non-binary transition?

[NickSister]

Went fine thanks, very little pain.  Still very swollen down there (par for the course) and peeing through a catheter but I am mobile and have a fair amount of energy.  Being discharged tuesday if all is well. 

Does this mean you are now a eunuch? I wonder if that name even applies to a neutrois?

I read somewhere about Turkish eunuchs of the 16th century keeping a hollow silver quill in their turbans that they use to help them pee. Sorry - random I know.

[Caroline]

Does this mean you are now a eunuch? I wonder if that name even applies to a neutrois?

I read somewhere about Turkish eunuchs of the 16th century keeping a hollow silver quill in their turbans that they use to help them pee. Sorry - random I know.

Not really sure eunuch applies, as I don't have a penis (eunuch generally seems to just refer to castrated men these days) and I don't regard myself as male. 

About the Turkish people, I can see how a penectomy without urethral relocation would lead to difficulty peeing.  My urethra has been re-routed down to where it is in female genitalia so I should be able to sit down and pee easily once healed.

[sd]

Not really sure eunuch applies, as I don't have a penis (eunuch generally seems to just refer to castrated men these days) and I don't regard myself as male. 

Look up nullified eunuch.
There is more than one way to make a eunuch.

[NickSister]

Not really sure eunuch applies, as I don't have a penis (eunuch generally seems to just refer to castrated men these days) and I don't regard myself as male. 

I figured the same thing. On a similar vein you can't really call a MtF that had SRS a eunuch.

[sparkles]

i went for both male and female parts, but would have been happyer with more nutrual really but i dont think this is achivable as when you take hormones or have ops you mostly either add or take away sexual carictoristics from one sex or the other so end up looking more like the other well naked at least what you choose to do with clothing and binders and stuff is another matter. so realisticly i go for both. if i get on hormones there will be some breast grow which people will see as female while also some lessening of male bits too. its a balance of the 2.

[IHPUN]

I definitely feel like I need to change my body to match who I feel I am.  I'm interested in doing what Andra did (though orchiectomy and low-level estrogen might be enough for me), but I'm very afraid that I won't be able to find therapists and doctor(s) who will help me.  I guess they exist, but how do I find them?

[trees]

i would like a more of a neutrality in my life, instead of being unquestionably physically female with all my clothes on and then consequently presumed to be the lesbian i am not since they "accidentally" took me for a boy.  my social transition may be seen a binary one, as i definitely plan to go on testosterone to deepen my voice and get top surgery and pass as male consistently causing a pronoun change.  for me, that is a part of my androgyny.  i am an androgynous being trapped in a pretty androgynous but not quite enough body.  the androgyny i had in childhood is what i'd like to strive for these days. but i'll be an old man one day, if i'm blessed enough to make it that far.   my history might look like it would have left me, but my androgynous spirit will always be there.

[Caroline]

I definitely feel like I need to change my body to match who I feel I am.  I'm interested in doing what Andra did (though orchiectomy and low-level estrogen might be enough for me), but I'm very afraid that I won't be able to find therapists and doctor(s) who will help me.  I guess they exist, but how do I find them?

Best thing to do first I think is to search around online for information about genderqueer/non-binary friendly therapists in your area.  If you find a therapist who'll help you and write the necessary letters then getting endos and doctors to deal with you shouldn't be much more difficult than for binary TSs.  The alternative is to e-mail/ring various therapists and ask.  There are a few who mention on their websites that they will help non-binary people.

Getting someone to do the surgery once you have letters is less of an issue since you can travel further for something that's a one off.

[icontact]

I'm happy with everything down there, but I'm still debating whether I'd prefer a full-on top surgery or just some sort of liposuction/breast reduction to get me down to an A cup, if even such a surgery exists, especially as I'm a large B, small C, and reduction surgeries are usually for those with DDD chests.

[Pica Pica]

so andra's gone for playing with knives...blimey. Does it feel right now?

[Caroline]

so andra's gone for playing with knives...blimey. Does it feel right now?

It feels like I have loose bits of stitching rubbing against my sensitive parts.
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Otherwise, yes.  Feels very very right 

[Pica Pica]

right is good

[IHPUN]

I hope I feel right in my body someday.  I'm starting to look for gender therapists in my area, but I can't find any information on whether or not they acknowledge non-binary genders, especially in terms of recommending hormones and surgery.  I guess I'll just have to start calling all of them.   

[RebeccaFog]

Congratulations to Andra who did achieve their goal!

[IHPUN]

I'd like to congratulate Andra too, of course!  I can't believe it wasn't the first thing I said.  I'm so glad you finally reached this goal and feel right in your body!   

[Wendy]

Dear Kinkly,

Actually I am not sure where I fit on the gender spectrum.  Medically I would be an androgyne but I am not sure of my classification.  Therefore I did not vote so that I do not mess up your statistics.  If I voted it would be "yes other". 

I did find the comments very interesting on your thread.

I do find the social pressure to perform "as expected" in your birth gender unbearable.  However since I do my best to hide my feelings from the outer world, I am unable to find where I fit or what would make me comfortable.

I have medically/chemically induced breasts and have for the most part permanently removed my beard.  These seem the correct decisions for me.  In public I present only as male and have not done any surgeries.  Since the social consequences of sharing my secrets with the world will be significant I continue to hide how I feel.  Therefore I remain unsure if I am both a male and female hence an adrogyne, or a female with a male body. 

[RebeccaFog]

Wow Wendy.

I always thought you'd go all the way. Interesting.

[Wendy]

Wow Wendy.

I always thought you'd go all the way. Interesting.

Oh Rebis.  You know I'm a good girl and only bad girls go all the way!

Actually I always thought my wife would give me the boot.  We have a very unusual relationship at this point but we are actually close friends.  I am asexual and she is "not a lesbian".

If my wife and I divorced last year I would have taken a trip abroad and been TS regardless of it being correct or not.  I do not need the permission of some American whitecoat to be a girl.  I certainly am not a guy even though the world thinks I am a guy.

However my wife and I love each other and she can accept me being TG as long as I hide it.  If I can not hide it I will need to leave to protect the family from danger. 

Here is an interesting note I read on this site from a TS: "All TS must at one point pass through being an androgyne."

I am really trying hard to put my life back together.  I may never find where my gender lies because if I do any more I can not hide my differences.  I will continue taking the hormones because they make me feel better.

W

[Pica Pica]

Here is an interesting note I read on this site from a TS: "All TS must at one point pass through being an androgyne."

that shows more that the ts didn't understand androgynes then. because the ts person always knew what gender they were, they just passed through an androgynous phase.

[Kinkly]

Here is an interesting note I read on this site from a TS: "All TS must at one point pass through being an androgyne."

that shows more that the ts didn't understand androgynes then. because the ts person always knew what gender they were, they just passed through an androgynous phase.

it also seems like the think it is only a parsing phase for some it is but others its a destination