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Started by suregirl, August 11, 2008, 07:56:33 AM

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suregirl

A good friend and myself where talking about my Transsexuality and she asked me why I thought I am Transsexual,I replied that Its my belive that it occured in the womb...she then said "Do you not think it might be because your mum really wanted a girl"?   This totally made me speechless as I was adopted and dont know my real mum to ask!!!...What do you folk think?,Is that possible?....Its just something I had never ever thought of!! x
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Janet_Girl

Well I too am adopted and I have no idea what my birth Mother wanted.  I do know that my parents just wanted a healthy baby.  So why the hell couldn't I have been born a healthy baby girl. GRRRRRRR

Mistress Janet
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NicholeW.

I know Mom wanted a girl. She told me.

Did the "power" of her wanting cause me to be me? That's a bit harder to nail down, Suregirl.

But, sounds like as good an etiology as any other. Some people will definitely scoff at the "science," though.

Nichole
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April221

When I was a teen, my mother and I sat down and had a little talk, during which she explained that when I was born, she thought that she had a son. She was profoundly disappointed as she went on to explain that she was wrong.
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Northern Jane

I was adopted, the first of two, so I have no doubt they expected a boy. From the amount and severity of the abuse I took for nearly 20 years, I KNOW my mother wanted a boy and was NOT going to accept a girl - she didn't - she disowned me.
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soldierjane

Quote from: suregirl on August 11, 2008, 07:56:33 AM
A good friend and myself where talking about my Transsexuality and she asked me why I thought I am Transsexual,I replied that Its my belive that it occured in the womb...she then said "Do you not think it might be because your mum really wanted a girl"?   This totally made me speechless as I was adopted and dont know my real mum to ask!!!...What do you folk think?,Is that possible?....Its just something I had never ever thought of!! x

I doubt that it has anything to do with it as my mom wanted a boy and only started to like having daughter after my transitioning but it's a cute idea :)
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mickie88

ok i'm NOT adopted, and yes my estranged mother did want a girl, she fought my dad's mom tooth and nail about. i made grandma happy when i was born but i've never been able to please my female parent and there are some days i wished i had been put up for adoption....life has moved on...


Warrior Princess Mickie
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Nero

Hmm I was the firstborn so I don't think they cared either way. They may have longed for a boy with my sisters before they were born cause they kept having girls but nothing's ever been expressed about it.

As to the theory, I don't think the mother's desire can alter the chemistry in the womb or anything and 'make' a transsexual but a boy could turn out more feminine if he were treated and looked at as a girl by his folks, I suppose.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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tekla

Its my belive that it occured in the womb

Well a belief does not make science.  Science you got to prove.  Could it have mattered?  Sure, why not, I think the mind has the power to change reality.  But is it a valid fact.  Not yet.
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pretty pauline

Quote from: suregirl on August 11, 2008, 07:56:33 AM
A good friend and myself where talking about my Transsexuality and she asked me why I thought I am Transsexual,I replied that Its my belive that it occured in the womb...she then said "Do you not think it might be because your mum really wanted a girl"?   This totally made me speechless as I was adopted and dont know my real mum to ask!!!...What do you folk think?,Is that possible?....Its just something I had never ever thought of!! x

I'v thought about this many times over the years, I believe there could be some truth in this.
I can only speak of my own situation, I was the youngest of 4boys, my Mother desperately wanted a daughter, before I was born my parents where going to adopt a girl, then my Mother got pregnant, she really thought this was the long awaited daughter, had all the baby clothes and then I came along, she was bitterly disappointed.
Fast forward 16years, during those 16years always felt I was a girl, then when I was 16 I finally came out, thats when I learned all this ''family history'' my Mother was overjoyed, was very supportive and forcefull with my transition.
It was my Mam who decided when I was 18, that I go fulltime, I always regret I never had a sister to advise me on ''girl stuff'' but my Mother's disire for a daughter, made up for all that.
My Mother finally organised my srs surgery in 1985, I was now finally her words ''complete and real daughter''
I wasn't pushy on srs at the time, but Mam was very anxious that I have srs, particularly as I had everything else done FFS, breast aug etc, so srs just completed my transition, was painful at the time, but I'v not regrets, Im now a complete woman, but I do wonder about this theory in early life.
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If your going thru hell, just keep going.
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Kimberly

