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When you post a photo or avatar of someone other than yourself and claim or lead our members to believe it's you, you're insulting all of us. Insulting our intelligence (since many of these photos are easily turned up in a google search as being some model who is either a well known cis person or just very unlikely to be you).

You're also >-bleeped-<ting in the face of our many members who have shared their real faces and real lives with us. They were brave enough to share themselves warts and all with us. So don't chicken out and try to pass off a gorgeous cis person as yourself. You don't have to be beautiful to get into this club. You just have to be real. And there are many of us who don't show our faces for privacy reasons. Perfectly understandable as well. Just don't pretend to show your face, unless it's really YOUR face.

If for whatever reason, you want to play out a fantasy on the internet - a fantasy face and fantasy life - please go elsewhere. Fantasy has its place, but it's not here.

Avatars of famous people or models are ok; as long as you're not trying to fool anyone it's you.

I am one of those who has felt violated.  Lying about the avatar picture is one thing, but I have also read some "experiences" lately that don't exactly add up either.  I feel like I have wasted considerable time and effort in some attempts to be helpful.  I never really thought of this place as crawling with trolls or pathological liars until lately, and now, unfortunately, I have had to pull out a few extra grains of salt.

I am 100% for real and I don't have to worry about keeping my story straight, because what I tell is the straight story.  I'm guessing you all know that by now. 

And yes, that supermodel in my avatar pics is actually me.

I'm live on UStream once a week for anyone who wants to verify that the manic lunatic in front of the microphone is actually me. It's a little terrifying, I know. Yes, that's a real person and not a cartoon character. :)

The internet is full of trolls but, it is a pretty weird troll to try and live out a fake life at a website like this I mean, it isn't going to really extract many tears nor is it going to be profitable in any way. Seems to me if one wants to live a fantasy thru text they should write a book it would probably be more profitable than trying to pass off fantasy as reality.

The bunny is representative of my fur kids. I'm just an average middle aged woman. I just happen to be cis. I choose not to post a photo of myself out of respect for my daughter. She is my one and only.

Yeah... posting pictures of genetic females and trying to claim that they're trans women is seriously not cool...

It results in really nasty bouts of dysphoria for those who actually are trans, because it makes us feel like we got cheated in the genetic lottery, and it's kind of torturous to think that someone else's life is all peaches and roses appearance-wise while we have to suffer and scratch and claw for every single iota of our femininity.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on June 23, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Yeah... posting pictures of genetic females and trying to claim that they're trans women is seriously not cool.

Yeah, anyone that does that is totally bogus. I tend to do the anthro thing as an avatar just because I dig it. I've posted my actual pic a time or two so some people do know what I look like. I have to say that the anthro version of myself is much cuter.

Sadly it's a form of Münchausen by Internet (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%25C3%25BCnchausen_by_Internet), but instead of a gravely ill persona some people go for some kind of fantasy trans existence with bizarre little tragedies or dramas sprinkled here and there that actually seem to have little basis in reality. The perpetrators are usually spotted pretty quickly, if not by the mods then by other members who tell us. It doesn't take much to unpick the ludicrousness of certain fake personas when looking back at post histories.

This avatar is what I really look like IRL. No seriously. It is. I just took it a moment ago.


But on a more serious note, I'd always wondered about a few of the pics here. I, personally, don't like looking at myself still so I try to have an avatar to reflect how I feel on the inside. I figure that an avatar reflects something about you, and can sometimes be clever, funny, or serious. I can understand why somebody would want to try to represent themselves with a cisgender woman, but I, personally, find it disingenuous, especially if you try to pass it off as yourself.

this is my first online support group type thing, so when i hear about this stuff, i get very skeptical causing me to doubt myself even more than i already do or whether i made the right decision. honestly, this is why i was scared at first to be completely honest. sry i had a little pity party there but i'm just being honest. i dont like pretenders. i rather people be themselves for it doesnt matter how much of a basket case they are as long as i get to see the real you, i wont judge you at all.

Quote from: Jill F on June 23, 2014, 01:44:23 PMI never really thought of this place as crawling with trolls or pathological liars until lately, and now, unfortunately, I have had to pull out a few extra grains of salt.

Also seriously messed up sexual predators. :| Nobody wants to think that but it's the internet. You still have to be careful.

Quote from: sad panda on June 23, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
Also seriously messed up sexual predators. :| Nobody wants to think that but it's the internet. You still have to be careful.

TBH, this part worries me, I like to think that since I am not attractive I wouldn't attract any predators, but....I know that the reality is, anyone can be a target. Still, it leads me to be a bit more disconnect and suspicious than I would like.

Quote from: Hikari on June 23, 2014, 03:13:19 PM
TBH, this part worries me, I like to think that since I am not attractive I wouldn't attract any predators, but....I know that the reality is, anyone can be a target. Still, it leads me to be a bit more disconnect and suspicious than I would like.

Not attractive my ass. You are all kinds of pretty. Even the so called unflattering pictures, you look fine.

But yeah, anyone can be a target, but that's not just internet.

So, what am I missing, who's been passing themselves off as someone else?

Quote from: Hikari on June 23, 2014, 03:13:19 PM
TBH, this part worries me, I like to think that since I am not attractive I wouldn't attract any predators, but....I know that the reality is, anyone can be a target. Still, it leads me to be a bit more disconnect and suspicious than I would like.

Basically if people seem a little TOO interested in you, or in trans women, or in women in general, and wants to get close to you, chances are they're not telling the whole story.

Quote from: sad panda on June 23, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
Also seriously messed up sexual predators. :| Nobody wants to think that but it's the internet. You still have to be careful.

wait, what the hell? this is why i'm glad i dont really post my pics up that much though some know what i actually look like.

Fantasy lives is one thing but on another forum I used to visit regularly, there was someone (person A) who got a friend (person B) to post about their (person A's) death. Turned out it was fake and the so called "dead" person (person A) had been watching the topic just to see how many people would miss them. A sick and twisted way to see how many people like you, that's for sure.

Chris

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 23, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
wait, what the hell? this is why i'm glad i dont really post my pics up that much though some know what i actually look like.

I put mine up a lot in principal because my gender marker says M... it's kinda like, a statement, but then I regret it a lot. Regretting it already even (well I mean after posting in this topic, you never know who's getting off on the attention right now)

Just in case the one I was using that was among the options that are available to choose from in this forum was problem. I went back to no avatar at this point. I don't like any pic of my self and won't tell after laser removes my facial hair. I hope the one that was available to choose from wasn't a problem because I didn't upload anything pic at this point at all.

Well, just so you know, that really was me in the shark hat...

Quote from: sad panda on June 23, 2014, 03:26:55 PM
Basically if people seem a little TOO interested in you, or in trans women, or in women in general, and wants to get close to you, chances are they're not telling the whole story.

Yeah, wasn't there a post here about two or three weeks ago someone wanting to meet transgirls or wanted a transgirlfriend or marry and transgirl? I thought that was kind of creepy. I think one of the mods told them this wasn't a dating sight I replied and metioned the creepy part and then one of the mods locked it up pretty quick.

Quote from: Jess42 on June 23, 2014, 04:13:24 PM
Yeah, wasn't there a post here about two or three weeks ago someone wanting to meet transgirls or wanted a transgirlfriend or marry and transgirl? I thought that was kind of creepy. I think one of the mods told them this wasn't a dating sight I replied and metioned the creepy part and then one of the mods locked it up pretty quick.

No, the real creepy people don't say what they really want, they might even be in denial with themselves, and they'll reply to all your posts and give you lots of attention, and pm you and pretty quickly ask for some off-site private way of contacting you when it's not even necessary.

