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Fired for being Transsexual.

Started by sarahm, May 21, 2010, 11:19:17 PM

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justmeinoz

My brother-in-law is in IT and reckons a lot of firms will sack you if you don't show flexibility by changing jobs every few years anyway. WTF????
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Arch

Pardon me while I go outside to smoke crack, gamble compulsively, and cross dress while salivating over someone else's feet. Preferably a child's. >:(
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sarahm

Quote from: Arch on May 23, 2010, 01:23:41 PM
Pardon me while I go outside to smoke crack, gamble compulsively, and cross dress while salivating over someone else's feet. Preferably a child's. >:(

o.0
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justme19

Quote from: Arch on May 23, 2010, 01:23:41 PM
Pardon me while I go outside to smoke crack, gamble compulsively, and cross dress while salivating over someone else's feet. Preferably a child's. >:(

*starts to tap feet, waiting for Arch to get back*

Haha that made me laugh :P
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Inkwe Mupkins

Arn't we all supposed to be considered equal. This pisses me off. You know why in the hell is it called the LGBT community, when clearly the T part doesnt get any rights. I think the trans community isnt even included. I could just  >:(.  I'm angry. It's like the governmetn goes out of there way to discriminate. We should have a giant trans rally and march up to the white house and just go off, I mean tear them a new ass.
Islam means peace.
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sarahm

Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 23, 2010, 07:56:08 PM
Arn't we all supposed to be considered equal. This pisses me off. You know why in the hell is it called the LGBT community, when clearly the T part doesnt get any rights. I think the trans community isnt even included. I could just  >:(.  I'm angry. It's like the governmetn goes out of there way to discriminate. We should have a giant trans rally and march up to the white house and just go off, I mean tear them a new ass.

The "T" is the only thing totally out of relevance to LGBT. Because Trans* can be Lesbian, Gay and Bi. Also, the first 3 are sexual orientations where as the last is a psychological condition, not a form of sexuality.
http://sarahspublicdiary.com/2010/05/were-just-like-you-and-here-to-stay/
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Inkwe Mupkins

I should print that out and give it to my aunt maybe she'll understand. BTW sorry about ur job, ppl blow.
Islam means peace.
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sarahm

Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 23, 2010, 09:45:55 PM
I should print that out and give it to my aunt maybe she'll understand. BTW sorry about ur job, ppl blow.

You're welcome to print that out if you want. It's from my public diary, more or less a blog.
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Inkwe Mupkins

Islam means peace.
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Suzy

This is just soooo wrong!  Just makes me wonder which one of us is next.

Kristi
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Tammy Hope

Quote from: sarahm on May 23, 2010, 08:54:13 PM
The "T" is the only thing totally out of relevance to LGBT. Because Trans* can be Lesbian, Gay and Bi. Also, the first 3 are sexual orientations where as the last is a psychological condition, not a form of sexuality.
http://sarahspublicdiary.com/2010/05/were-just-like-you-and-here-to-stay/

THANK YOU!!

Although you might not limit it to just a Psychological condition (I understand there's some pressure afoot to get it listed in Physician's manuals rather than the DSM on the basis that it is at root a physical condition) but you speak what's not said often enough when you say it's not about sexuality.
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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Cindy

Where are those lawyers you see on TV (no pun) who are willing to work to support human dignity? Probably bailing out another BP executive.

Sorry but I hope stuff works out.

BTW I heard a similar comment about IT and about sales, unless you are moving on every 5 yrs or so you have no ambition ::)

Cindy
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sarahm

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 25, 2010, 02:32:49 AM
That's great and all, but all the folks in the GLBTI suffer similar forms of discrimination and need similar protections, whether they're gay or trans. It makes sense to band together. Strength in number and all.
I, for one, don't want to secede from the GLBTI community just because my condition is psychological rather than a sexuality.

Sticking together is fantastic, and the thing that is in common between all involved in the GLBT community is the fact that we are all minority groups, and all categorized the same. So this being said, we have a common grounds to work with. Someone who is Trans will generally feel comfortable around people whom are not classified as the ""normality"" (Quad Quotations for a reason) My statement is that, we are not technically classified as being apart of Gay, Lesbian, and Bi (Effectively there should be an A in there to cover Asexuals too but eh I'm sure they don't really mind) but that doesn't mean that we don't have a common grounds, or that we shouldn't associate ourselves with others categorized as being homosexual, bisexual or asexual. That is most certainly not what I am saying in anyway or form. My best friend whom was the first person I came out to is Gay. I liked being around gay guys, especially when they flirted with me, it made me feel more like a girl with a guy hitting on me. And one of my best friends from my old job is Lesbian, I actually just sent her a text earlier today to catch up when she has some free time. And generally, you will find that people with a gender condition are very open and friendly when they are comfortable, and I think it is good that we are able to hang out with L.G.B.A. people. They are amongst the nicest people this world has to offer. But don't limit yourself to them, you need to be able to interact with heterosexuals and other Transgender people too =]
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sarahm

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 25, 2010, 05:46:38 PM
How on earth could you limit yourself to them? This world is incredibly heterocentric.

