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Started by Kristyn, June 06, 2010, 07:50:15 PM

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Bam

St.Pete,Tampa and Sarasota tend to be very expensive to live in.Going a little more North it gets cheaper,but n night life to speak of.
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Kristyn

Quote from: Cindy Stephens on June 10, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
If you haven't been to St.Pete in ten years, then you have to do the time warp to know.  It is completely different with a vibrant downtown as well as access to some of the best beaches in the world.  The entire area has really focused on developing and nurturing the "creative class."  As this class includes a high level of gays, it has created some friction with the Baptist "troglodyte" class.  The creative classes have reached a momentum that really can't be stopped. Business know what the future looks like.  As far a blues and bands, look up "Gaybor" on facebook for the traditional liberal Cuban "Cigar City" section of Tampa.  A pretty wild scene on weekends with some legendary special events.  Also search on "skippers smoke house" for a really bizarre blues scene venue.  I recently purchased tickets to a show by Eric Lindell, that should be a trip.  I hope that I am not sounding like a travel agent.  But the area has changed dramatically since my boyfriend and I moved here 30 years ago.  One last thing.  The east and west coast of florida are really different.  New York and New England people tend to settle on the east coast, mid-westerners on the west.  The west coast is more laid back, east coast is faster paced, though that may be changing.  East coast is glitzy hip, west is more laid back type of hip.  Hope this helps.

Thanks Cindy!  Great Info!  I'm definitely planning a trip there after my surgery sometime
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gothique11

I live in Calgary, Alberta -- a lot of trans ppl live here (and in Edmonton). I think part of it is because our province used to cover SRS, until our current provincial govt got into power (and it looks as if they won't be back, since they are very unpopular atm).

I've heard from several ppl that have moved here that Calgary and Edmonton are trans friendly. Alberta attracted a lot of ppl from all over because of the jobs out here -- and, so, our land scape has changed a lot in terms of how society is here as a whole. It's not as cowboy and redneck as ppl think it is. Also, a lot of ppl are apathetic out here, they really don't care much who you are. It has changed a lot in the last 10 years, and especially in the last 5 years.

It's not cheap to live out here, however. It has progressively gotten more expensive. Calgary is as expensive to live at as Vancouver; but on the flip side, getting a job out here is a lot easier than Vancouver. The recession hit our jobs hard here, but they have started to bounce back. It's easier and slightly cheaper to find a place now, but it looks like by 2011 it's going to be back to harder-to-find places, and more cost as the demand goes up.

Calgary, also, is probably one of the most American-like city in Canada. Calgary is more of a business, office, high-end type of city. We're the hub of industry and banking for Western Canada.

Edmonton is more blue-collared, and not as expensive as Calgary. It's colder than Calgary (temp wis - as calgary is usually pretty warm with mild winters; Edmonton has cold winters). It doesn't have as much growth in population, and it has a different feel to it... I have had some ppl say it feels more Canadian.

Here, there's always a Calgary vs Edmonton power play. Edmonton is the seat of government, and we're the seat of Economy.

I've only ever lived in Calgary and it's not bad. Like every city, it has its plus and minuses. It really depends on what you want and what you are looking for. People who work in business-type jobs love it here, 'cause this is where a lot of those jobs are, since we're a major hub in industry (especially oil). Some ppl say that we're a bit like Texas, and sometimes ppl call Alberta the Canadian version of Texas.

It has gotten a lot more liberal here in terms of population; but there are also old grumpies that come from here and try to get into power and then give our province a bad name -- ie Prime Minister Harper... he's from Calgary. And, like Bush is from Texas, so are the Dixie Chicks and other ppl who are form Texas and don't like him. Our current primier, Ed Stelmach, is very unpopular here (especially in Calgary). It's highly doubtful he'll win another election, and doubtful that his party will win (they won, sadly, because of apathy... then ppl cared when he started tearing up the province and crashed it into the ground).

