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Started by Terra, April 24, 2008, 02:13:11 AM

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What orientation do you identify as based on your gender?

M2F -Straight
32 (25%)
M2F -Gay
20 (15.6%)
M2F -Bisexual
38 (29.7%)
F2M -Straight
9 (7%)
F2M -Gay
9 (7%)
F2M -Bisexual
12 (9.4%)
Androgynous- Man
0 (0%)
Androgynous- Woman
1 (0.8%)
Androgynous- Bisexual
7 (5.5%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Lucy

Quote from: Angel on April 24, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: sneakersjay on April 24, 2008, 06:19:14 AM
Well this is all relatively new to me, but I've heard that sometimes after taking T, your orientation can change, so I don't know if I'll be interested in women after I transition. I've heard that some guys do.

I honestly don't think your orientation changes. But like our true gender, we bury it as kids to fit in better. I'm willing to bet money that most transsexuals started off 'straight' in relation to their birth sex. Not everyone does this, and not everyone hid their true gender either.

In my case it was after I started to transition that I allowed myself to be attracted to men. Looking back there had been cases were I was before, but I never acknowledged the feeling. Now I realize that i'm bi, because I like both men and women. So I never changed my orientation, simply rediscovered it. :)

I will have to go back and read the rest of the messages but I have to say that I do beleive that this orientation can change, you said your self that you found your self looking at men, that is a change call it a rediscovery if you wish but it is still a change.

I have ticked bi for many reasons, I am only interested in a hetrosexual relationship, as a man I want to be with a woman and as a woman I only want to be with a man. That is just my prefrance, That is a compleat swing in sexuality sort of.

Does any one get me or am I out there on a limb talking rubbish to my self....
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Jay

I am F2M -Straight! ;D Cant help but love the ladies! ;D


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Terra

Quote from: Lucy on April 25, 2008, 01:40:56 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 24, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: sneakersjay on April 24, 2008, 06:19:14 AM
Well this is all relatively new to me, but I've heard that sometimes after taking T, your orientation can change, so I don't know if I'll be interested in women after I transition. I've heard that some guys do.

I honestly don't think your orientation changes. But like our true gender, we bury it as kids to fit in better. I'm willing to bet money that most transsexuals started off 'straight' in relation to their birth sex. Not everyone does this, and not everyone hid their true gender either.

In my case it was after I started to transition that I allowed myself to be attracted to men. Looking back there had been cases were I was before, but I never acknowledged the feeling. Now I realize that i'm bi, because I like both men and women. So I never changed my orientation, simply rediscovered it. :)

I will have to go back and read the rest of the messages but I have to say that I do beleive that this orientation can change, you said your self that you found your self looking at men, that is a change call it a rediscovery if you wish but it is still a change.

I have ticked bi for many reasons, I am only interested in a hetrosexual relationship, as a man I want to be with a woman and as a woman I only want to be with a man. That is just my prefrance, That is a compleat swing in sexuality sort of.

Does any one get me or am I out there on a limb talking rubbish to my self....

I did say that I was looking at men, but I was looking long before I transitioned to. I remember quite clearly having the biggest crush on one of my male friends during high school. I never acted on it, I wasn't gay. (from the mindset of trying to be a guy at the time.)

What I was trying to suggest was that perhaps when we 'change' our orientations we are actually expressing our 'true' orientation. For me, being with a guy as a guy wasn't going to happen. I could not do that. But to be with a guy as a girl was a longtime fantasy, one that now has a chance to become reality. So it wasn't a change, it was me being able to actually pursue the relationship on my terms. I'm willing to bet if I was born a girl I would be the same way.
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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sneakersjay

QuoteWhat I was trying to suggest was that perhaps when we 'change' our orientations we are actually expressing our 'true' orientation. For me, being with a guy as a guy wasn't going to happen. I could not do that. But to be with a guy as a girl was a longtime fantasy, one that now has a chance to become reality. So it wasn't a change, it was me being able to actually pursue the relationship on my terms. I'm willing to bet if I was born a girl I would be the same way.

