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How early did you know of/display your true gender?

Started by Nero, September 27, 2008, 04:05:34 PM

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How early were you aware of and/or outwardly displayed your true gender?

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Nero

How early were you aware of and/or display your true gender?

At what age were you aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

And/or at what age were the adults in your life aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Pica Pica

i only discovered that my identity existed last year.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Elwood

"Display" on my male gender started around 7 or 8. Open "cross dressing," purposefully trying to look like a boy.

"Crossgender" feelings around that age as well. I was androgynous at a very young age, so I think in reality I was always a form of transgender "aware."

My parents never acknowledged it. But my mom says I've "always been a tomboy." That's her way of saying that she's always been aware of my "crossgender" feelings/behaviors.

I really KNEW I was a guy about... 7 or 8 months ago? Before I thought I was just "pretending" to be a guy. I started very openly "crossdressing" (suits, button down shirts, more boy stuff etc) when I was 17. I'm 18 now.
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Nero

Quote from: Elwood on September 27, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
"Display" on my male gender started around 7 or 8. Open "cross dressing," purposefully trying to look like a boy.

"Crossgender" feelings around that age as well. I was androgynous at a very young age, so I think in reality I was always a form of transgender "aware."

My parents never acknowledged it. But my mom says I've "always been a tomboy." That's her way of saying that she's always been aware of my "crossgender" feelings/behaviors.

makes sense. parents always have their way of justifying a child's behaviour to themselves.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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trapthavok

Somewhere between the ages of 7 and 8 when I dropped the girly pretense and began dressing like a boy, playing with action figures and video games.

I think when I was younger though it first began surfacing....My earliest memory of identifying with a boy name has always been at age 5 when I used to sign my middle name as "Max" on all my kindergarten assignments.

There were signs along the way I'm sure but since the age of 8 I've always been mom's "tomboy" and "the son my dad never had." Yes, I called myself that.
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Elwood

Quote from: trapthavok on September 27, 2008, 04:36:56 PMSomewhere between the ages of 7 and 8 when I dropped the girly pretense and began dressing like a boy, playing with action figures and video games.
I forgot to mention that.

I played with action figures since I was really little. I really liked army men. I also had a favorite Batman figure. I played the original Mario Bros. since I was 2 or 3, I think. Pretty much as soon as I was big enough to hold a controller.
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Flan Princess

I've always thought myself as being different from the "normal" children and yet not sure of what I was at the same time. Unfortunately, it took until well after the poison cursed my body before I was able to pin a name on what I am.
Now stuck with a decade-plus of damage, it's either choosing between "acquiring" grey market drugs while trying to save money (while unemployed) for surgery, and eating a bullet. :eusa_wall:
I think the best choice is obvious ;)
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Elwood

Quote from: Flan Princess on September 27, 2008, 04:48:24 PMI've always thought myself as being different from the "normal" children and yet not sure of what I was at the same time.
I experienced that, too. But a lot was different about me besides being transgender. I was premature, with divorced parents, didn't have a lot of money, was always the smallest/weakest, among other things.

(Note: These are my experiences, I'm not trying to invalidate yours.)
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Northern Jane

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
How early were you aware of and/or display your true gender?

Earliest childhood.

QuoteAt what age were you aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

i didn't know there was anything wrong until age 8.

QuoteAnd/or at what age were the adults in your life aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

Probably from childhood; but I started hearing about it around age 5 and being punished for it.
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
How early were you aware of and/or display your true gender?

I knew I ought to have been born a girl exactly as long as I've known there is a meaningful difference between boys and girls ... maybe 5 years old?

It's only more recently that I realized how much of an emotional dead end my male persona is.

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At what age were you aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

About age six or seven was when I started to feel very strongly how much I was missing out on the childhood I ought to have had. It was a complete epiphany, a light being switched on. I think I actually got a bit lightheaded. I just don't remember exactly how old I was when it happened.