No one really cares if you're trans here (or, I should say, the majority). People just care about hockey here. LOL

Being American-ish here, however, we also attract Bush and friends (Rice, Ann Coulter), etc, as an attractive place to visit. Other cities didn't want them, but we did. Our protests were here, but small, and not violent (which is why Calgary is often picked, 'cause no one really cares, and goes about their own business and aren't very confrontational... and if we are confrontational, it's very polite and non-violet... most, just do a groan, talk about it during coffee, then gather at home with friends to watch hockey and have a few beers. Next day, wake up and go to the office). In general, we are pretty friendly... other trans ppl from other places in the world who have moved here have said that as well; often surprised. We're more diverse than ppl think.

It's hard to explain what it's like here. o_0  Our sister city is Phoenix, Arizona and Quebec City, Quebec (in Canada). Besides sometimes being called Texas, we're also compared to Nashville. Calgary has a old-west, smaller town, but modern and global feel to it, since it's such a huge trading and international hub.

Tegan and Sara (they are indie singers, who are twin sisters and lesbian) are from here... LOL, if Harper was our Bush, then Tegan and Sara would be like our Dixie Chicks -- both from the same place, but both very different ends of the scale. Harper actually is from Calgary, just as Tegan and Sara are. So, yeah, we have both ends of the spectrum here, and everything in between.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary

I don't know if it's the trans-friendliest city of them all, but I know it's not really that bad.
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alexia elliot

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I lived in Miami some 20 years ago and then it was a artsyfartsy mecca, little cheesy at times but artsy in general. Night life progressive joints jazz and drugs. I was a little girl then, Miami had a South American flare, I repeat Flare. Now it is more like overwhelmingly South American ( without flair) to the point of not being able to communicate well without speaking the native tongue, all sorts of Spanish dialect. As to Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater they still have a sense of retirement community and redneck flair. Not exactly progressive! And then the weather, if you are planning to wear anything more than summer dress such as a bra, panties, etc., you will bake literally alive, unless you stay indoors for say, 6 to 7 months a year. Today I clocked 98F, with I am not sure but humidity in the high80's% to low 90's% and that is just because front is coming through and brought bit of dry air with it.

I am too interested in finding a place which is so progressive in general arts that creates welcome atmosphere to all the societal rejects :-) like city of Paris in 1800's.

We may have to settle somewhere and establish such our selves, who knows, some crazy ideas have come to fruition in the past given enough commitment and want.

Post Merge: June 11, 2010, 05:54:42 PM

I would love to find out if San Francisco is truly what I have heard of it. I been told that it is gay/lesbian and perhaps transgender friendly and that this might be an understatement. I heard that it has a very large gay community and is quite open and tolerant to that idea. I know from the past that gay tolerance doesn't have to mean transgender tolerance, I wonder if someone does live there or knows of living conditions there (of course besides being the most expensive city to live in in the world)
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Radar

Quote from: Kristyn on June 07, 2010, 08:56:22 AMThe southwestern and southeastern US has always had my eye.
Be careful of the U.S. South- especially the Bible Belt. Some places are good but most places are very transphobic. In most places we have few to no rights and little resources. Many would rather see us die and burn in Hell before helping us.

Most pro-trans and supportive people I've come across in the South are transplants. This has all just been my experience. Whenever I move I'm completely leaving the South- the Deep South anyway.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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Radar

Wow... there are so many graphic & web designers on this board. :D

Does anyone have any other recommendations on trans-friendly, non-Southern places with a good design market and employment? I have no problem with the cold.

As much as I'd love to move to a different country right now that would probably be a huge headache. Plus I'd want to be farther along in transition to reduce the chance of major problems.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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mm

Congrauations on getting top surgery in 7 days.  Sure must feel great to be just a week away from a flat chest. Who is your surgeon?
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Torrey

San Francisco Bay Area is probably the most trans-friendly area in the United States.  (Which isn't saying much, because in general, the United States is NOT trans-friendly. But I have never yet been hassled except once by a department store guard when I didn't pass too well, and one of the other ladies in the changing room complained. But some of my acquaintances have not been as fortunate as me in that regard.)

I live in the East Bay near Berkeley, California,  was born there, and have lived there most of my life. 

I hear Minneapolis,  Minnesota is also trans-friendly, but it's too cold there!!

