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Crossplay-experiences?

Started by AlexandraHamilton, May 17, 2018, 03:09:12 PM

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AlexandraHamilton

Hey, it might be a short question, but have some of you ever tried cosplay as a character that is not identifying as your birth-assigned gender, i.e. crossplay? I am especially interested if you passed, and how you prepared for the cosplay...
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Betty Jean

I think that sounds like a lot of fun, especially as a way to maybe get more comfortable being "out" in public! Cosplay is already a bit of make-believe, so passing isn't going to be as big of a deal, but you can work on your passing skills! :) Lots of fun cosplay wigs out there, too, which look like a blast.
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barbie

I do not try hard to behave as a woman. I just do as myself, regardless of my presented gender.

Some people say my jestures are feminine, and others say my attitude is sometimes very aggressive.

barbie~~
Just do it.
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David1987

I only crossplay. Only positive experiences so far. I'm going to share an article I wrote for a cosplay forum because I think the trans community can get something out of it too.

What cosplay taught me about people's perceptions

I' ve been doing cosplay for about 3 years now, mostly Doctor Who cosplay (usually 7th, 10th and 11th) although I' ve also done some Harry Potter characters. I' m 30 years old, female I guess you could say, although I look more like a 14 year old androgynous boy. Short straight brown hair, sideburns, glasses, brown eyes, caucasian, my height is 158 cm and I my weight is average. Now, keeping that in mind, due to cosplay I realized that we only play a very little part in how people perceive us. I think that people's perception of ourselves is based on these four items:

_ A few elements on how you present yourself
_What the other person knows
_What the other person wants to believe
_What the other person is willing to accept

There's also a fifth element of perception, and that is what YOU are willing to accept.

Let me illustrate each item:

_ A few elements on how you present yourself: when we cosplay (and to some degree in everyday life as well, depending on what we want to portray) we try to be as similar to the character as possible (or at least I do). I don't feel comfortable cosplaying characters that never wore glasses at some point because I don't wear contacts. I don't feel comfortable either playing characters with a different hair colour or a totally different hair length because I don't want to wear a wig (Don't get me wrong, I don't care if other people do it, people can cosplay however they want). Anyway, others seem to not even care about the "details" that we put so much thought into, and they are quick to make conclusions. For example, short hair and glasses immediately means to people "Harry Potter". It doesn't matter how your hair looks like, or if your glasses are not round. I can go out in the street with regular clothes and I get people yelling "Harry!" at me. They're not looking at the rest of my features, clothes, etc, they just see short hair and glasses and they associate it. Even worse, last year I bought a 15 cm Tenth Doctor doll (one with glasses), my own mother confused a picture of the doll with a picture of myself because, again, short brown hair and glasses. Nevermind that he is made of plastic and you can visibly see his articulations. Conclusion, people make up their mind based on only one or two things.

_ What the other person knows: taking into consideration what I just said, based on those few elements people also make assumptions based on what they know. For example, I went to a Superwholock convention as the Seventh Doctor. Some people assumed that I was Mycroft because I had an umbrella. They were Sherlock fans who hadn't even heard of the 7th Doctor. I also went to a Comic Con as the Tenth Doctor. I was playing cards with some people when all of a sudden they start yelling "WOOOOO Loookkk!! another Tenth!!!". That "Other Tenth" was a Castiel cosplayer, who gave them the stink eye. She had a good accurate cosplay but these whovians just associated "long coat" with Tenth.


_What the other person wants to believe: part of the magic of cosplay is to make the characters come to life. It's wonderful when it happens. However, to achieve that we may need to overlook certain things. I was at a specialized Doctor Who convention, again as the 7th Doctor and I was playing some board game with people I had just met. One of them said "You even look like Sylvester McCoy". Ehhh...no... what?? yeah, my cosplay was quite good, but I look absolutely NOTHING like him. Thick eyebrows and straight hair, that's it, nothing else, really... nothing. On another occasion I was at a terrible one-room "convention" with an acquaintance. This was a person I had already met before in regular life, sort of president of a Doctor Who fan group. I was Tenth. After a while of being there, bored waiting with her for a caricature to be finished, she looks at me and says "It's weird, but I really feel like I' m with the Tenth Doctor right now". Wow... thank you. Also, at the same Comic Con listed above, while I was eating some popcorn with those whovian people, this teenage girl (a stranger) approaches me and says "Oh my God, I was really hoping to see you!! Can I hug you??". Sure, why not?