They just keep testing and pushing your boundaries while maintaining this fake exterior of being like you and on your side and nice.

I'm guessing people really feel insecure about their real selves that they put up a fake avatar or they really want to mock us. >:(
For those wondering, my avatar is a cartoon self-portrait of me wanting to be a prince.

Quote from: Jill F on June 23, 2014, 01:44:23 PM

I am 100% for real and I don't have to worry about keeping my story straight, because what I tell is the straight story.

Definitely this! I know it hard to believe, but my avatar is really me. I know, ewww. ;D

I considered changing mine to an awesome pic of cosplayer Abby Dark-Star (solely because the pic is awesome) but I didn't want to mislead anyone.  I might stick to the Sons Of Samedi logo.

Quote from: sad panda on June 23, 2014, 04:24:59 PM
No, the real creepy people don't say what they really want, they might even be in denial with themselves, and they'll reply to all your posts and give you lots of attention, and pm you and pretty quickly ask for some off-site private way of contacting you when it's not even necessary.

They just keep testing and pushing your boundaries while maintaining this fake exterior of being like you and on your side and nice.

Yeah, that should throw up a red flag for sure. I think I put up myself as an avatar 1 time for about 10 minutes and then thought better of it. Since anyone can just pass through and look too many people may recognize me and I'm only out to a few select people. But there are a lot of creepy people in the world and who knows? I may live next door to one of 'em. You just never know.

Quote from: bunnymom on June 23, 2014, 02:15:40 PMI'm just an average middle aged woman.

Are there no real talking animals on the internet anymore?

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 23, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
Sadly it's a form of Münchausen by Internet, but instead of a gravely ill persona some people go for some kind of fantasy trans existence with bizarre little tragedies or dramas sprinkled here and there that actually seem to have little basis in reality.

Grace, this brings up an interesting point.  Half the time, I think I'm making all this trans stuff up in my head, that I'm mentally ill, and that if I can just stop thinking about it (e.g. leaving here and not coming back again, finding a time-consuming hobby, spending more time at work or with the kids etc.) it'll all just be revealed for the fantasy that it is and I can move on with my normal life.  And sometimes I worry that it's now some bizarre fantasy that has gone waaaay too far with the whole therapy thing, now the hormones, coming out to family etc.  It's almost as if I could have started off with Münchausen, but it's actually gone so far that it's become true.  Of course, in reality I'm just in massive denial, but the lines between what is real and what is pretend are somewhat blurred in many cases.

Weeding out the deliberate fakers is very important.  There are plenty of posters here who I deeply respect, and whose experiences and advice I value as much as that of my therapist, my spouse, and my doctors.  It would be absolutely devastating to find out that any of those posters were just elaborate fakers - I can't imagine what that would do to anyone's confidence and level of trust.

Whatever can be done to protect the integrity of this site should be done.  This place is far more than an internet screwing-around discussion board.  It's a vitally-important resource for many of us who need to connect in a community which is naturally rather guarded.  Thankfully, most of the weirdos show their true colors very quickly, but there may be some who can do plenty of damage - knowingly or unknowingly - before they disappear.

Mods - you're doing a fantastic job.  Your work is much appreciated.

I don't show my picture because I don't feel comfortable showing it yet. Just reality.

I'll just post this here in case anyone decides I'm one of these "pretenders" -- no, the girl in my avatar is not me. I've never attempted to convince anyone she is, and whenever people ask, "Is that you in your avatar," I always laugh and give an, "I wish," type of response. She's there for two reasons. 1) I feel she's a good physical representation of who I am on the inside, and 2) She's what I want to look like someday. She gives me something to work towards, in a sense.

I hope this isn't a problem for anyone. Sephirah often does the same thing with her avatars, after all, using images of girls she feels she would have looked like if she were born cis, or how she'd like to look.

When I'm eligible to have an avatar (this'll be my 5th or 6th post, xD), it'll be a drawing- I'm not there in my transition to feel proud of the way that I look, not yet.

My avatar is not really me.  I don't want to mislead anybody..

Quote from: Pikachu on June 23, 2014, 05:13:22 PM
I'll just post this here in case anyone decides I'm one of these "pretenders" -- no, the girl in my avatar is not me. I've never attempted to convince anyone she is, and whenever people ask, "Is that you in your avatar," I always laugh and give an, "I wish," type of response. She's there for two reasons. 1) I feel she's a good physical representation of who I am on the inside, and 2) She's what I want to look like someday. She gives me something to work towards, in a sense.

I hope this isn't a problem for anyone. Sephirah often does the same thing with her avatars, after all, using images of girls she feels she would have looked like if she were born cis, or how she'd like to look.

No, no, using avatars of other people is not the problem (I'm not really a bus driver, I just play one on tv  :laugh:). The problem arises when someone claims someone else's image as them. Or when asked about the photo, lies that it's them. And it's not that difficult to figure out, since most posers tend to use popular images on the net.

Oftentimes the photo accompanies a bunch of posts that read like a fairytale. Usually there's some perfect prince charming in the mix, etc.

Quote from: __________ on June 23, 2014, 04:38:56 PM
Weeding out the deliberate fakers is very important.  There are plenty of posters here who I deeply respect, and whose experiences and advice I value as much as that of my therapist, my spouse, and my doctors.  It would be absolutely devastating to find out that any of those posters were just elaborate fakers - I can't imagine what that would do to anyone's confidence and level of trust.

Whatever can be done to protect the integrity of this site should be done.  This place is far more than an internet screwing-around discussion board.  It's a vitally-important resource for many of us who need to connect in a community which is naturally rather guarded.  Thankfully, most of the weirdos show their true colors very quickly, but there may be some who can do plenty of damage - knowingly or unknowingly - before they disappear.

Mods - you're doing a fantastic job.  Your work is much appreciated.

Yeah, it would seem like harmless fantasy, but it's not. They're engaging the members in their story and deceiving them, leeching their time and sympathy. We had one awhile back that drew a lot of people in. For months, everyone was so concerned for her and engaged with her story. It wasn't until after she had undergone several face transplants, and her 'boyfriend' was on here updating us about her recovery (with the exact same distinctive posting style she used) that people started to realize they'd been had. The whole 'face transplants' thing was apparently to explain why her photos were of different women.

It's just not fair to the real members here sharing their real stories.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on June 23, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Yeah... posting pictures of genetic females and trying to claim that they're trans women is seriously not cool...

It results in really nasty bouts of dysphoria for those who actually are trans, because it makes us feel like we got cheated in the genetic lottery, and it's kind of torturous to think that someone else's life is all peaches and roses appearance-wise while we have to suffer and scratch and claw for every single iota of our femininity.

This too. Sure, there are plenty of lovely trans ladies here indistinguishable from cis women. But passing off a cis girl as a trans girl is just plain wrong. And could cause confusion as to what can be realistically achieved results wise. Especially if a bunch of people do it.

Bottomline - we're interested in who you really are, your real story, and if you share it, your real face. We don't want to hear your fairytales. I'd suggest some fiction sites for that.

Quote from: FA on June 23, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
(I'm not really a bus driver, I just play one on tv  :laugh:).

Come on FA, that ain't really you? Crap. Actually I love Jackie Gleason and I maybe dating myself (get ya'lls minds out of the gutters for those that went there) but I loved the Honeymooners.

