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Started by Two Spirits, November 30, 2018, 09:47:38 PM

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Two Spirits

If this isn't okay then just delete the post.

I just need to put my feelings into words and maybe see if anyone else understands. I have nobody to talk to where I live and though I have expressed my feelings to a couple of my closest (female) relatives.. while they were supportive or at least not abusive, they also just don't seem to want to talk it out with me or put in the time to actually care beyond a few pleasant words.

I feel very much stuck. I'm 43, genetically male, but not at all happy with that fact. I grew up in a very conservative part of Central Texas .. surrounded by what you might call fundamentalist rednecks .. my step-father and his family included. Don't get me wrong he has been an excellent father, but not someone I ever felt like this was an issue I could speak with him about for fear of intolerance. My mother had her own issues and we were not the talking about our feelings types with each other.

I was aware that I was born wrong (how I felt at the time) very very young. I remember back in elementary school being aware of it, and even having to be corrected on it by teachers. I have a very clear memory of a teacher taking me aside and telling me how I should walk because how I walked wasn't "how boys do it.". My life is actually full of little events like that. Despite being stupidly tall (6' 5") and and I suppose you could say "big boned" and cable strong (skinny but muscular) I was always picked on because I didn't want to fight, I wore my emotions of the surface, and I was shy. I was also as an early teen sexually abused by a friend of my brothers.

All of this lead I think largely to in my adult life being a social outcast, suffering from severe social anxiety, and having destructively low self-esteem. To put it mildly .. I hate myself. I hate my body.. in fact literally everything about it. I am self-destructive.. not just cutting and self-harm.. which of course I do, but also things like I stopped taking care of myself a while ago and as a result got fat, with high blood pressure and so much so now that I don't even know how to correct it if I could. I am so far gone that I can't exercise really.

Because of depression and social anxiety and of course now health problems I can't hold down a job. That means I can't afford insurance which means can't afford therapy and never really have been able to. So I can't talk these things out with anyone in any official capacity. I have brought up the depression and social anxiety with my GP of course but don't feel at all comfortable talking to him about the gender identity issues.

Another issue I have is that despite feeling how I feel inside, I am on the outside a big, ugly male. Like I said, I am fat, I am 6'5", balding, and generally every horrible thing puberty can do to you when you don't want to be male it did to me. My entire body disgusts me. I have had more than a few thoughts of self-mutilation but stopped myself cause it would be lethal. I think in fact that repulsion has a quality of transference because I don't particularly like being around men. In fact somewhat stupidly on a level I feel afraid around them. I bring this point up because the fact that I am an ogre, and that I don't feel safe or comfortable talking to men leaves me looking to women for emotional comfort which with my body ends up making me look like a creep to them. In short, I am pathetic and alone.

With no job, ability to hold one, and a body like a monster any hope of transitioning is pretty much non-existent for me. I will never feel like I belong anywhere and never have the acceptance I seek and the older I get the harder it is becoming to keep wanting to go on. I want to fix the things I hate about myself but it is so hard to do when you are isolated and alone. I need help but I have nowhere to go.

Anyways. There. That's all that. I needed to get it out. Don't feel any need to comment but if you want to know that I do deeply appreciate it. Hell at this point I will just take the attention and knowledge that someone took the few minutes it took to read this and care on some level. So thank you.
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Northern Star Girl

@Two Spirits
Dear Casey
YES indeed, always feel free to vent here on the forums, do know however there are some expletive words that will be subject to moderation if you use them in your post, and also not allowed is bashing and flaming various groups and/or individuals which include bashing political and religious viewpoints.

Go to this LINK and read the  Terms Of Service  rules regarding how you can best utilize and navigate around the forums safely without breaking any of the TOS rules.
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Back to your venting... I have always believed that "venting" or writing out one's frustrations, failures, and disappointments is in effect good personal therapy.... it helps one to ponder the issues and to hopefully formulate positive solutions.

I may re-read your venting later on and make some appropriate comments if that is OK with you.

Thank you for posting
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Two Spirits

Thanks for that. I try to keep my language clean but I am sure I make mistakes. If I said anything specifically violating the ToS please let me know and I will correct immediately.
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Northern Star Girl

@Two Spirits
Oh, one more thing Casey:
When you first joined Susan's Place back on April 02, 2018  ... I had responded to your very first posting with my Official Welcome Message and had included important and informative LINKS that will inform you of the rules and how you can best utilize the Forums...

Since you have only posted a few times since your became a member, please allow me to once again give you a warm WELCOME TO SUSAN'S PLACE.

