Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Elwood- I am sorry I offended you, will you forgive me? Please know that sometimes I don't see things as offensive that society and people do find offensive. If I have done or said something or if I do or say something that you find offensive please tell me and I will listen to you, ok? If I can change something I will. Fair enough?
The only thing that really needs changing is that condescending tone. Otherwise, there is no problem with you disagreeing with me. That's called a discussion.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Also I read through my post from last night and I saw so many little problems in it that I am going to modify it so that I make some sense as clearly I didn't do a good job last night. Once I am done I will respond to your previous post and provide the details I promised last night. If anything needs clarification please ask. The funny thing is compared to verbally I make more sense in writing, except for last night obviously.
You might want to repost that post, as I won't be able to find your edits.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832In terms of my background. I am not a doctor of anything. I could never be bothered to stick to school that long. I am an independent learner and most of my education is self taught. However I did all the course work of elementary and high school but didn't graduate elementary or high school because I was brought out of mainstream classes in grade 4 and taught by teachers from the local school board at home. I attended a few post secondary education programmes, mainly certification programmes. I am Canadian and will use different spellings. I am a wilderness emergency medical technician (WEMT1) and participate in wilderness SAR work. I spent a few hours a week through my childhood in medical libraries while my mother or I had medical treatments and took that time to study which got me interested in medicine. My mother and many others in my family and friends are medical professionals who all contributed to my work. When the final papers are published will be recognized as they wish.
I hate to say it, but you want to know what this tells me? That you think you're smarter than you are, because you didn't complete school, and like a lot of people, never faced any true challenges. If a person is never challenged, they think life is so easy. The thing is, if you were home schooled a standard education, you should have graduated regardless.
I know about Canadian and English spelling. Being born in California does not make me entirely ignorant to other cultures. I am German and Canadian by blood, if that helps.
As for studying general medicine, I wouldn't call that the same thing as understanding physiology, which is actually the primary focus of my concerns. The chemical processes that will be going on. The sustaining of the organ. It's functions. How these things manage to fall into place. If I build and engine, dry, with no grease, no gas, no radiator fluid, no water, it's just going to sit there. That's why I think shoving erectile tissue into a clitoris might not exactly be the solution. The brain has to somehow respond to this tissue.
Again, being related to a doctor doesn't make you one. A lot of people on the internet who proclaim their genius and make all that ->-bleeped-<- up, claiming that they know more than anyone else regardless of their background, often claim that because mommy was a nurse they know how to perform a lobotomy. Do you see my point?
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Pre-ejaculate is produced by the Bulbourethral glands which are in women but called the Bartholin glands. In both men and women the fluid is mostly the same. While they are positioned in different places the Bartholin glands can be connected to the urethra during urethraplasty. The other tissue that will provides precum is using the vaginal mucus as a base for the multilayer urethraplasty. This is a known side effect of using vaginal mucus as graft material. It's main purpose is to lubricate the glans and foreskin and provide a favorable environment for sperm to pass the urethra.
Except ejaculation in men contains sperm, and it is often referred to as semen. That stuff that squirts out everywhere is held in their testicles and seminal vacuole or something (I read ahead, seminal vesicle). That's probably one reason it's a lot more and a lot more enjoyable. I don't think there is any way to make a transman squirt all over the place without some sort of testicle substitute.
Then another thing. If tissue from the vagina is used in the surgery, is that not going to have some of the issues the phalloplasty has? It isn't the right kind of tissue.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Clearly testicles produce sperm nor do women have them. We needn't go deeper. Seminal Vesicle produce about 60% of a man semen. Women do not have theses. However the vaginal secretions can make up for this.
Question: It is not at all the same material. The consistency, smell, amount, density, etc. is all different. Isn't that going to be a bit of a problem?
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Finally the prostate which in women is located inside the vagina and connects to the urethra. In woman it is called the Skene's glands though many now refer to it as the prostate.
I want to hear more that suggests this organ (that I've never heard of) is at all similar to a prostate in function and close enough that it could provide as a prostate substitute (not only chemically, but by quantity as well).
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832I am sorry you are told that a) you couldn't have a real penis
I still can't. Your surgery is a penis substitute. The only way for me to have a real penis would be provided through a transplant, which currently is not available to FtMs. It's hardly available to men who have lost their own in freak accidents.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832I am still able to have erections without testosterone in my system but it is a lot easier.
So why are you having this surgery? Is it only a size issue?
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832I am saying take what my penis is and make it look better.
I know that FtMs call a big clit their penis to make themselves feel better, but while we're talking about medical parts, can we clarify?
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832What does sustaining the organ mean to you? It won't fall apart and stop working because it isn't a perfect replica of a man's penis.
No, but it won't be much better than a phalloplasty in my eyes if taking my pants off still scares people. It's got to be close enough to a man's penis or it isn't going to help me in the least. Other people, maybe.
