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Started by Kristijna, September 17, 2018, 02:08:48 AM

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Kristijna

Hello everyone!

I am new to this community so this is my first post, and I wanted to talk about breasts. ;D

I am at about 4 and a half months on HRT and am currently an AA cup. I was completely flat before. They haven't really grown for the last two months, and I'm really worried that this will be pretty much it. I know that might sound weird because I've only been on E for 4 1/2 months but according to statistics from my hospital (VU Amsterdam, Netherlands), overall breast growth in transwomen is very minimal (I'll post the article below).

Anyway, according to the article most breast growth appears in the first 6 months (which I'm almost at), and I've been waiting for a new growth spurt but it's not really coming. Though, I've never stopped feeling at least some growth pains (although very slight and some days completely nothing).
However, I noticed my breasts haven't stopped developing, as I recently hit Tanner stage IV with the mound on mound thing. They haven't grown in size however. When I look at pictures of the tanner stages there's still a lot of difference in size between stage IV and V, and according to my (cis)friends most of their growth appeared in the later phases of puberty.

I really don't wish for a lot when it comes to breasts, I think a B would suit me best but an A would be great as well, because my chest is not really big and I'm pretty skinny anyway. I at least hope for something that is good enough to not go for breast augmentation because I really do not want that, but if I would stay the size I am now that would be just unacceptable. Also women in my family are not very big breasted, my sister and mother both have B's, however from my fathers side women have about a C or D cup.

So I just wanted to ask when did your breasts started to get a major growth spurt, was it early on or later in the process? Is it normal to hit one of the later Tanner stages so early on and what does that mean for the growth in size?


Article:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-lgbt-breasts-hormones/transgender-woman-may-get-small-breasts-with-hormones-idUSKBN1E82UT
Important to note though that the study was conducted after the patients were 1 year on hormones and breasts usually take longer to fully develop. Mostly 2 years, but sometimes even longer, at least that's what I understand from other transwomen.

Anyway thank you for your time to read this bookwork :P
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julia-madrid

Hi Kristijna

It's a very difficult thing to predict breast growth.  If you are young (teen or close to teen) you will probably have better results, and it also depends a lot on your body type:  in my experience on this forum (I'm an old hand, recently rejoined), people who are naturally bulky seem to get more growth.

My advice, is not to worry about what you get.  Cis women, in any event, take a few years for their breasts to grow, and progress can be gradual.  Meantime, use a padded push-up bra, like millions of cis women do, and think about implants some time in the future, as studies show them to be very safe for most people.

Good luck!
Julia
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Rutka71

Hey there, I'm also at VUmc, have been on HRT for over two years now and not much has been growing. I actually was a subject in the study you linked to, but my breast growth has been somewhat disappointing, exactly like the study states. I believe in 2019, breast enlargement will also be covered by Dutch insurance. I would give it at least one or two years to grow themselves, before you decide on an operation.
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Kirsteneklund7

Quote from: Kristijna on September 17, 2018, 02:08:48 AM
Hello everyone!

I am new to this community so this is my first post, and I wanted to talk about breasts. ;D

I am at about 4 and a half months on HRT and am currently an AA cup. I was completely flat before. They haven't really grown for the last two months, and I'm really worried that this will be pretty much it. I know that might sound weird because I've only been on E for 4 1/2 months but according to statistics from my hospital (VU Amsterdam, Netherlands), overall breast growth in transwomen is very minimal (I'll post the article below).

Anyway, according to the article most breast growth appears in the first 6 months (which I'm almost at), and I've been waiting for a new growth spurt but it's not really coming. Though, I've never stopped feeling at least some growth pains (although very slight and some days completely nothing).
However, I noticed my breasts haven't stopped developing, as I recently hit Tanner stage IV with the mound on mound thing. They haven't grown in size however. When I look at pictures of the tanner stages there's still a lot of difference in size between stage IV and V, and according to my (cis)friends most of their growth appeared in the later phases of puberty.

I really don't wish for a lot when it comes to breasts, I think a B would suit me best but an A would be great as well, because my chest is not really big and I'm pretty skinny anyway. I at least hope for something that is good enough to not go for breast augmentation because I really do not want that, but if I would stay the size I am now that would be just unacceptable. Also women in my family are not very big breasted, my sister and mother both have B's, however from my fathers side women have about a C or D cup.

So I just wanted to ask when did your breasts started to get a major growth spurt, was it early on or later in the process? Is it normal to hit one of the later Tanner stages so early on and what does that mean for the growth in size?