Quote from: jamienicoled on June 23, 2014, 05:42:46 PM
Haha...thanks Candice ...and trust me, I did! :-D  I can safely say (because I asked my wife...lol) that your also very beautiful. :)

Funny quick story: I was once told by someone I know that I look like Jennifer Aniston and I thought ...Your nutz! Then...I got it again... and a third.. and a fourth time. I started thinking my wife was behind some joke or something...lol THEN...there I was, laying on the O.R. table in Thailand ...and the nurse... whom I've never met or seen before in my life ...and who couldn't hardly speak english. She starts trying to say what I though was my name. Struggling through "J..Ja..Jaa" So I'm like, "Yes, :) my name is Jamie." Then she's says, "No, no, no... Jee Jenn.. Jennifer Aniston." I started laughing and figured, I guess maybe?.... I still don't see it though...lol  but apparently a half a doz people or so that I know ...and some non-english speaking nurse at Aikchol Hospital in Chonburi Thailand thinks I look like her....lmao

Yeah I can see a resemblence to Jennifer Aniston too. It may be the hair. I don't think I have ever seen Jennifer Aniston smile so happy though, but I ain't ever seen her drinkin' wine either. Just saying... Wine is fine. But beer's better. ;)

This is the sort of thread where you think, "There's a story here and I'm so happy I don't know it." 

No possibility of pictures for me for a few more posts.  Probably just as well at the moment, honestly. 

Quote from: CandiceSkirvin on June 23, 2014, 05:15:05 PM
You are pretty attractive to me. You are beautiful. You are also right about anyone being a potential target. It's awful, but that's the world today.

Flattery is something I appreciate :) even, if I don't feel beautiful most days.

@all:
This reminds me though, perhaps it is best, if people who take pictures with iPhones and some other phones that put location data into the photograph, to strip the pictures of such data before you post them. Or stop the phone from recording the date in the first place. I do not like the idea that pics are geotagged especially with just how creepy some people can be. Everyone should know info like this: http://netsecurity.about.com/od/iphoneipodtouchapps/a/How-To-Remove-Geotags-From-Pictures-Taken-On-Your-Iphone.htm
(http://netsecurity.about.com/od/iphoneipodtouchapps/a/How-To-Remove-Geotags-From-Pictures-Taken-On-Your-Iphone.htm)

It's a story that just never seems to quit.  I used to be here back when Susan was moderating solo and it was the wild west it seemed like for haters, fakers, and trolls.  Shame that it still happens, but in the back of my mind, I know it always will.

Quote from: Colleen M on June 23, 2014, 05:59:29 PM
This is the sort of thread where you think, "There's a story here and I'm so happy I don't know it." 

LOL

QuoteNo possibility of pictures for me for a few more posts.  Probably just as well at the moment, honestly.

No need to worry. If you're not trying to deceive anyone, you're fine.  :)

"How do you beat a lie detector?  You tell the truth"
Yes in the real world truth is stranger then fiction.  But this is a support site where we all help each other any and which way we can. How is that suppose to work when people try to sell a fantasy. It makes it harder (for me anyway) to trust someone the next time round the tell a tale asking for help and support, or wanting to spread some fantastic news they received

Quote from: jamienicoled on June 23, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
Thank you Jess  :)    ...and for anyone who feels that for some reason they don't want to display photo (and remember, this post was about people displaying a false image of themselves ..not scolding those who wish not to display) ...if your not comfortable with a photo, that's cool... it simply sounds like your not in that comfort zone yet... and for various, important reasons I'm sure! I think we've all been there!? Just keep two things in mind... two very important things for ANY girl... One: Don't be too hard on yourself! And two: Confidence is the key to success!

Thank you. I kinda' got two things goin' on businesswise. And way too many people know me and there is way too many people that may pass through that know me. Like I said I did one time for about ten minutes, but lost my nerve. One day maybe. But thanks for the kind words. Just right now anonimty is my best friend.

Pictures are easy to fake.  A story would be hard and one should be able to determine what is real. 

That is me, five weeks after spending some 16 hours under the scalpel of on Dr Zukowski. I'm updating it tomorrow night as I look a little better.  I shot probably 30 pictures to get that one.

There is a girl here on Susan's that I consider more than a friend whom I love her as a sister even though I don't really know her that well.  She helped me more than she will ever know or understand.  We went out and had Thai last week. 

Abuse of this site dishonors and causes problems for so many that don't need any extra problems. Resist the temptation.

Hugs,

Jen

I agree with the stop faking pics, insults our intelligence and our trust, we all come here for support in one way or another and here we can actually be the real us. Plus has anyone seen the show catfish on mtv lol google image search.

I am real by the way, I have skype if anyone needs a video chat :p

I want to put my own pic up but  I hate the way it looks, no laser yet, very little luck with makeup, and a bad wig. Elsa, is what I am inside.. the stormy battle btwn what I feel,what I look like and the inability to change because of my family. So tho it's not really me, it is.

 :eusa_eh:

Quote from: Colleen M on June 23, 2014, 05:59:29 PMThis is the sort of thread where you think, "There's a story here and I'm so happy I don't know it."

Me too.

I guarantee that all pictures that I claim are me are actually me and all the things I say are true are the truth as I know them at the time. Sometimes they may be conflicting (not having friends vs having friends), but that's because I have abandonment/trust issues and not because I'm willfully lying.
None of my avatars thus far have been me.

No fantasy here. I'm always straightforward and honest to a fault - it's kinda a defense mechanism for some painful secrets in my past. I've only ever told one person those secrets, and then only under duress - and I really regret even that one slip.

I use to put up pic.s and such, but after getting trolled more often then I would like, I settled on an avatar that I found to be cute and somewhat humourous and best displayed my alter ego

Sure, I might have a few similar features in common with my avatar, but obviously at 52 I am not going to look quite as good and don't really feel like outing myself

Maybe sometime in the future if I am able to purchase a system that is supported by the newer system requirements for most current software I might put something up

But don't hold your breath or expect much of anything unless you are a friend because I don't have any time for foes

Love you all

Hugs

V M

Don't worry peeps - if you're not posting someone else's pic and pretending it's you or telling far fetched stories, you're fine. This isn't directed toward you.

For those who are doing this or have done so in the past, or maybe thinking of doing so - it's ok to come clean and talk about it. No judgment. We all make mistakes. Why not share what's really going on with you? Why you felt compelled to fabricate things. Is it a dysphoria issue? An escape? We're here to listen. But we want to listen to the real you. We want the real thing, not an imitation. And I bet the real thing is far more interesting than the fake one. The real face far more interesting and beautiful than the fake one.

I look a lot like my avatar!

I've got a bit of a beaky nose, but other than that...

LOL...

Quote from: big kim on June 23, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
I look a lot like my avatar!

I also have brown hair and I wear glasses. I just don't have a big bushy tail and I'm not as skinny as the squirrel.

And I don't have an anthro porcupine girlfriend.

*sighs*

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on June 23, 2014, 11:55:01 PM
And I don't have an anthro porcupine girlfriend.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.

Quote from: Felix on June 24, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.

:D :D

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on June 23, 2014, 11:55:01 PM
I also have brown hair and I wear glasses. I just don't have a big bushy tail and I'm not as skinny as the squirrel.

And I don't have an anthro porcupine girlfriend.

*sighs*

I guess I can see the resemblance. :D

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,157328.msg1331531.html#msg1331531

Quote from: Felix on June 24, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.

I was going to make a joke about nickel back :P but couldn't make one :P. So how many would that be? The same as me? one?

Anyway I would of thought using the term face transplant would of been a red flag. Ive never had ffs, but refer to it as that because thats how its referred? my guess is a lot of people do too?

As for contradictory posts? :/ sometimes I wonder if I do that. (thinks this might look like guilt, its not) Just a passing thought. About how I notice I react completely opposite to myself in some situations. you know. Like I don't like fighting but ill willing be beaten up so someone I care about doesn't have to, that sounds contradictory to me.

