The Bathroom Debate - Who's Rights Matter Most?

[kae m]

So by this logic, one should not use a men's room 'til he is able to stand and urinate?  Does this include the use of a device designed to help you do so or only after the urethra is surgically altered?

Not really.  A woman standing in the women's room is much more likely to cause a reaction, right or wrong, than a man sitting in the men's room.

[stacyB]

The problem is not how "normal" people behave, I have been using the woman washroom when out and no one seems to pay attention or care. Rule of thumb is to use the bathroom of the gender you are presenting as.

The problem comes from to gray areas... work and surroundings.

At work, someone who is uncomfortable with a trans person using their bathroom can cry sexual harrassment (which is absolutely ludicrous). In this litigious society, we often have more to fear from the lawyers than we do from real threats. As such, employers are now faced with a two potential lawsuits... discrimination (trans person) vs. harassment (GG/GM). Hard to say which side they will choose, but in the end the employer always loses. And why? Because of some close minded idiot who cant handle being in the same bathroom as a trans person.

The second more "awkward" problem comes from the environment. It would be very uncomfortable using facilities where there are small children (think chucky cheese, etc). The last thing you would want is some soccer mom crying foul because her 8 year old is in the same bathroom as you if you present as female. Its not worth the confrontation.

Sometimes its a case by case  judgement I guess... YMMV.

[Ms Bev]

........... I don't like having anyone dictate to me how I evacuate my own bodily wastes. I'm sort of pigheaded that way.

I may be speaking for a small minority, or a large majority, I don't know, but when I went fulltime (even way before), I chose to sit to pee, because it was the most natural and culturally established way that women pee.   And, well......I am a woman.  I never stood to pee at home, even before transitioning.  It felt yucky, and oddly incongruous with who I am.  Just my idle thoughts


Bev

[Janet_Girl]

The only time I would stand was when I was in drab and at work.  At the time I was on a delivery truck with a guy, and we usually used the bathroom together at lunch, if it had more that one urinal.  Gods, I  am glad that is over.  At home I have always sat.

Janet

[Sandy]

The only time I would stand was when I was in drab and at work.  At the time I was on a delivery truck with a guy, and we usually used the bathroom together at lunch, if it had more that one urinal.  Gods, I  am glad that is over.  At home I have always sat.

Janet

There came a point about a year before I made the decision to transition that I vowed never to stand at a urinal again, ever.  Up to that point I had always sat at home.

There were occasional embarrassing moments, but guys rarely talk in the john and *never* make a comment about a persons urination habits.

But using public facilities became a nightmare.  Guys think that the toilet seat is for target practice so putting my tushie on one of those was sometimes so disgusting that I simply did not use a restroom at a potty stop.  But I would NOT stand.

One of my brothers, just prior to my trip to have SRS, asked me if I was going to "write my name in the snow" one last time for old times sake.

I told him no.

-Sandy

[Natasha]

this is dumb.  it isn't rocket science.  if you can't even pee like a woman, get the hell out of the ladies room & go play somewhere else.

[Steph]

this is dumb.  it isn't rocket science.  if you can't even pee like a woman, get the hell out of the ladies room & go play somewhere else.

Plain and simple

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[Miniar]

... I suppose that means I ought to stay out of the mens-room?

[PinkSunshine]

... I suppose that means I ought to stay out of the mens-room?

Not at all! Guys sit down too, all the time! They got to go poo as well and it comes out of the same hole on men as well as women . No guy is going to notice, let alone care if someone is sitting in a stall.

I agree with the half dozen (or more  ) posts that said use the same restroom as what you are (or 'presenting' to qoute right).

[V M]

Virginia is wondering what restroom the Cat in the Hat uses 

[Janet_Girl]

The cat box, you silly.   

Janet

[Sandy]

The cat box, you silly.   

Janet

If the cat in the hat uses the cat box, does the cat in the hat have a cat box hat box?

-Sandy

[V M]

Breaking news... The Cat in the Hat has a hat rack next to the cat box 

[Ms Bev]

this is dumb.  it isn't rocket science.  if you can't even pee like a woman, get the hell out of the ladies room & go play somewhere else.

My sentiments exactly

[V M]

The Cat in the Hat has informed me that it is jealous of your hat and wants to know how much you will sell it for 

[Sandy]

The cat can have my hat if he promises not to be the cat that took a crap in my hat!

-Sandy

[V M]

Excuse me, but I have to pee. But I'm not sure whether to use my potty or my restroom  I'll leave you all with the cat to debate it 

[Sandy]

Excuse me, but I have to pee. But I'm not sure whether to use my potty or my restroom  I'll leave you all with the cat to debate it 

What about the WC?

-Sandy(ask Jack Paar)

[V M]

W.C. Fields? Ah yes my little chick a dee. Let me tell yous about the time I was drinking whiskey, smokin' a Cuban cigar and dancing naked atop the Empire State Building........ 

[Steph]

Grrrrrrr "Potty" can we play grown ups now?

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