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feminine side?

Started by gilligan, July 15, 2010, 06:42:44 PM

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elvistears

Lol, that's awesome.

At 12 I did a watercolour painting of the Spice Girls.  Three years ago, my mum decided it would be a brilliant idea to get it framed and display it in her holiday home.
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Nimetön

Quote from: elvistears on July 15, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
...I'm at art school though.

This would be why, I suspect.  I cannot think of more than two who do these things, and both are unusually flamboyant homosexuals.  Their behavior is considered abnormal by the rest of us, obviously.  Cute, but also vaguely disturbing.

In my experience, the majority of transmen have far more feminine personalities, measured by traits and also by cognitive/emotional bias, than any but the most flamboyantly homosexual biological males.  (The complementary observation holds for transwomen.)  I wouldn't bother trying to apply normative statements to the fact; you are what you are, to reiterate the Berraesque tautology.

- N
While it is entirely possible that your enemy entertains some irrational prejudice against you, for which you bear no responsibility... have you entertained the possibility that you are wrong?
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elvistears

What the...

Thanks, Doc.
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Poseidon

I like to cook, and am pretty good at it, but how I cook is like Remy from Ratatouille  ;) (I enjoy creating new dishes and experimenting with food...not general household cooking...and I don't like cleaning up after myself either). My brother also does this, and we like to cook together (we make up crazy ->-bleeped-<- all of the time). Other than that...idk...I guess I like stuffed animals. My interests are pretty neutral/masculine.
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Silver

No real really feminine interests. I'm not nurturing, don't like kids, quite cold by default. But, I'm also not very masculine and have feminine moments. Pretty passive, there you go. Traditionally feminine I guess, but it doesn't really seem gendered to me.

In any case, nothing wrong with having a feminine side. As far as I know, most guys seem to have a bit of a feminine side. It's just really, really rarely shown. Well, vulnerability is considered feminine and everyone has vulnerable moments, however rarely. We are probably more accustomed to feminine things and maybe our egos aren't as fragile (some of us.)

I know that playing with dolls doesn't make me a girl, and if I want to do it I will. I just don't want to, lol.
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jmaxley

I like designing fashions...sometimes the fashions even look almost normal.  :D   There's some women's fashions I really like..just can't bring myself to wear them right now.  I like cute stuff like Bento boxes and My Little Ponies.  Occasionally I'll get in a sewing, beading, or cross-stitching mood.  I love shopping.

To balance it out, I love computers and video games and doing the occasional very minor repair on my car or working on some geeky project like lego models or trying to make an antennae.  I don't much like to clean and am not any good at interior decorating...my place looks like a typical bachelor apartment aside from the occasional My Little Pony here and there.
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Scotty72

I think my two sides equal out.  For every masculine thing I do there is a feminine side to it and vise versa.  The more male things I enjoy would be; fishing, driving fast, taking things apart (to rarely be put back together), not cleaning, pwning some noobs on the interwebz, and shooting guns.

Then there's the fem side which would be things like; Cooking, picking out cloths for my girlfriend (I believe her to be color blind sometimes >_<), patching cloths, and some small bits of sewing.
Past that I really dont know.
Gone Fishing
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kyril

Quote from: Nimetön on July 15, 2010, 09:30:15 PM
This would be why, I suspect.  I cannot think of more than two who do these things, and both are unusually flamboyant homosexuals.  Their behavior is considered abnormal by the rest of us, obviously.  Cute, but also vaguely disturbing.

In my experience, the majority of transmen have far more feminine personalities, measured by traits and also by cognitive/emotional bias, than any but the most flamboyantly homosexual biological males.  (The complementary observation holds for transwomen.)  I wouldn't bother trying to apply normative statements to the fact; you are what you are, to reiterate the Berraesque tautology.

- N
Well, we're brought up to be OK with it (mostly...for some of us it doesn't take). Most little boys are brought up to be ashamed of it.