_What the other person is willing to accept: at the same convention as well, this 3 year old boy would say "Look mom, Harry Potter! Harry Potter!" every time that he would see me. Eventually, someone in wizard robes turns around, looks at me from head to toe and tells him "Ehhh, are you sure? I think that's a Doctor". I don't think he was convinced.

So how much of people's perception is actually based on how we actually look like? A tiny fraction. Obtuse characteristics like hair length and colour (not even that much hairstyle), glasses or no glasses. In my case at least apparently looks like height, voice, age and/or biological sex, face and body structure does not seem to be an issue for a lot of people. Some could say it's having "the right attitude", but I don't even think I have that, I' m just some sort of Sheldon, cosplay or no cosplay. Every point listed above led me to believe that mostly how people perceive us is outside of our control (I could let my hair grow and probably nobody will call me Harry Potter... although they may call me Ozzy Osbourne then, who knows). Finally, the last point is "what YOU are willing to accept". You can accept what people say or you can think that they are delusional or that they don't know any better, that they are not taking this and that into consideration.

In short, when you cosplay, cosplay whoever you want, people will think whatever they want anyway. In everyday life, just be yourself, again, people will think whatever they want anyway.
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MichelleF82

I would love, love, love to crossplay. Can't decide where to start. Spider Gwen? Arkham Harley Quinn? Bioshock's Elizabeth? So may others.
Seeing c9 Sneaky in the various forums is quite inspiring and quite possible good for the crossdressing community. I would personally be on cloud nine if i had a gf like Sneaky's (shes a makeup artist and cosplay designer).
Courage is building, just missing the outfits and the convention.
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MichelleF82

Just realized I didnt answer the question, lol. 
Going off of experiences in public crossdressing (lets face it, there is a correlation between cosplaying as a character and crossdressing as your female self, as far as skills go). 
You could probably get away with less than what I'm about to go into, but this woud be my plan for max fun.
1. Plan your outfit well, make sure it fits in all the right places,. Dont be afraid of shapers or corsets to give a more feminine chest-waist-hip ratio(you might not need much, although, it depends on the costume). 
2. Have a buddy, confidence booster/wing person. Dont dress for the whole con, just try to make that one person go "wow". Can't say I've found any active forums for crossplay(haven't looked to hard, ->-bleeped-<-'s is pretty slow), but in the instance you can't get a tag along, you might be able to find some like minded people to meet up with.
3. Makeup and wig, ok, i probably dont need to go in depth here. Just practice some looks that go with your character and find that fine line between you and her.
Some of this feels like common sence, so I'll leave off with the fact that it  is much easier to blend in at a con.  You will NOT be the most bizarre thing these people saw that day :) most people are just enjoying the sights as they nervously await their line to shorten. That, and nerds are probably the most "woke" subset of individuals out there.
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MichelleF82

Quote from: MichelleF82 on August 12, 2018, 04:32:50 PM
  I would personally be on cloud nine if i had a gf like Sneaky's
Ha, just realized I accidentally made a pun.
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candie

I'm planning to go to a con next year dressed up as the Thirteenth Doctor. It's my first cosplay and crossplay. I have the t-shirt and  women's jeans which I'm regularly wearing these days. I bought a wig too. I still need the braces/suspenders and the jacket. I'm waiting for the official jacket which I hope will be released soon.
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Zoe_Kay

Quote from: candie on September 01, 2018, 11:35:40 AM
I'm planning to go to a con next year dressed up as the Thirteenth Doctor. It's my first cosplay and crossplay. I have the t-shirt and  women's jeans which I'm regularly wearing these days. I bought a wig too. I still need the braces/suspenders and the jacket. I'm waiting for the official jacket which I hope will be released soon.

OMG I love this idea!

This year for Halloween I am planning to be Anna from Frozen. :)
"To grow, you must be willing to let your present and future be totally unlike your past. Your history is not your destiny." ~ Alan Cohen
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David1987

Quote from: candie on September 01, 2018, 11:35:40 AM
I'm planning to go to a con next year dressed up as the Thirteenth Doctor. It's my first cosplay and crossplay. I have the t-shirt and  women's jeans which I'm regularly wearing these days. I bought a wig too. I still need the braces/suspenders and the jacket. I'm waiting for the official jacket which I hope will be released soon.

If you are in the US Northwest area let me know. Thirteenth seems to be quite a popular cosplay/crossplay choice lately, probably because is the current Doctor. I've seen a few already in the DW cosplay FB group.People actually say that the cosdaddy jacket is surprisingly not bad. Congrats on your first cosplay.
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