Estrogen without blockers???

[HannahWhettonxo]

Im still a teenager, Im on low dosage of estrodial valerate tablets once a day, Im waiting for the pct to approve injectable blockers if they do, If not i will have to get tablet blockers too, but will this low dosage of hormones do much in the 2 months im on them? i don't grow facial hair or anything and i am kinda young
-Hannah xo

[Rock_chick]

Yes it is actually benificial to start on a very low dosage of E as this mirrors puberty and gets all the estrogen receptors fired up ready to accept the huge rush of E that's going to arrive in a few months time.

[HannahWhettonxo]

So does this mean i might get some changes? What changes would you say i can achieve? xo

[Megan Joanne]

I didn't use any blockers ever, never had it suggested nor prescribed, was just taking injectable estrodial, that's it, worked fine for me and I started nearly 10 years later than you are. But perhaps a blocker would've yielded even better results, and without me having to take such a large dose of estrogen, I dunno. At the time I never really had any info on blockers. What I'm curious about is, should I be taking a blocker next time I get back on the hormones, should it be considered a necessity, are there any others that have done without it?

[pebbles]

Yes it is actually benificial to start on a very low dosage of E as this mirrors puberty and gets all the estrogen receptors fired up ready to accept the huge rush of E that's going to arrive in a few months time.

Not that I doubt your crediblity Helena but can I see this myself? I know that the GIC's in the UK are a big fan of this type of proceedure but I'm unconvinced I'd like to see abit of evidence. :/

[Rock_chick]

I will admit that I only just heard about this last night, and I haven't read the paper that was referred to but apparently a respected enoctrinologist, who treats trans patients wrote it with the basic gist that a lot of girls don't get ideal results because they insist on the maximum dosages straight away, when in fact natural female puberty ramps up slowly over 3 to 6 months, which gets the estrogen receptors ready for the massive wash of hormones that is on the way.

[Padma]

I'd be interested to read that, if you have a link - in any case, it makes sense from the "don't do anything biochemical suddenly" point of view to ramp up gently rather than jump straight in at the top dose. Whenever the body experiences sudden change, it tries to compensate.

[HannahWhettonxo]

Oh i can't believe this is forgeign to you all, Its essential in the uk, It speeds up transition and gives you boobs in months xo

[Layn]

i started HRT on a low dose without blockers about 4 months, no wait 5 months ago (i'm 23) and i've been developing pretty well, but i've got the feeling i've had more body hair growing. or at least it has stayed the same. Sadly i'll only have another appointment with the endo in july, so thats what i'll be taking for another while.

[inna]

Hey Hannah, you are asking what changes you are going to experience and the answer is everything baby! Being your age is extremely beneficial and results will spell "GIRL" in its entirety (except of course for that dangly thing and birthing stuff
Good luck, and bit of loving envy from an old Broad.

[pebbles]

Oh i can't believe this is forgeign to you all, Its essential in the uk, It speeds up transition and gives you boobs in months xo

ahem I had boobs in 3 weeks. And I'm in the uk but I didn't use that method at all... As it's one of those Random indivdualistic things I don't think you can make claims like that.

[HannahWhettonxo]

"ahem I had boobs in 3 weeks. And I'm in the uk but I didn't use that method at all... As it's one of those Random indivdualistic things I don't think you can make claims like that."

I mean for most m2f fast breast growth is achieved with blockers.

Hey Hannah, you are asking what changes you are going to experience and the answer is everything baby! Being your age is extremely beneficial and results will spell "GIRL" in its entirety (except of course for that dangly thing and birthing stuff
Good luck, and bit of loving envy from an old Broad.

Thankyou lol well i have a big nose which doesn't help, but thats going to be sorted next year when i have rhinoplasty, But im wondering, Is it possible to look female with a big nose? because i need hope lol xo

[Padma]

...to which the obvious answer is:

[HannahWhettonxo]

...to which the obvious answer is:

Mines more of a inwards slope then a big bump then normal again lol

[xxUltraModLadyxx]

Im still a teenager, Im on low dosage of estrodial valerate tablets once a day, Im waiting for the pct to approve injectable blockers if they do, If not i will have to get tablet blockers too, but will this low dosage of hormones do much in the 2 months im on them? i don't grow facial hair or anything and i am kinda young
-Hannah xo

not really. in just two months of a low dosage of estrogen is not going to have much changes. maybe your skin might soften and smoothen within that time, but things like breasts development, fat distribution, and things of that nature will take several years to develop completely. if you aren't on androgen blockers, the estrogen has little to no effect, because higher amounts of testosterone will always counteract estrogens. unless you're taking high doses of estrogen, it won't be enough to drown out the testosterone.

[inna]

Hannah hon, you will always find something not right in the mirror image, after all you are a woman but many here would have given everything they posses to be once more, teen with ability to do what you are lucky to achieve. Sit tight and fasten seat-belts, place your seat back and tray in upright position, you are cleared for takeoff and believe me, you will be beautiful!

[Layn]

Thankyou lol well i have a big nose which doesn't help, but thats going to be sorted next year when i have rhinoplasty, But im wondering, Is it possible to look female with a big nose? because i need hope lol xo

i have IMHO a big nose and it really bothered me before, but to be honest, lately i'm actually okay with it. I don't know if HRT changed anything physical or if it was some mental change, but at least i don't consider rhynoplasty that important anymore

[HannahWhettonxo]

i have IMHO a big nose and it really bothered me before, but to be honest, lately i'm actually okay with it. I don't know if HRT changed anything physical or if it was some mental change, but at least i don't consider rhynoplasty that important anymore

How do you mean? Does your nose look more feminine like with your face now? like not the nose actuallychanging but blending in and not looking as manly on your face? xx

[Layn]

i think my nose has gotten smaller, and my mom did mention it too that it seems smaller. but in general it just doesn't look so wrong anymore, maybe it's just blending in. i don't know

[inna]

Everywhere there is fat, there is also an opportunity that HRT will do its magic. Nose has some fatty deposit so yes,  it could diminish in size. Better yet, bone does not change however cartilage, being semi soft tissue may, so further change possibility. However minute they are overall they can change the appearance of the face in the feminine direction. My experience has shown that my overall diameter of head has reduced by about 1", 1/2" on each side, pretty phenomenal. Muscle reduction combined with fat has led to that massive reduction. So just wait, you might actually save some cash for more important things than rhynoplasty, such as shooooose