Any gay guys here?

[ConfusedMichelle]

For me Nero, it's about how my boyfriend feels.  I'm not at all self conscious because he treats me as 100% male.  If I had a million dollars, sure I'd get bottom surgery but eh, it's not a priority at the moment.  Much rather have chest. Hysto would be great.

Good luck on Sunday, bro    I won't see my boyfriend until October 2nd, which is 2 months later than he was supposed to come home   I haven't seen him since June due to my job, and now his.  But, that Cybercock will DEF. be put in to use October 2nd. lol I'll let ya know his reaction.

[Ciarquin]

I do suppose there are some, its a big world and there are few of just about everything around.  But in the 30 some years I've been a fellow traveler in gay circles it has stuck me more than once that its a pretty penis centered deal.

Yeah, sure seems to be... I guess it's difficult enough for a trans guy to be find a guy to have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with, so finding one who'd be willing to be with a trans guy in a sexless relationship would probably be next to impossible, eh? Though I suppose if they don't care about sex they would probably care much less about whether you had a penis or not.

[Arch]

I guess it's difficult enough for a trans guy to be find a guy to have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with, so finding one who'd be willing to be with a trans guy in a sexless relationship would probably be next to impossible, eh? Though I suppose if they don't care about sex they would probably care much less about whether you had a penis or not.

Hi, Ciarquin. I should think that it might be a LEETLE easier for a bottom to find a top who is less worried about the penis deal...but maybe not. I can't imagine many gay guys voluntarily entering into a sexless relationship...is that what you are looking for, though? I can see the personal ad right now...

[Ciarquin]

Hi, Ciarquin. I should think that it might be a LEETLE easier for a bottom to find a top who is less worried about the penis deal...but maybe not. I can't imagine many gay guys voluntarily entering into a sexless relationship...is that what you are looking for, though? I can see the personal ad right now...

It's what I'd be looking for, if looking I were, yeah. Sex seems really boring to me, I'd rather just hug or hold hands or something. Asexuals are supposedly only one percent of the population or so (though I personally think it's a bit higher than that) and there aren't many others who would be willing to be in a romantic relationship without the sexual aspect so it would be difficult to find someone to be with.

What does the personal ad look like, by the way?

[Elwood]

I want to be with somebody who knows I have a vagina but can ignore it in sexual play.

[kestin]

It's what I'd be looking for, if looking I were, yeah. Sex seems really boring to me, I'd rather just hug or hold hands or something. Asexuals are supposedly only one percent of the population or so (though I personally think it's a bit higher than that) and there aren't many others who would be willing to be in a romantic relationship without the sexual aspect so it would be difficult to find someone to be with.

What does the personal ad look like, by the way?

Well why don't you find yourself a nice asexual gay man? You've been to Aven right?

[Ciarquin]

Well why don't you find yourself a nice asexual gay man? You've been to Aven right?

Yep. If I were looking for a relationship I guess it would be possible to find someone online, I suppose. I've seen some asexual dating sites around, actually. Starting a relationship online seems really difficult, though... Being really shy doesn't exactly help with that.

[Rhye]

I like my vagina. The male parts would be preferable of course, but I can work with what I've got.

Still I'm hesitant.

I've been with a girl. It ended because I can't be a lesbian. I'm not interested in lesbian sex, and I'm not interested in being anything like a lesbian. If I was a cisgendered guy, I could be with girls, but it ain't happening.

And I like guys, but I've never been with one. I want to try hetero sex with a guy before I transition, if the opportunity arises. If it turns out that I don't like it like I thought I would, then I can lay aside my doubts about relationships, because the sex part won't matter to me as much.

But until I get this sorted out, I'm just going to keep on doubting. I'm not sure I can be a gay guy if nobody wants my vagina.

[Elwood]

I like my vagina. The male parts would be preferable of course, but I can work with what I've got.

Still I'm hesitant.

I've been with a girl. It ended because I can't be a lesbian. I'm not interested in lesbian sex, and I'm not interested in being anything like a lesbian. If I was a cisgendered guy, I could be with girls, but it ain't happening.

And I like guys, but I've never been with one. I want to try hetero sex with a guy before I transition, if the opportunity arises. If it turns out that I don't like it like I thought I would, then I can lay aside my doubts about relationships, because the sex part won't matter to me as much.

But until I get this sorted out, I'm just going to keep on doubting. I'm not sure I can be a gay guy if nobody wants my vagina.

Weird. I know it's possible for a transguy to like his girly parts... I personally can't comprehend the idea.

My mom said I should "test drive" my female sex organs before I give them up. I think that's a really shallow reason to have sex. I won't have sex just to "test" if I'm really a guy. Besides, being a guy is more than about having sex like a guy.

[Mister]

I like my vagina. The male parts would be preferable of course, but I can work with what I've got.

Still I'm hesitant.

I've been with a girl. It ended because I can't be a lesbian. I'm not interested in lesbian sex, and I'm not interested in being anything like a lesbian. If I was a cisgendered guy, I could be with girls, but it ain't happening.

And I like guys, but I've never been with one. I want to try hetero sex with a guy before I transition, if the opportunity arises. If it turns out that I don't like it like I thought I would, then I can lay aside my doubts about relationships, because the sex part won't matter to me as much.

