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Sara's Wild Ride (Part II)

Started by TXSara, January 04, 2024, 10:55:49 AM

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Oldandcreaky

QuoteI worry sometimes that we, ourselves, have an echo chamber here.  I would recommend to all people that we spend time with those who disagree with us.  I don't generally change my mind about things when I hear other views, but I'm at least more inclined to "humanize" those differing views.

Correct, Sara. I don't know if you know this, but two of the differences between conservative and liberal brains is that conservatives have larger amygdalas, which make them more prone to fear and disgust, and liberals have larger cingulate anterior cortices, which enable the simultaneous consideration of opposing ideas.* I read you as having a BIG cingulate anterior cortex based upon  your quote above.

*This isn't always a good thing. It can mentally paralyze a person, for they keep looking over to the opposing option and considering its validity. It doesn't make one decisive and certain.

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TXSara

Quote from: Oldandcreaky on January 20, 2024, 10:34:55 AM*This isn't always a good thing. It can mentally paralyze a person, for they keep looking over to the opposing option and considering its validity. It doesn't make one decisive and certain.

Yes, this is definitely a danger, and it is one of the main drawbacks to being an enneagram type 9. 

Luckily for me, I don't generally have much trouble making decisions.  I attribute this to my engineering brain.  I'll try to gather information only to the level that the decision is deemed important.  If I can't tell which way to go after gathering "enough" info, I just pick a direction and avoid looking back.

I'm pretty good at channeling my inner Yogi Berra — "When you come to the fork in the road, take it!"

~Sara
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Oldandcreaky

Quote from: TXSara on January 20, 2024, 11:22:21 AMIf I can't tell which way to go after gathering "enough" info, I just pick a direction and avoid looking back.

I'm pretty good at channeling my inner Yogi Berra — "When you come to the fork in the road, take it!"

Quoting Yogi makes you his Boo-Boo, and we all hope that when we're forced to guess, it won't be a boo-boo. I think a lot of our decisions are like weather forecasting. You can feed a computer a billion bits of data to forecast what the weather will be tomorrow and it can still get it wrong. We too can fill ourselves with all that appears germane and give it our best guess and still err. I recently worked with RTX and when I did, I thought of you.
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EllenW

Quote from: Oldandcreaky on January 20, 2024, 10:34:55 AMbut two of the differences between conservative and liberal brains is that conservatives have larger amygdalas, which make them more prone to fear and disgust, and liberals have larger cingulate anterior cortices, which enable the simultaneous consideration of opposing ideas

Very interesting O&C. I have never seen articles on this. I would like to know more about this. Do you have any articals you could point me to?

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Oldandcreaky

Perhaps unexpectedly, Fox News summarized the research nicely in an article titled, "Is your Brain Liberal or Conservative?"
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ChrissyRyan

I simply try to be a good thinker, listener, and kind.  Labels are not necessary for me to try to achieve or try to live up to.

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Oldandcreaky

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on January 20, 2024, 01:54:04 PMI simply try to be a good thinker, listener, and kind.  Labels are not necessary for me to try to achieve or try to live up to.

Chrissy

Success! You are a good thinker, listener, and kind.
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Courtney G

At the risk of kicking up some dust that could make some choke, I'll offer this (off the top of my head, so I hope I make sense):

The idea of a "liberal" or "conservative" thinker is very muddied by the realities of people's choices and opinions, which themselves are muddied by "nurture"; the ecosystems they grew up and/or exist in can create conflicts. Conversely, someone may have been nurtured into a certain way of thinking, but have a nature beneath all of that, which betrays them. I feel that could be the case with the person who did the very cruel thing to Sara.

I was discussing my gender stuff with sister #1 this afternoon and our thoughts shifted to the other sister (#2), who has been exposed to a ton of information that has informed her thoughts and feelings about current events in ways that are 180 degrees the opposite of those her 3 siblings share. While this is pretty upsetting to the three of us, I had to remind sister #1 that sister #2's lifelong learning disability combined with 20 years in a particular ideological ecosystem to firmly shape her perspectives. Given her mental capacity, it would take many many months of intensive deprogramming to (possibly) bring her around to what we see as the truth.

The conversation shifted to an issue sister #1 is having with a construction project on her home and the fact that the builder is quoting a ridiculous price while employing workers who are likely undocumented. I'm not going to expand on this, but it eventually led to the fact that many of our very Christian friends and family are not understanding the U.S. immigration crisis the way we do, and certainly aren't responding to it in the way that Jesus would. How could this be? It doesn't make sense.

But the fact is that a so-called "Christian" (conservative) doesn't necessarily do Christlike things and a "liberal" doesn't necessarily see all sides of a situation and weigh them properly.

I hate to pull the "both sides" card, but basically, we all need to try to be open to evolution and progress in our thinking. Unfortunately, this gets more difficult as we age.



