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non-binary transition?

Started by Kinkly, July 01, 2008, 03:27:08 AM

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as an androgyne do you feel the need to change your body

no I'd be happy in any body
1 (3%)
no my body is andrgyness already
1 (3%)
yes I wish to show both male & fem parts
10 (30.3%)
yes i want to show no gedered parts
4 (12.1%)
yes a more netural look
10 (30.3%)
yes other
5 (15.2%)
yes but not for gender reasons
2 (6.1%)
no other
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Kinkly

I'm curious how many androgynes feel the need to change there body to show there true selves and how
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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je

I still consider myself an androgyne. Yet even so I want my body to match my identity -- which is not completely male or female. I wish the world would be more accepting of this, but of course I'll be perceived as a weirdo for only changing some things.

Regardless my sights are set on doing this. I guess I'm supposed to love my body, but that just isn't the case. It just isn't true.



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Shana A

As I've posted in another thread this morning, I'm now feeling the need to move forward in this regard. Not really sure how far I need to go, I'm sure I'll know what feels right when I get there, lol.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Seshatneferw

Quote from: Zythyra on July 01, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
Not really sure how far I need to go, I'm sure I'll know what feels right when I get there, lol.

That just about sums it up for me too.

At least for me it's not really a matter of wishing 'a more neutral look' or 'both male and female parts', but rather a conflict between a need to be female and a need to be male. I'm pretty much convinced I have Benjamin's syndrome (that is, the medical syndrome one gets by taking the snobbery and political crap out of HBS), and in that sense a need for a female body is always lurking somewhere in the back of my mind. On the other hand, there are a lot of social reasons to not go all the way -- for instance, a need for intimacy with the person I love is enough for me to appreciate the flesh-and-blood dildo between my legs. What I'm looking for is a compromise between these conflicting needs.

For me, being androgyne is more a matter of social gender than physical sex. Still, that social gender makes me unwilling to fix the physical issues quite as much as I'd otherwise want to. As for how far I'm going, trial and error has worked surprisingly well over the past year or so, but only time will tell if that's going to continue. I still have my hopes.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Lukas-H

I would love to be able to change certain parts of my body to appear more in the middle between the binary genders, but it's not something I'll likely do for a long time, if ever. I've taken a few small, inexpensive steps toward a more neutral appearance such as a different haircut and thinking about dressing a little differently/more neutral sometimes.

I kind of never thought about it, but like Je said, we might be perceived as "weird" if we only change -some- things, and not everything. I guess after modern america taking so long to understand TS, adrogyne/third gender is a whole different ballgame that might take a while to understand as well.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Jaimey

I would like to look more neutral.  I don't really care about the body so much as my face/hair...I'd like to look completely androgynous. 
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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VeryGnawty

I've been meditating on this for a long time, to be sure I know what I really want out of the body.  It seems that the answer is yes, I do want to change the body, but not "all the way" like a TS.

This desire poses a lot of practical complications.
"The cake is a lie."
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Kinkly

Quote from: je on July 01, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
I still consider myself an androgyne. Yet even so I want my body to match my identity -- which is not completely male or female. I wish the world would be more accepting of this, but of course I'll be perceived as a weirdo for only changing some things.

Regardless my sights are set on doing this. I guess I'm supposed to love my body, but that just isn't the case. It just isn't true.

Thats how i feel to
wanting to change doesn't make you not an androgyne

for me a fem body +beard


if any 1 wants a new option just say so I'll add it
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Kinkly on July 02, 2008, 07:23:27 AM
Quote from: je on July 01, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
I still consider myself an androgyne. Yet even so I want my body to match my identity -- which is not completely male or female. I wish the world would be more accepting of this, but of course I'll be perceived as a weirdo for only changing some things.

Regardless my sights are set on doing this. I guess I'm supposed to love my body, but that just isn't the case. It just isn't true.

Thats how i feel to
wanting to change doesn't make you not an androgyne

for me a fem body +beard


if any 1 wants a new option just say so I'll add it

I'd love to be able to have facial hair :( I actually think I'd look quite well with a 'stache :D
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Eva Marie

For me, i've come to the conclusion that being androgyne is mostly a mental "thing" for me moreso than a requiring physical body changes thing. Still, i'm working on a few body tweaks here and there  :laugh:
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Sunako

I've always been androgynous mentally and emotionally, and I feel my body should reflect that as well. I've taken steps (and still am) to become genderless physically, and though I may never be completely genderless (internal organs etc) there is an outer appearance that first opinions are made on; which is something I try to make neutral.
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Kendall

Enjoy what my money, time, and therapy have created and molded, or I should say corrected. No other way.
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Caroline

I am neutrois and have been on testosterone blockers and a low dose of estrogen for a little over a year.  I've gained a little breast growth from this which I don't really like but I deal and am small enough that binding is easy (breasts removal is an option later if I feel I need it).*  My appearance is probably more on the female side of androgynous now but not so much that I cant easily appear ambiguous with appropriate clothing.  I've also had a lot of laser so am nearly clear of facial hair.

Today is the biggest step, losing the male genitalia.  Getting pretty close to my body being the way I feel it should be now.

*The alternative was going on T-blockers only which would have had health impacts and I would have still looked basically male, so in the long term this seemed the best option, and I'm glad i took it.  Though if I hadn't been able to access surgery in a fairly short time frame I probably would have taken a slower transition path starting with just T-blockers.
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Shana A

Quote from: Andra on July 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
Today is the biggest step, losing the male genitalia.  Getting pretty close to my body being the way I feel it should be now.

Congratulations Andra! I hope your surgery goes well today!

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Kinkly

Quote from: Andra on July 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM

Today is the biggest step, losing the male genitalia.  Getting pretty close to my body being the way I feel it should be now.


congratulations Andra
good luck with a fast recovery
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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sd

Congrats Andra, I hope you recover quickly.
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NickSister

That's awsome andra. How did it go? (and don't say *snip* ;))

If I were to 'transition' I would not have any surgery. I think all I need could be achieved with hormones.

I'm currently in a really low dysphoria 'phase' coming off the back of a horrendous dysphoria 'phase'. My body is good -I feel once again that I am a goddess of a man.

I think I have transitioned to some extent. My facial hair is almost gone thanks to lazer. My hair is getting real long so I have something to play with. I removed my flesh tunnels and the holes have shrunk so that I can now wear pretty earings. The ultimate would be social androgyny but I'll settle for social oddity for now.

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sd

I too am wondering, how are you Andra?


Glad to see you doing better Nicksister.
Sounds like you accomplished or learned something from the experience.
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NickSister

Quote from: sd on July 06, 2008, 04:33:16 PM
Glad to see you doing better Nicksister.
Sounds like you accomplished or learned something from the experience.

Thank you. Yes, I do feel like I have learned something. What that is I can't quite articulate, but I feel like I have the tail of something elusive. I'm starting to see that my ultimate 'end point' is not a distinct thing and that this is ok. I feel like if I can allow myself some fluidity, to express things that are purely me rather than see them as expressions of male or female, I will be much better off than trying to force myself into one hole or live up to some 'ideal'.
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Caroline

Quote from: NickSister on July 06, 2008, 04:29:53 PM
That's awsome andra. How did it go? (and don't say *snip* ;))

Went fine thanks, very little pain.  Still very swollen down there (par for the course) and peeing through a catheter but I am mobile and have a fair amount of energy.  Being discharged tuesday if all is well.  :)
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