clothing where he wouldn't find it which i could do because he doesn't peruse everything in my apartment. Being perceived as a man just because of my physical body and just because some piece of paper says i'm male like on my birth certificate and my name being a male name has always made me angry but i can fix all that and basically start all over as being perceived as the woman i am. It is important that i do so and present myself as female.

I am nervous about it all. Even though i feel blessed, i also feel a little bit ashamed, scared, guilty, and i'm in utter misery and suffering for not being who i truly am yet and not living life as who i am and not being viewed by other people as who i am and my correct gender. I have been pretending and acting like a male out of fear of a bad reaction from my dad but i've also been a fragment of my female self towards him at the same time. I think transitioning would do me a lot of good, make me happier and more comfortable with myself but i am going to probably be under assault by rejection from my father and he has a lot of biases, opinions, and misconceptions about transgenders that are not legitimate but he has an open mind and said he would stop making gay jokes and accept and love me if i was gay or bisexual, which i am bisexual but i haven't told him. Its probably going to be harsh and unpleasant when i do tell him i am transgender because of his love for me as his "son". I need to figure out how i'm going to be ready for that rejection and maybe a therapist can help me out and give me guidance on what steps i should be taking before transitioning.

I am not hiding anything from anyone either, just my dad....but anyways please no drama okay? Keep it civil.
I'm my girly self awaiting the day i look like the girl i am through transitioning physically male-to-female in order to becoming more of what is kept inside me so that i feel complete and experience life truly as who i am so that i don't have any regrets.
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Devlyn

Quote from: hiddengirlsheila on December 06, 2017, 07:19:25 PM
Yeah everyone is right about what they say, especially Ryuichi and StaciM, as I feel pretty much the same way and i agree.

Julia, what i'm referring to are those transgender or drag queens and go out showing off their feminized bodies and clothing to attract other people. I am not that type of transgender. I want to be treated with respect and be left alone too and just live life to the best that i can as who i am like a normal person. Nothing wrong with going to a gay parade, all i was saying is many people get more bigoted when gays start marching with the gay pride flag....

I have a female mind, emotions, a female soul or spirit as i am very spiritual so i believe spirituality has a part in my design as well.

Maybe i am wrong about being born with a gender identity, but you begin to realize what you are from a young age. This is still not something you willingly choose. I didn't select my gender identity, it just came to me by virtue of how a sickness suddenly strikes and afflicts you without warning. I've known my feelings for womanhood ever since i was young, these feelings you are innately predisposed to just like gays are towards sexual feelings for the same gender when at a certain age or after puberty. I have even had a sexual encounter with my neighbor when i was young, i didn't let him touch me but i touched him. If i let him touch me that would have made me feel gay due to what i still have down there between my legs. I wanted to experience the role a woman would so even sexually i feel like a woman. I have much depression and anxiety over my dysphoria and a few other things i am contending with and trying to overcome. What i need to do is see a therapist and transition. This may give me some relief and make me more of the woman i really am.

I've always enjoyed the female way of life more, everything about the way a girl does things and i have worn women's clothing but i'm not full time wearing women's clothes as i couldn't keep it a secret from my dad who visits me every 3 months unless i hide the clothing where he wouldn't find it which i could do because he doesn't peruse everything in my apartment. Being perceived as a man just because of my physical body and just because some piece of paper says i'm male like on my birth certificate and my name being a male name has always made me angry but i can fix all that and basically start all over as being perceived as the woman i am. It is important that i do so and present myself as female.

I am nervous about it all. Even though i feel blessed, i also feel a little bit ashamed, scared, guilty, and i'm in utter misery and suffering for not being who i truly am yet and not living life as who i am and not being viewed by other people as who i am and my correct gender. I have been pretending and acting like a male out of fear of a bad reaction from my dad but i've also been a fragment of my female self towards him at the same time. I think transitioning would do me a lot of good, make me happier and more comfortable with myself but i am going to probably be under assault by rejection from my father and he has a lot of biases, opinions, and misconceptions about transgenders that are not legitimate but he has an open mind and said he would stop making gay jokes and accept and love me if i was gay or bisexual, which i am bisexual but i haven't told him. Its probably going to be harsh and unpleasant when i do tell him i am transgender because of his love for me as his "son". I need to figure out how i'm going to be ready for that rejection and maybe a therapist can help me out and give me guidance on what steps i should be taking before transitioning.

I am not hiding anything from anyone either, just my dad....but anyways please no drama okay? Keep it civil.