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Sarah B

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Quote from: TXSara on January 20, 2024, 08:54:54 AMY'all aren't going to let this one go, are you? 😉  Truthfully, I was over it after just a couple days.  It's funny how some people can really hurt me and others, well, not so much.

To clear up some misunderstandings, though, I never told anyone in that group that I was trans.  This woman figured it out on her own, presumably because of my voice.  She was one of only a handful of people who heard me speak because she was standing next to the organizer when I introduced myself to her.  The only others were in my immediate vicinity at the table.

I believe that nobody said anything because most didn't understand the significance of the comment.  If you didn't know I was trans (and I imagine 75% of the people didn't), the statement didn't make sense.  The only person I saw that was visibly affected by the statement was the woman to my right who had likely figured out my transgender status as well.

I agree with the comments about people with extremely polarized political views.  I say this all the time, and I'll repeat it here... if there is an issue that people on each side feel very strongly about and believe the other side is either "evil" or "stupid", chances are pretty good that the issue is more complicated and nuanced than either side wants to believe.  Living in an echo chamber does NOBODY any good.

I worry sometimes that we, ourselves, have an echo chamber here.  I would recommend to all people that we spend time with those who disagree with us.  I don't generally change my mind about things when I hear other views, but I'm at least more inclined to "humanize" those differing views.

~Sara

It's hard not to let this go, but I will, but I will not forget it. This incident not only hurt you deeply, it also hurt me as if I was being punched in the face. Even other members  of Susan's, I believe felt the pain.  I can feel the ramifications of the incident and hopefully it will give everyone a chance to pause and think about it.

I'm happy that you are analyzing the situation and I hope you use that to move forward in your life. Please don't stop your 'journey'.  People like her are not worth the time and energy, to waste upon.

Your patience and composure in that situation was exemplary.

I hope you have a wonderful day and I will go and get myself another cup of coffee and enjoy the morning sunrise in Australia.

Best wishes and hugs
Sarah B
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TXSara

A pretty good Sunday --

A big group of us did a brunch for my friend Lu's 43rd birthday this morning.  It was a lot of fun laughing and catching up with some folks I haven't talked to in a while, but I ate WAAY too much.  Of course, Lizzie orders her "mimosas" without any orange juice... too funny.  You can dress her up folks, but you can't take her out LOL.

Everyone was interested in how I'm holding up with less than a month now to the big surgery.  I think a few of them were surprised that I'm not thinking on it that much.  I had a meltdown a couple months ago, but I haven't really had any concerns since.  We'll see how things go as we get closer.  When I had my FFS, I don't think the reality of having my face ripped off fully set in until the day before.  I sometimes wonder if I'm really brave or really crazy.  ;)

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In other news, I'm really pumped up because Sleater-Kinney just dropped a new album.  It's pretty good -- y'all should check them out if you're into the riot grrrl (feminist punk) bands from the 90's.  I'm a big fan.

At the same time, I'm really bummed because they'll be in town on March 5th.  There's no way in the world that I'll be able to make it to the concert given that it is only 14 days after my surgery.  Why couldn't they have scheduled it a month later?  I haven't seen them in over 20 years, and they don't tour very often.  You never know when bands like this are going to hang it up.  Crud.

~Sara
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Jenn104

Quote from: TXSara on January 21, 2024, 02:33:33 PMEveryone was interested in how I'm holding up with less than a month now to the big surgery.  I think a few of them were surprised that I'm not thinking on it that much.  I had a meltdown a couple months ago, but I haven't really had any concerns since.  We'll see how things go as we get closer.  When I had my FFS, I don't think the reality of having my face ripped off fully set in until the day before.  I sometimes wonder if I'm really brave or really crazy.  ;)


Hey Sara-- let me say it first. Good luck getting to surgery and good luck with it. You've got a crowd of people here that'd all argue for the right to say "I am your biggest fan". Myself included.

Funny thing hit me while reading the quoted paragraph. How many times to do I want to project what I think a friend should be thinking onto them, instead of slowing down to listen what they are actually thinking? Something for me to work on.

Personally.. I am voting brave with a little crazy, btw.


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TXSara

Quote from: Jenn104 on January 21, 2024, 03:06:36 PMYou've got a crowd of people here that'd all argue for the right to say "I am your biggest fan". Myself included.

Thanks, Jenn.  You're very sweet to say that!

Quote from: Jenn104 on January 21, 2024, 03:06:36 PMPersonally.. I am voting brave with a little crazy, btw.

That's about how I see it, too... a cup of bravery with a pinch of crazy for extra seasoning! 😉

~Sara
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Sarah B

How far away is surgery? Please. I need to order in the popcorn.

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Gina P

You have been waiting your whole life for this. I can only imagine the excitement building as the date grows closer.  Looking forward to seeing you again then.
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TXSara

Quote from: Sarah B on January 22, 2024, 01:41:46 AMHow far away is surgery? Please. I need to order in the popcorn.

In exactly four weeks, I'll be on a plane to Newark, NJ.  My surgery is the next day, Tuesday February 20th.

