Transgender Woman Severely Beaten at Baltimore McDonalds While Employees Watch

[V M]

Asocial for sure, psychopathic perhaps and almost feral.  They are right on the line between being put away, and put down.

I would imagine that those types of girls become rather well acquainted with the correctional facilities in the future

[tekla]

Yeah, and all at a cost only slightly higher per year then sending them to Harvard.  Such a deal.

[Just Shelly]

none of these people (maybe the older lady) are humans, Ya! the manager tried to stop it, did he once check to see if she was alright, or anyone for that matter. A dog hit by a car would of been treated better.

and I wonder why I struggle to come out

These two thugs do not represent any part of the human race.

[tekla]

do not represent any part of the human race.

Congratulations, you're just like them.  That is exactly what they think.

[xxUltraModLadyxx]

  YES! HERE! HERE!  My mom was always checking who we were friends with.  She did allow some latitude, but was strict with our upbringing, especially in that darned housing project we lived in at one time.  My mom won the tug-of-war of several years, of my brother with a real bad apple of his friend at the time after he gave a verbal warning that he would wrest my brother away from her influence!  He and his associates are dead or in prison for life for their lifestyle.  His parents didn't give a hoot what their children did.
  My little brother did fine, thank you.   He raised two daughters and sent them to college, one is not far away from a PhD!
  Joelene

that's a good thing definately. it goes to show that you have to raise your kids while you have the chance. before they become teenagers who know everything, who later become adults who are responsible for their actions.

[GinaDouglas]

the manager tried to do something

Yeah, warned them that the police were on the way.  That's not exactly helping.

The manager did a good job.  Alot of managers would have stayed behind the counter, waited for the police, and maybe the transwoman gets dead.  I  think we should thank him, not condemn him for not doing more.

The manager certainly kept the woman from being harmed worse.  He kept his employees from getting hurt, or hurting someone and getting sued.  If the police were on the way, he probably is responsible for that.  Telling the perps that the police were on the way, got them out of the building, which was his first responsibility.  Besides, in a big city, the cops might not have got there for hours.

We should probably also note that the perps are in custody, and the cameraman has been canned.

[Domitia]

Karma is just a placebo (so to say) of revenge. When something happens that seems like it was revenge for a past action, it is labeled as an effect of karma. Otherwise, it's just bad luck. Karma and luck are the West's 'Magic'; the same goes for good things too. Although, the theory is nice in terms of reassurance and self-critique.

With that said, I do hope that they get what they deserve. The video was sickening and I ended up stopping it after only watching a few seconds of it. The video will undoubtedly be good for the courts because you can't deny it or downplay it. It also spreads the news far faster, which is good because more people will become outraged by the events shown in it and perhaps give things like this more thought. The video is also bad because unfortunately some people will undoubtedly find it funny and simply mock it. Most things in life are double edged swords with a good and bad side, this video is one of them.

The event shown in the video is without a question, horrible.

As others have pointed out, this isn't the only case of someone being beaten. In general, our current society is terrible. This happening before to others, is irrelevant to it happening in this case (with the exception of the previous ones not preventing this one). It only strengthens the claim that society is (and pretty much always has) been an ugly thing.

Sure makes you question the intentions of mankind more and more.

[Tammy Hope]

I think it was actually the camera-man warning the perps to flee, not the manager.

Where I fault the manager and witnesses is in this regard: there's a point, relatively early, where the attackers leave the presence of the victim. At that point it's responsible to get between the two and prevent any further attack and no one did that. Which gave the thugs liberty to return and resume the attack.

That shouldn't have happened.


all this said, there is no certainty this girl was attacked BECAUSE she's trans (or technically WAS trans)

She says herself in the video on the Sun site that one of the thugs accused her of "talking to my man" and it might well be that the attackers didn't initially know her history until the camera guy mouthed off.

It could also have had a lot to do with race - it might simiply be one of those neighborhoods where white people are at risk of attack just for being there.

I think now that more facts are out the "community" needs to take a breath and assume a more strategic and calculated position.

[Britney_413]

I have a one-word solution to this: firearms

[pebbles]

do not represent any part of the human race.

Congratulations, you're just like them.  That is exactly what they think.

I understand what your saying telka but when you see things like this first hand happening to another transwoman your extremely prone to immediately begin made to relive traumatic situations of discrimination intimidation and fear that you've personally experienced. Least that's what I felt when I saw it.

What I want to emotively say makes this clear.
"I don't want to be better than the bigots I just want to live"

Sad but true... It's tricky to regain emotional clarity when you get into that state it happens when you see things like this. what works with me is realizing ownership of emotions the realization that this was her nightmare not yours. and while it's fine to be angry as a matter of defensiveness (it could of been you.) don't let it swallow you and remember that it wasn't.

What also helped me I was curious to learn more about this story so I googled it and they have a thread on stormfront about this, yes that stormfront
They were making extremely cruel racist remarks about the attackers begin black Comments about (gorillas and monkeys abound) and presuming that the woman was a cis-woman. undergoing a similar process but with the race issue begin there central point of how they thought the situation related to them.

They had a much harder time once they realized they were trans and realized that alot of them would empathize with the attackers.

I have a one-word solution to this: firearms

Then you'd only hear a story of a young transwomen begin killed in a male prison accused/convicted of murder. you wouldn't care at all because most of us feel edgy about standing up for transsexual convicts or suspects.

[tekla]

Yeah the thread on RedState and FreeRepublic (which are pretty much StormFront Lite^*) ran the same way, beginning with full out racist attacks on the attackers, then slowly moving to the point where most of the posts were siding with the attackers once the trans part was added to the mix.  That fun lovin' Tea Party, who knows what side they'll take next?

But there are more than enough u-tube vids showing similar incidents for me to think the underlying reason had nothing to do with being trans, but something much deeper.  The trans things was just a convienent excuse.  And simple surface hate is not going to solve that problem, though MdDs might start to offer to Super-Size your beating, or ask you if you want a concussion with those fries because it is becoming that common at fast food places.

I'm also not convinced that shooting a 14 year old girl wouldn't be pretty hard to defend in an inquest.



* - do not go to these sites unless you have a 'beyond cast iron' stomach.

[jesse]

as some else once told me better to be tried by 12 then carried by six and two one one with no way to withdraw is always self defense if a cop can shoot them so cant you
jess