As for my pics? there me :P I have been changing them often lately every horrible one of them :P. Maybe I'm worried your talking about me :p BUT I did live a long time apologising to everybody when they got upset, And never did fully learn, that everything doesn't have to be about me :P. Since I haven't been PM'ed buy the mods. I'm guessing this isn't about me (Then again why would it) phew. Once again (Probably makes me look guilty of it)

But I just need to post something, and these ARE MY  thoughts :P. Since I read all the pages before this one, I wasn't going to settle for a three word post. I think everything that is to be said concerning the affects of such things has been said. I don't think another vote agreeing with them will add much more weight to it, even though I do, and have. (Contradictory once again :P).

EDIT --- much more smileys then normal, maybe I'm just paranoid now. I suppose existing as I do, in this state of needing, feeling like I need to prove myself to people, coming across fakers is a real blow. And makes one wonder if people here just as some that are not think I'm fake. So you can add causing paranoia to list of affects pretending can do. And I feel weird now too. Like this was one extremely un-needed post. No I'm not paranoid that's not it, It's the recognition that this sort of thing can cause us to doubt others. And I'm just worried and grr maybe I am paranoid (ouch my head), that I'll become assaulted with the same sorts of suspicions as I do outside of here. Especially since I and I believe lots of other come here to get away from all that. And pretenders just make my feelings concerning the doubt I receive from others feel marginalised, you know. Kind of like can you blame people that doubt us when those that pretend exist :(

So I started Writing again after seeing a load of smileys and wrote another SA. Laughs at the though of people reading my post history, and then hurts a little of the implications of it. If people are doing that, then Its just one more un-necessary hassle caused by fakery. 

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 24, 2014, 12:23:27 AM
I guess I can see the resemblance. :D

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,157328.msg1331531.html#msg1331531

She also has a much nicer chest than I do. :D

Quote from: ButterflyVickster on June 24, 2014, 12:24:37 AM
And makes one wonder if people here just as some that are not think I'm fake.

You are fine BV, trust me on this.  :icon_hug:

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 24, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
You are fine BV, trust me on this.  :icon_hug:

Thanks you :). some how I Imagine, there is a whole much larger conversation going on in the invisible mod only part of the tardis of susans :).
Smiled at the prospect of having undergone a review and passed :P. sighs if only I was the much the centre of attention here :P

Hugs you back :)

Butterfly, not for nothing, but I've seen some of your avatars where you look attractive. I think it was an outdoor shot. I think you're doing fine.

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 24, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
You are fine BV, trust me on this.  :icon_hug:

Jessica

Don't want to run foul of the spirit of the new avatar guidelines but would like a ruling on my avatar and have sent a PM to FA requesting this but have not had a response.  My avatar is 'Asia 10' from the small selection provided on Susan's avatar gallery.  As a non binary I do not look anything like the avatar but there again I am not pretending that it is even a remote likeness.  I am however definitely representing myself as Aisla, with all of my questions, challenges, concerns and fears.  Hope that this is enough to allow me to keep the avatar as I have become quite attached to it!

Keep or delete?

Aisla

Keep. The issue is people passing off pics that they say are them which aren't. You're not doing that so there's no problem. :)

Thank you Grace.   You have made my day  ;D

Aisla

Definitely keep it. You are doing great here! :)

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FA can we have this over the Mod meeting room door?

I'm pretty sure my avatar is me - Hey who else could be so cute :laugh: (No I don't have an ego problem :laugh:)

Quote from: Cindy on June 24, 2014, 03:50:45 AM

FA can we have this over the Mod meeting room door?

We have a meeting room?  :o I am always the last to know!  ::)

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 24, 2014, 03:58:06 AM
We have a meeting room?  :o I am always the last to know!  ::)

Oh it's the one next to the broom cupboard we keep guiding you too.

(Jeez some new mods are slow.)

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 24, 2014, 03:48:24 AM
Definitely keep it. You are doing great here! :)

Jessica

Many thanks   I love this place

Aisla

I can assure You all my Avitar is me I picked one of the Best of course .Who wouldn't LOL Makeup and a good wig can help a lot .

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 24, 2014, 03:58:06 AM
We have a meeting room?  :o I am always the last to know!  ::)

Its just a thought Jessica, but do you se this site like I do? keep refreshing recent topics? it might be that, those bigger on the inside parts don't show up on the outside. aka mod room posts don't show in recent topics? just a thought. :) (don't know if its true)

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Quote from: Cindy on June 24, 2014, 03:50:45 AM
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FA can we have this over the Mod meeting room door?

I'm pretty sure my avatar is me - Hey who else could be so cute :laugh: (No I don't have an ego problem :laugh:)

lol, cindy, I can imagine you looked exactly like your avatar when you read that.

Quote from: Cindy on June 24, 2014, 04:16:23 AM
Oh it's the one next to the broom cupboard we keep guiding you too.

That explains things, been wondering who'd been muckin' about in there

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 24, 2014, 03:11:28 AM
Keep. The issue is people passing off pics that they say are them which aren't. You're not doing that so there's no problem. :)

Exactly. Mine has changed many times. For a while, it was Archer from the animated TV show. I've often thought he represents the little devil on my left shoulder. The little angel on my right shoulder is Lucifer.  :angel:

I used to post pics on the site a lot and every one of them was 100% me. I may not be the prettiest woman in the world but I am real. And my life is my real life no fantasy online transition for me. I'll admit I used to over share pics quite a bit because of my own insecurities. But since gaining confidence in myself as a woman I don't feel that need anymore. :)

That picture is of myself and my loving husband.  She and I have been through too much to pretend about anything.

I've had a number of avatars here over the years.  Early on I used some of the site provide ones.  It took great courage the first time to post a picture of my true self.  It was part of my coming out process.  I wanted the world to know who the real "me" was.

I do admit that there were times when I used avatars to express how I felt rather than what I actually looked like.  For several weeks I used the creature from the black lagoon following my FFS.  Besides, I didn't really think you wanted to see my swollen and bloody face.

I may change my avatar again, after all isn't that a woman's prerogative?  But whatever it changes to, it will be who I know myself to be.

I gave up pretending a long time ago.

-Sandy

I have seen a few posts around here lately that I knew were bull>-bleeped-<. It is irritating, but it is the internet after all. I just let the ole' BS Filter do it's thing.

Thank you, mods for curbing this though, because as we know it can eventually get too deep to walk through.

I do not think I have enough time to deal with my own life much less maintain a second fantasy alternate reality.

Quote from: TiffanyT on June 24, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
I do not think I have enough time to deal with my own life much less maintain a second fantasy alternate reality.

So true.  I don't get it either. 

Excuse me, but I have to go feed my pet unicorn and chase some leprechauns off my lawn now.  :P

And OMG, I pity anyone who jerks off to my pics. 

Quote from: Jill F on June 24, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
So true.  I don't get it either. 

Excuse me, but I have to go feed my pet unicorn and chase some leprechauns off my lawn now.  :P

And OMG, I pity anyone who jerks off to my pics.

:D :D :D

One person like this has been banned for 7 days. We give people enough rope to get themselves into trouble then when they do...

I've posted my picture ever since I was allowed to, but I am fine with however someone wishes to present themselves as long as it is not fraudulent.  It is troubling, but not unexpected that some posts are from phantasmal creations.  This place it too important for misrepresentation to be tolerated as an ongoing state.  I have presented deeply personal thoughts, and share both revelation and sorrow here.  It is sad, but I guess I am grateful for the rules, and for the people who care enough to be watchful.  Thank you Susan, and all of your crew.

