Are you socially isolated ?

[tekla]

Put your hubby on then, and you can get back to your real work.

But the issue was brought up of forming some sort of gypsy caravan of TG persons in the Intermountain West of the US, and farming on federal land (without people watching it, we'll all just happy a gypsy until the crop comes in an then we all eat plenty off the fat of the land) by someone who so obviously don't know much about this region.  ->-bleeped-<-s in Utah.  Yeah.  Pick me a winner there.  And farming without care taking is a fantasy.  Farming with great care is a break even proposition at best, and backbreaking work without tractors at an even bet.  And I doubt if people can do it if they are not used to doing manual labor for 12 hours a day, day in and day out for months at a time.

I'm not talking about survival, I'm only thinking this through the point of a basic industrial collapse.  Not beyond that.

Though you got the AK right.  Ultimate survival tool that one.  Everywhere but here.  Opps.  Well, half right.

[HHSamanthaJB]

[Art is a luxury in a survival environment.]



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or here....http://www.backwoodshome.com/index.html
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as well as these:http://www.awrm.org/nms.htm
http://www.permacultureactivist.net/
http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/index.html

I'm not just a dizzy blonde dame who is clueless on this stuff...I could give you one hundred such listings...my husband is very knowledgeable about all this weird stuff...I just don't care about it...( I took some of these listings out of his bookmark listings )
THIS IT IS NOT THE STUFF FOR TOPIC'S OF DISCUSSIONS HERE! 

Take your B.O.B and AK-47's and horses and go someplace else...leave us alone.

I'd rather die in the joy of art than merely survive.

[tekla]

Survival is an art form in and of its self, and few can survive on art alone.  That I know. I've spent my life doing - or at least producing - art.

[Shana A]

Art has no other purpose than being art.

Most cultures, primitive or modern, have art forms such as music, dance, visual art, masks, etc. It is a part of the human need to express ourselves in this way.

Z

[tekla]

Art is nice.  But in the beginning, I sure don't need someone who could render me a nice watercolor of a mill, I need a millwright.  I don't need people who can design a book cover, I need people who know how to make blueprints and technical drawings to scale.  And so on.  Carps, plumbers, steamfitters, mechanics, tool and die makers, and for the life of us we still can't find a cooper, which is a key craft, perhaps we raid a winery and get one.  So its not like we will not have music, its just hard to carry a person who all they really do is play great lead guitar, we'll just have to get by with a bunch of us strumming chords and singing Kumbia or something like that.

[mina.magpie]

Art, like music, like storytelling, like all other forms of creative expression used to be something we all did, communally. The idea of artists as specialists getting paid for what they do was fun while it lasted (for the people getting paid that is), but it turned culture into a commodity, which I think is very sad. Hopefully one of the positives that come out of all this unpleasantness we've stirred up for ourselves is a return to that older way of doing things.

Mina.

[tekla]

it turned culture into a commodity
Perfect.

[yabby]

To a certain degree i would say yes that i am isolated, i finished university a few years ago but kept contact with 0 friend. 

i only have contact with my direct family but when it comes to the extended family i don't have any contact at all.  my reasoning is that i don't want to be judged and the more people you know the harder it is to be yourself and come out.

[tekla]

I would think the more people you know, the greater the ability to find people who like you and who you like back.

[yabby]

I would think the more people you know, the greater the ability to find people who like you and who you like back.

this is also true, my experience through university and school made happy of having finished with both of them. I was never out or told anyone but many people were so mean.

on the other side friends i came to know in gay clubs are more accepting and open minded.

[chrysalis]

I've been rather extroverted most of my life despite being picked on pretty badly when I was younger (5th grade), but even then I recovered. In high School though something changed I began having trouble with depression and then along came Social Anxiety Disorder.

It used to be far worse than it is now. I had trouble going to mall or even driving. I saw a counselor though and have largely rehabilitated myself. I still have trouble meeting new people, but I have a healthy network of friends and generally do well. It's really surprising how far a smile and direct eye contact can get you.

[krisalyx]

yes unfortunally because i live out in the country, and you have to go nearly an hour to get to the nearest town, that has any sort of Lgbt scene.

[Hypatia]

First yes, then no.

From childhood I grew up very socially isolated. I had few or no friends. After all, the world of boys made no sense to me and I found it repellent. I felt affinity with the girls and longed to participate in female society, but it was barred to me. That left solitude, pretty much. I came to feel comfortable in solitude and was socially awkward. During most of those years I had no friends at all, unless I got a chance to be friends with women, which was often problematic. This held true until I came out when I was 45.

At that time the social butterfly emerged from her chrysalis and all of a sudden I had an active social life and more friends at one time than I'd had in the rest of my previous life put together. I came out of my shell and reached out to other humans, and discovered how much I enjoyed human contact and how easy it was. The reasons for this dramatic transformation are easy to see: I found activities where I felt welcomed and fit in-- first the peace movement, then Paganism, and then the LGBT movement. Embracing Pagan faith not only proved liberating for my gender issues, it brought me into contact with many wonderful people who instantly became good friends. The same went for LGBT activism. The two went together because Paganism tends to be the most queer-friendly religion, while many queer people with a spiritual bent find Paganism beneficial to their lives.

But the main reason I suddenly became a social success was that I now accepted who I am-- for only by living on the basis of my true reality could I relate well to others. This allowed my inherent friendliness and charm to shine openly instead of being blocked as it was during those long grim years of gender inhibition.

I've always been introverted, and still am. But introversion does not mean you can't be outgoing and have a social life. I'm an introverted social butterfly who can't get enough of going to parties, throwing myself into activities, and making new friends. What introversion means is that I still need my solitude (several hours a day) to recharge my energy. But now I've found more of a balance, so that I can enjoy both social life and solitude. Coming out was the healthiest thing I've ever done, that is for sure.

[V M]

I often feel isolated. But it is mostly because there isn't really anyone to relate to where I live. There isn't much of anywhere to go or anything to do. It is a very religious and conservative area. No-one to comfortably hang out with. I get very lonely

[Walter]

I often feel isolated. But it is mostly because there isn't really anyone to relate to where I live. There isn't much of anywhere to go or anything to do. It is a very religious and conservative area. No-one to comfortably hang out with. I get very lonely

Same

[Hypatia]

You remind me how fortunate I am to live in a major metropolitan area (Washington, DC). I came from a provincial area but felt stifled there and needed to get out. If I were in a religious conservative region, I'd go crazy from the oppressiveness and think of nothing but moving out.

[sarahb]

You remind me how fortunate I am to live in a major metropolitan area (Washington, DC). I came from a provincial area but felt stifled there and needed to get out. If I were in a religious conservative region, I'd go crazy from the oppressiveness and think of nothing but moving out.

Same here.