And they hated Rosa Parks, too.
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Miss Clara

Quote from: xAmyX on December 06, 2017, 07:13:54 PM
I never said you can't love yourself, and keep your information about being trans to yourself. You immediately assumed that as the sponsored message. I'm specifically talking about people whom hate that they're trans, and wish they were a biological woman. They're usually depressed, borderline suicidal, and are very confused about who they are as a person, and what characteristics about themselves are valuable. They often look at themselves in the mirror with disgust. Unfortunately, they consist of a large percentage of transgender individuals evidently/subsequently evolving the vast amount of suicidal reports we hear about trans people, and how people use that for a reason to deem us mentally ill.

The people you are describing, Amy, are gender incongruent.  They suffer gender dysphoria.  Gender dysphoria is a clinical condition that requires medical treatment.  Treatment in most cases includes gender transition.  Gender transition for severe cases of gender dysphoria includes hormone therapy and any number of types of surgery to align the body with one's internal sexual identity.  Not everyone can obtain the needed treatment to relieve gender dysphoria.  It isn't just a matter of deciding to be happy for many gender incongruent people.  It depends on the severity of the dysphoria they experience.

I was born gender incongruent, not transgender.  I was raised as, and identified as a boy/man for years and years suffering and coping with gender dysphoria until I finally sought treatment and transitioned male to female.  Through the process of gender transition I became a transgender woman, or more specifically a transsexual woman since I underwent hormone replacement therapy and genital reconstruction surgery.  Today, having completed my transition, gender dysphoria mostly gone.  I am as happy to identify as a woman as any woman.  I have no reason to believe that people know that I'm trans unless they are somehow aware of my medical history.  I see no reason to disclose that part of my past to people that I interact with in my daily life.  I don't wish to make them uncomfortable or to have to deal with their reaction to interacting with a transgender person.  It's not that I'm ashamed of being trans, but neither am I proud of being trans any more than I would be proud of having been cured of a cancer.  I'm simply a woman who wishes to be treated like every other woman.  I don't want to use the fact that I'm trans to make some kind of social justice statement to the world, or to correct the injustices that transgender people are subjected to, even though I fully support the effort to insure the civil rights of all transgender people.

I'm not saying that my way of being trans is better or worse than anyone else's way of being trans.  If you want to be openly transgender, that's your choice.  The important thing is to achieve mental peace and a measure of happiness in your life.  That you have found that happiness in your life, Amy, is wonderful.
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AutumnGlory

Quote from: Clara Kay on December 06, 2017, 03:43:59 PM
I think we will continue to have difficulty understanding and communicating what it means to be transgender as long as we refuse to acknowledge the difference between gender identity and sexual identity.  When I say sexual identity, I'm not talking about sexual orientation (attraction), but rather where a person falls on the biological sex spectrum

Gender identity exists within a cultural context.  You are not born with a gender identity, you grow into one beginning as a toddler based on the sex you were assigned at birth.  Your gender identity is mainly determined by how others perceive you with respect to the way you dress, act, your name, and your gender designation on official documents.  I changed my gender identity from man to woman on day 1 of my transition.  A cross-dresser or drag artist will change his gender identity from man to woman and back again in the span a few hours.  Although one's sex usually determines gender identity, there are innumerable factors beyond one's sex that influence it. 

Sexual identity is different.  It is not culturally defined, it is biologically defined based on genetics, reproductive anatomy, secondary sex characteristics, sex hormones, and the sexual differentiation of the brain.  Everyone is born with a sexual identity.  For some people, the various elements of one's sexual identity are ambiguous or conflict.  I was born with a male body but my brain was not sufficiently masculinized.  The gender identity that I developed having been raised as a boy didn't mesh with my female brain.  Nor did my female brain function well within a testosterone dominant body.  In the broadest sense of the word, I was born intersex, not transgender or transsexual which came later.

My struggle has been to bring my gender and sexual identities into alignment.  Today, I'm transgender having changed my gender identity from man to woman, and I'm transsexual having undergone hormone therapy and surgeries to match body and brain.  Today, I can live comfortably with the small amount of gender dysphoria that remains.  Long story short, for all intents and purposes, I'm a woman.  My struggle to become one is not germane to the rest of the world.

Clara, this is the best summing up of gender dysphoria that I have seen.  Thank you :)

I take a slightly different view in the last para.  I don't want a label of 'trans': for me, it is important, vitally, important, that I am woman.  So I take the view that I was trans when I was born because I had a mix of male sexual identity and female gender identity, and that when I aligned those identities, I was no longer trans.  This would take 'trans' to mean transverse, ie, across.