Julie

I'm not sure it's been mentioned yet, but it's also not fair to the person who's picture you're using. You're misrepresenting them. I've had my picture used on Grindr before I even was using Grindr myself. I met someone for the first time who had all these preconceived notions about my personality that were not accurate because that person wasn't me. Good thing he told me he saw me on Grindr so I could correct him and point out that I was not on that app at all. It's not polite at all.

I did actually later get on Grindr and ran it a few times over the next several days and now I never run it. I'm just too old for that sort of tomfoolery.

I like to use forum avatars to mainly celebrate my Doctor Who fandom, currently it's Juliet Landrau as Lady Trey a future incarnation of the former travelling companion of the Doctor's, Romanadvoratrelundar (or Romana for short, played on telly by Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward).  Before that it was Emma G. Chambers as Alice Tinker from The Vicar of Dibley who was dressed in a 10th Doctor costume.  I make no excuses for my fandom, the show's been a part of my life since I was six years old and watching VHS and DVD copies of the stories has been at times one of the support mechanisms I've relied on to keep me sane and alive over the years before I was able to come out and transition.  Though if it becomes a rule to use just images of myself then so be it

Quote from: Jill F on June 23, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
I am one of those who has felt violated.  Lying about the avatar picture is one thing, but I have also read some "experiences" lately that don't exactly add up either.  I feel like I have wasted considerable time and effort in some attempts to be helpful.  I never really thought of this place as crawling with trolls or pathological liars until lately, and now, unfortunately, I have had to pull out a few extra grains of salt.

I am 100% for real and I don't have to worry about keeping my story straight, because what I tell is the straight story.  I'm guessing you all know that by now. 

And yes, that supermodel in my avatar pics is actually me.

I don't post much but i just wanted to come out of hiding to reassure you that whilst an original poster may be spinning you a yarn and yanking your chain with a story its not to say that there are not others out there like me reading your truthful responses and benefiting from them, so all is not lost and your time not wasted even if an OP isn't the one benefiting.

Whilst I'm here in the limelight I will also thank all the regular posters for their answers to questions i haven't even asked.

Debbie

PS, Yes the pic is of me, well for the split second it took the camera to capture the image, if only the wind had changed at the same moment or was that information about getting stuck like that an old wives tale as well.

Quote from: Debbie55 on June 24, 2014, 03:07:16 PM
I don't post much but i just wanted to come out of hiding to reassure you that whilst an original poster may be spinning you a yarn and yanking your chain with a story its not to say that there are not others out there like me reading your truthful responses and benefiting from them, so all is not lost and your time not wasted even if an OP isn't the one benefiting.

Thank you.  You just made me feel a lot better.

Also just to put it out there since I just changed it again but any real people in my avatars have always been and probably always will be me.  I can use drawings  but real other people feels kinda weird

i just dont show myself on my profile pic because i dont yet look apart lol so i'm staying with nightcore pics for now

I just uploaded mine!

Quote from: CandiceSkirvin on June 24, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
This thread makes me want to watch old episodes of Catfish. I love that show, but I also find it disturbing and sad at times. I love the happy endings though. Hopefully there are a lot more happy ending types here on Susan's than there are totally fake types. I tend to have too much faith in people though.

Yeah... it's hard because some people end up fooling themselves too. I mean, there's a lot of pressure to know who you are.

all i know is that, i just started coming clean about the real me though i still do have reserves but as far as i can tell, everyone here has been honest sometimes to the point of brutality but i rather the brutal truth than the sugarcoated lies i always get

Quote from: sad panda on June 24, 2014, 04:46:54 PM
Also just to put it out there since I just changed it again but any real people in my avatars have always been and probably always will be me.  I can use drawings  but real other people feels kinda weird

I think I'd be able to spot that gorgeous face a mile away. No explanation necessary for me!

awww thanks jenny  :)

<-----i worked up the courage to post a real picture of myself o: cyclops power xD

Quote from: jamienicoled on June 23, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
lol... Too cute :)

Just so you do know though, the shark is not real.

I actually never noticed this XD but I'm not hurt about it, if someone does it, it's because they have some problems with themselves maybe...

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 24, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
<-----i worked up the courage to post a real picture of myself o: cyclops power xD

Hah, is that your headphones?

Quote from: sad panda on June 24, 2014, 05:22:28 PM
Hah, is that your headphones?

maybe xD   ;D having a bad hair day so i decided just to go cyclops since my headphones would just make it worse lol

It makes you look like you're in a sci-fi movie! XD (sorry for getting off topic)

well now everyone knows what i look like, well somewhat since i'm hiding a good portion or my face but i have my reason lol

btw random but I was just reminded of this and thought it fit this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNE-7DyLJ5w

Marina <3 I love her but I don't understand how this fits the topic XD

Uh, someone out there is faking on susan's and probably singing those lyrics to themselves

>I wanna be a bottle blonde
I don't know why but I feel conned
I wanna be an idle teen
I wish I hadn't been so clean
I wanna stay inside all day
I want the world to go away
I want blood, guts and chocolate cake
I wanna be a real fake

o: i want blood, guts, and chocolate cake xD

hate to steal the tread for a sec but its there a thread so i can post my voice samples already out? xD

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 24, 2014, 06:10:51 PM
hate to steal the tread for a sec but its there a thread so i can post my voice samples already out? xD

Does my voice pass? thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,126967.0.html)

Quote from: sad panda on June 24, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Does my voice pass? thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,126967.0.html)

thnx hun xD was trying to search for it but ended up with nada and a headache to boot xD

Quote from: sad panda on June 24, 2014, 04:46:54 PM
Also just to put it out there since I just changed it again but any real people in my avatars have always been and probably always will be me.  I can use drawings  but real other people feels kinda weird

Same aside from very obviously fictional characters (ex: Rumpelstiltskin). I've considered using pics of real people, not to claim that they were me but just because I like them, but it just seemed weird.

'm gonna keep using cartoon characters with the name Luna.  I be scary.

More seriously, some of us need to keep relatively anonymous to protect those dear to us, or are in situations where getting outed is not an option.  Generally posters in this category are consistent with their stories, and stay around for a decent amount of time.

If I'm a faker, then I've been trololol for about 2 years.  :). (Then again I have never actually posted in the introduction thread...)

Troll posters with fake stories are annoying, and will continue to occur.  Sometimes the posts require well thought out answers and using the time on someone who is not genuine is time wasted.

Quote from: luna nyan on June 24, 2014, 09:45:05 PM

Troll posters with fake stories are annoying, and will continue to occur.  Sometimes the posts require well thought out answers and using the time on someone who is not genuine is time wasted.

Don't think of it that way, yes time wasted on them, but whatever well thought out helpful post made you gotta think, others see this too, and hey, time may be wasted on the troll, but not completely wasted as you may've actually done some good afterall with someone else reading that really needed it.  ;) Take a negative and turn it into a positive. Take that damn troll!  ;D

You'll always be a cute little Australian pony to me, Luna. I refuse to believe that's not the real you. ;)

I don't think this post is for persons that choose not to post their own picture, and they used instead a picture of an enimal, cartoon, or whatever... It's just for people that use a picture of someone else a cisperson and pretend that they are them, which is not true... Still, if you use a picture of a cisgender model that is not you and you don't pretend it's you then it's ok!

Quote from: Edge on June 24, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
Same aside from very obviously fictional characters (ex: Rumpelstiltskin). I've considered using pics of real people, not to claim that they were me but just because I like them, but it just seemed weird.