That being said, it's not true for all of us. My fashion sense consists largely of "Have I seen something kind of like this on another person my age, and does it fit right and hide all my fat lumps?" My decoration is "Hey, this is cool, let me put it on the wall." My personal care is "wash everything and cut hair/finger/toenails." I have 6 years of baseball, 4 years as a firefighter, and 5 years as an aircraft mechanic in the Navy, all of which I spent being socialized largely among blue-collar country boys whose idea of an acceptable level of femininity was scraping the dirt out from under our fingernails before we went out drinking. The only thing "feminine" about my behaviour before I came out was that I only drink sweet fruity mixed drinks (and even that I only started in the past couple years - in my foolish youth I was shooting straight vodka and chasing it with Bacardi 151.)

So...despite all that, I'm very gay. I want to look nice (not that I have a terribly easy time achieving it), have a cute butt and a sixpack lovingly constructed through hours in the gym, walk with a swish, take my girlfriends shopping and dance to Lady Gaga. If I'd grown up in a male body I would have joined my friends who are exactly that type of guy. And since coming out I've been working on being myself a bit more in that respect. But since I spent so much time compensating for my lack of maleness by being hypermasculine, I find myself somewhat lost in that world - it's like learning a whole new language. I still walk like I just stepped off the farm, curse too much, respond to far too many situations with "I'd shoot that sonaofab*tch," and am completely lost in the moisturizer aisle.

I never really learned to be a gay guy. And I have to respect the guys who managed to hold on to that aspect of themselves instead of overcompensating...I spent a decade and a half behaving like your cliche self-hating closet case. So I say ->-bleeped-<- it - if you're able to hold on to your feminine interests, as far as I'm concerned, that's an indicator that you're more secure in your masculinity than I've ever been. And probably more secure than your average cis guy (it was obvious that a lot of my friends were putting on an act just as much as I was.)


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Tom

I have to think about this one...

Well, when I get really excited I do this ridiculous wrist/fist thing where I put them up and crunch my upper half and dance a bit. I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking about? It's almost the squeal thing but I never squeal? I dunno, lol. I'm a very dramatic person...I did take drama and I think I'm a fairly good actor so maybe that's just me. Umm...thinking...

Well, my general interests include: Writing Yaoi (role playing with intense literary skills lol), Korn, Abingdon Boys School, Anime, Half Life, etc. I don't know what you define as specifically as "feminine". Maybe like shopping, manicures, and such but I'm not really into any of that stuff.

I never really thought about this sort of thing LOL XP
なんくるないさ。
Live through today for the sake of tomorrow.
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Nathan.

Umm I don't have many feminine interests I like soft toys and purple but thats about it to be honest. I'm sure there must be a few other things... *thinks*
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zombiesarepeaceful

OMG.
SPIDER.
KILL IT.

I hate bugs. But there's plenty of guys who hate bugs. My ex gf teases me about it though. Generally I'm a stereotypical male though. I like to cook but again, that's a gender neutral thing. I think it was only thought of as a feminine thing for awhile cause it used to be the women who stayed home to cook, etc. I enjoy wearing gothic guyliner if I'm performing or rarely for the hell of it. I like fishnets. If I was a cisguy I'd have no issues wearing skinny shirts and skinny jeans sometimes. I think if I was a cisguy though, i'd also be full out gay. But not a flamer. Just one of those gay men who you stay away from in gay bars cause they look like they want to kill everyone, but who is really gay themselves. I'm told i look like i want to kill people most of the time but really, I don't. Most of the time. I come off as a very cold person. But I have a sensitive side that I don't show unless you read my blogs or you know me very well.
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Michael Joseph

Quote from: Shade on July 15, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
waaa they are all over my house. They like to hang out on my ceiling too. My cat and dogs like to eat them >.>

There all over my house too! especially in my room.. so I havent slept in my bed for a few months now! They reallly creep me out.

Shang

Quote from: michaeljay33 on July 16, 2010, 11:57:51 AM
There all over my house too! especially in my room.. so I havent slept in my bed for a few months now! They reallly creep me out.