But until I get this sorted out, I'm just going to keep on doubting. I'm not sure I can be a gay guy if nobody wants my vagina.

Weird. I know it's possible for a transguy to like his girly parts... I personally can't comprehend the idea.

My mom said I should "test drive" my female sex organs before I give them up. I think that's a really shallow reason to have sex. I won't have sex just to "test" if I'm really a guy. Besides, being a guy is more than about having sex like a guy.

Is the 'weird' really necessary here?  I'm hardly admiring my vagina in a hand mirror a la 70's feminism, but I don't particularly mind it.  I even enjoy penetration on occasion, which my girlfriend is totally fine and comfortable with.  Sure, I could sit here and lament that I don't have a penis of typical size and function, but what good would that do me?  Personally, if something feels good sexually and is mutually enjoyable for my partner and I, I'm going to do it.

[Rhye]

Yeah, I can understand how it'd be weird to some guys. I can't see a bioguy without a penis being anything but distraught about it. But I'm not a bioguy. I can be a guy with a girl's parts. For now I'm okay with it.

Sure, I could sit here and lament that I don't have a penis of typical size and function, but what good would that do me?  Personally, if something feels good sexually and is mutually enjoyable for my partner and I, I'm going to do it.

My thoughts exactly!

[Elwood]

I guess that only really works if you're a man who likes vaginal penetration. :/ Many of us guys here don't enjoy being poked in a hole that shouldn't even really be there.

[Mister]

That's one of those things you don't know 'til you try. Being born female, our bodies are built to get sexual pleasure from vaginal penetration.  I can only fight biology so much, y'know?

[Rhye]

That's what I was saying, Mister. I won't know unless I try, so why not try? To me, it's better than nothing. I would probably die from frustration and pent-up energy if I completely ignored everything down there.

[Elwood]

That's one of those things you don't know 'til you try. Being born female, our bodies are built to get sexual pleasure from vaginal penetration.  I can only fight biology so much, y'know?

I might not have had sex, but I have tried to make vaginal masturbation work many times when I was horny. It doesn't work. You really shouldn't strut around telling transmen that they're "designed' to have sex like a woman. :/ Sort of defeats the purpose of transition in a lot of ways.

And yes, my masturbation is no different than a girl pegging you with a strap on. Maybe this would get somewhere if you were being penetrated by a man regularly.

[Rhye]

That's too bad. I hope you find something that works for you. Maybe it'll get better once you're in transition?

[Elwood]

That's too bad. I hope you find something that works for you. Maybe it'll get better once you're in transition?

I don't think anything will make me want to be penetrated in the vagina. I don't get why it's so hard for you guys to grasp that. Most FtMs I've met do not like vaginal penetration. Are we on two different planets here?

[Rhye]

It's not hard for me to grasp, I said I understood a few posts back.

Yeah, I can understand how it'd be weird to some guys. I can't see a bioguy without a penis being anything but distraught about it.

I was expressing hope that you would find something that works for you.

Sorry.

[Mister]

That's one of those things you don't know 'til you try. Being born female, our bodies are built to get sexual pleasure from vaginal penetration.  I can only fight biology so much, y'know?

I might not have had sex, but I have tried to make vaginal masturbation work many times when I was horny. It doesn't work. You really shouldn't strut around telling transmen that they're "designed' to have sex like a woman. :/ Sort of defeats the purpose of transition in a lot of ways.

And yes, my masturbation is no different than a girl pegging you with a strap on. Maybe this would get somewhere if you were being penetrated by a man regularly.

Just 'cause you're getting done in the front hole doesn't mean you're having sex like a woman.  I bet there isn't a transguy on the planet who hasn't longed to have his clitoris sucked and licked.  Call it a penis all you want, it's your clit. Maybe it makes you sleep through the night or whatever, but there does need to be a bit of reality here. Your logic implies oral sex performed on a clitoris of a transman is having sex as a woman, when the actual act is nearly identical, especially pre-T.

And pegging implies anal sex, which I haven't brought up here. 

[Elwood]

It is how a woman has sex. Only a person with female parts can do it.

And duh, I would enjoy EXTERNAL pleasure. I'm not a moron. That's not the same thing as vaginal penetration. In case you forgot, your clitoris is not your vagina. I am not one of the guys who "believes" my clitoris is a penis. I don't say, "but they're the same organ." But if calling it a penis is easier for people to understand, instead of saying, "I'm a man with a clit" or "peeing through my clit itches" (since normal clits can't pee, so it's confusing to say it that way) then I will call it a penis. I'm not going to strut around lying to myself or others, but I'm not going to go out of my way to say, "Yeah, I was born a woman." Maybe you like saying that, and having sex like a woman, but not every transguy feels that way.

My logic had nothing to do with the clitoris. An inlarged clitoris takes the form of a penis when it grows. It looks like a micropenis which one in 200 men have.

And no, I don't have oral sex. I don't have any sex. So don't try to "narrow it down" and prove that I have woman sex. Because I don't.

Pegging is not always anal. Pegging is using a strap on to penetrate someone.


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