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MtF ~ How feminine was your body shape before HRT ?

Started by Chrissty, February 02, 2009, 05:12:18 AM

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Chrissty

I really don't think I will be needing blusher for the next year....

..but thank you Nicole, not so much for the compliments, which are still very much appreciated,

but more for showing me that you have found your confidence. :icon_bunch:

You may feel a little regret about your open display sentiment after a little more sleep, 

but I'm sure you will never regret the events of this last weekend.

You take Care Now

*Big Hug* :icon_hug:

Chrissty
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Alyssa M.

I haven't read all the responses, but I'll answer:

I don't have a lot of obviously feminine physical traits, but I'm not terribly masculine in appearance. I have slight upper-body muscular development and not much chest or back hair. I have the short-ring-finger thing going on. My facial features are rather less masculine than most men in my family, if not quite feminine. Also, I don't have any noticeable hair loss (at 30). That's normal for my mother's side of the family, but not for my father's.

Even if I had the face of Natalie Portman, I'd still see the rest of my body as way too masculine.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Ashley315

I've always been androgynous.  All my life I have been taken for a girl off and on and it seem to happen more often the older I got. 
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Janet_Girl

This is a very interesting thread.  I have always been slight in build, even when I was 185 lbs.  And I have always had small breasts.  I hated going topless.  My walk as always been on the feminine side, hips swing naturally and smaller step for a guy.  I have also always held my hands in a feminine way.  It drove my wife nuts when I stood with my hands on my hips.  Never did that in a guy fashion, it wasn't natural for me.

My hands, I think are big, but with nails they are smaller looking.  My arms are smaller than most, and my legs have always looked feminine.  My face is too masculine looking in my eyes.  I hate my jaw line.

I think my mannerisms are naturally feminine, because my ex was always telling me not to do something that was natural to me, but screamed 'woman' to her.  ;D

I have been called 'gay' most of my life, even when I was married.  It is just the real me shining thru all the male bull.

It is so funny that Chrissty started this post, because when I first started reading her postings, I was shock when I found she wasn't full time or even transitioning.  But she will.  Maybe not today.  or tomorrow, but she will.  Nicole is right , sweety, you are a natural.

Janet

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sd

I was always small, had a bit of feminine walk, and bigger hips, buying pants as a child was always a hassle (I did eventually get taller). I would not say my hands, wrists and arms are small, but they are a far cry from my dad and friends, and much closer to my mothers. I always thought my legs were more girly than manly and had to train myself away from a lot of feminine actions too. I was also asked if I was gay, in fact my own mother hinted at it once or twice.

I suspected low T a few times, but would it make you happy if you got more? I doubt low T is effecting your thinking in this way.
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Alyssa M.

I have always hated being topless. It has always made me feel naked. It has nothing to do with my non-existent breasts, and everything to do with just not feeling right. Women don't go topless, at least not in this culture.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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placeholdername

Quote from: Leslie Ann on February 03, 2009, 01:56:09 AM
...and had to train myself away from a lot of feminine actions too.
I used to be the same way... crossing my legs while sitting down in public.  Used to be that when I did something feminine I'd think to myself, 'Oops! better not do that where people can see me', but now every time I do something feminine I'm more like, "Yes!  That's me!".

Quote from: Alyssa M. on February 03, 2009, 02:01:10 AM
I have always hated being topless. It has always made me feel naked. It has nothing to do with my non-existent breasts, and everything to do with just not feeling right. Women don't go topless, at least not in this culture.
Same here.  The 'shirts vs skins' thing in sports always made me nervous because I'd refuse to take my shirt off if I was on the 'skins' team.
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sd

Quote from: Alyssa M. on February 03, 2009, 02:01:10 AM
I have always hated being topless. It has always made me feel naked. It has nothing to do with my non-existent breasts, and everything to do with just not feeling right. Women don't go topless, at least not in this culture.
Yep, I hated being topless.
I almost never wore shorts until I de-haired my legs, then suddenly found I loved it.
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coolJ

"Body gender and brain gender are unrelated and brain gender will always win out.  Even if you don't transition, the desire to will always be there if your brain is in cloflict with your body."

Julie

I found this to be 100% true. I was small too and I had to constantly push past my limits to have the body I have now. I also would have been shorter if I hadnt drank so much milk( gallons per day-moo)!My wrists are small, hands too,my nails look better than most womens, almost no adams apple and my nose isnt that bad considering all the battering its taken over the years. :-\ My calves never looked like my brothers( popeyesc) even though I used too calve raise 600lbs for 50 reps!
But unfortunately my determination won out.Noone could tell I am a transexxual now. Even though I have all the advantages of a strong mans body and life I'd change it all in a second because brain gender outweighs body gender. 8) Oh yeah, and even though I have a bodybuilders physique I still am always uncomfortable at poolside with no shirt, at least now I know why! ;)
Life is short, wear the shoes and eat the brownies!!!!!!---coolJ

Cast in this unlikely role, ill equipped to act, with insufficiant tact, one must put up barriers to keep oneself intact.---Rush
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Sephirah

For me it largely depends on what time of day you're asking, or what mood I'm in at the time. My bodily perception varies from Schwarzeneggerian to positively sylph-like.