An alternative acceptable for me view would have been that during the process, I was trans, and that after I wasn't.  This would have taken 'trans' to be short for transition.

It's semantics, but semantics in this case turn into labels which turn into expectations, other people's, but my own, too.  We think with language, and labels matter. 
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hiddengirlsheila

I feel devastated and in despair that i haven't even started or attempted to transition or get HRT or surgery yet much less seen a therapist. So would it be more devastating to lose the small handful of people i have that are close to me if i told them i was transgender and proceeded with transitioning? Would it be worth it? I don't know how my dad would react honestly...
I'm my girly self awaiting the day i look like the girl i am through transitioning physically male-to-female in order to becoming more of what is kept inside me so that i feel complete and experience life truly as who i am so that i don't have any regrets.
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Paige

Quote from: Clara Kay on December 07, 2017, 12:38:36 AM
I'm simply a woman who wishes to be treated like every other woman.  I don't want to use the fact that I'm trans to make some kind of social justice statement to the world, or to correct the injustices that transgender people are subjected to, even though I fully support the effort to insure the civil rights of all transgender people.

I'm not saying that my way of being trans is better or worse than anyone else's way of being trans.  If you want to be openly transgender, that's your choice.  The important thing is to achieve mental peace and a measure of happiness in your life.  That you have found that happiness in your life, Amy, is wonderful.

Hi Clara,

I'm glad you found happiness with your transition and you have every right to live your life the way you want.  With all the struggles involved with dealing with being transgender, I can understand how after transition many just want a peaceful, quiet life. 

That's what makes people like Amy so amazing.  After going through this they put themselves out there for us.  Without their social justice activism many in the transgender community would still be hiding and ashamed. 

Take care,
Paige :)


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hiddengirlsheila

I have to say i am just a little bit jealous of some of you folks, you probably have something i will never have, which is transitioning to make life better for yourselves...i'll probably have to wait until my dad dies and passes away because i am so close to him. I don't know how i would defend myself against his biases, ignorant opinions, and misconceptions about being transgender. I will see a therapist though but not all therapist are very helpful. :-\
I'm my girly self awaiting the day i look like the girl i am through transitioning physically male-to-female in order to becoming more of what is kept inside me so that i feel complete and experience life truly as who i am so that i don't have any regrets.
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Miss Clara

Quote from: hiddengirlsheila on December 07, 2017, 03:56:47 AM
I feel devastated and in despair that i haven't even started or attempted to transition or get HRT or surgery yet much less seen a therapist. So would it be more devastating to lose the small handful of people i have that are close to me if i told them i was transgender and proceeded with transitioning? Would it be worth it? I don't know how my dad would react honestly...

That's a question only you can answer, Sheila.  But I have some advice that might help you. 

There's no one way to transition, although WPATH provides a best practices guide.  There's nothing that says that the first step is coming out to your friends and relatives.  Many start by scheduling visits with their gender therapist to talk about it.  A good therapist can be a wonderful source of support, information, and guidance.  She can also help you understand the severity of your GD.  Self discovery is very important.  Maybe gender transition isn't the answer for you.  If it seems likely that it is, she'll probably suggest a trial period of hormone therapy to see how you react to female hormones.  Changing your sex hormone balance is both a diagnostic and a treatment for gender dysphoria.  You don't need your father's approval to take this step, nor do you have to tell him.  You could also join a transgender support group to meet other trans people and learn from them.  Transition is not easy.  Social adjustment, emotional upheaval, huge costs, and physical pain are all aspects of transitioning that make the process very challenging.  And there's no guarantee that you'll have a better life on the other side. 

Many transgender people find effective ways to cope with GD.  I did for years.  I know several transgender people who cross-dress as a means of relieving the stress of GD.  Distraction is another effective way to cope.  Focus on your career, college studies, a hobby, or anything that takes your mind off your gender issues.  Stay busy and involved.  Please don't fall into a pattern of self destructive activity like drugs, alcohol, or engaging in unsafe sex.  If you find you can put off transition, there are still things you can do now to prepare.  Take steps to avoid male scalp hair loss.  Begin the long, slow process of facial hair removal.  Work to find your female voice.  Gradually, take on more and more of a feminine presentation.  Let your hair grow out.  Wear an ear ring or two.  Wear androgynous clothes.  There's nothing that says your transition has to be sudden and shocking to those around you.  In the mean time, save up as much money as you can.  Transition is expensive and you'll be more successful if you have the resources needed.

