Would you do it?

[Flameboy]

Yes, absolutely. In fact, as I'm in the UK, phallo will be covered by the NHS anyway. I'm intending to go to Belgium for mine, and have my consultation there in July.

Interestingly, before I started T, I was pretty sure that I wouldn't want a phallo (or any other lower surgery). However, the more comfortable I become in my body, due to the effects of T and top surgery, the more I am aware of the fact that I'm missing something. Even though the technology isn't perfect, I need to have the best that IS possible in order to feel "whole".

I'm well aware that some guys are happy without any lower surgery, and that meta is the best option for other guys, but for me it just has to be phallo.

[Luc]

Nope. I will NEVER have a phalloplasty. I have enough difficulty thinking about top surgery, though I know I'll have it once I have the means. However, I only had a problem with not having a penis before I'd actually learned how to utilize what I do have. What I have works fine, and the last thing I'd ever do is give it up to have a frankenpenis and a disgustingly disfigured arm... but more power to the guys who want it... it's a personal choice, certainly.

Sadly, the only way I'm getting a penis is if I magically wake up one morning with one, or if they ever perfect penile transplants. I won't hold my breath.

SD

[Jay]

In fact, as I'm in the UK, phallo will be covered by the NHS anyway. I'm intending to go to Belgium for mine, and have my consultation there in July.

Is the NHS covering the surgery in Belgium? Did they do it with out a fight? Also what surgery/surgeon are you using? As I heard they put up a fight for funding surgery outside of the UK. And want you to use Dr Ralph but I have heard bad comments from him. Also do you know what technic he uses? For-arm, abdominal?

cheers

Jay

[Flameboy]

Is the NHS covering the surgery in Belgium? Did they do it with out a fight? Also what surgery/surgeon are you using? As I heard they put up a fight for funding surgery outside of the UK. And want you to use Dr Ralph but I have heard bad comments from him. Also do you know what technic he uses? For-arm, abdominal?

cheers

Jay

The NHS has funded quite a few phallos in Belgium now, so there's a precedent been set. I haven't actually applied for my funding yet, but I'm confident that I'll get it. You have to get your GP to write to the Specialised Commissioning Board (I think that's what it's called) on your behalf - my GP is very supportive and happy to do that. I've arranged the consultation myself, because it's not very expensive - I haven't yet had a referral from Charing Cross, but again, I'm confident of getting that - my next appointment there is actually a couple of weeks after my appointment in Belgium.

The surgeon is called Prof Monstrey, at the University of Gent hospital. I've seen a number of his results, and heard nothing but good things about him. Over there, they do the surgery in one procedure, followed by the implants (scrotum and erection device) as an optional second stage 12 months later, rather than the 4 stages they take to do the surgery in London. This would be particularly good as it would minimise the amount of time I'd need to have off work.

I've heard very mixed things about Mr Ralph's surgery. Some people are very happy with the results, whereas others are, erm, less so. A mate of mine had his done at the end of last year, and it didn't work and had to be removed again - so he's now been left with a big forearm scar and nothing to show for it. I've never heard of that happening with the Belgian team.

Having said that, I might also request a consultation with the London team, as they're so much nearer and easier to get to, but I'm pretty set on going to Belgium, so if Charing Cross say that would mean I can't apply for funding for Belgium I won't bother.

The Belgian team use 2 techniques; firstly, the forearm technique (similar to the London team) and secondly, a joint forearm and thigh technique - the outside of the penis is taken from the thing, and the urethra is made from the arm. This obviously leaves less visible scarring, but is not suitable for everyone - I think it depends on how much fat there is on the thigh. I'm hoping that will be possible for me, but I'm not sure it will be - I ain't exactly the skinniest guy in town!

Hope that helps mate! If you want any more information, I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can.

[Jay]

Thanks Flameboy! PM sent

Jay

[myles]

I went to a meeting at the Q Center last night for Transguyz (the  official name) and the topic was surgery. When the discussion came to bottom surgery both guys were heading to Belgium to have theirs done. They both seemed to have researched the procedures and different Dr. quite a bit and felt that the Belgium team was by far the most knowledgeable best at this surgery. They did say there was a two year waiting list at one point.
Myles

[Ender]

with the metoidioplasty (without urethral hookup), everything is the real parts and in working order.  all it does is release it so that it can stand up.  for a bio guy, i imagine it to be like popping a boner in a really tight pair of underwear.  just wont let it stand up!  i just want my underwear surgically removed.