                    Torrey Grey
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Julie Marie

Austin, TX.

If you're not sure you're weird enough you can take the test.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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annette

and what about Amsterdam ?
allright a bit cold in wintertime but with warmed  gay and transfriendly pubs it's no problem

hug
annette
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CaitJ

Auckland, New Zealand. It's practically run by trans people - they even have their own damn street!
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Radar

Quote from: Torrey on January 04, 2011, 01:39:38 PMI hear Minneapolis, Minnesota is also trans-friendly, but it's too cold there!!
I've actually thought about there. I've been there and it's a beautiful, clean city with very friendly people.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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tekla

When people describe Amsterdam as cold it's hardly appropriate to use the same word for winter in the middle of Minnesota where the January average (that's AVERAGE) is 18F.  The lowest recorded temperature was -41°F in January of 1888.  That's beyond cold.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Radar

I've been in -40°F before. It's surreal. When you first walk out the cold hits you like you wouldn't believe. Then very quickly you feel nothing. No cold- nothing. It's like it shocks your system to numbness.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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VeronikaFTH

I live in Chicago, but honestly I can't speak for how trans "friendly" it is in general, as I don't interact with the community much. There is an Illinois state law that makes it illegal to fire employees for being gay or trans, but that doesn't really matter because they'll just find a different excuse to fire you -- it happened to a friend of mine. It's hard to prove discrimination.

There are some good resources here, and great medical care. As with any large city, it depends on what neighbourhood you're in. If you can stand the sometimes severe weather, there are worse places to live.

It sometimes gets to -15F here in the middle of the winter, but has gotten colder occasionally. I've spent some time up in Northern Wisconsin and the upper peninsula of Michigan. Though it is beautiful up there in winter, it sure is cold, and a LOT of snow by Lake Superior. It was -25F when I was there.

I've talked to some people who lived up by the Canadian border in Minnesota, and hearing stories of -40F weather just makes me cringe. A bit too much for me....
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spacepilot

Anyone know anything about the community in New York city? I'm moving there sometime over the summer and was wondering what to expect. I know it's at least more liberal and accepting of eccentricity in general from what I've heard from some friends of mine that live there, so I'd assume this would carry over to the LGBTQ/trans attitude? I'm excited about the move, regardless. ^^
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Julie Marie

I've lived in Chicago all my life.  Highest temp I've seen is 105, lowest was -26.  I was out driving around to cell sites that day visiting my crews and scoping out new locations.  I never shut the engine off for fear I wouldn't be able to start it again.

Chicago is a fairly trans-friendly city.  Mayor Daley has been a LGBT proponent for as long as I can remember.  We have even hosted the Gay Games and Daley was right there, front and center, supporting the community.  (I know, he's a politician but being a politician doesn't always mean being LGBT supportive.)

There's a lot of T groups in the Chicago area.  Even Halsted Street, the gay stronghold in Chicago, has warmed up to the T crowd.  (that wasn't always so)  But the weather isn't so great.  Lots of overcast days, intense cold and biting winds in the winter, oppressive heat and humidity in the summer.  I'd say we get about 20-30 really nice days a year - or so it seems.  ::)
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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annette

Tekla you're right, amsterdam is not as cold as minnesota because we are living near the sea but you wouldn't like it to wear summerclothes now in wintertime.
but in a certain way it's trans and gay friendly.
a lot of bars for people who accept eachother as the way they are, so you can see a straight constructionworker having  a glass with a tg or cd and they like it both because it's nice and cosy and they respect eachother.
of course like in every city there are no go zones but in general it's quite friendly
a big kiss for your always sharp comments, i surely love to read them and i do appreciate your sense of humor.


love
annette
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japple

Quote from: Torrey on January 04, 2011, 01:39:38 PM

I hear Minneapolis,  Minnesota is also trans-friendly, but it's too cold there!!

Layers and hats and scarves are great things for body image issues!  Minneapolis is very LGBT friendly.
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tekla

a lot of bars places and spaces for people who accept eachother as the way they are

That's pretty much SF.  You'll be accepted to the degree that people like you, the trans/no trans deal is not an issue.  But your personality is.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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