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KIDS - reasons you don't have em, reasons you don't want em

Started by Nero, August 15, 2008, 08:03:01 AM

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tekla

Of all the decisions I've ever made in my life, having kids was one of the few I don't regret.

But, its not a road for selfish people.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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tinkerbell

I'm rather confused.  Is this thread for people who DON'T want to have children for X reasons or for those who DO have children and want to praise them?

tink :icon_chick:
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Northern Jane

I LOVE[/i] kids and dreamed of having a family - it was the thing I wanted most in life!

By 14 I knew I wouldn't have kids of my own but that didn't rule out adopting but because my sister and I were raised in an abusive home and I knew the damage that causes, I swore I would never bring children in to a less than healthy and loving home.

I married first at 26, what seemed like the answer to all my prayers, but that started going down the tubes right from the beginning. I married again at 30 and I knew my husband had "anger issues". By the time they got sorted out, I could see that marriage was headed for trouble. I was in my mid-40's when that ended and just never met anyone else. You could say my biological clock ran out.

Not having children was/is the biggest (and only) regret of my life.
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fae_reborn

Quote from: Nichole on August 15, 2008, 10:54:53 AM
Children are a blessing, to me. Others don't feel the same way and shouldn't. If you haven't the patience or desire do not have children. They require time and love, not resentment and impatience.

There are plenty of unloved people in the world now; why would anyone add to that number?

Nichole

I have to agree with Nichole, I think children are a blessing too.  Yes, sometimes they're difficult but that's part of the package.  I'd love to be a mother one day, but I'll have to adopt.  I think it's best that way, there's plenty of children out there who need good parents and a home, and lots of love.

I get sad sometimes since I can't give birth, but *sigh* I can't change that.  What I can do is, if I can find the strength and the money, is try to make a positive impact on a child's life by giving them a home and a family.

Quote from: Tink on August 15, 2008, 08:42:30 PM
I'm rather confused.  Is this thread for people who DON'T want to have children for X reasons or for those who DO have children and want to praise them?

tink :icon_chick:

I'm not sure Tink, I think it's the former, but I just wanted to put my two cents in.  ;D

Jenn
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Christo

I like kids alot but dont wanna have any. I got enough nephews & nieces already :laugh: Maybe when I'm older. I dunno. Dont think I can be a good dad for now b/c I got other plans, other stuff to think about.   Kids gotta have what there parents didnt have so if u got other stuff goin on in ur life, school plans, transition, enjoyin ur love life ;) :D & cant give kids what they need, dont have any.
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lisagurl

QuoteBut, its not a road for selfish people.

That sums it up. Children require you to put their lives above your own. They make you laugh and cry better than the most fantastic movie. The thing is, it never ending, requires a lot of work, and you can not turn it off. They are there for life.
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lacitychick21

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on August 15, 2008, 08:17:12 PM
I think I always thought of them as a trap...

OMG! What an awful thing to say!

I love kids. When my sister -- uhmmm -- dropped of her children with me for about a year (and even, later, asked me to adopt her then-new born), I was totally willing and ready. I guess, after becoming sexually active at a relatively young age, I took every precaution not to have kids because I knew I'd never be able to transition if I did. Now, this is only my personal convictions and beliefs, but I always felt kids were this responsibility on a completely different level. I always felt they require a dedication no nonparent could know. That, as a result of taking on the responsibility of having kids, they are forever first priority in your life above even yourself and that kids need a father figure. I, personally, wouldn't transition for my kids' sake if I had them. It was a complete and total impossibility.

It was fear of that that for me, made me take the necessary steps to not have kids.
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Shana A

When I was younger I thought if I ever wanted to have kids it would be later in life, if at all. 12 years ago at age 40 I moved in my partner and her 5 year old daughter, and that was my first experience as a parent. It's been wonderful, and she just left for college today, wow!  ;D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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cindybc

Well I do love children, and I had the opportunity to have had 11 of them go under my roof through the years, yep cook, bottle washer and diaper changer. Only three of them were my own, lost my son back in 2000 to drugs and alcohol, yea but it wasn't the drugs and alcohol directly that got him let us sufice to say one night he chose to cross the highway at the wrong time. The last three children I had in my care was 7 years ago, my first year full time. I would still love to have children in my care.

Cindy
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Scotty72

I'm still pretty young in the sense that I don't want to be a kid raising a kid.  My cousin was only 18 when He got his girlfriend (who was 14) pregnant with their first child.  That wasn't the right thing to do because they were still kids and still wanted to do childish things, like waist all of their money on video games and go hanging out with their friends instead of taking care of their child.  Even now, when my cousin is 23(ish?) and his now EX wife is 20 and they have 2 kids, they still dont take care of them and still hand them off to anyone they can unload them to.  Its sad and I would never want that for a child.

And I do want to have at least one child when I'm older, (27ish sounds good to me), but right now I want to grow up a little and live my life.  My girlfriend who I have been dating for a little over a year now does want children and she does want to give birth to them, (Addoption is like a big NONO to her).  Unfortunatly she kind of wants me to get used to the idea of kids NOW and not ten years down the road.  But she'll be 21 soon so I guess her biological clock started ticking while mine is still like "... No... let me go back to sleep."

