Rates of homosexuality in trans people?

[christinej78]

I've never read any articles on the subject or anything, but I'm trans FTM and I like boys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Makes perfect sense to me as long as the "boys" are of legal age.

I hope your screen name is not an indication of something you wish for.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

[DustKitten]

Makes perfect sense to me as long as the "boys" are of legal age.

I hope your screen name is not an indication of something you wish for.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

His username's a reference to a power used in an anime show, which itself is a reference to a tarot card. It's perfectly harmless. 

[SadieBlake]

There are studies that give decent data on this, sorry no I don't have time to look them up just now.

The best understanding I have is that among early-onset trans people of both genders, they're relatively more likely to be gay identified in their assigned gender, hence straight in their true gender identity. Conversely late-onset trans women at least are more likely to be straight identified in assigned gender hence gay identified wrt their true gender (I honestly don't know if I've seen numbers for late-onset FTM people so I can't speak to that).

I don't think this data is easy to interpret. By definition for most studies done in the last 20 years late-onset people would have grown up in a time when it was far less acceptable to be gay identified and the reverse of course true for early-onset.

It also has been true for all groups that they tend to have the same gender attraction before and after transition, hence a change of orientation - label is likely for most.

I don't have much investment in the nature vs nurture bit. Personally being bi / pansexual but far more comfortable with people of either sex who have femme affect I can only speak to how I feel which happens to be fairly typical for my cohort (late-onset).

[christinej78]

His username's a reference to a power used in an anime show, which itself is a reference to a tarot card. It's perfectly harmless. 

I would hazard a guess that less people know than those that don't. All the folks I know that do anything tarot related I can count on one finger and have a remainder of 2. Perception is 90% of most folks reality. When two people look out the same window, they see different and differing things. In the short time I have been on this space ship I have had occasion to write and or say something in an official capacity. What I said and or wrote was misunderstood because either I did not allow for others perception or I was vague. Most of the time it was peoples perception which tainted their understanding of what I said or wrote.

A good example is when I was in the Navy aboard my last ship. There are career minded people in the service; some think everyone in the service should think like they do. If you make it known you have no intention of reenlisting they will sometimes make your life a bit more difficult. I decided before I got there I would say things that would make the average person think I was considering making a career of the Navy. When the subject came up I would say: "I've been thinking of making a career out of the Navy." Everyone in our command thought I was career oriented until my time had almost run out. I went to the Executive Officer and asked to be transferred to a Navy Receiving Station to await discharge. He said to me; "I thought you were thinking of making a career out of the navy?" I responded back with:" Yes, OUT out." Everyone's perception was 180° out from mine; I wasn't lying, I just let them think what they wanted to think. It worked for me; I was out 39 days early. Politicians do the same thing, they make you think one way when they mean something different.

My first thoughts were that this screen name wasn't the best choice for this site. I figured the person that it belonged to was either a teenager, a very immature adult or someone with problems. Turns out my initial instinct was correct.

I have no control over how this site is operated or the rules governing it. I do know it is here to help members of the  LBGTQWXYZ anything you want to be community. There is nothing funny or uplifting about death. There are members here that have lost their children and have had to bury them. I can't think of anything worse than for that to happen. Children are supposed to bury their parents, not the other way around. I don't think they need to see something so gloomy that may elicit additional remorse.

I have now had my 25 cents worth of commentary on this subject. You and or anyone else is free to criticize and or condemn my thoughts. If I were the owner of the screen name in question, I would come up with something more appropriate and uplifting and then ask a Moderator to change it, which can be done.

Sorry for the long post; some things require me to say things, which I obviously do.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

[Lucca]

Erm... the name's harmless, and I highly doubt anyone here is disturbed just because someone has the word "death" in their username. It's more likely that we'll needlessly scare away a new member by suggesting their username is pedophilic  .

[Chloe]

Sexuality and gender identity in the binary sense that I guess you're referring to is kind of dated

Ain't THAT the truth! There's an old Susan's poll, which is still open for voting, here.

When just about "anything goes" (a wide spectrum of answers) then polls become pretty meaningless.

[pamelatransuk]

From what I have read and heard, in general, most gay men do not like women nor do they want to be women.  They don't dress as women or wear women's clothing.

If what I stated is accurate then it stands to reason (mine) that most trans (MTF) women would be lesbian; I can believe someone being a straight male that transitions may want to be with men; I just don't think the percentage is high, though anything is possible as it is in the cis world.

IChristine

There are studies that give decent data on this, sorry no I don't have time to look them up just now.

The best understanding I have is that among early-onset trans people of both genders, they're relatively more likely to be gay identified in their assigned gender, hence straight in their true gender identity. Conversely late-onset trans women at least are more likely to be straight identified in assigned gender hence gay identified wrt their true gender (I honestly don't know if I've seen numbers for late-onset FTM people so I can't speak to that).

I don't think this data is easy to interpret. By definition for most studies done in the last 20 years late-onset people would have grown up in a time when it was far less acceptable to be gay identified and the reverse of course true for early-onset.

It also has been true for all groups that they tend to have the same gender attraction before and after transition, hence a change of orientation - label is likely for most.

I would also add a couple of points with which with my limited experience I agree although they may appear somewhat contradictory:

1. Christine's point above meaning logically MTF - a completely separate entity to gay men - would be lesbian or asexual. I may be biased as I am asexual with minor lesbian tendencies.

2. Sadie's point and mentioned also by Tonya and Erin that perhaps it is mainly older MTFs who tend to be lesbian or asexual but younger MTFs who tend to be straight or asexual.

Most interesting debate

Have a good weekend everyone

Pamela