Article:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-lgbt-breasts-hormones/transgender-woman-may-get-small-breasts-with-hormones-idUSKBN1E82UT
Important to note though that the study was conducted after the patients were 1 year on hormones and breasts usually take longer to fully develop. Mostly 2 years, but sometimes even longer, at least that's what I understand from other transwomen.

Anyway thank you for your time to read this bookwork [emoji14]
Hi Kristijna,
                    It would be good to see scientific study on the efficacy of progesterone in the mix. Heresay and clickbait offers everything from no effect to miraculous cis woman results.

  Also a good 2 years is needed to guage how much milk gland tissue is ever going to appear.

I personally found 12 months in 2016 turned firm fried eggs into bouncing b-cups.

2017 off HRT for 12 months and lost volume back to A cup. Back on HRT for new year 2018 and back to b-cups.


Great topic though - breasts are fascinating!

Also is your HRT up to full dose now(cis blood levels ?)

Wishing you a buxom future,
                           Kirsten[emoji126]

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LizK

Hi Kristijna


A friend of mine said her HRT Doc said if she made it to a c sup she was a "superstar"...I now understand what he meant.

I am older so things are not supposed to work as well but after about 2.5 years I am a solid b cup...and as the cartoon says  "The, the, the that's all folks"  :D

I don't expect much if any more growth and what I noticed is that after I got to a certain "pointiness" they didn't grow out any further but began to fill out or round out may be better description.

Take care

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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KathyLauren

Hi, Kristijna!

Welcome to Susan's Place.

My breasts started growing within a month, and had done most of their growing by six months.  However, they continue to grow.  The eyes may lie, but the hands dont: the growth is continuing, although slowly.  After 20 months, they are an A cup.

While growth is continuing, I don't expect to make it to a B.  I am not going to seek breast augmentation surgery.  For one thing, I had experienced noticeable growth, which makes me ineligible for funding: I'd have to pay my own way.  And I'd rather have small, real boobs than big fake ones.  No disrespect to those who do choose BA, but it is just not for me.

We had a good friend, a cis woman, who has a flatter chest than me.  So I'm not complaining.

Please feel free to stop by the Introductions forum to tell the members about yourself.  Here is some information that we like to share with new members:

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RobynD

It took about a year and a half for me and much of this was during periods of weight loss. There was initial growth followed by a leveling off and another growth period. I went from a 40B, a small B )as I had some gynecomastia prior to this in my early 20s) to a 38DD. Further weight loss took me back to a 38D but I believe I'm back again to that DD.

To me, this was actually a bit more growth than I wanted, but you don't get to choose these things from hormones alone. I had what seems to be all the size by the time I went on progesterone at about a year and a few months, that I believe gave me rounder breasts and matured my nipples and areolas.


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Michelle_P

After two years of HRT I've gone from a 38AA to a 34A-B, depending on brand.  Age (62-64) and genetics played a big part in this, I suspect.  I am going to try for Mammary feminization surgery, breast augmentation, and see if I can get a 34C to 36C.
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Donica

I wear a 40A bra after 13 months HRT. If I go by the difference between chest and bust measurements, I am a small C cup (just under 4 inches) but I'm not spilling out of my A cup yet. Go figure? I am still going through growth spurts and definitely still having growth pains. If I do want a BA, I was told I would have to go 2 years on HRT because it usually takes at least that long for breast growth to reach maturity.

Hope this helps!
Donica.
Rebirth 06/09/2017. HRT 08/22/2017. RLE 07/14/2018. Name and Gender change 10/19/2018. FFS 09/06/2019. GCS 05/26/2021.
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StacyRenee

Quote from: Donica on September 17, 2018, 12:45:59 PM
I wear a 40A bra after 13 months HRT. If I go by the difference between chest and bust measurements, I am a small C cup (just under 4 inches) but I'm not spilling out of my A cup yet. Go figure? I am still going through growth spurts and definitely still having growth pains. If I do want a BA, I was told I would have to go 2 years on HRT because it usually takes at least that long for breast growth to reach maturity.

Hope this helps!
Donica.
I'm right there with you. At 18 months I'm a full A/small B (40 band). I have 40A, 40B and 40C bras. A's tend to make me sore and I nowhere near fill out the C's. I'm hoping to avoid BA, but I'll wait until 3 years. My mother was a 40D and my sister is a 38DD (as best I can estimate).