I have no idea how you guys can go into your house....I'd have to bug bomb the house before I stepped back into it if I saw even one of those in it.
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Michael Joseph

Quote from: Shang on July 16, 2010, 12:00:26 PM
I have no idea how you guys can go into your house....I'd have to bug bomb the house before I stepped back into it if I saw even one of those in it.

Ya trust me i am constantly scared to see one, and the couch is getting pretty uncomfortable! i still wont go in my room until their gone, but idk how to get rid of them. I guess thats the biggset feminine side to me, being scared of spiders and centipedes. i dont really have any feminine hobbies or anything that i can think of though

Shang

Quote from: michaeljay33 on July 16, 2010, 12:08:51 PM
Ya trust me i am constantly scared to see one, and the couch is getting pretty uncomfortable! i still wont go in my room until their gone, but idk how to get rid of them. I guess thats the biggset feminine side to me, being scared of spiders and centipedes. i dont really have any feminine hobbies or anything that i can think of though

Bomb the house!  Just go to Wal-Mart or somewhere similar and pick up some bug bombs.  Then open all of your drawers in your bedroom and take off the covers of your bed and take off the couch cushions.  If you have food in the pantry, seal all the food or take it out of the house and open the doors to the pantry....Then turn the bombs on and get the hell out of the house with any your family and any pets.

Bug bombs are the greatest invention ever.
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Nimetön

Quote from: Shang on July 16, 2010, 12:16:10 PM
Bomb the house!

If you have a crawlspace, or attic, those should be fogged simultaneously with separate bombs.  House centipedes primarily live in basement and crawlspace areas.

Given that house centipedes are arachnophages, if you successfully eradicate the house centipede population, you should probably expect a population of spiders to move into your home in a few months' time.  At that point, you may have to re-fog.

Alternately, for a permanent solution, you can close off most of the insect traffic pathways using a combination of caulk, spackle, metallic and polymer screens, and expanding foam, effectively confining the majority of insect traffic to the interstices of the structure.  You can also treat those regions with powdered orthoboric acid, which causes severe biological stress to exoskeletal creatures, severely reducing their populations.  (Tim Taylor grunt!)

Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on July 16, 2010, 11:49:16 AM
Generally I'm a stereotypical male though.

For some reason, I thought of you when I heard Monty Python's Lumberjack Song today.

- N
While it is entirely possible that your enemy entertains some irrational prejudice against you, for which you bear no responsibility... have you entertained the possibility that you are wrong?
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Michael Joseph

Thanks for the help guys! I'm definately going to do something about it now because it sucks being scared just to be in my own house. I'll let you know how it works

windowlicker

#37
Heh. I've been mulling over this femininity/masculinity malarkey for a while (still trying to figure out what I am and where I fit). My interests are of a gender-neutral "arty hipster doofus" variety. (This includes getting banjaxed and getting my arse in trouble for flipping the bird with no good reason.) Never had any interest in fashion, celebrity gossip, shopping, children and very small dogs, that much is true. Doesn't make me less of a wimp, though. Well, live and toughen up, eh?

And Shade, the centipede you posted is one dapper fella  ;)
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Yakshini

In my interests I am not anything like a stereotypical woman.
Shoe shopping? I would rather shoot myself. Cooking? Gawd no. Fashion? What's that?
I love wearing eyeliner, but all other makeup bothers me and I avoid wearing it completely, even though I should seriously consider some cover-up.
I am not all that self-conscious of any femininity I may have because ALL men have a touch of it in them. To try too hard to appear hyper masculine will make you fail worse at presenting as male than if you let a little of your girly side show.
I also adore flowers.
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zombiesarepeaceful

Quote from: Nimetön on July 16, 2010, 12:56:21 PM

For some reason, I thought of you when I heard Monty Python's Lumberjack Song today.

- N


Wow. Why? I don't even know this song.
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