Some people completely remove themselves from Society and only interact with people they know will accept them, rather then taking the risk and finding out just how the world reacts to them. So some people limit their social interaction to just friends in other minority groups, some people even cut out their family from their lives.
It does happen, but it is simply a barrier that people need to pass and see that the grass is greener on the other side.
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glendagladwitch

Quote from: sarahm on May 25, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
Some people completely remove themselves from Society and only interact with people they know will accept them, rather then taking the risk and finding out just how the world reacts to them. So some people limit their social interaction to just friends in other minority groups, some people even cut out their family from their lives.
It does happen, but it is simply a barrier that people need to pass and see that the grass is greener on the other side.

People with GID sometimes have such difficulty comforming to gender stereotypes growing up that they have been social outcasts all their lives, and have found acceptance only from a few others like themsleves.  Upon reaching maturity, such people can sometimes lack social skills to a degree that impairs any meaningful reentry to society upon transition.  Among those who are privileged to pass well, some have a chip on their shoulder that prevents then from taking any relationship with a cis person at face value on the presumption that the cis person would despise and shun them if their history were known, and perhaps even react with violence.  That's a large set of barriers to pass.
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Kristyn

Quote from: glendagladwitch on May 26, 2010, 06:47:41 AM
People with GID sometimes have such difficulty comforming to gender stereotypes growing up that they have been social outcasts all their lives, and have found acceptance only from a few others like themsleves.

Oh that's me alright, except I haven't found the acceptance part with persons like myself.  Now that person or persons does/do not have to be trans, but they have to be highly gifted in the arts with the ability to see and feel the world as I do, otherwise the connection is non existant.

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Upon reaching maturity, such people can sometimes lack social skills to a degree that impairs any meaningful reentry to society upon transition.

Oh, the skills are there alright, but those whom I encounter do not seem too receptive to what I have to offer.  Oh well, their loss.

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Among those who are privileged to pass well, some have a chip on their shoulder that prevents then from taking any relationship with a cis person at face value on the presumption that the cis person would despise and shun them if their history were known, and perhaps even react with violence.  That's a large set of barriers to pass.

A little too late for that kind of relationship.  The only relationship I want to hang on to is the relationship I have with my music.  I've pretty much given up on people.  Maybe another city, another town, another country
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Renate

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 26, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
Oh, we don't think you're strong enough to lift computers ...

It's actually a fairly common job requirement to be able to lift 50 pounds, not only in warehouse jobs,
but also in engineering where equipment pieces might rarely need to be lifted.
UPS requires the ability to lift 70 pounds.
How much an employer will insist on this is variable.

I always say that I can lift however many pounds their requirement is.
How much truth is in that, I can't say.
Besides, they didn't mention anything about not using forklifts, co-workers, etc. >:-)

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MillieB

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 28, 2010, 07:23:45 PM

I have this gnarly new invention called a 'trolley' which I put heavy stuff on and wheel it to the desired location.
Clearly this invention is too new and expensive for ordinary businesses to own.

This 'trolley' device of which you speak sounds like pure witchcraft! Somebody call the witch finder general :laugh:

In all seriousness, I have been hesitant to say too much about this subject as I know nothing about U.S employment law but this wouldn't hold up for 10 seconds in a U.K court. And we're hardly progressive!
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armozel

Quote from: Helena on May 22, 2010, 03:18:46 AM
IT requires a strenuous physical aspect? What! Pretty much every man I know that works in IT treats it as a doss...in fact all the girls I know that work in IT take it far more seriously and are probably 5 times more productive. hehe

That is seriously just pathetic behaviour on your employers part.

Yeah, I suspect they didn't want to dole out whatever they may have had to give in the event of a layoff. I think the T part is merely a smoke screen for other crap at the company. It's funny that by contrast at my job at UPS everyone knows somewhat that I'm different (I'm not out, so I think they think I'm gay) but no one gives any stink over it. And being a package pre-loader *is* a physically demanding job. Being a code monkey or network admin isn't demanding unless lifting your cup of coffee counts... o_O
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