Yeah, I like to use fanart a lot too. Sometimes I feel like that is more me than my own face.  :-\

Quote from: sad panda on June 24, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
Yeah, I like to use fanart a lot too. Sometimes I feel like that is more me than my own face.  :-\

I felt that way about comic book Loki since our personalities are so similar and he's obviously male, but I'm starting to be able to see myself in my face. :)
I hope you do one day too.

I came here looking to share with others a common thread in our lives: the Journey. This thread speaks volumes to me, I am not here to impress anyone, I am here to give and receive support. Can't do that shrouded in bovine fecal matter. That being said, boys and girls... I have a confession to make. The name on my driver's license, well... it's not... Ellie :( This, however, is a snap of me taken with my Android tablet at the end of April, 2014, age 60:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs26.postimg.org%2Fty2jnfoi1%2FEllie_Mavatar.png&hash=375b648bf87e0a101db421e1de94f9ed858df65f)

Looking good Ellie. Maybe we should create an acronym -BFP for bovine fecal matter

As I was taking a wee break from Susan's I wanted to say I've not been banned from claiming I'm a bird or that I'm sane.

Susan's is stronger than the trolls because there are so many authentic, caring people.

Be well, all

Quote from: christopher on June 24, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
Looking good Ellie. Maybe we should create an acronym -BFP for bovine fecal matter

As I was taking a wee break from Susan's I wanted to say I've not been banned from claiming I'm a bird or that I'm sane.

Susan's is stronger than the trolls because there are so many authentic, caring people.

Be well, all

*pokes chris onii-chan* if you leave, i leave to xD

Quote from: christopher on June 24, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
Looking good Ellie. Maybe we should create an acronym -BFP for bovine fecal matter

As I was taking a wee break from Susan's I wanted to say I've not been banned from claiming I'm a bird or that I'm sane.

Susan's is stronger than the trolls because there are so many authentic, caring people.

Be well, all

Thanks Christopher :)
Love the wings, by the way.

Here, I changed mine out, because sometimes you just have to have cheesecake in recovery.

Sadly...I'm obviously not Iron Man but I play him in RP!  8)

I am short as well as cute with crazy hair and tiny feets. A bit on the anxious and often crazy side and would totally rock a go-t! So yeah he's kinda my inner spirit animal ;) But anyone curious as to what I really look like I have pics up in the FTM forum over yonder!

Stay savvy Susan's!

<~~~~~~~~~~~  Seriously.  Who would pretend to be that used up old broad?   ???

I guess I should come clean. That's a REALLY old picture of me. I had facial humanization surgery years ago. In short, I got my ears bobbed.

Quote from: Arch on June 25, 2014, 01:29:28 AM
I guess I should come clean. That's a REALLY old picture of me. I had facial humanization surgery years ago. In short, I got my ears bobbed.

Did you live in a tree and make crackers and cookies?

Quote from: Arch on June 25, 2014, 01:29:28 AM
I had facial humanization surgery years ago.

Just what we need right now. An FHS thread, argh!  :eusa_wall: :icon_shakefist:

Anti FHS thread too. I'm keeping my lovely furry face.

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 24, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
<-----i worked up the courage to post a real picture of myself o: cyclops power xD

Good, it's about time.

hate to steal the tread for a second but through these last 2 months, i feel like i'm still being dishonest. do you guys feel like i havent shared who i am entirely?

Only share as much as you feel comfortable with sharing Brianna. The issue is people being less than honest rather than anyone under sharing. :)

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 25, 2014, 03:21:53 AM
Only share as much as you feel comfortable with sharing Brianna. The issue is people being less than honest rather than anyone under sharing. :)

i guess your right. i just feel like i give half truthful answers most of the time. idk, i'm suddenly getting that ping and it has never happened before. i blame you all for turning me into this  ;D :laugh:

Hon, there is a difference in not telling everything and lying.

Not revealing everything is fine, lying is different.

Quote from: Cindy on June 25, 2014, 03:37:07 AM
Hon, there is a difference in not telling everything and lying.

Not revealing everything is fine, lying is different.

i just dont know which side of the spectrum i fall. i just get the ping i'm cheating myself from the entire truth. ugh! i blame you all doubly for turning me into a walking mess xD

Because this keeps going through my mind on this thread...
I've got to let this out.
http://youtu.be/mLRjFWDGs1g (http://youtu.be/mLRjFWDGs1g)

Go Freddie!  :D

And yes, ideally we would love to see as much honesty as we can around here.  There are many souls at the end of their tether when they post here, and piling a lie on top may be then end for some.

i'll try to work on being more truthful. i guess i can give the introduction i should of given in the beginning because its been a very weird trip lol

There was a user not too long ago who claimed she was a trans girl at an all boys school. I don't know if she is still about. I might be wrong but reading her posts was a lot like reading though a fantasy novel a lot of the time. She couldn't just have found a bf who took her to the prom, this boy also happened to drive a lambourgini given to him by his super wealthy father etc etc.

I wanted to believe all this until i came across this thread.

Quote from: jname on June 25, 2014, 06:04:56 AM
There was a user not too long ago who claimed she was a trans girl at an all boys school. I don't know if she is still about. I might be wrong but reading her posts was a lot like reading though a fantasy novel a lot of the time. She couldn't just have found a bf who took her to the prom, this boy also happened to drive a lambourgini given to him by his super wealthy father etc etc.

I wanted to believe all this until i came across this thread.

Wild flower? I do remember her telling a lot of kinda crazy stories but who really knows? Maybe she just has an interesting life you know? It could be kinda hurtful to say her experiences sound like a fantasy. Wild flower has been here on and off for years, so.

I mean ultimately, you just have to choose what to believe online, and give support to people with no expectations of how they are receiving it. But, usually someone who is making things up actually has a real problem on some level that they're trying to deal with in the wrong way. That was my experience. People who pretend always have some serious real problems they are struggling with. I'm not saying it's right for them to lie, but you have to remember that they are truly struggling with something.

This thread makes me want to remove my picture.... again. :-/ Mind you, I am not sure why anyone would want to be me, but still. Its bad enough with one of me wondering around! Hmmm, I think I may just hide myself again. :-/

Never be rough on people who have fantasy threads.

Our lives are tough.

Sometimes dreams are all we have.

Just be kind, and report things to the Mods.

Mods do a lot of talking to hurt people in the background.

There is nothing wrong about being in pain.

Ahh that's what a support site is about. :laugh:
:-*

Quote from: Cindy on June 25, 2014, 06:43:07 AM
Never be rough on people who have fantasy threads.

Our lives are tough.

Sometimes dreams are all we have.

Just be kind, and report things to the Mods.

Mods do a lot of talking to hurt people in the background.

There is nothing wrong about being in pain.

Ahh that's what a support site is about. :laugh:
:-*

That. Unless there is real damage being done live and let live. It is after all -the Internet-. Actually I wish I didn't feel useless when people come with super serious stuff amongst the fluff.

I feel like I missed some context to this thread... but I admit, some of the details of my non-transition life are obscured for the same reason I don't use a photo of myself, namely that I'd be potentially too recognizable IRL. And I'd rather be honest about things like describing my GRS in full detail here, which I do *not* want linked back to my real identity (it'd be too creepy/weird if my coworkers and acquaintances knew every detail about my genitalia!).

I used to think I was too paranoid, until a brand-new coworker actually did put together my past public career with my current incarnation using only Google and extrapolation, and then came and confronted me with a video of my male self. UGH. I mean, I'm not stealth, and it's not that hard to connect that particular set of dots, but I like to be in control of what I tell people and how.

Quote from: sad panda on June 25, 2014, 06:31:44 AM
Wild flower? I do remember her telling a lot of kinda crazy stories but who really knows? Maybe she just has an interesting life you know? It could be kinda hurtful to say her experiences sound like a fantasy. Wild flower has been here on and off for years, so.

