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Would you take the normal pill?

Started by shanetastic, March 07, 2008, 02:37:55 AM

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Would you take the "normal" pill assuming you would have to live in your biological sex?

Yes - I am pre Transition
14 (8%)
Yes - I am currently transitioning
18 (10.3%)
Yes - I am post transition
3 (1.7%)
No - I am pre transition
47 (27%)
No - I am currently transitioning
48 (27.6%)
No - I am post transition
30 (17.2%)
Unsure
14 (8%)

Total Members Voted: 120

shanetastic

This question sorta got me wondering off Kate's old poll here.

I was wondering if that you could take the normal pill right now; would you?.  In doing so, you would purge your TS mind for one that is of your biological sex that you were born.  You would never feel anything TS related again, and your mind would match your biological sex.  Let me know if I messed up stating anything too nonspecific.

I'm adding categories to the answer and I'll specify right now:

What I specifically mean:

Pre transition - no therapy, hormones, surgeries or anything
Currently Transitioning - in therapy, taking hormones, doing anything toward transition pretty much. Not Fulltime
Post transition - meaning that you are full time.  Doesn't matter about SRS or FFS or any other surgeries.

I just say post transition because I don't know a better word choice so sorry if it's technically wrong only thing I could think of  ???

Let me know if I left anything out please.  Thanks.
trying to live life one day at a time
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tekla

Normal sounds boring, which makes people want to take pills in the first place.  Thanks, I'll stay weird, you meet a better class of people that way.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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annajasmine

I pick "No - I am currently transitioning". What bothers about the pill it changes the mind who I am. Where transition is mostly about the body. I know hrt does changes make with the mind but I don't think it would be as drastic as the normal pill. Maybe hrt is a type of normal pill?


Anna
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shanetastic

Who knows!

I just made this outta randomness to be honest hehe.  I was curious to see what the results would be.  Especially between the like different stages everyone is in. . . even though I could have probably specified them a little better.  But meh, what can ya do :P
trying to live life one day at a time
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Autumn

I... did take the normal pill, it seems. It started around the time I switched from propecia to avodart.

It is... very, very weird. I've had this beast on my back for so long and it's mostly gone now. I genuinely can't understand what's going on. I still crossdress every day. I had to cut all my nails off because of some crap I got from the mall, but I'm growing them back out again. I still... greatly fear my face becoming more masculinized, and i hope that the whole 1 in a billion swelling breast side effect of avodart strikes me. I paid for near full body laser hair removal (got a really good deal on it), which might be something aiding the coping with dysphoria.

I just... am me right now. I still prefer to be ma'amed. I fear a few years to several years down the road where I'll be at as my body ages. I'm just so very confused. The other day for a few minutes I thought about being a father. I've never wanted kids, ever, let alone wanted to be a dad.

Also somewhere in there I told my mom and while she was relatively supportive she filled me with even more doubt.

I'm dealing with "are you gay?" "is he gay?" "you're bi right" "it's okay to do what makes you happy do you like men" from all sides this past month. I'm not entirely sure what to make of it, except that it's all been pretty positive and supportive. Well, aside from a friend of mine announcing to a class of mine something about me liking boys when in my absence someone said there's something different about me. (i told her that i'm not against the idea if i were to find someone special, but I can't stand most guys as human beings. totally dropped the ball there, dear)

Normal just sounds so... flat, though. Boring. Lifeless. Not me.
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buttercup

I'd like normal thanks.  Had enough of being the different one, standing out etc. etc.

I crave normal.   :)
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lady amarant

Normal might've been easier, but I look at the lives genetically and genitally congruent, heterosexual people live, and they're generally just as screwed up as mine, though for different reasons. So normal wouldn't be all that better, in that regard. The one element that adds to our problems significantly is intolerance, and that's not going to make me pick normal, no matter how difficult that intolerance has and will make my life.
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Sandy

Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Kate

Before OR after transitioning, NO... I wouldn't.

