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Started by Stephanie, June 05, 2010, 02:21:23 PM

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Kristyn

Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 07, 2010, 08:50:01 PM
Brains+Awareness

Pluuuuus I think I am Dirty Harry... Can't you tell?    :laugh:



COOL!!!  Sometimes I feel like  marsellus wallace :laugh:
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tekla

There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that ->-bleeped-<- for years. And if you ever heard it, that meant your ass. I never game much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother->-bleeped-<-er before I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some ->-bleeped-<- this mornin' made me think twice. See, now I'm thinkin': maybe it means you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. And I'd like that. But that ->-bleeped-<- ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

Pulp Fiction Martial arts... LOL
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

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- V M
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tekla

I'm just thinking that Samual L. Jackson was right when he was saying the truth is you're the weak.  Weak people carry weapons.  Strong people know enough to avoid the problems in the first place.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

Oh, I see... Anyway, I love that scene  ;D
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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sweetangel93

this is my first post...lol

But i will have to go with wing chun.

To me its the best, easiest, fastest, and most effective martial art.

I was developed by a women therefore is exellent for smaller weaker people but can be used by others as well.
I currently do wing chun and its fun too.
It doesnt take as long as other martial arts either to be able to use it effectively.
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Epigania

When I was a teenager, I took Judo from a Brazillian who tossed in occasional Ju Jitsu for when throwing and pinning someone just wasn't enough. :D

He also taught all his students how to relax and meditate.   

Judo was amazing.  It was very good exercise and great at making me flexible.  I've been thinking of picking it back up.

Kristyn

Quote from: Epigania on June 09, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
When I was a teenager, I took Judo from a Brazillian who tossed in occasional Ju Jitsu for when throwing and pinning someone just wasn't enough. :D

He also taught all his students how to relax and meditate.   

Judo was amazing.  It was very good exercise and great at making me flexible.  I've been thinking of picking it back up.

I recall the old Beverly Hillbillies episode where Jethro wanted to take martial arts because he thought food was involved, i.e Judo Rolls and Karate Chops :laugh:
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V M

Don't forget the Jujitsu snaps and pops... LOL
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Kristyn

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Kaori

Quote from: Stephanie on June 05, 2010, 02:21:23 PM
I have been thinking that I should perhaps learn a martial art for self-defence.   Do you practice a martial art, if so what one would you recommend?   



Post Merge: June 05, 2010, 07:29:49 AM

We are really quite vulnerable when you think about it.  An attacker could grap hold of our hair or a necklace, and kicking might be difficult in a tight skirt or dress, or when wearing heels.

And if you do successfully defend your self, then you risk having your attackers and any bystanders prejudices being confirmed that you really are just a 'guy in a dress'.



Post Merge: June 05, 2010, 02:42:20 PM

As we lose a lot of our upper body strength, perhaps Aikido and/or Judo may be better for us.   As these two martial arts use the attackers size and weight against them.   The down side is that unless you are near black belt level then Aikido and Judo will probably not be very useful if you are attacked by several people at the same time.

Starting at the age of 7 I studied Jeet Kune Do, Aikido and then started kickboxing in my twenties.

It was a lot of fun though I have given it up within the past few years.

To be honest though, I have never been in a situation where I have had to physically use what I learned from martial arts.  Avoiding potentially dangerous places/situations HAS been a life saver though, coupled with heightened (read: conscious/focused) awareness.

Lately I have whole heartedly and purposefully resigned from martial arts to flexibility, meditation and just keeping in good tone/shape.

Rather than recommend anything, I will just share what I have learned:

1. Awareness/Knowledge is more important than physical condition.  All the physical superiority in the world won't help you if you are as dumb as an ox (generally speaking, not meant to offend any oxen).
2. Physical conditioning (flexibility, endurance, and some strength training) is more important than martial arts.  Your body, mind and spirit are your greatest weapons.  Martial arts is only the vehicle or form you choose to manuever in.
3. Which martial art?  A martial art is like a brush in the hand of an artist.  The brush does not make the holder an artist, it is merely a vehicle that assists the artist.  Choose whichever brush works for you.

Good Luck!
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tekla

I'll take all the martial arts classes, all the training, all of that up against one guy who grew up in the streets, on the streets and I will take him plus 15 points to kick all of your asses.  None of you even begin to know what you're talking about in a real city, in real time.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Sabene

Kaori, your post feels like wisdom.  :)
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glendagladwitch

Quote from: tekla on June 09, 2010, 10:35:37 PM
I'll take all the martial arts classes, all the training, all of that up against one guy who grew up in the streets, on the streets and I will take him plus 15 points to kick all of your asses.  None of you even begin to know what you're talking about in a real city, in real time.