I mean ultimately, you just have to choose what to believe online, and give support to people with no expectations of how they are receiving it. But, usually someone who is making things up actually has a real problem on some level that they're trying to deal with in the wrong way. That was my experience. People who pretend always have some serious real problems they are struggling with. I'm not saying it's right for them to lie, but you have to remember that they are truly struggling with something.

No it wasn't her. Either way who cares. I am happy for her and if those experiences were later revealed to be just stories, whilst i would be disappointed, i wouldn't really care.

I'd like to clarify that i'm not trying to pass my avatar picture off as me, he's just my pooch.

I agree 100% with FA that we don't need fakes here, the majority are honestly struggling with our various problems & don't need to be wasting our time on fakes.

I think that if people aren't comfortable with having their photo as an avatar then that's fine, there's no need to pass someone elses photo off as yours as we understand why someone may wish to keep certain things private.

QuoteI'd like to clarify that i'm not trying to pass my avatar picture off as me

Same here.  :icon_mrgreen:

It concerns me a bit that so many people here do post pictures of themselves, as avatars or otherwise, given that privacy online is effectively nonexistent. Face recognition technology is about at the point where someone can find an image, do a search for that face, and identify its user; certainly the gummint, Facebook, etc. have the ability to do this.

Quote from: Cindy on June 25, 2014, 06:43:07 AM
Never be rough on people who have fantasy threads.

I leave my fantasy stuff for the fanfics.

Quote from: Tysilio on June 25, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
Same here.  :icon_mrgreen:

It concerns me a bit that so many people here do post pictures of themselves, as avatars or otherwise, given that privacy online is effectively nonexistent. Face recognition technology is about at the point where someone can find an image, do a search for that face, and identify its user; certainly the gummint, Facebook, etc. have the ability to do this.

I just assume everyone knows who I am, where I live, and by now I'm sure there are records of the last time I took a dump or drank a beer.  The fact I'm trans is pretty common knowledge and I just assume it's a well known fact now.

When George Clooney essentially shut down my entire neighborhood a couple of years ago because he had Obama over for a dinner party fundraiser, they set up Secret Service checkpoints to get in and out of Fryman Canyon.   When I drove in, the guys with guns stopped me and I already had my ID ready to go.  I didn't even have to show it because they said, "Go ahead, we already know who you are, Mr. XXXXXXX".  The car I was driving wasn't even registered in my name.  Apparently they had a database ready to go with details about thousands of people as well as their pictures. 

Scary much?

That doesn't surprise me. I've told people in my town that we've been living in "1984" for a while now. They just give me this blank stare in return.

Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 07:23:53 AM
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I used to think I was too paranoid, until a brand-new coworker actually did put together my past public career with my current incarnation using only Google and extrapolation, and then came and confronted me with a video of my male self. UGH. I mean, I'm not stealth, and it's not that hard to connect that particular set of dots, but I like to be in control of what I tell people and how.

OK, just saying... but the "brand-new coworker"? Creepy.

I'm crazy scared about putting my pic up and being spotted by someone I know, but it is for now.  I know I don't pass, hence, why I'm hiding my face,

<---  but that is me.

Many of us use toon avatars, some, to hide the pain and hurt, some to just be funny, some to inform.. 'don't know how long I'll be brave enough to have me actually there either.

I've often used other ciswomen for avatars on other sites and im programs, always though stating when asked that it was not me.  There was also an abundance of people using models and other found images as their avatars so the main assumption was always Probably not the actual person.

On here though, IDK, didn't feel right to me (not at all a judgement on anyone using a model or found image as their avatar, this was more a personal thing).  Yet I'm still pre-everything, so taking an actual photo would be as "not me" as anything else.  Sure it's the face I wear and was born too, but well, don't think I really have to explain further.

Hence my over abundance of personal artwork for my avatars. 

Ellie : Thanks - I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that creepy. (The whole encounter was unpleasant, since he seemed accusatory or something.)

i know its wrong, but i cant find the comfortability to keep my actually self as my profile pic, but you all know what i look like so

Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 07:23:53 AM
II used to think I was too paranoid, until a brand-new coworker actually did put together my past public career with my current incarnation using only Google and extrapolation, and then came and confronted me with a video of my male self. UGH. I mean, I'm not stealth, and it's not that hard to connect that particular set of dots, but I like to be in control of what I tell people and how.

That is way past creepy maybe even borderline dangerous. I mean even though it might have been fairly easy that was a lot of work and a lot of research to go through for what? A brand new coworker at that? I think I would have done a little research afterward on that coworker myself.

Jess : I asked around a little myself, yeah. Turns out he's a major gossip, overheard my boss slip on pronouns (ARGH) and went digging.  Apparently he was kinda deflated when he tried to tell long-time people who'd known me pre-transition and they were all like "...and?" :)  He did similar crap with the boss's divorce (who cares?) and then people lost patience with him and he either dropped it or at least quit spreading tales.

Luckily, he didn't last long; turns out *he* had something major - think felony, and about kids - lurking and that was the end of his employment. Maybe that's why he was so snoopy about other people, I dunno.

So now I'm a touch paranoid. Again, not stealth, but also not interested in being The Token Trans at every turn, you know?

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 25, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
i know its wrong, but i cant find the comfortability to keep my actually self as my profile pic, but you all know what i look like so

It's not wrong Bri.  I'm the same way.  This thread isn't saying you have to use your actual self as a profile pic.  It also isn't saying it's wrong to use someone else as one.

It is however saying that using someone else as one AND claiming or implying either directly or indirectly that that person is you is wrong.  And making up false histories and pasts and presenting them as truth is wrong.

Quote from: Colleen♡Callie on June 25, 2014, 02:45:59 PM
It's not wrong Bri.  I'm the same way.  This thread isn't saying you have to use your actual self as a profile pic.  It also isn't saying it's wrong to use someone else as one.

It is however saying that using someone else as one AND claiming or implying either directly or indirectly that that person is you is wrong.  And making up false histories and pasts and presenting them as truth is wrong.

lol. i'm like an open book so it would be impossible for me to pretend to be someone else, so you have no worries about me pretending to be someone i'm not. even in my mmorpgs i cant pretend to be someone else without throwing suspicious flags all over lol

Quote from: Jenna Marie on June 25, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
Jess : I asked around a little myself, yeah. Turns out he's a major gossip, overheard my boss slip on pronouns (ARGH) and went digging.  Apparently he was kinda deflated when he tried to tell long-time people who'd known me pre-transition and they were all like "...and?" :)  He did similar crap with the boss's divorce (who cares?) and then people lost patience with him and he either dropped it or at least quit spreading tales.

Luckily, he didn't last long; turns out *he* had something major - think felony, and about kids - lurking and that was the end of his employment. Maybe that's why he was so snoopy about other people, I dunno.

So now I'm a touch paranoid. Again, not stealth, but also not interested in being The Token Trans at every turn, you know?

There are a lot of weird people out there but I think that takes the cake. Just to gossip? Not to say I don't not like good natured gossiping about who is dating who, what so and so is wearing, so and so is soooo cute or adorable and so on. If it starts taking a mean or hurtful direction I just back out of it. But that sounds almost on the line of sinister or someone possibly looking into blackmailing someone.

Quote from: FA on June 23, 2014, 05:41:59 PM

Yeah, it would seem like harmless fantasy, but it's not. They're engaging the members in their story and deceiving them, leeching their time and sympathy. We had one awhile back that drew a lot of people in. For months, everyone was so concerned for her and engaged with her story. It wasn't until after she had undergone several face transplants, and her 'boyfriend' was on here updating us about her recovery (with the exact same distinctive posting style she used) that people started to realize they'd been had. The whole 'face transplants' thing was apparently to explain why her photos were of different women.