What he said, 'cept I want the urethral hookup.  And a complete vaginectomy, as I find the whole thing rather useless to me (kudos to those who can actually use it, though) and the thought of it being there just messes with my head.

And, maybe TMI, but... though small, the 'glans' after awhile on T is incredibly well-formed...  Seems like a part that would be difficult to accurately reproduce with a phallo...  BTW, there is a photo of a guy who had 'paramedical tattooing' of his phallo on Transster.  It actually does a lot for improving realism.  He had the shadow of some veins added and it looks like the glans graft might have been darkened a bit, too.

[Flameboy]

Thanks Flameboy! PM sent

Jay

I got your PM Jay, but I can't send PMs yet I'm afraid. I do have MSN though - if you PM me yours then I'll add you, since I can't send you mine!

[Crypt77]

If the operation was completely and utterly flawless - definitely.
But with the way the results look now - no way.
I'd rather have a vagina that works than a dick that doesn't. 

Exactly. I agree. I would want it only when it's flawless. It doesn't even have to come with a sac of balls either. Just most surgeries look really wrong in the end.

[YoungSoulRebel]

I wouldn't.  I've yet to see a phallo that looks good that hasn't needed countless revisions to fix aesthetically.  Metas tend to be much less of a hassle.

[Elijah3291]

I voted for the medioplasty(spelled wrong?)

I don't really care if it is super small, so long as I can pee through it, get it hard naturally, and grab it

I dont want phallo, I dont want huge scars on my arms, and I dont want to have to pump it, or whatever it is you have to do to get it hard.

[Aussie Jay]

OK so a big debate in my head sounds like this...
Meta - yeah small but MINE, the right tissue doing what it does getting hard etc as a bio guys does, possible damage to feeling but less likely than with phallo, but might not be enough for penetration and may still need that sort of help in the bedroom, possibly no bulge in pants and very different from male or female genitalia
Phallo - 'normal' size, need a hand to get hard, easy penetration, scars on other body parts depending on procedure, unsure of resulting feeling, bulge in pants, possible ugly - seems to be an aesthetically hit or miss surgery, male genitalia
My question in here is does it feel like nothing having sex with a phallo?? Or is it like after I please my partner I need to attend to the little guy another way?? Anyone have any ideas??
Jay

[Wolf Man]

I'm not sure I want any sort of procedure. I'm worried about issues that may arise and then I'm not too sure I want a penis. I think about it a lot though. I think of what it would be like to actually stand and piss on my own. That's about it though. I'm happy sexually in my own way, but I do get some dysphoria on occassion.

So no, I wouldn't want surgery I suppose.

[rexgsd]

I am very uncomfortable with my genitals now. I mean, how can I be comfortable with female organs if I am male? Also, its much easier for people to think I am female unless I have male parts (i dont just mean in nudity sense, but just regular public) Also, when it comes to having sex, or even masturbation or anything like that, I can't do any of it until I am completely male, as in having my male parts. Bottom line, very uncomfortable with my genitals right now, bothers me every day.

[Banf]

Apparently the surgeons at Gent in Belgium generally expect metoidioplasty patients to actually return later at some point for phallo. o:

I also found this report, which is pretty interesting: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413887

They claim that out of 27 evaluated phallo patients, all were able to orgasm 'during any sexual practice' (which obviously isn't strictly penetration). I'm surprised that fewer MtF patients were able to. :O

[rexgsd]

wow oh really? jeez everyone that talks about phallo  says how its impossible

[icontact]

I think dicks are funny looking, and rather extraneous in general. I'd prefer to just keep what I have, without any strange growth from T.

[Carson]

wow oh really? jeez everyone that talks about phallo  says how its impossible

on another forum I am a part of there are quite a few people trying to dispel this myth. It is possible to retain feeling if the phallo is done correctly.

[Xren]

Short answer: heck yeah.

Long answer: I don't plan on getting a phalloplasty, but a metoidioplasty?  Definitely.  I'm 0% comfortable with what I have, it grosses me out that it's attached to me and functions how it does.  It's not about some impetus to conform to binary gender standards...been there, done that, realized I was being an idiot and there was more to it...but plain physical awkwardness.  I couldn't care less about performative masculinity, but my body gives me trouble.  A lot of trouble.  I also don't care if it's small, as long as it's there and it works.

[mr_marc]

I've debated this..and i still am lol.
Theres alot of pro's and cons to go with it, the majority being cons.
The fact it might come off, of the blood supply would stop and it would have to come off scares me crap outta me.
So i would probably choose another method.