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Life on other planets...

Started by lady amarant, February 18, 2008, 05:09:07 AM

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cindybc

Mars report
The atmosphere is mostly composed of C02 some water ice crystals and a trace of methane gas in different places coming from the surface. This trace amount of methane gas could be a good indication that there is or was recently living organisms down on the surface or seeping up through the ground.

The entire planet shows some very promising indications of once having contained large bodies of water in different places. There are also some verry promissing traces of what use to be many large river deltas that spill out in alluvial fans in different areas as they carve their way across the Martian  surface.

NASA themselves have admitted that much of the missing water that might have in time was mostly covered by sand and dust, the sand and dust acting quite effectively as an insulator that keeps the ice from sublimating into the atmosphere. There have also been what appears to be glaciers that can still be sited by the HIRISE probe on different areas of Mars, especially on the sides and bottom of large impact craters. It has been estimated that the period all this water was in fluid form and flowed freely everywhere on the planet's surface was approximately about 30,000,000 years ago

Now it is being said that Mars is undergoing global warming. How far this will continue and if it does and how long will it take for it to return to it's original state 30,000,000 years ago.  As for a large asteroid striking Mars around the time that water in it's fluid form is quite possible. Next time you look at photos of Mars take a close look at Valles Marineris. To me it appears to be that a very large object like a asteroid hit Mars with a glancing blow then continuing to gouge the surface which creating a very large long trench that is today known as Valles Marineris. What was left of the mass of the comet then glanced up and away from Mars back into space.





Cindy   
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drkprincess

I don't doubt that Mars could of been very earth like, or that it might even have life. I have been wondering just how much water there really is on Mars. As far as methane being a sign of life I am not sure about. While here on earth animals do produce methane, I don't believe thats the only source. There is a moon out there, I believe it is one of Uranus's moons.... (I am not 100 percent sure on that I would have to research it). Anyhow, it is said that this moon has vast lakes of methane... wait a sec was it methane... I will get back to this I have to research now LoL

~Rachel~



Posted on: February 25, 2008, 04:38:57 AM
Ok, I was somewhat on it.. the moon is Saturn's moon Titan. And it does have alot of methane in the atmosphere. But they believe there to be a large liquid mass on the surface to also be methane. And here is an article on it http://www.astrobio.net/news/article2070.html
The point I was getting at is that I don't see how there could be that much methane produced from organic matter such as we have here on earth. While I don't rule out that maybe there could be lifeforms that produce it and some live off it, maybe it cycles like water does here. But I also don't rule out another source. What this source is im not sure. But as for small amounts I do believe that it could show life on mars, but maybe it could be something else as well.

~Rachel~

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Ell

Quote from: lady amarant on February 25, 2008, 03:07:25 AM
Somewhere along the line, a big corporation (or China) will send a probe, if only to get there first so they can claim mining rights.

i don't know how to agree with you on this point without sounding all depressing and stuff. but i do agree. what other model does one have to work from? all the money being spent on space exploration, meanwhile, we're turning our own little beautiful oasis of a planet into a polluted, stinking wasteland, causing widespread extinctions, and millions of people worldwide don't even have clean drinking water. how sick is that? how is this not what we'll do to other planets?  :-\

aw crap. now i'm all depressed and stuff.

-ellie
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lady amarant

Quote from: ell on February 25, 2008, 12:30:04 PM
aw crap. now i'm all depressed and stuff.

Welcome to the dark side.
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drkprincess

We have cookies on the dark side :-D

~Rachel~

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cindybc

Hi Lady Amarant. *Welcome to the dark side*. "Hee, hee ,hee" please do step into my coach, the fairy godmother said Cindy. Neat, got to remember that one.

Hi, Ell, honey, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  The entire universe plays this constant balancing act of both the dark and the light; male and female energy; the sacred feminine and the, Alpha and the Omega.  Add the darkness and light; the ocean tides and the rhythm of nature. 

How could one know what the light is unless they have also experienced darkness?  Every day as we move along these opposing energies, as our consciousness awakens, the more the light moves in and the darkness away, and like little children we enjoy immensely the new learnings and knowings that this ever expanding light brings us.

Depressing? No, hun, not at all. Every day is a time of discovery and learning and new experiences and it may excite me like a little kid with a new toy or yes, I can be momentarily depressed until my inquisitive mind draws me out of the dark to go play with my new friend, imagination.

As for water, or more precisely water ice, can be found not just on Mars but almost anywhere within this solar system. You will find ice in yes, *even on our moon, on asteroids, comets and on various moons orbiting around Jupiter and Saturn* and maybe even on the more distant outward planets.

