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Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 6 or 7 Months

Started by pamelatransuk, August 17, 2018, 07:19:47 AM

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PurplePelican

Quote from: TonyaW on November 03, 2018, 07:32:37 AM
The DVT risk with estradiol is only theoretical. Premarin and synthetic types used in oral contraceptives have shown a risk so it a precaution that really hasn't been proved or disproved. 

Actually, studies on usage have shown that oral admin of estradiol does have an increased clot risk over other delivery methods. Nothing theoretical about it. And that's also far from reason given by most doctors - who will tell you all estradiol causes stroke/DVT.

QuoteThe drug is already on the market and available generically, so no drug company is going to lay out the cash for clinical trials regarding dosing and side effects, especially for a relatively small patient population.  With out the cash from drug company marketing, you are very correct in that it's going to take a while for any improvements to become standard treatments. 

Where did I ask for a clinical trial? Where did I even suggest a trial? Oh, I didn't. A specific clinical trial is not only way to obtain the needed data. And, funnily enough, there's a fairly recent clinical trial on estradiol administration for a non-trans related condition that is just full of useful data. It also includes a comparison to a selection of antiandrogens with the aim being complete gonadal shutdown.

Use an old drug in a "new" way, you'll need a clinical trial before you can claim it's best practice.. The only real delay at this point is the glacial pace at which trans medicine seems to educate itself. I know of a member here who is/was a medical professional. they still believe all sorts of old and odd things about estradiol that are not even based in fact.
This is not medical advice. Always consult your doctor.
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TonyaW



Quote from: PurplePelican on November 03, 2018, 03:04:19 PM
Actually, studies on usage have shown that oral admin of estradiol does have an increased clot risk over other delivery methods. Nothing theoretical about it. And that's also far from reason given by most doctors - who will tell you all estradiol causes stroke/DVT.

Where did I ask for a clinical trial? Where did I even suggest a trial? Oh, I didn't. A specific clinical trial is not only way to obtain the needed data. And, funnily enough, there's a fairly recent clinical trial on estradiol administration for a non-trans related condition that is just full of useful data. It also includes a comparison to a selection of antiandrogens with the aim being complete gonadal shutdown.

Use an old drug in a "new" way, you'll need a clinical trial before you can claim it's best practice.. The only real delay at this point is the glacial pace at which trans medicine seems to educate itself. I know of a member here who is/was a medical professional. they still believe all sorts of old and odd things about estradiol that are not even based in fact.

I didn't mean to imply that you were asking for clinical trials.  Sorry if you read it that way.  I was agreeing with you that change in standard practice is slow while adding that it will be in the absence of such trials and a new (probably much more costly) drug and the marketing money behind it.



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pamelatransuk

Quote from: VickyMI on October 31, 2018, 07:12:43 AM
So you can add me to the table.
4 months

US Based

E 56 T 6

Progynova sublingual pill and Finesteride. No blocker used.

Thank you Vicki. I shall add you to the tables which I shall update end of this week.

Hugs

Pamela


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pamelatransuk

Quote from: Marcieelizabeth on October 31, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
Pamela, is this just for the FIRST 3,,6,9,12 months then?  want to participate but not sure what is being represented...

HUGS, Marcie

Thank you Marcie and Yes it is for the first 3,6,9,12 months and I am updating end of this week for 3,6,9 months and in February I shall complete 12 month table. I shall examine and consider whether it is worthwhile to continue after February or not.

You can either PM your previous results to me or post them on this thread. I calculate the conversion. Either way I am most grateful.

Hugs

Pamela



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pamelatransuk

Quote from: GingerVicki on October 31, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
I want to participate, but my dates are different. I did not receive a hormone test before starting HRT. My tests will represent 2, 5, 8, 11 months. I still believe that they will be usable. I should have something to add in a few weeks. Also, my doctor is following the Callen-Lorde protocols and that will give some information that you may need. I take Spironolactone and the Patch.

Thank you GingerVicki. I look forward to seeing your BT results in due course and I shall add them to the tables.

Hugs

Pamela


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pamelatransuk

Quote from: gracefulhat on November 02, 2018, 07:33:05 PM
Love this thread. I will post my 4 months in early December.

Thank you for your kind words, Gracefulhat. I look forward to seeing your BT results in due course and I shall add them to the tables.

Hugs

Pamela


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pamelatransuk

Quote from: Katie Jade on October 31, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
Docs failed to take Hormone test .... not happy so have to wait another 3 weeks it seems....
Hope its worth it

Luv n Hugz

Katie

:-*   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :angel:

Sorry to hear Katie you were unable to have your bloods drawn in October. I hope you may have them drawn next week and that you receive pleasing results.

I am having my BTs today and shall update the tables at the end of this week. Please PM me your results when you read them online or when you receive notification from GP and I shall happily add yours to the tables then. Thanking you.

Hugs

Pamela  xx


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GingerVicki

With reading this thread I wonder if I will be getting the hormone tests. I did not get one before starting and quite frankly the changes are obvious. I am not sure if I really need one done.
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Katie Jade

results 26/11/18 - 10 months

Serum testosterone level < 0.2 nmol/L [8.3 - 27.8]

Serum oestradiol level 223 pmol/L [95.0 - 223.0]

so dropped from last tests despite increase of dosage

luv n hugz

Katie

:-*      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Post Op Sept 2023...... that took a very long time....
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pamelatransuk

Thank you Katie for your results which I am transferring to the 9/10 Months thread.

Hugs

Pamela


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fgsb

Finally got my 4 month results back!!!

I started at (07/06/2018) T= 346 and E= 23

After 120 days (11/01/2018), I am at T= 37.3 and E= 116.6


Going to be 38 in December
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pamelatransuk

Thank you fgsb for your results which I am transferring to the 9/10 Months thread.

I appreciate your results are for 4 months but I use the latest thread which now is the 9/10 Months thread to update the 3 tables.

Hugs

Pamela


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Veracious Valerie

I have been o HRT for 4 months now.
1st month was just a low dose of E.
2nd month doubled my E.
3rd month started Spiro.
5th month. In a week I go back in to talk about my latest blood results. Here they are...

Day -10(Days before starting any meds) Aug 09th
Testosterone=392 ng/dL
Estradiol=17 pg/mL

Day 30 Sep 19th
Testosterone=201 ng/dL
Estradiol=58 pg/mL

Day 109 Dec 7th
Testosterone=48 ng/dL
Estradiol=145 pg/mL

:)

Quote from: fgsb on November 27, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Finally got my 4 month results back!!!

I started at (07/06/2018) T= 346 and E= 23

After 120 days (11/01/2018), I am at T= 37.3 and E= 116.6


Going to be 38 in December

I am 37. Turn 38 on International women day (March 8th)  :)
We are very similar. That is nice to see.
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pamelatransuk

Thank you Veracious Valerie for your results which I am transferring to the 9/10 Months thread.

I appreciate your results are for 4 months but I use the latest thread which now is the 9/10 Months thread to update the 3 tables.

Hugs

Pamela


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