That's what I was trying to say wrt changing orientation.  Always when dreaming or fantasizing about sex from time I knew what it was, I was always the guy and on top.  Mostly my 'partner' was an amorphous blob, lol.  But on occasion it was a girl.  And yes, as a biological girl, i could NOT even imagine being girl/girl.  Let's just say I'm open to what taking T will bring, though right now my feelings are far more towards being with men, with being with a woman barely registering on my consciousness.

Jay


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Christo

Quote from: Jay on April 25, 2008, 02:09:27 AM
I am F2M -Straight! ;D Cant help but love the ladies! ;D

yep :laugh:  u got it bro :laugh:
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Seshatneferw

Quote from: Angel on April 25, 2008, 05:28:34 AM
So it wasn't a change, it was me being able to actually pursue the relationship on my terms. I'm willing to bet if I was born a girl I would be the same way.

That sounds about right: the apparent change in orientation is more a matter of having to compensate for being in the wrong body, and later not having to do that. For my part, there has to be at least one woman involved -- ideally me, but in a pinch my partner will do. ;)

(By the by, there was another discussion thread here on this issue a month or so ago. It didn't have a poll, though.)

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Chaunte

So, since I still prefer women to men, I should put down gay, right?

On the other hand, I was watching Will Smith in the movie I Am Legend working out and found myself oddly attracted to his muscles.  It took almost every thing I had to keep from shouting, "Whoa!  Where did THAT come from?!" in the middle of the movie theater.  I know I said it softly to myself.  My girlfriend Cheryl blamed it on the estrogen.

Strange.  I never really considered the question before.  Even as I write, I am still trying to get my head around this concept that, as a mtf transsexual, I am lesbian.  I can smell the insulation burning from my brain short circuiting.  I think the smoke detector is even about to go off!

I guess I have considered myself more asexual than anything - having little to no sex drive.  It must be that green Vulcan blood that is in my veins.

Chaunte
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Scratchy Wilson

I like women, maybe even a little too much.  ;)
I'm not closed to the idea of having an open sexuality, it just doesn't appeal to me right now.
My answer, by the way, was FTM Straight.
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lemon

Quote from: Chaunte on April 26, 2008, 07:22:03 AM
I was watching Will Smith in the movie I Am Legend working out and found myself oddly attracted to his muscles.

me too girl  >:D

i have always liked guys, every now and then maybe like 1 out of 1000 girls affects me & i'll get a "girl crush" especially on cute slightly butch tomboys, but i know a lot of straight people who get those too. i don't think i'd date a girl seriously though because i'd probably want a guy in the end, so i chose straight.
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discarded

F2M Bi. I used to identify as gay, but...since transitioning I've found myself more attracted to the ladies. My previous views towards women were jaded by the fact that I felt I was being 'forced' to be one. Now that, that isn't the case, my views have certainly changed. I suppose I've matured quite a bit.
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Sheila

I would like to know what the term is for me. I'm married to GG and we don't have sex. I'm not interested in dating anyone as I'm married. I like both but not in sexual ways. I guess I have always been this way. So what catagory to I fit in?
Sheila
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Yvonne

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Elincubus

hm, I'm f2m and while I find girls very attractive, I identify much more as gay and can't really see myself with a girl right now. I mean if I met the right girl why not, but generally I think it's for me like some girl on this forum expressed it:
She said she never thought about having a relationship with a guy before transitioning because she needed something female in it and if she couldn't be the woman herself then she needed at least her partner to be one.
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Pica Pica

'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Shana A

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 27, 2008, 02:39:27 PM
>:(
left out again.

Me too.  :(

I suppose the reason is that the poll is in the TS section....

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Pica Pica

yeah. but it didn't need to be.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Nero

Quote from: Sheila on April 27, 2008, 10:31:15 AM
I would like to know what the term is for me. I'm married to GG and we don't have sex. I'm not interested in dating anyone as I'm married. I like both but not in sexual ways. I guess I have always been this way. So what catagory to I fit in?
Sheila

Sounds as if you're asexual.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Shana A

I've come up with some new categories, Stray or Gait? Stay or Grate?  ;)  :D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Pica Pica

strange gait (after poking the grate?)
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Butterfly

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