I might be moving to Canada, but not cause I want to

[Mister]

I thought all the poor people in America already didn't live here, or at least about 12 million of them ...

Nope, not here in the US.  That is, of course, if all the Home Depot parking lots are territories of Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador.

[Michelle.]

In South Florida they are like that. Had a poor guy killed in a parking lot about a month ago. As in a migrant worker accidentally jumped in front of a moving truck.

[Miniar]

Quick little update on this front...

I got a bill in the mail today.
They've listed me as "living abroad".
They're demanding I pay back the governmental child support.
I'm... not doing so good actually.

[Nero]

Quick little update on this front...

I got a bill in the mail today.
They've listed me as "living abroad".
They're demanding I pay back the governmental child support.
I'm... not doing so good actually.

what happens if you can't?

[Miniar]

I can't pay it. It's twice what I make in a month, and with last month's extra expenses, I'm already in the red a bit.
I'm seriously considering just going "f-it" and leaving.

[tekla]

Be very careful here.  You could be charged with fraud, grand theft, and flight to avoid prosecution, and such charges could a) prevent your entry/legal standing in Canada, b) result in extradition requests.  Canada does have a bilateral extradition treaty with Iceland by the way.

[tekla]

For better or worse, in the internet, computer search, information age it's become very hard to run away from anything anymore.

[Miniar]

I had a lawyer. Technically my mum handled that for me.
He died.

Also, I'm not being "prosecuted" for anything Tekla.

[tekla]

If a government thinks you owe them money, sooner or later they will file charges to get it, if you don't answer the charges, they will take the next step, and if they think you received said money in violation of their rules, then that is fraud.

[tekla]

And in the current age, they will know the instant your passport passes border control now.  It's all encoded, and its all shared information.

[Miniar]

o.O Now where did I say I would refuse to pay?

[tekla]

I'm seriously considering just going "f-it" and leaving.

[Miniar]

that would be a reference to leaving the country and giving up on it..
I'm not the sort of person to pretend my bills don't exist and hope they disappear.

Mind you, my dad's advice of the day is "Refuse to pay it"...

[fae_reborn]

Mind you, my dad's advice of the day is "Refuse to pay it"...

I would.  Why should you have to pay it back, when you were given it when you were a legal resident?  Just because they're listing you as a non-resident now, means they can get their money back?  That doesn't make sense, but then any government doesn't make sense.

Get another lawyer if you can, go to the press, this whole thing just sounds so absurd to me.

[Miniar]

Working on the "new lawyer" thing.
They've decided to list me living abroad "from 2008" not from now.

[Nero]

this is just really crazy. do they think you defrauded and weren't really entitled to whatever welfare you got?

[fae_reborn]

Working on the "new lawyer" thing.
They've decided to list me living abroad "from 2008" not from now.

Wow...Miniar, I'm sorry this whole thing just leaves me speechless.  I mean, dealing with a bureaucracy is one thing, but this just sounds like madness! 

[Miniar]

this is just really crazy. do they think you defrauded and weren't really entitled to whatever welfare you got?

Not really or they'd be demanding a lot more.
Post Merge: August 07, 2009, 08:41:52 AM
Aaaand now it turns out, my new lawyer's fallen ill and hasn't been able to leave his bedroom for a couple of days.
"He should be alright by monday" my mother says, but I can't help but to think...
Wouldn't it be "typical" if he'd die over the weekend?
*broods*