The hospital is in NJ, but I'll be recovering in New Hope PA, where Dr. McGinn's office is.  I come back to TX on March 1st.

~Sara
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Jessica_Rose

Quote from: TXSara on January 22, 2024, 08:23:38 AMIn exactly four weeks, I'll be on a plane to Newark, NJ.  My surgery is the next day, Tuesday February 20th.

The hospital is in NJ, but I'll be recovering in New Hope PA, where Dr. McGinn's office is.  I come back to TX on March 1st.

~Sara

From everything I have read, Dr. McGinn is one of the best. I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results. Don't dwell on the individual steps the surgeon will be performing, just think of it as an advanced version of origami.

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I'm so happy for you. I'm at least two years away from GCS, since I don't want to start bottom electrolysis until my facial electrolysis is finished.

You're nearing the finish line.

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TXSara

OK, so going back to the original plan for this blog...

I have learned quite a bit from books over the past couple weeks (I'm now on book #3 — "Insecure In Love" by Leslie Becker-Phelps).  I'm working through different exercises, and I'm trying to really understand how I went from extremely secure to extremely anxious.

I believe that the key is in examining how my marriage ended. 

When my ex-wife and I met, she had some attachment issues.  She had been choosing "bad" partners who were emotionally unavailable, and she had really bad abandonment issues that she saw a therapist for.  I was very secure and became a "safe base" for her.  Throughout the years of our marriage, I was her rock.  I was happy in that role as well.

When I came to the realization that I was transgender, I told her immediately.  We both wanted to work through it, but I was no longer a stabilizing force in the relationship.  During the time that I was her security blanket, she was fine.  Once she lost that, things changed.  She began pushing me away.

Because I cared deeply for her and for the marriage, I began trying harder.  This would only push her farther away.  I took it personally.  It began to affect my self-esteem.  If the person who has looked up to and depended on me for the past 18 years can't love me, then who will?  I think this is where my "nobody will ever want me" self-loathing started.

Once I had that in my head, confirmation bias would help me find and ruminate on every bit of evidence that supported it.  Believe me, that evidence isn't hard to find.

The downward trajectory of my self esteem coupled with the fact that my dating pool is now the size of a shotglass became the perfect storm for me to become anxiously attached.

Note:  I didn't realize this at the time, but my ex-wife has a "fearful-avoidant" attachment style.  My transition triggered her to feel like she was about to be abandoned, and she acted out by withdrawing and pulling away.  I need to reframe all of the events that led up to the divorce with this knowledge in hand.  I think it will help me to realize that I'm not "unlovable".  I may end up replacing my lack of self esteem with extreme guilt, but at least it will be a more accurate representation of how things really are.

~Sara
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imallie

Sara - I don't know if any of the following will help. But I had a visceral reaction to what you just wrote on a number of levels, it seemed like clicking "like" wasn't a very honest action. So apologies in advance if this doesn't resonate in return.

The loss of self-esteem when the one or ones who have fueled that very part of your identity are no longer in your life — well it isn't something I've seen or dealt with from the romantic-side, but very much from the professional. I've seen it happen to coaches especially, very successful coaches whose careers ended prematurely (they ALL think their careers end prematurely)... and when your job involves going to work where people are literally cheering for you (or booing at you, which, trust me, is a form a cheering, self-esteem-wise) it is hard to take. They ask what good are they?

I felt/feel it too, when I had to stop working because of my medical issues. It's hard to describe to someone what it's like to walk into a big arena and tens of thousands of people have paid to be there to see something you're part of. To be walking around down in the center of it... and sometimes with friends and family in the stands. It's quite a thing, and it fuels you. And when it's gone, you start saying ... well, without this, what is my value?

There aren't easy answers to it. As you said, you look for evidence to reinforce this. Once you're out of the loop, people aren't returning phone calls like they once did. I definitely let unreturned messages bother me much more than I ever did before. But I try to work on all that.

But you also try to close your circle. Replacing the source of self-esteem with another is just a band-aid. People try to do it, but it's not enough. But it's also ok to look at what REMAINS and realize it's enough. Look at that people in your life who valued you before and after, and appreciate them more. Yes, there's some guilt that maybe you should have appreciated them more earlier... but changing the past is not worth anyone's time or effort.

I am not going to tell you that you have lots of people here who think you're the bees knees (present company included), because as mentioned, that's a band-aid. But I know there are friends and family in your life who think you're pretty great... and they're the ones who you can lean on if you need a bit of a self-esteem boost. But as you're doing, the rest comes from self-explorations and deciding that you rely on yourself.

I know you know all this. I almost deleted the last paragraph because it's SOO on the nose... but eh, it's already typed and I feel a bit lazy this afternoon.

Wish I could offer any pearls of wisdom on the guilt stuff. If you happen to figure that one out, please share. I'm still working on that myself. Miles to go before I sleep.

Love,
Allie
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