Here, a bit of "personal belief"; If I have my sums right, my first iteration of this life was as a girl, which was my choice. Being girl had actually been the de facto standard for me for the last few lives as far as I am aware. Massive put on the breaks and go back an be boy because that is what I agreed to for this life. The "scientific" footing for this belief, the child before me was aborted. Proof? Naw, but it also doesn't invalidate my understanding either, which predates learning of the child before for whatever that is worth.
*shrug*

In essence I think it was more my choice than me Mum&Dad.
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Jamie-o

Well, my mom really, really wanted a girl.  That's what makes it so hard to come out to her.  :(
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Scotty72

My mom really didn't care, but my dad would have died to have a son.  He even had the name picked out and was planning our first camping trip and everything like that.  My mom was actually pregnant with a boy but he was a stillborn.  Then my sister came along and then finally me.  And everyone thought I was a boy in the womb.  My parents didn't have the money for a sonogram, so they just went by the natural signs that the doctor told them about.  Like, faster heart beat, belly hanging lower (or higher?) than it would if I was a girl.  None of its really acurate but still...  I was passing as a guy before I even popped out of the womb.
Gone Fishing
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Elwood

My mom wanted a girl and she got one. :/ A female, anyway. Now she's devastated that I'm taking her "princess" away from her.
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deviousxen

My moms finally over the mourning stage or whatever.

I honestly don't know if my mom ever preferred a gender for a kid, but it is like a family curse that no girls had been born on my dads side for generations. Like... The entire tree I think. I'm like the seventh of my birthname... DX


So I sometimes wonder if I'm the one meant to kill the cycle or curse, or that they were wrong giving me the patriarchs name. *sigh*

I was the first born. My mom is a walking talking hormone sometimes. Maybe her estrogen DID spike or something. -_-

W/e

She had a miscarriage years ago when I was 6 or something with a girl.  That was a hard diner I guess. I sometimes wonder if I'm the one whos supposed to play that role that was lost when I was a tiny kid. The role of that daughter that was lost or something.

Whatever...

-Xen
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Ms Bev

#15
The reason, I believe, that we are transsexual is that diversity is what drives evolution.  There is a natural curve of diversity of gender, just as there is of sex, and just as there is of everything else,  such as eye color, how long or short my fingers are, to whether or not I can curl or roll my tongue.

We are diverse in many ways, and this is what keeps us alive as a species (so far).
Everywhere you look you find diversity.  You find diversity in the animate, as well as the inanimate.  You can line up a whole gradient of change or difference in just about anything.  *smile*.....I'm imagining an endless line of purple petunias, each darker than the one before it (Even though it is preferential, I tend to like the ones at each end of the gradient the most.....the least purple, and the most purple). 
It's how the world works, I believe.
So, lay claim to your legitimacy.  You are a precious marvel.  You are one of the 'different' ones.


Bev,
evolutionary creationist
1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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LanieB

Quote from: suregirl on August 11, 2008, 07:56:33 AM
"Do you not think it might be because your mum really wanted a girl"?   This totally made me speechless as I was adopted

Hi there! I'm a birth mother as well as an adoptive mother so I can speak about this from that perspective. I have two spectacular sons, now adults, who bring such joy to my life! So, having given birth to one of them, I can say that if wanting things for your in utero baby made it so, all babies would be high achieving people with spectacular careers taking great care of their mothers. No one ever wishes for a baby with a birth defect. The "if she wanted a girl" theory might mean that if your child has a cleft palate or something, the mom wanted that. See how this doesn't fit together very well. Also, in this modern world, let's examine the "my mom was under a lot of stress" theory: by this theory half the world would be transgen. Stress is a fact of modern life. It was also a factor in the "old days."

No, honey, the "birthmother wanted a gir" theory doesn't hold up too well.

Love to you, and a hug,
LanieB
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