Then there's the whole issue of 'How do you tell your kids that their daddy used to be a girl'?  Thats kind of a big issue for me even though I would never put a single ignorant or hateful thought in my child's mind.  However, I would most likely spoil the little bugger to death...
Gone Fishing
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Ciarquin

I've never wanted kids, I've always been very sure of that. It's not because of all the messy stuff that some have mentioned (though the screaming I probably couldn't handle) you have to deal with that when you have dogs too, and I love dogs.

Having children is supposed to be the loveliest thing a person can do, but I've never seen any appeal in it. It also feels like you wouldn't even have any time to spend with them if they're going to be forced into kindergarten when they're barely one year old, and then there's school. To me it seems like a lot of parents don't even know their kids nowadays because they're too busy to be together. :-\

Quote from: lacitychick21 on August 16, 2008, 10:30:28 AM
Quote from: MeghanAndrews on August 15, 2008, 08:17:12 PM
I think I always thought of them as a trap...
OMG! What an awful thing to say!
I don't think it's awful to feel that way. Not everyone likes children and some do feel like they would trap them somehow.
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mr_marc

Havent got kids, and i dont want them.
Also knowing i won't be able to have them.
Which is kinda good, dont like them lol.
Plus having a kid in my position or any one in this would be hard on the kid.
I know of one person, like this. Who's kid doesnt speak to them any more.
Because they see it as loosing a parent.
So ive made the choice never to have them because alls i can think of is.
Imagine the bullying they'd get.
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Elwood

I love children. But I keep remembering their college fund... dear God. Kids are expensive.

I wish very deeply that I could be a father. I never can biologically, so I'll do the next best thing. I will probably adopt, if I don't get together with someone who already has children.
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cindybc

QuoteIt also feels like you wouldn't even have any time to spend with them if they're going to be forced into kindergarten when they're barely one year old, and then there's school. To me it seems like a lot of parents don't even know their kids nowadays because they're too busy to be together.

Unfortunately that is just too many times the case. Both parents are working and don't have time to spend with the children, thus the kids mostly grow up on their own and in many cases on the street.

Raising children is a big responsibility and should be thought out seriously before one decides to bring one into this world, unless they're ready to take on the responsibility. As for screaming children? Goodness, it never bothered me any, unless it was the type of screaming you would hear as a result of hair-pulling.

If you love children you find ways to work around the rough edges of child rearing, like turning a hair pulling session into some type of shared occupation, with some type of board game, or how about drawing, or telling them a story. Honest to goodness, I believe that as unfortunate and as sad as it may be, it appears that children today seem to have forgotten how use their own mind, their own ingenuity or imagination to entertain themselves.

I was lucky, I worked at a job that only took me away from the house for four to five hours a day max. I was home to send them off to school and I was home when they got back from school, doing the cooking scrubbing and cleaning and giving the kids their bath. Then there was also the usual home maintenance which involved a hammer and nails or a pipe wrench or working on my back in the mud to fix a bloody leaking pipe. Thank goodness I was still able to do my own mechanical repairs to my car in the back yard then. But still I made the time to spend with the kids.

The hardest part for me was to watch the last three children I had in my care get into their aunt's car and disappear, never to be seen again.

Cindy
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Janet_Girl

It is strange to see people not wanting children, but to each their own.  One thing that my ex and I had in common was what we both wanted to be when we grew up.
Both of us wanted to be a wife and a mother, but she never knew it and if she did she would be horrified. She never could except me for me.

Janet
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tekla

I guess I feel two ways about this.

One.  Please spare me your whiny self-centered reasons why getting on with your career is more important than having kids - and later, your whiny "I sure wish I had had kids" when its too late to do so.

Two.  Please spare me your whiny little kids.  Really.  I've had two.  That's enough of them in my life.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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cindybc

Hi, Janet, I agree with you, but if you go back and reread the posts from page one you will find a couple of posters who gave the reason as to why they chose not to have children. They were those who were aware of who they were, transsexual, and had already planned their journey into transition. In that way I agree they made the right decision. For the most part many of the TS folks here who have started transitioning are young folks and I believe that after they have gone through transitioning they can then make a decision as to whether they want children, like adopting them, or joining in partnership with another who already has children.  At any rate they will still be young and having an early start at establishing themselves in the system.

Cindy   
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Janet_Girl

Cindy,
Oh, I understand their reasons and I applaud them for their choices not to have kids.  It is better to have children when they are wanted.  I guess I have always had a maternal instinct.

I have had friends that waited until later in life to start a family.  I wasn't one of them.  My oldest son was born when I was 18.  My daughter a year later.  by the time I was 21 I was divorced and could not see them, a very long story.

Janet
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myles

I have kids and love them, always wanted them and glad I did. But I respect people who say they don't want them. I think its great that people have the chance to decide ahead of time and make a decision at that point instead of having them and deciding its not thier cup of tea. Hurts the kids as much as the parents.
Choices are a great thing!
Myles
"A life lived in fear is a life half lived"
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DeValInDisguise

It took me a while to figure it out, but the reason I never had kids was because I couldn't bear them.  The thought of getting someone pregnant was very difficult to take - especially after doing it once by accident.  If I could have gotten pregnant I would have, though.

Huh, thinking about it that way makes me realize why I always hated couples who said "We're pregnant!".

Val
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