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Is evolution responsible for women maturing faster than men?

Started by Nero, November 29, 2008, 06:53:14 AM

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Nero

So at the beginning of time, men and women were equally matched in maturity.
Then her biological clock began tick, so her body matured faster to compensate.
Because women matured faster, they became wives and mothers faster, thus the female mind accelerated to keep up.
That's why today women are light years ahead of us in maturity.

Any other ideas?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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lisagurl

QuoteAny other ideas?

Maturity does not have gender, just wisdom.
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sd

I blame beef hormones.
;D


Or maybe it's so they can deal with men being so silly.  :P
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tekla

I'm inclined to toss in ESPN there somewhere too.  Men relaxed, women evolved.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Sarah

Actually, according to my spouse who is well knowledgeable on all things genetics; the male gene is dying out generationally in humans.
Eventually there won't be any males at all and there will only be females that can reproduce and fertilize themselves.

There is a desert lizard that does this:
The species has no males; they reproduce by two females rubbing together and they fertilize each other.

In labratories, humans can already do this;
one can make sperm from an egg.

perhaps the lizard method will be how we will reproduce thousands of years from now?
Interesting no?

-Sara
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mina.magpie

Quote from: Sarah on December 28, 2008, 09:51:45 PMActually, according to my spouse who is well knowledgeable on all things genetics; the male gene is dying out generationally in humans.
Eventually there won't be any males at all and there will only be females that can reproduce and fertilize themselves.

Gee, I imagine the fundies are gonna loooooove that idea. ^_^

It's true though, the male gene is weakening, from what I've read, and all the chemical pollution we've pumped into the world is hastening this process significantly.

In answer to the original question, and with all respect to guys because some of them are really ... yummy and considerate and caring, I think the female mindset is just more flexible and able to adapt to different circumstances. Guys tend to oppose, girls tend to redirect, to absorb. It's that whole willow tree vs. rock deal: The rock can withstand things more solidly, but it has a definite breaking point. The willow's branches can bend and move out of the way and absorb huge amounts of strain, and potentially stay standing long after the rock has crumbled to dust.

Mina.
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Nero

Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=50376.msg324755#msg324755 date=1230524154
Quote from: Sarah on December 28, 2008, 09:51:45 PMActually, according to my spouse who is well knowledgeable on all things genetics; the male gene is dying out generationally in humans.
Eventually there won't be any males at all and there will only be females that can reproduce and fertilize themselves.

Gee, I imagine the fundies are gonna loooooove that idea. ^_^

It's true though, the male gene is weakening, from what I've read, and all the chemical pollution we've pumped into the world is hastening this process significantly.

In answer to the original question, and with all respect to guys because some of them are really ... yummy and considerate and caring, I think the female mindset is just more flexible and able to adapt to different circumstances. Guys tend to oppose, girls tend to redirect, to absorb. It's that whole willow tree vs. rock deal: The rock can withstand things more solidly, but it has a definite breaking point. The willow's branches can bend and move out of the way and absorb huge amounts of strain, and potentially stay standing long after the rock has crumbled to dust.

Mina.

Lovely analogy, Mina. :)
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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deviousxen

Quote from: Nero on December 28, 2008, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=50376.msg324755#msg324755 date=1230524154
Quote from: Sarah on December 28, 2008, 09:51:45 PMActually, according to my spouse who is well knowledgeable on all things genetics; the male gene is dying out generationally in humans.
Eventually there won't be any males at all and there will only be females that can reproduce and fertilize themselves.

Gee, I imagine the fundies are gonna loooooove that idea. ^_^

It's true though, the male gene is weakening, from what I've read, and all the chemical pollution we've pumped into the world is hastening this process significantly.

In answer to the original question, and with all respect to guys because some of them are really ... yummy and considerate and caring, I think the female mindset is just more flexible and able to adapt to different circumstances. Guys tend to oppose, girls tend to redirect, to absorb. It's that whole willow tree vs. rock deal: The rock can withstand things more solidly, but it has a definite breaking point. The willow's branches can bend and move out of the way and absorb huge amounts of strain, and potentially stay standing long after the rock has crumbled to dust.

Mina.

Lovely analogy, Mina. :)

Lovely except said adaptation is to be twisted and gnarly.

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Vexing

It has a lot to do with what we eat; being over-fed is one reason - another is the increased amounts of hormones and hormone mimicking chemicals in food and our environment. Have a look at the effect of fertilizers and chemical effluent on fish - the research is quite fascinating.
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deviousxen

Quote from: Vexing on December 29, 2008, 02:13:47 AM
It has a lot to do with what we eat; being over-fed is one reason - another is the increased amounts of hormones and hormone mimicking chemicals in food and our environment. Have a look at the effect of fertilizers and chemical effluent on fish - the research is quite fascinating.

Oh I know. I feel like I'm jumping ship and abandoning males I hang out with.. Cause I always tell them how screwed the Y chromosome is in our current world. Its kind of a schadenfreude thing...


I'm a sicko
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Vexing

Quote from: Kara-Xen on December 29, 2008, 02:16:02 AM
Oh I know. I feel like I'm jumping ship and abandoning males I hang out with.. Cause I always tell them how screwed the Y chromosome is in our current world. Its kind of a schadenfreude thing...


I'm a sicko

Well, there is a species of lizard that no longer has males - the females reproduce by pretending to mate with each other, then laying eggs (which are clones of the mother).
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Chaunte

Quote from: lisagurl on November 29, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
QuoteAny other ideas?

Maturity does not have gender, just wisdom.

After watching the behavior in the halls where I teach, I don't know if I can agree with you, Lisa  :D

If you are left to care for the camp and children while the men go off to hunt, then an early maturation would become a logical evolutionary step.

And, Nero, this is for you...  ;)

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