These are just a few thoughts that you might want to consider.  I hope you can find a path that bring you to a good place.  Hugs.



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Miss Clara

Quote from: Paige on December 07, 2017, 08:28:19 AM
Hi Clara,

I'm glad you found happiness with your transition and you have every right to live your life the way you want.  With all the struggles involved with dealing with being transgender, I can understand how after transition many just want a peaceful, quiet life. 

That's what makes people like Amy so amazing.  After going through this they put themselves out there for us.  Without their social justice activism many in the transgender community would still be hiding and ashamed. 

Take care,
Paige :)

Hi Paige,
I agree with you.  Transgender visibility is important.  Studies show that knowing a transgender person changes a person's attitude about trans people, usually for the better. 

Hundreds of people know that I'm a trans woman, most from my past, but also many new friends.  I'm sure that I've had a positive influence on their perception of trans people.  It's impossible not to be influenced by transgender people.  Unfortunately, not always in a good way. 

I feel no shame in disclosing my medical past, although, like Staci, I consider the trans qualifier as something in the past, not the present.  The trans qualifier seems superfluous now. 

Those of us who are perceived as women in public would have to make an effort to reveal our gender history.  Believe it or not, the opportunities to do that don't come up that often.  I would have to make it a point to reveal the transgender nature of my past, and I'm too old to wear a t-shirt that advertises it.

I say three cheers for Amy and those like her that are on the front lines.  I'm with you, girl.  Not on a daily basis, but I march in pride parades, belong to a transgender organization, volunteer for outreach events, and do my best to debunk the myths and misconceptions about transgender people.  In between, I'm just a woman enjoying the fruits of my long struggle to be my authentic self.
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xAmyX

I didn't tell anyone I was transgender until months into being on Hormone Therapy. I wore male clothes for quite a while until it started feeling "weird" looking at myself wearing such clothes. It was around the time my family started giving me looks when I decided it was time to tell them. I assured them that my intentions were the pursuit of happiness, and that I was not doing it for the wrong reasons. I'm so disconnected by what others think of me by choice. No one has a say on what I do with my life, not even my parents. I go my own path.

If anyone shows concern, I explain to them all of the good things I do in life to relieve suffering, and to protect our environment. I assure them that I'm a good person, and that feminizing my body is the least of anyone's concerns, if it's even a concern at all. Which it's not. If you can show them not only with your words, but with your actions that you are genuine, and good; how can they remain concerned when they see you trying hard to make things right?

One more thing I should mention; when I came out to my family, I showed them my letter of recommendation my therapist wrote for me. That way they can see that not only do I believe it's right, but I'm being backed up by a mental health provider. To argue against that would be very self-inflicting of their image. Thanks everyone for your kind words. Just remember that you are the master of your own. Do what you know is right. Do not live their views of reality. Show that it's good for you by all of the improvements that have taken place since transitioning, and how your life has improved so much. They'll know! And they'll be happy for you. If they are not happy for you, even in spite of all the good that followed, then they are the ones that need help. Not you.

Miss Clara

I've learned so much from Julia Serano.  I've read her "Whipping Girl" twice (first and second editions).  She is a biologist and writer, a trans activist, and, in my opinion, a very intelligent, insightful person.  She uses terminology related to sex and gender that I find coherent and comprehensive.  Here's a quote from her book "Whipping Girl" that describes how I feel about describing myself as a 'transsexual woman' even though I am simply a woman in everyday life.

[Some people] might dismiss much of this language as contributing to a "reverse discourse"—that is, by describing myself as a transsexual and creating trans-specific terms to describe my experiences, I am simply reinforcing the same distinction between transsexuals and cissexuals that has marginalized me in the first place. My response to both of these arguments is the same: I do not believe that transsexuals and cissexuals are inherently different from one another. But, the vastly different ways in which we are perceived and treated by others (based on whether or not we are trans) and the way those differences impact our unique physical and social experiences with both femaleness and maleness, lead many transsexuals to see and understand gender very differently than our cissexual counterparts. And while transsexuals are extremely familiar with cissexual perspectives of gender (as they dominate in our culture), most cissexuals remain largely unfamiliar with trans perspectives. Thus, to ask me to only use words that cissexuals are familiar with in order to describe my gendered experiences is similar to asking a musician to only use words that non-musicians understand when describing music. It can be done, but something crucial would surely be lost in the translation. Just as a musician cannot fully explain their reaction to a particular song without bringing up concepts such as "minor key" or "time signature," there are certain trans-specific words and ideas that will appear throughout this book that are crucial for me to precisely convey my thoughts and experiences regarding gender. In order to have an illuminating and nuanced discussion about my experiences and perspectives as a trans woman, we must begin to think in terms of words and ideas that accurately describe that experience.