Please be certain to look over the information there and pay particular attention to the LINKS IN RED which will answer many questions that new members may have.

Please enjoy your time here and get involved as much as you feel comfortable doing.
Best Wishes,
Danielle


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Two Spirits

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on November 30, 2018, 10:21:49 PM
@Two Spirits
Oh, one more thing Casey:
When you first joined Susan's Place back on April 02, 2018  ... I had responded to your very first posting with my Official Welcome Message and had included important and informative LINKS that will inform you of the rules and how you can best utilize the Forums...

Since you have only posted a few times since your became a member, please allow me to once again give you a warm WELCOME TO SUSAN'S PLACE.

Please be certain to look over the information there and pay particular attention to the LINKS IN RED which will answer many questions that new members may have.

Please enjoy your time here and get involved as much as you feel comfortable doing.
Best Wishes,
Danielle


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Yep I read those things back then, and again now. Not sure why you mention it now though? DId I do something wrong?
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. Passing isn't an absolute requirement to become comfortable with yourself. I am 6'2" and require an extra large T shirt for my shoulders. I don't always pass but yet I am comfortable with myself. I am not the only one on this site who feels this way and you will find more as you spend more time on the site.

I have been to Texas and other states like Oklahoma, Missouri, with stopovers in other states and have never had anybody attack me for any reason. Possibly it's because of my height and size but more likely it's because most people are nice.

I know how you feel because when your starting out there is a good deal of fear. Most of the fear is unjustified and as you move through your transition, it will fade. Give it some time and do what you can. You will discover the world is a good deal different than you think.
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dee82

Hi Two Spirits,

Read your story. The details of my circumstances as a transgender person are different from yours. But we still share the burden of being different from most of society and the common experience of being a woman, with the wrong body.

The isolation and feeling of it's impossible and it's all too hard, I can completely relate to. Even with a supportive family it is still not easy.

But you have come to the right place. Vent all you like, read other's stories and I hope you find some comfort here.

~Dee.
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Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Two Spirits on November 30, 2018, 10:35:16 PM
Yep I read those things back then, and again now. Not sure why you mention it now though? DId I do something wrong?

@Two Spirits
Dear Casey:
You did NOTHING WRONG ....   I just wanted to make it convenient for you to see the LINKS again, ...
.... again, you did nothing wrong...   

Venting is GOOD.


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LizK

Quote from: Two Spirits on November 30, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
IAnother issue I have is that despite feeling how I feel inside, I am on the outside a big, ugly male. Like I said, I am fat, I am 6'5", balding, and generally every horrible thing puberty can do to you when you don't want to be male it did to me. My entire body disgusts me. I have had more than a few thoughts of self-mutilation but stopped myself cause it would be lethal. I think in fact that repulsion has a quality of transference because I don't particularly like being around men. In fact somewhat stupidly on a level I feel afraid around them. I bring this point up because the fact that I am an ogre, and that I don't feel safe or comfortable talking to men leaves me looking to women for emotional comfort which with my body ends up making me look like a creep to them. In short, I am pathetic and alone.

With no job, ability to hold one, and a body like a monster any hope of transitioning is pretty much non-existent for me. I will never feel like I belong anywhere and never have the acceptance I seek and the older I get the harder it is becoming to keep wanting to go on. I want to fix the things I hate about myself but it is so hard to do when you are isolated and alone. I need help but I have nowhere to go.



Hi Two Spitits

Welcome to Susans.....Its horrible feeling as you describe and being so sure that no matter what happens you are stuck. Passing is over rated  ;D I think what is as important as yopu want to make it ...There are plenty of tall women out there...You can lose weight....You may also find that without the stress of living as someone you don't think you are...you may not actually be that Ogre you say you feel like.

My point is simple, we never know what's possible until we try...You have to decide what is important for you. Not everyone here will transition and many will not have surgery and many will and many will live full time and many won't...no one way is any better than another. Some of the girls here are able to cross dress and be happy with that. They never go out except for meetings  and are happy with HRT and surgeries

You mentioned being a sexual abuse survivor and I hope you were able to get help with that.

Transition is one of thoise try before you buy kinda deals...you can always experiment in the privacy of your own home before you comit to any kind of transition.

Take care

Liz

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Nikkimn

I think you're giving up before even getting started. Balding can be fixed or reversed with hormones and hair transplants. Hormones can change your skin and appearance. You can lose weight, find plus size woman's clothing. It can be done and you can find a piece of happiness. It doesn't really matter if you pass all the time if you look respectable and work with what you got people will respect that. I don't always pass but I look "good enough" that I fit in and people know what my identity is.