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And/or at what age were the adults in your life aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

No later than 13, at least with respect to my parents. They actually tried to be supportive ... but generally failed. :( Their words might have meant more  if they hadn't been so obviously horror-stricken. Way to make me feel like a complete freak, guys. :'(
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

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Pica Pica

my behaviour and actions and stuff has never really changed, only my own interpretation and confidence in those actions has changed.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Pica Pica on September 27, 2008, 06:06:46 PM
my behaviour and actions and stuff has never really changed, only my own interpretation and confidence in those actions has changed.

Exactly, me too. Well alright I take that back, sorta. I went through a 'girly' phase in Jr. High. That was the only other time I acted different from my norm, otherwise I've always been the same.
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vanna

it was about 4 for me, i was dressing in mums stuff at around five and playing with a local girl who let me dress in her clothing and mums makeup when i was 8 most of the time.

Dressing fulltime by 15 when i was kicked onto the streets but didnt address GID until i was 34...ouch better late than never

Vanna
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sneakersjay

I remember knowing I was different around age 4, always tomboyish.  I do remember a tantrum I threw at age 3 about not wanting to wear a dress and getting spanked for it.  By the time I was 8 or so I dressed like a boy if possible (hard to do in the 60s with only sisters), used the men's room in stores, told people in Bible school (made to go every summer) I was a boy, brought army men to girl scouts, stuff like that.

Jay


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Sephirah

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
How early were you aware of and/or display your true gender?

Aware of... I would guess around 14. At least, I knew something wasn't right a long time before that, but either didn't care or didn't really have too much gender influence in my life to put a name to what I was feeling. As for displaying... I've done that all my life, in terms of behaviour and the way I express myself since I can't be anything else. And have always been seen as an outsider and a 'weirdo' because of it. Which is probably because physically... I don't. Through a mixture of circumstances that aren't conducive... and (sometimes) very difficult self-restraint.

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At what age were you aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

About the same time I began to care about what gender actually was, which is about the same age as above. Before that I was totally apathetic and neutral. Living in a house with two brothers, I thought there was something wrong with my brain because I didn't act the same way as they did, and where I lived there was no education about anything to do with gender issues whatsoever. Either you were a 'bloke', a 'bird' or a 'freak'. I thought I was the last one.

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And/or at what age were the adults in your life aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?

My father left when I was 6 years old. One of my brothers died when I was 24, my mother died when I was 25. All before I either admitted to myself who I was, or before I attempted to explain why I was an outsider and 'different'. My mother was an only child, so I don't have a lot of extended family, no grandparents, and don't see any on my father's side. So... I don't really have a whole lot of adults left in my life that I care about or see enough to say anything to.

My other brother and his demented wife... not a chance. And I want it to stay that way for as long as possible. They aren't the sort of people that would either understand or be able to stop themselves from making my life a nightmare just for fun, and probably out of hatred.

All the important people in my life, the ones I care about, they all know. Although that was only a recent thing since before I could admit it to anyone else, I had to admit it to myself.
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almost,angie

 In pre school i realized something was off when I got kicked out of the sand box for not being a girl. They said " you can`t play with us you are not a girl". I didn`t want to play with the boys so I just sat alone and played by myself. :'(  I had a girl friend neer my house that I used to play dolls and dress up with but that all ended when her family saw me and laughed at me for wearing a dress. looking back, live was really frustrating. I was punished for being me. Part of the reason I held out till I was 36 to transition.
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Aiden

Started displaying around age 5, age 7 grandmother said I was a tomboy and I took it as what I was.

Age 10 I begain to have distress over changing body (early puberty)

Age 13 had shut it out and tried to be more female but couldn't shut it out entirely.

Age 17, began to question around time had reduction surgery.  Found myself talking with friends about how I felt I didn't fit as a girl and felt more a boy.  Same time couldn't fit with boys because was a girl.

Age 20, Began to learn about transgender but still not know what it was.

21, began to associate self in relation to other transgender people still not knowing they are transgender or what it was exactly.  Thought I might been lesbian but wasn't that attracted to girls.