As for sustaining an organ, I mean functioning properly. But since you don't intend on constructing a penis (you're still making a phallo, just a more sophisticated one) my question really isn't relevant.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832The clitoris has a foreskin it is called the clitoral hood. the labia major is the scrotum.
They are not the same thing. You have a hard time understanding. They have the same origins, but they are not the same. Clearly, they are located in different places and look different. That is why people have sex changes. If they were the same, I'd be a man already (physically).
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832the clitoris is rooted much deeper then the penis. Well the penis is 75% outside the body the clitoris is 75% inside if not more.
In comparison to it's SIZE. But if the clitoris was extended to be as large as the penis externally, those numbers would be vastly different. You should know this.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832What is relevant is what you bring to the table. Genes, hormones, stress, illness, temperature, medications, transition age, etc all effect what you can bring to the table but it and it effects it to a degree. Yeah if you had no real growth, this is only going to give you a decent meta result. Yeah if you mutilated yourself then there might be problems same with if you had surgery in pelvis. However you focus on one thing genetics. Well since no one has my genes and I can't look at close relative to see how their body reacted to a similar situation, genes can only play a limited role in my surgical process. They have already done everything they are going to do in terms of my penis.
No, I don't focus on just one thing. Hormones, stress, illness, etc. can be changed. The only part of this equation that can't be changed is genetics, and that is why I gave it emphasis.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832I studied 18 hours a day before; now I am preparing my body for major surgery i.e. dental, hormonal, physical, cardiac and hematology requirements, preparation and exams. As well as eating healthily, working out, massage, medications and saline infusions. I haven't been on this website long if you will look and I joined to talk with peers and have support. I don't work, as I am on a disability pension. I am obsessive is why I worked like that and there was a lot to do. I sleep about 7 hours a day. I eat very little when I am obsessing over my work but I make sure to eat twice a day. When I am done this I am taking a break. I am a slob and hate house work. I generally ignore it. You are very right about brain dead moments and I will admit I had a few. Of course no reputable school would allow their students to destroy themselves in the name of education, I however have no such qualms especially for my penis. Actually you would be surprised just how many papers, books, essays, lectures, courses you can find about the genitals, the ways to change them and the ways they can happen. All of those areas are important plus more then a dozen other areas of medicine. Harvard med school which I assure you doesn't cover all medicine takes 7 years to complete. I have not come close to the hours put in by those who are doctors. After med school is a world of continuing learning.
No, I wouldn't be surprised, buddy, because I was in the same boat as you, except I wasn't making myself no guinea pig. Instead, I read extensively about physiology so I could understand the requirements to sustain a transplant. It is possible, but not medically ethical. The fact of the matter is, you aren't working very closely with a therapist. Your therapist is supposed to prevent this obsessive behavior, like mine did. Because it isn't your job to do this. You are not a doctor, you are not educated professionally in these areas, you are not credited, you don't have degrees to prove it and you're doing it all on some whim from some dream you had.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832Don't trust the internet but medical libraries, doctors, surgeons and specialist most of which publish regularly in journals, teach and attend conferences all of which if you are determined you can do. I do not think you are daft. Most profs and specialists are willing to answer questions and explain things if you approach them politely in the medical library with university or hospitals. Most of this research was long ago released with a few pieces still needing access to the current journals which I have. I am not talking about theoretical research but proven surgical techniques and yes it is released eventually online but I prefer the journals because it is more trustworthy. Medicine doesn't work like that, any surgeon has the right to attempt any surgery they feel competent to do and surgeons talk amongst themselves and learn from each other. They aren't worried about someone scooping their credits once they have published it. Most reputable doctors will answer close to any question or concern you have in regards to surgeries they preform.
No, a person cannot just attempt a surgery without some sort of approval. It's mutilation, and against the law. A homemade sex change is the same as a back alley abortion. It's no different.
Quote from: ->-bleeped-<-boy link=topic=38652.msg255472#msg255472 date=1216170832I have no idea who you think I am except perhaps for the insults you have used. However your opinion of me doesn't matter to me, what matters is you (in this context). You are very angry and I don't really know how to help you because I don't know what it is I have done to so upset you. You say a wave a magical bone. Well that is an assumption on your part that shortly will be proven incorrect. I don't know what "crop up some magical files" means. I do get your disbelief that my files are on a SD card in my bag. Or that I will need to pull them together tonight so I can offer the scientific side you asked for?
Prove me incorrect and I'll eat 250 Peeps. I have a feeling, however, you'll have to "urgently leave," never returning, because "something" came up, then you'll somehow not have the "opportunity" to prove it.
Heck, pulling together these alleged files really doesn't mean anything. Anyone could have written them, and I could right now crop up some crackpot documents.
"John Belushi's Will and Testament
I want to be buried right in the middle of Tiananmen Square. Oh, and mom doesn't get anything. Give it all to Judith and Danny.
Love,
Johnny"No problem.
Why do I even bother having this argument? Because if I am right, and you do disappear and prove nothing, than maybe a few people on this sight will get a clue. And if I'm wrong, well, I'll eat 250 Peeps.