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Two Spirits

No, I hear what ya'll are saying about passing. For me its more about trying to feel comfortable in my own skin though and I am a far far ways away from that. Honestly if I had the money to try to go through with HRT and such then that would even motivate me to work on the rest just in the hopes that I could see a glimmer of feeling like I do inside but I can't even afford a therapist right now and I literally, and I am talking medically, can't work. Plus I live in a state where getting disability for mental illness (Not gender dysphoria.. the social anxiety and accompanying agoraphobia) is next to impossible.
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CarlyMcx

I can identify with so much of what you have said.  My dad was the son of a fundamentalist preacher from Arkansas and my childhood was horrible.  It took me four tries at different times in my life before I was able to actually begin transition, and the first two took place before the internet even existed.  I spent many, many years hiding deep inside myself and living on hope—but I never gave up.

My advice is as follows:  Do one small thing.  You already did by joining this forum and contacting us. I applaud you for that one little thing.  Now do another.  Find the nearest LGBT center.  Talk to someone on the phone.  Find a way to get there, even just for a day visit.  Go online and buy one small item, a bookmark or a bracelet or a necklace or a keychain.

But do some little, self affirming thing.  The most important thing to understand about transitioning is that you have to walk down the yellow brick road yourself.  You will encounter friends along the way who may help, but no one will carry you or give you a ride.  The journey will consist of a thousand small steps and you have to take each one.  Just know that at the end of the road you will find yourself.  Bravo for coming here and taking the first one, and watch out for the flying monkeys.

Hugs, Carly
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tgirlamg

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Welcome Aboard Two Spirits!... It is wonderful to meet you! 🙋‍♀️

I am so sorry that you are feeling a bit overwhelmed!... We all come to or have been at a similar place as we try to sort through all the truths we have known were inside us since we were very young.. take a deep breath and take heart because all challenges can be met and all obstacles can be navigated 🌺

The fact you are here posting says a few things... it means you are searching for answers.. the first step to finding them!!!....this is a great place to do just that!!!... It also tells me that you have in your heart... a bit of hope... and that will take you far in all this! 🌺

Some thoughts on finding hope here...

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,233543.0.html

We all come to this worrying about "passing" and believe me when I say that happiness can be found without passing 100% of the time to 100% of the people... in the end... that is not what this is all about... it is about finally connecting your true self with others and the world around you... We often find we come to a place in life where transition... even if we don't see ourselves as totally passable, is far more palatable then hiding for one more minute... Don't let worries about height become a point of needless focus... there are many tall girls here who are happy!... When I first was venturing out into public en femme years ago, I was taught to be fearless by a friend who was about 7 foot in heels... which she of course wore!!! . Money?... I know girls here and elsewhere, living as they choose with next to no income... See how you will make life happen... not the reasons you can't...🌺

Perspective is hugely important in all of this... if you see your age as a factor, don't let it be one... I did not start on hormones until age 52, five years ago... weight? Weight can be lost when you have a life that needs living!!!... the hormones took about 35 pounds of upper body muscle off me... positive changes can be made but they need to come from someplace inside you... I second the vote for finding what is usually a milestone for us all... a therapist, support group etc.  In the end... our lives are what we make them to be... embrace the fact that yours can be made to be a much better reflection of who you are!... I want that for you... 🌺

My husband and I usually get down to Texas (we live in CA) a couple times a year... mostly around the hill country or Port A and Love it...

Please make use of all the experience here available to you... All of us have many common threads! And... Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can ever be of help as you explore the road ahead... It is one best traveled with friends! 😀🌺

Onward we go!!!

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌻
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻
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Allison S

Of course it's okay. Actually it's encouraged! I know I made some really embarrassing posts... Small steps, "mistakes" (I make a lot), moments of joy and sadness along the way are going to happen. It's a start and everyday is a day to embrace yourself and build character you need for yourself...

You mentioned you see a GP and that they know you have social anxiety and depression? Are you able to get a referral to see a therapist and have it covered the same way your GP visits are? It could be a start to ask, maybe call or email your GP.
Also, I'm not sure where you live, but in the US there's medicaid which you can call your state medicaid office and complete an application over the phone... I think you can even fill out an application online.

When your life is made by choices you made and changes you've lived, passing seems so much less important. Still, you never know what you're capable of...

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Artistic_Gene

I did most of my growing up in Central Texas too—always vent about that lol.

Anyway I'm so sorry you're going through this and where you're going through it too. I moved to Denver and that thankfully made it so much easier to accept myself. Down south, it can be scary. I hope you find either a way to make this happen for you or a way to ensure it can happen soon
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