10 months ago heard the term transgender, started to really bug me, then about 5-6 months ago I finally started to research it and everything clicked into place.   I still struggle with it sometimes though because I don't fit the sterotypes and sometimes it can be difficult to separate sterotypes from reality.
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Hypatia

I have difficulty picking a specific radio button on this poll. For me the question isn't so simple.

I was manifesting cross-gender behavior as early as the age of 4, when I first began preschool. I felt impelled to align with the girls by inner urges that I did not know how to consciously articulate or understand at the time. I grew up always feeling uncomfortable, with a sense that I was a misfit, but unable to articulate to myself exactly why-- largely because of fear, and because nothing in my upbringing allowed any awareness of gender issues. You just did what you were told, or suffered punishment. As it was, I suffered plenty for not fitting in with the boys and constantly needing to align with the girls, let alone pursuing that issue in any depth. The authority figures maintained strict denial of that, and I wasn't bold enough to challenge the system, so I was coerced into denial too. I always hated the male roles imposed on me, and yearned for the feminine, but felt forced into denial.

In retrospect, I always felt drawn to model my life on that of my sister, so that I quietly absorbed as much as I could of her girlhood, vicariously and secretly, to avoid reprimands. I read her books, played her girly games and dolls, attended her tea parties and her Girl Scout meetings. I wore her dress when I was 10, and liked it, but only one time because I was afraid of being caught. My full awareness of who I was only evolved gradually over the years, to the extent I was able to get past the denial, and it wasn't until I was in college that I realized I should have been a woman. But it took many more years before I stopped burying the desire by telling myself it was impossible, and embraced my reality.

So these issues are not necessarily clearcut. My self-knowledge and actions are in bits and pieces spread out here and there throughout my lifetime, and it was only later in life that I was able to put all the pieces together, when in retrospect it all added up to clarity about who I had always been inside. And how through childhood trauma I had deeply buried so many pieces of evidence that when taken cumulatively in the full light, made it clear who I really am.

The standard, classical transsexual narrative has us all getting up on soapboxes from the age of 3 and proclaiming our true genders to the world in no uncertain terms. But I feel that stereotype does a disservice to those of us who lacked the boldness to challenge the system though we always knew inside something was different. We don't all have to fit exactly the same model to be accepted as legit.

As I've answered before to this question, the answer I could give might be age 4, 10, 22, 37, 43, or 45-- depending on how the awareness of this condition is defined. I spent most of my life deep in denial of this reality thanks to the trauma around it from early childhood.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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icontact

How early were you aware of and/or display your true gender?
--My parents dressed me in boy clothing since I was 5, because they were conservative like that, but I always tried to be the girly girl because I thought my clothing was why I had no real friends. I got tired of doing that around 6th grade, so I voted 11-13yrs.

At what age were you aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?
--Kindof an iffy question. I knew I acted like a boy since forever, but I took that as being a tomboy, getting dirty, playing sports, yadada.

And/or at what age were the adults in your life aware of your 'crossgender' feelings/behaviours?
--Same as above, nobody really took it as a transgender thing, they just figured I was the stereotypical tomboy. In middle/early high school people took it as a butch lesbian thing. Sophomore year in high school I started binding, got tired of hiding the gender thing and just let myself act like a boy because I didn't care whether people suspected or not anymore. Since then I routinely get the "you're such a GUY" line.
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Ender

Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2008, 04:16:38 PM
makes sense. parents always have their way of justifying a child's behaviour to themselves.

My mom told me that she herself started dressing in a more masculine fashion as I was growing up to, and I quote, "make you look more normal."  Wow.  She also said that now that she knows about me, she can start dressing in a more feminine fashion, like she used to do (she's a self-proclaimed 'girly girl') and which she prefers.

I voted ages 5-7, because I was first aware that something was different about me when I entered kindergarten at age 5.
"Be it life or death, we crave only reality"  -Thoreau
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