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Androgynees and Pronouns - He or She Preference

Started by Nero, March 07, 2008, 03:52:34 PM

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Nero

Good afternoon, my darlings.

I've been wondering...

Okay, I assume that the standard 'sie, hir, hym, they, their, etc' aren't normally used in spoken language.
Or at least not used by many.
Most peeps one comes in contact with are going to use one or the other - he or she.

So, given the choice only between he or she which would you prefer to be referred to as?
A he or a she?

Okay, for this - don't take into account your passability as one or the other.
Just if given the choice, would you rather be called he or she?

Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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sd

It doesn't really bother me except in situations where it can be a problem in which case he or him is best.


Edit: I really need to read everything first and I still did not give a straight answer  :P.
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Constance

I usually just use he. It seems good enough...for now.

Shana A

I prefer non gendered pronouns, zie or sie, etc... however most people in the day to day world don't use them, or even know about them. I despise being referred to w/ male pronouns, especially being called sir or mister, so female pronouns are better.... but they don't feel quite right either.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Autumn

I prefer female, but that only happens with strangers  >:D
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RebeccaFog


I don't have a preference.  The words don't mean much to me anymore.  People call me he in real life, but some people call me she online.  Either one is just a word and I'm the one who decides what it means, which is nothing. 
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Alison

Quote from: Rebis on March 07, 2008, 06:52:11 PM

I don't have a preference.  The words don't mean much to me anymore.  People call me he in real life, but some people call me she online.  Either one is just a word and I'm the one who decides what it means, which is nothing. 

I agree with Rebis,  I have no preference to "he or she", most people call me "she" IRL.. I prefer 'they' but I'm lighthearted normally and not picky.  I only start taking offense when someone deliberately calls me 'she' after knowing I don't prefer it, usually to make a point to show they don't believe my gender identity exists... (and unfortunately this has indeed happened)
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RebeccaFog


   I have some people who revert to calling me he just because it's a habit or tradition.   They went with 'she' for a while then it just went away.  I haven't have people intentionally screw with me yet.   When they do, they should be careful because depending upon my mood, I can be a swine.
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ambientdischord

I'm like Zythyra.  I really hate being called he, and I'm fairly feminine, but I don't feel like I'm a woman.  Still, She is a matter of convenience.
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Camden

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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Vivian on March 07, 2008, 07:22:59 PM
I'm like Zythyra.  I really hate being called he, and I'm fairly feminine, but I don't feel like I'm a woman.  Still, She is a matter of convenience.
You look like a she.
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Pica Pica

i couldn't give a castlemaine, both are meaningless applied to me. Out of the two I would choose 'he' cos 'she' would mean I am being put up with and pandered to. I do not look all too she.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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RebeccaFog

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Shana A

One funny thing, when people use male pronouns for me, I always feel as though they're talking about someone else, not me.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Louise

If I am wearing feminine attire I prefer being addressed with feminine pronouns, but when I am dressed in male attire I expect that people will use masculine pronouns.  I would not mind if someone referred to me as "she" when I am in male attire, but I would not expect it, and I take no offense to being referred to as "he".  My gender is fluid, so I do not mind the pronouns being fluid as well.

In a somewhat related vein, there is a discussion on the TG Forum about "A Man in a Dress" and how John (or Jane) Q Public might address such a person.  I know that I do not pass very well as a woman and am generally perceived as male no matter what my attire.  Still, when a person is wearing a dress or a skirt (with the exception of a man in kilts), I think it is only polite to use feminine pronouns.  When a person is wearing pants the situation is more flexible--if the individual is attempting (successfully or not) to appear male, masculine pronouns are appropriate, on the other hand if the individual is attempting to appear female, feminine pronouns are appropriate.  For those of us who are trying to appear androgynous, it is probably best to avoid pronouns or any gender specific references.
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sd

Quote from: Zythyra on March 07, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
One funny thing, when people use male pronouns for me, I always feel as though they're talking about someone else, not me.

Z

Actually, I feel that way about "Sir" and "Mister".
It always makes me want to look around for an older gentleman.
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Shana A

Quote from: sd on March 08, 2008, 12:46:09 AM
Actually, I feel that way about "Sir" and "Mister".
It always makes me want to look around for an older gentleman.

When I'm called Mr _____, I think that they must want to talk to my father.... btw I still feel this way and I just had my 52nd.  :P

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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sd

Quote from: Zythyra on March 08, 2008, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: sd on March 08, 2008, 12:46:09 AM
Actually, I feel that way about "Sir" and "Mister".
It always makes me want to look around for an older gentleman.

When I'm called Mr _____, I think that they must want to talk to my father.... btw I still feel this way and I just had my 52nd.  :P

Z

Just another thing to not look forward to. ::)


Happy belated B-day Zythyra.
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ambientdischord

Quote from: Rebis on March 07, 2008, 09:19:20 PM
You look like a she.

Thanks!  Rather she than he.  I'm starting to wonder about the whole androgyne thing because I like appearing as a female, and more often than not I pass somehow as female.  So, maybe I'm just trans  :-\

Quote from: Zythyra on March 07, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
One funny thing, when people use male pronouns for me, I always feel as though they're talking about someone else, not me.

I'll look around to see if someone else has entered the conversation, or see who they are pointing to, even when it could only be me.  I'm just not used to it anymore.
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