As to early growth, I thought that I would be done at about 8 months. I seemed to progress through the Tanner stages about every two months. But at around a year I seemed to go back to Tanner 2 and then 3. At this point I'm done worrying about it. I'll get what I get. But I am trying to get on progesterone and hoping to get an orchiectomy soon. Both of them have anecdotally been linked to additional growth. (With my luck they both will kick in and wind up a 40DD (I'm actually hoping for a full 40C, as I don't want that much attention. I'm a bit of a wallflower).

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Kristijna

I probably shouldn't be worrying so much about it... I can almost fit an A cup bra already (which would be enough for me to not go for BA), my breasts are at this stage really pointy, kind of cone shaped, which I heard is normal in the early stages. I think, if they would round out a bit I would fit a small A, but from what I understand the rounding out happens in the later stages. Then again 4 months is nothing compared to 2 years, so I just have to wait for 20 more months :P I also notice that they haven't stopped developing, just growing, so I guess they're just taking a break.
By the way I forgot to mention but I'm 19.

Anyway that you all for your replies
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Virginia

I developed 34B breasts after 2 years or so on HRT. I have been on estrogen for almost 9 years now with no further changes.
~VA (pronounced Vee- Aye, the abbreviation for the State of Virginia where I live)
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Donica

Keep in mind too that each bra manufacturer is different. A 40A cup in one brand can be a 40C size in another. For example, I bought a 40C bra and they sent me what looks like a 40DDD. I mean this bra would hold two small watermelons. I don't know why there can't be a standard.
Rebirth 06/09/2017. HRT 08/22/2017. RLE 07/14/2018. Name and Gender change 10/19/2018. FFS 09/06/2019. GCS 05/26/2021.
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Kendra

"The great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from..."  :laugh:
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Donica

Quote from: Kendra on September 18, 2018, 09:04:15 AM
"The great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from..."  :laugh:

I know! Right! LOL!
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Brenda80

Hard to predict, mine fluctuates.
Prior GRS pre-op I hit 85kg and I got a C cup. Not relatively tall about 1.65m. Meaning I am overweight so breast kinda went up a notch.
Just before GRS, I lost weight about 30kg and so did my boobies, shrink along and went to a small B. After GRS, weight drop to current 48kg but boobies went up to a normal B. So really hard to say. But I have been on hormones for like 18years so don't really expect and much drastic development anymore.
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Melinda@heart

I've been on low dose HRT since April 30th 2018. I am 5'10" and was 275 when I started. I've lost some weight since. My mom took a pic of me today and the first thing I saw was boobs. I am not "out" to my  family, only a few friends. So, when I saw how prominant my moobs stood out I was like holy crap. I did not realize they were so noticable now. When I look at them without a shirt they look like moobs but they are definitely more noticable now. I think it must be because my belly has shrunk my breasts have not. I'm not sure if they got bigger but it definitely made me question my "plan" on being on hormones stealthily for awhile then coming out later on to family. I really need to make a decision on what I really want to do. I guess it's a case of "mileage may vary".

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Allison S

I'm about a year on hrt and I'd say I'm probably at an A cup right, or I'd like to say, a deflated B cup. Lol I had a bit there before hrt and really when I hit puberty at 12 I noticed breast growth from being overweight. I use push up bras and they're usually padded. It brings the little boobage I have up and closer together. Makes some outfits look better or at least to me.

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ChrissyRyan

For the last hour BOTH of my breasts are tingly and this has been intense.
I have had them "reacting" before, and maybe they do that too while you are sleeping.

I never have had both breasts going like this though.  The feeling is hard to describe.  It feels good.  No, they did not grow overnight!   :)

When I walked down the hall to make some coffee and my nipples were against my moving silky touch robe, the feelings were very nice.  I cannot describe it well, I am sorry.  What was unusual and a first for me was that not only did I have very pleasurable feelings in my breasts, my legs soon after got weaker, and feelings went through my arms, tummy, and thighs.  I started to make coffee but I just lost interest in that and went to the loveseat and curled up on it.  The nice feelings were rolling all through me.

I wanted to go to the store to pickup a new blouse I bought online but I feel like I have melted away.  My energy seems to have been zapped.  I just cannot think of any other way to describe it.  I do not feel bad, just sort of wiped out.  My breasts are still tingly, and I am still lying down.

This is amazing.  I hope this happens again, that is for sure.  This is going to be a memorable day off.

Chrissy

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Madison2002

I cleared 2 months at low dose recently, and a few days ago I developed a small tender lump behind my left nipple. This is normal, right?
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