How I became a woman, not only in mind but in body as well, is not essential to my identity as a woman.  The qualifier 'transsexual' is not relevant unless I'm discussing that specific aspect of my life.  I could just as well describe myself as a college educated woman.  Both labels tell someone something of my life experience and how I came to be the person I am, but not who I am.  Yes, I'm a trans women, and I'll acknowledge that when the situation demands it.  But, otherwise, to identify and refer to myself as a trans woman is to assign an importance to that aspect of my being it doesn't really deserve.   So what if I'm a transsexual woman?  It's not something people need to know any more than if I was a recovering alcoholic (I'm not).  In the end, my gender identity is the identity that I project and is perceived by the people around me, and if it's a woman, that pretty much makes it real.
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xAmyX

Saying "pretty much" is a lack of surety on your part. I would rephrase that if you want to sound like you believe what you are saying. No matter what, you'll always be trans. There's no getting out of it. Period. Whether you disclose that to people or not, you're trans, and there's nothing you can do to change that. That doesn't lower your quality as a person. Being trans is wonderful, but even if you forgot you were trans, that still wouldn't change that simple fact.

Getting SRS is not the end. It's just one piece to your puzzle.

krobinson103

Quote from: hiddengirlsheila on November 25, 2017, 11:17:17 PM
If the good Lord judges me and throws me into the lake of fire for being born transgender with a female everything except my biological body and wanting to go through life both outwardly and inwardly as the female i am then he is unjust and cruel. The God i love is more understanding and merciful, he would not create people like us only to ultimately send us to hell. The Bible gives me hope in that Jesus helped a gay man in some bible passage and did not condemn him, gays being abominable in the old testament could be talking about homosexual rape like with Sodom and Gomorrah, there are many different interpretations. Ask and you will receive either in heaven God will grant your wishes if we ask him sincerely in prayer but also the old testament and Kaballah mentions reincarnation of people like us to be physically who we are in the next life but right now if we want physical transitioning then we should do so. :)

i feel that in the end it was god who set me on this path. If, as the bible says, god loves everyone JUST THE WAY THEY ARE. Then being the best you can never be a sin. Thats my interpretation.
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Miss Clara

Quote from: xAmyX on December 07, 2017, 04:51:57 PM
Saying "pretty much" is a lack of surety on your part. I would rephrase that if you want to sound like you believe what you are saying. No matter what, you'll always be trans. There's no getting out of it. Period. Whether you disclose that to people or not, you're trans, and there's nothing you can do to change that. That doesn't lower your quality as a person. Being trans is wonderful, but even if you forgot you were trans, that still wouldn't change that simple fact.

Getting SRS is not the end. It's just one piece to your puzzle.

Amy, I didn't say that I wasn't transgender.  But I choose not to focus on my gender transition.  The fact is I was born intersex which means that my sexual identity was a mixture of female and male characteristics.  If I had been correctly assigned female at birth, received medical treatment to adjust my hormones and correct my genitals early in my childhood, I wouldn't even call myself transgender.  I would have been raised as a girl and been as happy as any natal cisgender girl.

Unfortunately, I was mistakenly assigned male at birth and raised as a boy.  I didn't get the medical treatment I needed until much later, so I had to transition to my correct gender as an adult.  That doesn't mean I'm not a woman.  I've always been a woman, but grew up at a time when the medical profession didn't know what to do with intersex children. 

I say "pretty much" because I'm not able to change my chromosomes which I assume are XY, but even that I don't know for sure.  Other than that, I'm as much female as countless other women. 

I just don't see the point of dwelling on the transgender aspect of my past.  It doesn't matter to me.  I'm past the child bearing age, I'm married to a wonderful accepting woman, and everyone here in Arizona knows and treats me as the woman I am.  I'm actually more concerned about how people react to us being in a same-sex couple.

Sure I'm trans, I can't change that.  But, it doesn't define me.   Unfortunately, there are others who want to make it a big deal.  They're the ones who have a problem.  They're the ones who want to exclude me from my rightful place in the world.  They're the ones who want to rob me of my legitimacy as a woman.  They're the ones who would exclude me from their circles, question my sanity, and deprive me of my civil rights. 