Point being that water is not so much of a rare element as it was once previously thought to be. It exists in quite an abundance everywhere in our solar system.

Cindy
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drkprincess

Comets have water in them, this is what creates the tail that we as the water melts and leaves a trail.

~Rachel~

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Ell

Quote from: cindybc on February 25, 2008, 10:07:54 PM
Hi Lady Amarant. *Welcome to the dark side*. "Hee, hee ,hee" please do step into my coach, the fairy godmother said Cindy. Neat, got to remember that one.

Hi, Ell, honey, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  The entire universe plays this constant balancing act of both the dark and the light; male and female energy; the sacred feminine and the, Alpha and the Omega.  Add the darkness and light; the ocean tides and the rhythm of nature. 

How could one know what the light is unless they have also experienced darkness?  Every day as we move along these opposing energies, as our consciousness awakens, the more the light moves in and the darkness away, and like little children we enjoy immensely the new learnings and knowings that this ever expanding light brings us.

Depressing? No, hun, not at all. Every day is a time of discovery and learning and new experiences and it may excite me like a little kid with a new toy or yes, I can be momentarily depressed until my inquisitive mind draws me out of the dark to go play with my new friend, imagination.
Cindy

Thank you, Cindy. i guess it's just that 'the Dark Side' seems to totally eat my head sometimes.

-ellie
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cindybc

Hi Ell hon I wish I could hold you in my arms and comfort and protect you from the boogie men that inhabit the darkness. I will send prayer and positive energy to enshroud you and keep you warm and safe from the boogie men.

Cindy
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lady amarant

The dark side can get really dark. Especially on Mondays. Tuesday is usually better though, plus you get to look forward to cool Force powers those wussy goody-goody Jedi aren't allowed to use.

>:D 
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drkprincess

Do we get double sided light sabers too? I want pink!! *giggles* Or better yet, black so you can sneak up on people in the dark :-D

~Rachel~
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lady amarant

Quote from: drkprincess on February 26, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
Do we get double sided light sabers too? I want pink!! *giggles* Or better yet, black so you can sneak up on people in the dark :-D

~Rachel~

A pair of green ones! Green is pretty.

We are SUCH geeks, you and I... ;)
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cindybc

A pink one for me and an invisibility cloak for you!

I stand guard as the sentry of light atop the mountain overlooking the valley below.  Carefully I scrutinize the many making their way wearily through the narrow passageway between the mountains that stand like like dark sentinels to either side of the valley.

I, the Lady of Light stand firmly and regally upon the granite beneath my feet, with my light sword held up, at the ready, in my right hand. I stand, watching every movement of my people as they migrate from the valley into the narrow mountain pass.

Jeez, I'm getting rusty at writing.

Cindy 
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lady amarant

Quote from: cindybc on February 28, 2008, 12:05:30 AM
Jeez, I'm getting rusty at writing.

Cindy 

Quite enjoyed that, actually!
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drkprincess

Hey! Im not a geek, ok maybe alittle :-P
All I need is a robotic back now.

~Rachel~

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lady amarant

Quote from: drkprincess on February 28, 2008, 09:19:30 PM
Hey! Im not a geek, ok maybe alittle :-P
All I need is a robotic back now.

~Rachel~



Being a geek is a GOOD thing dear-heart.

Geeks rule the world, for better or worse - Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell...

I am VERY comfortable being a geek.

:icon_no1swatching-nerd:
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drkprincess

Can't compare me to them, I am pretty dumb and slow witted for a geek.

~Rachel~

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lady amarant

Quote from: drkprincess on February 29, 2008, 12:19:02 AM
Can't compare me to them, I am pretty dumb and slow witted for a geek.

Not judging by the stuff you say around here...
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drkprincess

No, im just judging myself because I know myself better then anyone :-P

~Rachel~

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cindybc

Hi, Drkprincess,

I don't know if I can identify with being a geek, although there are times I love reading books. well maybe that just makes me a bookworm. I also wonder if I am dumb and slow when I post something and don't get any responses, then later discover that some indeed had read and understood what I said.

My writing style can change quite rapidly from the sweet country girl to one who can dissect everything into its tiniest components and put it back together, methodically, so that I can understand the mechanics of said dissection. Or maybe get lost on the waves of the ethereal concept of the multiverses, come down to Earth again, and get into a conversation about hairstyles and makeup and the newest in summer wear. I can adapt quite readily to the many trade winds from the seas of Susan's Transgender Forums.   
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