At the moment... somewhere in the middle, I would guess. ;)
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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deviousxen

Quote from: Leiandra on February 03, 2009, 06:06:34 AM
For me it largely depends on what time of day you're asking, or what mood I'm in at the time. My bodily perception varies from Schwarzeneggerian to positively sylph-like.

At the moment... somewhere in the middle, I would guess. ;)

Yeah... I tend to shapeshift a lot too... D:
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Ashley315 on February 03, 2009, 12:32:21 AM
I've always been androgynous.  All my life I have been taken for a girl off and on and it seem to happen more often the older I got.

That is experience as well. I was taken as a girl from 13 onwards, and recently I still pass but since being on HRT I have now gained fat in the wrong place (on my belly).
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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Northern Jane

It is hard to say what constitutes "before HRT" since I started taking hormones at 14 (1963) whenever I could find them (or steal them) - but that was infrequent and erratic. My body also produced some natural estrogen.

I wouldn't say my shape was feminine by my late teens - much the same shape as Amelia Earhart - tall and lanky. I sure couldn't go topless under any circumstance! (Many years later, when I met my birth mother, I found out I was the same build as she.)

I had no trouble passing in a bikini in my early 20's (though not very busty).

Somehow, over the last 30+ years I have turned into my grandmother and find it hard to believe I was ever that slim!  :(
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Nigella

Quote from: Ashley315 on February 03, 2009, 12:32:21 AM
I've always been androgynous.  All my life I have been taken for a girl off and on and it seem to happen more often the older I got.

Yea I agree with Ashley as far as my body shape, etc. I was often mistaken as a girl way into my twenties until, OMG I decided to grow a moustache (bum fluff really, lol). I had boobs before starting HRT last April last year. Only 5ft 6in in hight, 133lbs, small wrists, etc, etc. never got served at a bar, barman always served the person behind who was taller, that sucked.

BTW hi Chrissty

Stardust
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kblossoms

Yes, this is me entirely.  And I think being socialized as a boy, I learned to deny it.  Like, I have very small hands, and I've never seen men's gloves sized "small" because it would be an insult or something.

For decades I never left the house because I thought I could never pass.  Of course the ideal was to be skinny if you were a woman, and I was never skinny.  Then one day it kinda hit me over the head: my soft round face, my girly eyes, my wide hips and curvy figure was a lot like the normal women all around me.  Kind of a "duh!" moment.

I've also noticed that, regardless of any obvious signs of femininity, if I'm really in a good headspace about being a woman, I get called ma'am frequently, am assumed to be female (from behind) and guys seem to do a doubletake when I go in a men's room (can't wait to never do THAT again lol). 


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Chrissty

Quote from: stardust on February 03, 2009, 12:02:42 PM
OMG I decided to grow a moustache (bum fluff really, lol)

Hi Stardust, ..welcome back...

..and I remember trying to grow a moustache in my late teens too..
..but why did we struggle so hard to grow convincing facial hair in vain then...
...only to now stuggle so much to get rid of it now...at vast expense and pain? :eusa_wall:

I should also explain, that having gone to the trouble of growing the 'thing', to
prove to myself I was really a "macho" guy, I then proceeded to invent a
special "pancake" make-up, to cover it up when I wanted....very sad!  :icon_google:

Chrissty
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Janet_Girl

There is a term that is used in the Gay community, I think.  To hide your true tendencies, you use a 'beard'.  I have had a full real beard most of my life.

I have a picture somewhere but it is scary.


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Ashley315

lol I never could grow a beard or any substantial facial hair at all for that matter.  Never got beyond stubble and was very thin regardless of how long I let it grow.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Ashley315 on February 03, 2009, 01:56:45 PM
lol I never could grow a beard or any substantial facial hair at all for that matter.  Never got beyond stubble and was very thin regardless of how long I let it grow.
Me neither, no body hair either...and am I pleased about it.
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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Eamber

I'm not too masculine looking, I guess. I used to be miss'd all the time until I put on so much height (and grew an adams apple). Curse you, height!

My body, face included, is kinda androgynous. I've not got many curves, but my hands and feet are smallish and slender. Hair is another matter. It's all over the legs. And it's really dark and thick, like my head hair. But none at all on the upper body, for some reason. I've never tried growing a beard, but I suspect I could.

Still, I guess you have to live with this sort of thing for the pleasure of having nautrally black hair.
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