I understand the need to change the attitudes of those who would deny us our humanity.  How best to accomplish that is up for debate.  Those of us who want to quietly blend into the binary gender world should not be discounted in that effort.  We are the one's who demonstrate day in and day out that we are men and women like you.  There's no reason to fear us.
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AutumnGlory

Quote from: xAmyX on December 07, 2017, 04:51:57 PM
No matter what, you'll always be trans. There's no getting out of it. Period. Whether you disclose that to people or not, you're trans, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

Why impose your own take on life on others?  If you want to remain labelled by your past, go ahead, but is there any need to require all of us to do the same?

I've done plenty to change my trans position, caught between genders.  I don't like that you write it off as "there's nothing you can do about that".  I've given all, my family, my friends, my career, my money, my dignity and very nearly my life to become who I am now, a woman seen as woman, known as woman. 

So, have a heart, let us get on with our lives.
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Cindy

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If people feel the need to have a tantrum please go elsewhere.

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Miss Clara

From my experience, the biggest misconception about transgender people is that being trans is a mental disorder.  This view is highly stigmatizing.   For years medical professionals have characterized it as such.  The term GID (gender identity disorder) is found in DSM-IV until it was replaced in DSM-5 in 2012 with GD (gender dysphoria).  Correcting this misconception would go a long way toward achieving social acceptance, in my opinion.

This widely accepted view within and without the medical community that ->-bleeped-<- is a psychiatric condition is the main reason for the rift between advocates for transgender people and those advocating for intersex people.  Intersex activists remind us that the etiology (i.e., cause) of intersexuality is biological, not psychological.  They strongly object to the inclusion of intersex people in DSM-5 which classifies intersex people under the category Disorders of Sexual Development (DSD).  They contend that it's unfair to stigmatize an intersex child with a psychiatric diagnosis because he/she was assigned the wrong sex at birth due to ambiguous genitalia and is now suffering gender dysphoria.  Many people who are intersex feel that their internal sense of being male or female is biologically determined in the womb consistent with their chromosomes.  It's their reproductive organs that got messed up, not their psyches. 

Personally, I sympathize with intersex people.  I think that transsexuality, like intersexuality, results from relatively rare but natural variations in the biological processes that determine our sexual development in utero.  Variations in the sexual differentiation of the brain occur due to hormonal influences just as do the variations in the formation of the reproductive organs.  In my opinion, and the opinion of experts like Dr. Milton Diamond, transsexuality is another type of intersex condition which doesn't reveal itself until years after birth as do other forms of intersex, e.g., AIS (androgen insensitivity syndrome), and CAH (congenital adrenal hyperplasia).

The view that transsexuality is a psychiatric condition whereas intersexuality is not, stems from the fact that no physical manifestation of it has been found.  However, a couple of recent studies in which the brains of transsexual men and woman were scanned and compared to the brains of cisgender men and woman clearly show that the sexual differentiation of certain brain structures (size of the BSTc and INAH3) correlate with gender identity. 

Intersex advocates are fighting against the non-consensual surgical normalization of an intersex child's genitals and assigning a gender to the child which may or may not be the gender they internally identify as depending on the how the child's brain developed in the womb.  They want the child to reveal his or her natural gender identity before any corrective surgery is done, and then only with the consent of the child.  Assuming a link between the formation of the genitals and the innate gender identity of the child is risky.  The sexual differentiation of the gonads and the brain occur widely separated in time in utero, and thus are subject to independent influences that affect hormonal concentrations in the womb.  Ironically, trans advocates are fighting for the right to obtain surgical alteration of their bodies that will confirm their internal gender identity. 

The biological processes that determine the sexual development of intersex and transsexual people are fundamentally the same even though the physical and behavioral manifestations vary.  Both require medical intervention to minimize the physical and psychological consequences that arise.  As a type of intersex condition, the cause of transsexuality is biological, not psychological.  The emotional issues that arise in both circumstances have a common source:  being assigned the wrong gender at birth, and having to live as that gender.

Once transsexuality is diagnosed, as opposed to other forms of ->-bleeped-<-, treatment becomes primarily a medical issue.  The earlier a diagnosis is made and treatment begins the greater the likelihood of a successful gender transition and a seamless integration into society.

I find it curious that all the controversy about bathrooms, etc. is focused on transgender people, not intersex people.  Intersex people are estimated to constitute a significant 1.7% of the population, more than the prevalence of transgender people, and yet are almost completely ignored in the media.
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hiddengirlsheila

Quote from: Clara Kay on December 07, 2017, 09:42:06 AM
That's a question only you can answer, Sheila.  But I have some advice that might help you. 

