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You now find many of that your friends and family think little of your concerns

Started by Peggiann, February 20, 2006, 07:23:22 AM

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Peggiann

You now find many of your friends and family think little of your concerns and the rest have abandoned their associations with you and your family.
Have any Sos"s delt with this area?

Smiles,
Peggiann
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angelsgirl

I can only help a little on this one.  I haven't told my family yet.  They still think I've been dating a guy named Josh for the past 4 months.  I think that because we have the same circle of friends it hasn't been much of a problem for either of us. Our circle of friends is also proud to call themselves a pack of weirdos, so there's your sign! One of my friends is acting kind of weird about it though. It seemed at first that she was really supportive first of Jocelyn being transsexual and then of me coming out being bi.  But then she started trying way too hard to make it look like she didn't have a problem with it.  For instance, she dedicated "Man, I Feel Like a Woman" at karaoke to all her female friends (she named them all and included Jocelyn)  which was fine and a nice gesture to both us.  I thought "That's nice she did that!" But then she made a really big deal about it when she was talking to me "I didn't offend you and Jocelyn with that did I?" and then was asking me why I was avoiding her boyfriend (I wasn't avoiding anybody) and went on to explain that he knows about the whole situation and he's cool with it and doesn't think any less of me because of it but he's not going to be able to tell me that unless I stop ignoring him.  I've been wondering where the heck all that came from since then. We havent' been hanging out or calling each other on the phone (I'm as much to blame for that, but I'm really leery about talking to her now). When we see each other at karaoke every week it's all small talk and politeness, which kinda blows because she was one of my best friends. I've decided to let the dust settle for the time being.  If she can stop being psycho about my choice in a partner we can be friends again, but I'm not sure if that's really a good way to go about it.

~angelsgirl
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Peggiann

I can only help a little on this one.  I haven't told my family yet.  Nor has Leah shared this with any family or friends. Instead we have reached out in to the Trans Community and started forming new friendships over the past almost 6 years. I think that because we have the same circle of friends it hasn't been much of a problem for either of us. Our circle of friends is also proud to call themselves a pack of weirdos, so there's your sign! We could probably count our mutual freinds/couples on one hand that we spend much time with. Don't get me wrong we know a ton of people and have passing conversations when or paths cross from day to day or week to week. We are just so intuned with each other and share with each other so much of us and ourselves that we don't interminggle with other couples often. One of my friends is acting kind of weird about it though. It seemed at first that she was really supportive first of Jocelyn being transsexual and then of me coming out being bi.  But then she started trying way too hard to make it look like she didn't have a problem with it.   Maybe you should invite her for just you's a coke chat. Share with her that you can understand how this is very different for your relationship at first but it's ok to just relax and continue on as normal as before the information was shared on sexual orientation. It doesn't change how you/I/we inter act. She doesn't have to draw attention to her actions for you to see that "That's nice she did that!" she is ok with it all. Maybe it was your not making a point to say thank you for her acceptance and appreciation of that fact not verbalized. So she was tryng to prove her loyalty more openly. For instance, she dedicated "Man, I Feel Like a Woman" at karaoke to all her female friends (she named them all and included Jocelyn)  which was fine and a nice gesture to both us.  I thought "That's nice she did that!" thought Being the key word not privately quietly for more enfeses say directly to her But then she made a really big deal about it when she was talking to me "I didn't offend you and Jocelyn with that did I?" Maybe needs to talk about how to openly with out offending. Jocelyn had kept it private befor and so she could be unsure how openly she should include her when banding together her female friends. and then was asking me why I was avoiding her boyfriend (I wasn't avoiding anybody) and went on to explain that he knows about the whole situation and he's cool with it and doesn't think any less of me because of it but he's not going to be able to tell me that unless I stop ignoring him. I've been wondering where the heck all that came from since then. Maybe just her way of change the subject to small talk and making you have to defend something to get herself out of the hot seat if your facial expressions and tone in voice, told her you didn't approve.We havent' been hanging out or calling each other on the phone (I'm as much to blame for that, but I'm really leery about talking to her now). When we see each other at karaoke every week it's all small talk and politeness, which kinda blows because she was one of my best friends. I've decided to let the dust settle for the time being.  If she can stop being psycho about my choice in a partner we can be friends again, but I'm not sure if that's really a good way to go about it. Best friends are hard to come by. Communication and not distance to allow issue to fester is more the key I would think. I mean I value everyone I hold dear and want them not to fret or worry over issues. Best friends should be able to share and grown with each other. Voice how you feel starting with something like I really care that our friendship continues to flurish. I was reading this...blah blah blah.. and now Was I off base? Could you help me have a more clear picture? Then go from there on. I just don't sleep well if things are left to simmer very long.


just my take on things,

Smile,
Peggiann
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melissa_girl

My thoughts on how the friend acted are this:  I think she felt a little uncomfortable and really didn't know how to act.  I think she really means well, but doesn't want to do anything to hurt anybody's feelings.  Some people are uncomfortable around handicapped people (such as somebody in a wheelchair) and don't realize they just want to be treated like normal people and not given "special treatment".  Perhaps, you need to make it clear to your friend that Jocelyn wants to be treated like any other woman.  If the friend wants to avoid hurting Jocelyn, go to https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,455.0.html to find some tips.

Melissa
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Alison

our families exhibit the full range of accepting'ness - to all out hatred...

My siblings accepted Jaycie and our choice pretty easily... they're younger then I am (21 and 22)  My sister introduced Jaycie as "Aunt Jaycie" to her 3 year old son, Justyn (we don't see them often, Justyn 'met' Jaycie when he was a baby, and Jaycie was still presenting male, but he doesn't remember obviously)  So It was really refreshing to have a family member who ONLY knows her as Jaycie, and doesn't think twice about it...

Jaycie's family, some accept it in that they love her and will do anything for her but they absolutely 100% don't understand, Her mom still hopes she'll grow out of it, and has even asked me to convince her to move on a few times (I vehemently refused)  Her Uncle was flat out nasty... he doesn't want the "devils work" near his wife and children....

what sucks is our most accepting family members are 1500 miles away  :-\

Our friends are quite a different story... Most of our friends have accepted this compleatly.... they had questions of course but they wern't judgemental for the most part.... :)
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Gill

Good question....

Reactions are a mixed bag ranging from; there isn't a problem, to outright avoidance.  It's the outright avoidance that bugs the crap out of me.  It's like you've fallen off the face of the earth and it really hurts big time.  All I can hope for is that time will heal the wounds.  More than likely though they will have to get to 50/60 before they realize, "life's too damn short to hold a grudge for that long".  I am beginning to loose patience with them though.

It's the "if they're going, then I'm not" scenarios that just aren't worth it.

Anyways, my two cents worth.

Gill
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