It'd be suicide, since you'd be changing your identity, the foundation of Who You Are. Once that's changed, it's not "your" identity. It's an entirely new person in the same shell.

Hmmm, interesting question! Because you've got me saying that gender isn't just an aspect of one's soul, like the clothing one wears, but rather that it IS one's soul. I AM female(ness), you can't seperate it from "me" without destroying the person in the process.

~Kate~
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tekla

As it turns out, lots of straight people kill themselves too.  Its not an action exclusive to our community. 

Lady A is right.  Normal people have problems too. 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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lady amarant

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soldierjane

Normal pill? Nah. Since being female is an important part of myself it'd be like suicide.

Normal's way overrated anyway.

I voted wrong btw, I'm actually *post* transition without surgeries yet not "in transition".
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Shana A

No normal pill for me thanks. I'm OK just as I am.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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shanetastic

Quote from: Kate on March 07, 2008, 11:06:42 AM
Before OR after transitioning, NO... I wouldn't.

It'd be suicide, since you'd be changing your identity, the foundation of Who You Are. Once that's changed, it's not "your" identity. It's an entirely new person in the same shell.

Hmmm, interesting question! Because you've got me saying that gender isn't just an aspect of one's soul, like the clothing one wears, but rather that it IS one's soul. I AM female(ness), you can't seperate it from "me" without destroying the person in the process.

~Kate~

That's an interesting way of looking at it, Kate.  Technically, it would be changing your identity I believe.  Of course defining a soul and what it means is probably much more difficult and personalized, but I get where you're coming from.  It'd be like cleansing a person of who they really are in some extent I guess.
trying to live life one day at a time
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Nero

If I'd been asked this as a child - a definite yes. Spent my entire childhood being jealous of normal girls. I just wanted to be somebody, anybody who wasn't hated by everyone.

Now - a resounding NO. I love me.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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christene

Not a chance....normal is boring. I don't think I could handle that....
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Sheila

I'm not sure of the question. I put not sure. I am "normal" in every sense of the word. Now, if you said that, should I take the pill when I was born or when I felt different about my gender, well, I would have said that I wanted to be who I was when I was born. I didn't want to go through my life like I have. I would have felt very much " normal" all my life. I wouldn't have been thinking about who I should have been, instead, I would have focused more on my life. I wouldn't have that problem hanging over my head. It didn't happen and I'm who I should have been when I was born. Times are getting better, we have people identitfying before too much damage is done by either hormone.
Sheila
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shanetastic

QuoteI was wondering if that you could take the normal pill right now; would you?.  In doing so, you would purge your TS mind for one that is of your biological sex that you were born.  You would never feel anything TS related again, and your mind would match your biological sex.  Let me know if I messed up stating anything too nonspecific.

Did I mess up how I phrased it?
trying to live life one day at a time
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Kate

Quote from: shanetastic on March 07, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
That's an interesting way of looking at it, Kate.  Technically, it would be changing your identity I believe.  Of course defining a soul and what it means is probably much more difficult and personalized, but I get where you're coming from.  It'd be like cleansing a person of who they really are in some extent I guess.

Right, and I suppose if someone considers their GID to be an added-on delusion, obsession, compulsion or sickness... it'd make perfect sense to take a pill to "cure" it, as they're just fixing a nasty "habit" of sorts. OCD people who wash their hands until they bleed, for example, would probably want to take a pill to make them stop obsessing.

But to change your identity? Might as well throw out the existing brain, and swap a new one in, ya know? It didn't really cure anything, it REPLACED it.

If you had a terrible fight with someone you love, would you take a pill to forget you ever knew them to "cure" that anger? Would you choose to forget your childhood entirely, just to never again deal with the "bad" memories?

~Kate~
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soldierjane

Quote from: Kate on March 07, 2008, 03:46:52 PM

If you had a terrible fight with someone you love, would you take a pill to forget you ever knew them to "cure" that anger? Would you choose to forget your childhood entirely, just to never again deal with the "bad" memories?

~Kate~


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