There's no one way to transition, although WPATH provides a best practices guide.  There's nothing that says that the first step is coming out to your friends and relatives.  Many start by scheduling visits with their gender therapist to talk about it.  A good therapist can be a wonderful source of support, information, and guidance.  She can also help you understand the severity of your GD.  Self discovery is very important.  Maybe gender transition isn't the answer for you.  If it seems likely that it is, she'll probably suggest a trial period of hormone therapy to see how you react to female hormones.  Changing your sex hormone balance is both a diagnostic and a treatment for gender dysphoria.  You don't need your father's approval to take this step, nor do you have to tell him.  You could also join a transgender support group to meet other trans people and learn from them.  Transition is not easy.  Social adjustment, emotional upheaval, huge costs, and physical pain are all aspects of transitioning that make the process very challenging.  And there's no guarantee that you'll have a better life on the other side. 

Many transgender people find effective ways to cope with GD.  I did for years.  I know several transgender people who cross-dress as a means of relieving the stress of GD.  Distraction is another effective way to cope.  Focus on your career, college studies, a hobby, or anything that takes your mind off your gender issues.  Stay busy and involved.  Please don't fall into a pattern of self destructive activity like drugs, alcohol, or engaging in unsafe sex.  If you find you can put off transition, there are still things you can do now to prepare.  Take steps to avoid male scalp hair loss.  Begin the long, slow process of facial hair removal.  Work to find your female voice.  Gradually, take on more and more of a feminine presentation.  Let your hair grow out.  Wear an ear ring or two.  Wear androgynous clothes.  There's nothing that says your transition has to be sudden and shocking to those around you.  In the mean time, save up as much money as you can.  Transition is expensive and you'll be more successful if you have the resources needed.

These are just a few thoughts that you might want to consider.  I hope you can find a path that bring you to a good place.  Hugs.

Hey i know i said this to you in a private message since they locked my thread, but i want to share this with other people too. We can continue to talk in PM though.

Thank you for the advice, Clara. Apparently though, i can do none of that right now except see a therapist and have our talk be confidential. My dad visits me every 3 months, that would be impossible to hide doing all that other stuff. I am very close to my dad intimately and he likes to spend time with me so if i were to receive hormone therapy he would know. He seems to find out about everything i do and i have little privacy so its like i'm living with him still even though i live alone now. He is an over the road truck driver and makes a lot of money, he gives me some money, but my minimum wage job and my disability insurance and medicaid help me out more than anything even though i technically don't have to be working and could just leech off disability insurance. I want to be a graphics designer and that will pretty much set in stone most of the transitioning costs once i've accumulated all the money. I think disability and medicaid insurance would help cover some transitioning costs as well. You don't have to pay for it all at once from what i heard so that's good. My hair is already grown out and long, i keep myself shaved, i have a feminine face, at least in my opinion.

Now as much as i want to avoid talking about my dad's biases and misconceptions i guess i could share a few but it might offend some of you...one misconception that he has is your gender is decided by your chromosomes and if you have a penis or a vagina and your body structure and brain chemistry since birth. He boils it down to transgenders are just delusional and just simply have a mental disease, they try to change what cannot be changed such as transitioning as according to him they will still be their assigned birth gender and that they are fighting a hopeless war to be a gender they are not and dont try to change what you were born as. He says there are only two genders: male and female, not a third gender called transgender. He says transgenders merely wish or want to be another gender with imaginary dreams and feelings of that gender they identify themselves as being and so they are just men or women wearing the opposite gender's clothing as if it's some sort of sexual perversion and that we are just playing around. He believes a transgender woman shouldn't use the woman's bathroom even if she or according to him HE still, sits down on the toilet. Very ignorant and biased way of thinking about transgenders isn't it? I hate his views with utmost passion and they disgust me and make me very disappointed. He blatantly ignores what science says pertaining to transgenders too obviously as those views of his as i just said don't line up with today's scientific analysis and empirical methods of observation and medical research behind what makes someone a transgender and most of this is not just a hypothesis, it is based on objective FACTS that led to many conclusions as to what makes us transgender. In his mind transgenders don't really exist. He has an open mind about many things but his views on some things are very much clouded in ignorance and very narrow minded and black and white way of considering things. He even thinks gay people have a mental problem but wait hasn't homosexuality been observed in nature with animals too not just humans?

