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Your opinion: good state to live for a transsexual

Started by goingdown, October 12, 2008, 05:11:52 AM

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What state do you consider a good place to liver for a transsexual?

I do not know
4 (16%)
No state
0 (0%)
Vermont
1 (4%)
New York
2 (8%)
Michigan
0 (0%)
Minnesota
0 (0%)
Hawaii
0 (0%)
California
13 (52%)
Oregon
2 (8%)
Illinois
1 (4%)
Georgia
0 (0%)
Other. What?
2 (8%)

Total Members Voted: 11

goingdown

I have read about writings in ''Where to live?''. No I post this little poll just for people to give a fast way to share their opinion.
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kae m

Diversity is pretty much the key for me.  Either some place with a large academic population, or a hub city with lots of different people coming and going.  It's easier to find interesting people that way.
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Cristasphoto

Ive Been ALL over this Country and lived in Cali fer 10 years...
Let me tell ya Heaven is the ONLY place where we really belong...
Cause society sucks
It ALWAYS HAS!!!!
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fae_reborn

Quote from: Cristasphoto on October 15, 2008, 11:39:51 PM
Ive Been ALL over this Country and lived in Cali fer 10 years...
Let me tell ya Heaven is the ONLY place where we really belong...
Cause society sucks
It ALWAYS HAS!!!!


I have to agree with your sentiment, anywhere you live there is bound to be problems. 

I voted for Vermont, though presently I live in NY.  NY doesn't have specific legal protections for us but it's OK depending on where you are.  Changing records here is a pain in the butt.  I plan on relocating to Vermont because it's one of the few states that has legal protection specifically for TG/TS people, but also one of the states that allow concealed-carry for handguns...it's a quirky state but one of the best for us IMO.

Jenn
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IHPUN

Quote from: fae_reborn on October 16, 2008, 12:21:52 AM
I plan on relocating to Vermont because it's one of the few states that has legal protection specifically for TG/TS people, but also one of the states that allow concealed-carry for handguns...it's a quirky state but one of the best for us IMO.

If I'm not mistaken, most states allow concealed carry of handguns.  What's interesting about Vermont is that they allow concealed carry without a permit.  Despite this, they have one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.  Not that such gun laws magically cure crime.  The other state with similar laws, Alaska, has very high crime, including the highest rate of rape among the 50 states. 

Anyway, are Vermonters just non-violent people, or does the fact that law-abiding people could easily have weapons for self-defense deter crime?  Either way, members of a community that is at risk of violent attacks benefit.

Quirky states are generally the best, just like quirky people.   :P
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fae_reborn

Quote from: IHPUN on October 16, 2008, 02:10:30 AM
If I'm not mistaken, most states allow concealed carry of handguns.  What's interesting about Vermont is that they allow concealed carry without a permit.  Despite this, they have one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.  Not that such gun laws magically cure crime.  The other state with similar laws, Alaska, has very high crime, including the highest rate of rape among the 50 states. 

Anyway, are Vermonters just non-violent people, or does the fact that law-abiding people could easily have weapons for self-defense deter crime?  Either way, members of a community that is at risk of violent attacks benefit.

Quirky states are generally the best, just like quirky people.   :P

Yes that's what I meant, that they don't need a permit...I wasn't sure of the specifics, just knew that while Vermonters are generally open and accepting of difference, and very LTBG friendly, they're fairly conservative when it comes to gun rights.  Which makes them quirky.  Unfortunately the crime rate has gone up slightly, especially in Burlington, mostly theft and burglary, but overall it's a good state to live in.  I think that Vermonters are just law-abiding citizens who are taking responsibility for their personal defense.  Also, Vermont has a pretty large and organized LTBG community, and they do other activist things around women's issues and the environment.  One of the many reasons I plan on moving there,

Jenn
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TamTam

I voted for NY because NJ wasn't on the list.. ;) I divide my time between both states right now.  When I say NY, what I mean is NYC.. I have no clue about the rest of the state, in fact the rest of the state is relatively conservative, but NYC is so open and so diverse that I honestly cannot imagine a better single place to live, if money wasn't an issue.  I mean, goodness, we have a pride parade every year, gay couples can hold hands in the streets.. :D NJ, I'm not sold on, but the thing is that NJ has employment protection laws for transpeople that run much deeper than they do in NY, so I have to give it credit. :)

[I'm from northern NJ and going to school in NYC.]
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fae_reborn

Quote from: TamTam on October 16, 2008, 11:34:18 AM
When I say NY, what I mean is NYC.. I have no clue about the rest of the state, in fact the rest of the state is relatively conservative...

Some places in Upstate are conservative, and others are liberal.  Depends on where you are.  The mayor in my town right now is openly gay, and there are pride events up here too.  I haven't had any problems, most people have a 'live and let live' attitude up here, but it's hard to change records and cut through the red tape during transition b/c of the way the laws are.  I'd still say Vermont is the best.

Jenn
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Janet_Girl

Of course I voted for Oregon, for two reasons.  One, I live here and there are many businesses that are trans friendly and many support groups.  Two, State law prohibits discrimination against gender identity, as well as sexual orientation.

Plus where I live, I am hour from the mountains and two hours from the ocean.
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goingdown

From those nine states in five states work discrimination because of gender identity is forbidden:
Oregon, California, Minnesota, Illinois and Vermont. Michigan bans that only in state's jobs. New York city (not state) also bans discrimination due to gender identity. There are very few other states that ban work discrimination because of gender identity: Maine, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Washington, New Mexico, Iowa and Colorado. Some other states ban it only in state's jobs as Michigan including Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Kansas and Maryland.
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joannatsf

The fight over ENDA was of little consequence in California.  All the anti discrimination protections in the federal law are guaranteed under state law.  Legal change of gender is relatively simple here including a birth certificate for those fortunate enough to be born here.  I do live in San Francisco which is even more liberal but the state as a whole rocks!
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goingdown

I am not surprised that California and Oregon have been choiced. The Oregon anti-discrimination law is very new, from the last year. Maybe I should have placed Washington also as one option. But I have read that it is a lot about area in Oregon and Washington. Eastern parts of the both states are socially conservative. Because of lesser social problems Oregon and/or Washington maybe equal to California however the legal issues are not as good. Washington has reduced rights of transgendered people according to my knowledge in some issues like birthcertificate change.
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joannatsf

I think it's easier to be trans in some parts of Cali than others.  If you're in the major coastal cities like the LA Basin, the SF Bay Area, Sacramento or San Diego life can be quite simple.  I'm not so sure the same can be said of Fresno or Bakersfield.
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mickie88

i didn't vote because that state doesn't exist yet. and probably never will. sorry but i can only speak the truth, especially wheni come from the lowest state in the rankings--51st.


Warrior Princess Mickie
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Ms.Behavin

I live on the SF Bay and work in Napa.  Napa is pretty conservitive, So is my boss, Yet, I've not had one problem there.  The towns on the north bay side are not a problem for TS/TG.  Gee who would want to live in barkersfield anyway.  Only real problem is cost of housing, If you live in a house that is.

Having lived in Florida and Kansas, well they are way to the right of conservitive.  I moved from florida when I started to transistion, and california was the best place for me anyway.

Beni
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