LAWL.  Your so funny.  You crack me up.
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tekla

I managed to make it though half a century, and a PhD before I ever saw anyone killed before my very eyes.  Then, in a year and a half I saw three.  Two by gunshots.  I'll take the gun over your mighty martial arts training any day. 

Remember, guns don't kill people, gaping holes through vital organs do it.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

Quote from: tekla on June 09, 2010, 10:35:37 PM
I'll take all the martial arts classes, all the training, all of that up against one guy who grew up in the streets, on the streets and I will take him plus 15 points to kick all of your asses.  None of you even begin to know what you're talking about in a real city, in real time.
Yup, non of us have ever lived in a real city or had to defend ourselves from a real attacker

Yup, we all live in la la lollipop land and have no education and no idea about the world around us

Heck!!! It's amazing we're not all dead
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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tekla

It does shock me from time to time that some of you are alive.  But then again for most of the people in here a bad neighborhood is one with a person of color in it.  Try where I work, look it up on the murder map, TURK and TAYLOR, San Francisco. It's got one of the highest homicide rates in the US.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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V M

I had to pass through the barrio on my way to school and back as a child in So. Calif.

While playing on the front green a man from the barrio walked by in a white shirt and black pants (restaurant stuff) and smiled

When he got to the barrio he was approached by a group of men... He collapsed at the edge of my driveway a few moments later

His white shirt was now turning red and he was saying agua...agua

I knew what agua was so I ran in the house and asked my mom if I could have a glass of water for the guy at the driveway

She called on the phone but wouldn't let me go back outside

Then the police and ambulance came

I've been witness or have seen the aftermath of other violent deaths, but that is the only one I will discuss at this time
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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tekla

So that's good, you know that all that martial arts stuff don't do no good against a gang, against a gun, against a knife.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Britney_413

I'll chime in here. First, I'd like to dispel the myth that weapons are useless or only for the weak. Speaking of the weak, weapons make perfect sense. A gun is said to be the great equalizer. An 80-year-old frail woman who can barely get around would be an easy target for gangbangers to beat up and rob. Now if that same elderly frail woman has a .357 on her side and has been shooting since she was 11 years old, that changes things. I have an Arizona CCW permit. I usually carry where legally allowed and sometimes visibly. Last night I made a trip to the local Walmart after midnight. There were about seven thug-looking characters loitering around the entrance who clearly didn't look like they belonged there and had no intention of shopping or doing anything constructive. I walked in with my Glock on my hip and did my quick one-item shopping. Ten minutes later when I walked out of the store, guess how many of them were still hanging around acting suspicious? You guessed it: ZERO.

Enough about guns. Let's talk about situational awarness which I think is most important. Let's assume that someone is determined to do you in. They can't do so if they can't get to you. They can either attack you in your home, in the company of others (such as a public place), or while traveling (walking, driving, bus, etc.). You can protect yourself quite well in these situations without needing weapons or martial arts at all. At home, lock the damn doors. Problem solved. If that fails, every home has some type of a weapon (i.e. kitchen knife) that can be used to do in an intruder. As to public places, pay attention to your surroundings. Sit in a restaurant at a seat where you have the maximum view of your surroundings. Note your exits. If you are in line at a store, beware of blind spots as you remove your wallet to pay for the items. These things may take getting used to but after awhile they become second nature. As to traveling, use your five senses. If you are walking, you can not only see but hear or smell another person approaching (i.e. freshly lit cigarette). It sounds animalistic but we are mammals and use your instinctual survival skills. Cars--check your mirrors, watch when you get in/out of the car. Just pay attention to what is around you such as on trains, buses, etc.

I've always found that the easiest way to avoid being victimized is literally as simple as paying attention. I could be armed to the teeth but it won't help if my mind is buried in the morning paper while someone is sneaking up behind me.

If the fight is on, my advice is create distance. This is precisely why I like weapons vs. martial arts. A fist can be far deadlier than a gun or knife. All they have to do is knock you unconscious and you are done. The purpose of physically fighting is to re-create distance. Knock the gun out of their hands, quickly duck/dodge as they try to stab you, etc. However, once you have fought with your body and created the distance, the key is to maintain that distance. Pepper spray, tasers, knives, and guns all create distance more effectively than fists.

Be brave and don't feel powerless. Victimizers tend to prey on people deemed to be weak. That is why attackers often attack in groups. However, there is likely an alpha male in the group. Suppose six guys want to beat you. One is likely the toughest baddest one in the group. The others are following him. Once you down the worst one, the others may just back off. Plus, fight dirty. Seriously. It is your life, your body, and your existance at stake. My only other advice is to regularly run what-if scenarios in your head. It may seem like paranoia but can save your life. The more situations you imagine the more solutions to them you will create. When the real event happens you will automatically revert to your training. If you already have a plan, you are likely to mess up the attacker's plan because they certainly will assume you don't have one. Take care.
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