I go my own path too, but my dad is way too involved in my life for him to not know that i would transition. He said if i really wanted him to not stop by so much and give me more space i could always give him the heads up. I think once i become a graphics designer after i finish my studies and college, find someone to move in with, maybe a roommate, or even a boyfriend or girlfriend then he would leave me more alone and i'll have more options and will get the chance to transition without telling him but he might know i am transgender eventually someday. Part of it is he worries about me being alone all the time due to some other issues i have. I want to transition into a beautiful woman or at least a cute one to fit the woman i am inside. I think my face is already kind of cute and people tell me i am cute, even guys tell me i am cute like my coworker at the convenience store and it makes me giggle and blush like a girl, he even says i blush. I love the compliment. I'm not sure if he is gay though. I'm bisexual myself.

I ought to wear more women's clothes again, try on some make up or lipstick. I can easily get all that at my local wal mart.

It's difficult though having gender dysphoria even though i feel blessed that i'm a woman but it's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows when my dad finds out i am a trans. He needs to really spread the branches a little and look around more about transgenders before he opens his mouth and ridicules us. He will not be around forever, and he will also die much sooner than i will which is sad, i love him dearly, but i also have my own life to live and i will transition, he will not prevent or stop me from transitioning even if he doesn't accept me and that he is still around and alive. He is the only person in my family i worry about getting rejected by as my family is rather small anyway and i'm currently single and not in a relationship with anyone. I'm scared and worried and get depressed a lot due to the tough situation i'm stuck in. I hope maybe a therapist can give me a solution to my problems.

He is going to have to accept me for the woman i am and if he doesnt i'll have to move on, there is no other nice way to put it even though being separated from him or never seeing him again terrifies me but his potential negative react towards me being trans terrifies me as well and i'm scared about many things that will happen because i know my life will drastically change. He has known me as the woman i am even though i have been pretending and acting like a male but not completely so he's always known me as the person i am, however in the guise of a male so this is not something new. I've been trans for a long time since i was a kid and first realized my innate feelings and instincts of being a woman but i have always been scared and worried about telling anyone. All he has to do is accept seeing me with his eyes as the woman i am when i go through transitioning someday which will be hard for him i know that but i will have to explain to him how i have always had these feelings since childhood and knew i was probably transgender. It's not going to be easy. I will probably argue with him and he will hurt me emotionally.

What do you think about my dad's biases and misconceptions?

It's a struggle being in a male body when you are female, it certainly feels odd and weird. I don't like it at all and i'm miserable about it. I know my body isn't fully masculine especially my brain i think and my soul is obviously female in my perception, which is good but I want people to stop getting my gender wrong and that's only because i havent transitioned yet. I didn't mean to say i would never transition like i did earlier, i will someday. It'll be a long journey ahead towards transitioning and living life genuinely as the woman i am.

Hugs,
Sheila

krobinson103: Look at the thread "Jesus loves you unless...", i explain my views in regards to Christianity and being gay or transgender.
I'm my girly self awaiting the day i look like the girl i am through transitioning physically male-to-female in order to becoming more of what is kept inside me so that i feel complete and experience life truly as who i am so that i don't have any regrets.
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Virginia 71

Quote from: hiddengirlsheila on November 25, 2017, 08:48:25 PM
I just simply keep it hidden and a secret from my family that i am trans. It's been difficult to do so acting and pretending like someone you are not which is a male. My dad has suspected me a few times, saying i embraced womanhood on a few occasions. I will one day come out to my family and then hopefully get transitioned physically when i'm not scared or worried anymore.

I am 46 and finally starting HRT. I put this off for a long, long time for a number of reasons but one of the big ones is what you mentioned about fear of how my family will react. My folks are in their 80's and healthy so I am hoping I may be able to keep it from them, I would like to avoid upsetting them at this point in their lives. Having said that, they maybe around another ten years and I can't wait that long. So they are the only people I fear finding out, not for worry of it causing me any trouble, I just love them and want them to enjoy their remaining years as much as they possibly  can.

Now, as for everyone else...I reached a point in the last few months where I just realized that I am the only person who will without a doubt be around when I am near death. (Hopefully that is decades away!) When that point comes I don't want to look back with regret. The people I was trying to keep happy by continuing to live a "male life" may or may not be there. My co-workers won't be. My partner may or may not be. I don't know if my nieces or nephews will be, or my neighbors or the guy on the other side of the parts counter and on and on...so why please them? They won't be lying there looking back at my life and evaluating it, I am the only one who will be doing that and damn-it I don't want to think I wasted my life, so I took the plunge.

It has been a long time coming and it was not an easy decision. I don't expect it is for any of us. There are going to be trials along the way for sure, but in the end I am sure it will have been worth it.

Best wishes to you!


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