Oh my goodness I think I remember that one from the first time I was here a few years back.  My username was Rini then.  Of course you could be talking about a different scenario in which case that just proves your point even further. IIRC they were going to drive their car off a cliff into some body of water?  My god it was one of the most dramatic things I've read in a long time.  TBS material, DRAMA dum dum dum!  I don't think I'll be posting any pics until I've made significant process in my HRT.  And even then, I'll only have them up for a while.

Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 25, 2014, 04:59:55 PM

Quote from: FA on June 23, 2014, 05:41:59 PM

Yeah, it would seem like harmless fantasy, but it's not. They're engaging the members in their story and deceiving them, leeching their time and sympathy. We had one awhile back that drew a lot of people in. For months, everyone was so concerned for her and engaged with her story. It wasn't until after she had undergone several face transplants, and her 'boyfriend' was on here updating us about her recovery (with the exact same distinctive posting style she used) that people started to realize they'd been had. The whole 'face transplants' thing was apparently to explain why her photos were of different women.

Oh my goodness I think I remember that one from the first time I was here a few years back.  My username was Rini then.  Of course you could be talking about a different scenario in which case that just proves your point even further. IIRC they were going to drive their car off a cliff into some body of water?  My god it was one of the most dramatic things I've read in a long time.  TBS material, DRAMA dum dum dum!  I don't think I'll be posting any pics until I've made significant process in my HRT.  And even then, I'll only have them up for a while.

I don't remember the particulars, but could be the same one. The story started out as reasonable and our members empathized and rallied around her, concerned about her troubles, and happy with her successes. But once she had people hooked, it got less believable.  Suddenly, there were photos that didn't match up with what she previously shared. They were clearly of several different women. So, then we had the facial surgery saga. And the boyfriend posting on her behalf. Uh huh.  ::) By the time it got ridiculous and obvious, members had already been sucked in.

It's just not right on this type of forum. I mean, I sympathize, because obviously they've got issues. But our members are real people here with real feelings connecting on common ground. They don't deserve to be taken for a ride.

Quote from: Tysilio on June 25, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
It concerns me a bit that so many people here do post pictures of themselves, as avatars or otherwise, given that privacy online is effectively nonexistent. Face recognition technology is about at the point where someone can find an image, do a search for that face, and identify its user; certainly the gummint, Facebook, etc. have the ability to do this.

I have a kid in public school and I use a lot of government (or government-affiliated) services, so I am not allowed to be stealth in very many contexts. I think my neighbors don't know, but that's just because  my existence isn't relevant enough to them to prompt a google search. I hope that being easily findable online actually alleviates people's curiosity enough to make my life easier. I do try to always be ready to answer questions, though. Just being visible doesn't accomplish much in a world where most people are only recently finding out that we exist.

Thanks for thread & for your effort to try & keep things honest. I've been a member for 2-3 years on & off. There have been some people posting smoke however not many.  My best to all of us members. Those are for sure my green eyes, 15 days after my facelift. I'm feeling better each day & so very glad. 

There are several reason's I do not post a pic:

1) My wife threatened divorce if I come out publicly, she is afraid my daughter will be treated poorly and she will be pitied by coworkers ( she is ashamed of me),
2) HR has sent me several articles of transwoman coming out at work and a video and I am really scared people will find out and my life will be altered to satisfy their desires,
3) I look like a guy and 13 months on hormones has not changed that. I was looking in the mirror the other day and said to myself I look a little cuter,
4) I have a difficult time looking at a  beautiful woman and seeing myself.
5) The avatar issue is something I think about every time I come here, I feel like a chicken,
6) Every word I have written at Susan's is of me and true.

I use one of the avatars from the library on the site, and it is clearly artwork and NOT me.  I decline to post any picture for all the Internet privacy concerns repeated here.  I am in no way out.  All of my text is true and about me - since I live a really boring life there is no drama to draw attention.  The only "dramatic" thing I have had happen was a mega kitchen disaster that prompted my neighbor to come and see if I was OK after seeing the smoke venting out my windows and hearing the smoke alarm.  That is as exciting as I get...

I sort of have some compassion for those who have such serious issues they need to post fantasy stuff to get sympathy.  It stinks that they waste other members time and concern, but they must be really hurting in some way to feel they need to do that.  This is just sad.


Erin

Who would have thought this topic would draw so many posts? Yup what you see there is as much of me as I'll show cause I ain't pretty like some of you (sniff) and besides I need my anonymity for my family's sake.

It's my post FFS update......

I'm real!!!!!!  I'm going to send a PM to shan and jennygirl with before and after pics next week.  If they believe it, I'll post.  If not, well, I was there and can't believe it.

Hugs

Jen

fyi my avatar pic is not me.  are you surprised?  :o  ;)   i don't think she (my avatar) is real either; what i mean is that she has been digitally enhanced to look artificial.  if you've been here for as long as i have, you know that i've never posted a real pic of myself.  Like FA says, nowadays it is very easy to do a picture reverse search on google.  just sayin' 

Quote from: Natasha on June 27, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
fyi my avatar pic is not me.  are you surprised?  :o  ;)   i don't think she (my avatar) is real either; what i mean is that she has been digitally enhanced to look artificial.  if you've been here for as long as i have, you know that i've never posted a real pic of myself.  Like FA says, nowadays it is very easy to do a picture reverse search on google.  just sayin'

It's ok and kind of smart anyway Natasha, besides we know you're a mighty fine woman anyway! Bowers doesn't take any flops!  :)

Quote from: Tysilio on June 25, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
Same here.  :icon_mrgreen:

It concerns me a bit that so many people here do post pictures of themselves, as avatars or otherwise, given that privacy online is effectively nonexistent. Face recognition technology is about at the point where someone can find an image, do a search for that face, and identify its user; certainly the gummint, Facebook, etc. have the ability to do this.

This is the only place I've ever felt like posting my pic. I'm less concerned about my face than I am about my credit history or all the other data and identity stuff that gets lost. The people that want to cause me harm only see me as a serious of numbers and expiration dates anyway.

Quote from: TiffanyT on June 28, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
This is the only place I've ever felt like posting my pic. I'm less concerned about my face than I am about my credit history or all the other data and identity stuff that gets lost. The people that want to cause me harm only see me as a serious of numbers and expiration dates anyway.

You do make a good point there Tiff!

Quote from: Natasha on June 27, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
Like FA says, nowadays it is very easy to do a picture reverse search on google.  just sayin'

Yeah, but I've also done image searches on certain things that are related to things that I like (such as the Get Along Gang, Tenchi Universe) and some images have come back as being linked to here since I used them as avatars or in other types of threads. Anyone with a triple digit IQ could put two and two together. It doesn't bother me at all.

Quote from: Jill F on June 25, 2014, 01:40:23 AMDid you live in a tree and make crackers and cookies?

No, I preyed on those guys, and they were mighty delicious. :P

Funny that this thread has legs. 

I post my picture because it might be useful to someone new to know that the fear of discovery or failure can, and sometimes does, vanish into the mist.  I am Julie, nothing more and nothing less.  To live an authentic life is still new to me, and that authenticity is enhanced by not being a secret here or anywhere else.  It is my hope and prayer that frightened and unsure people are able to find answers within the forums of Susan's or wherever the find wisdom and so continue to grow and to begin to live life as a journey where they can be who they actually are.  The costs to so many are so high that many simply give up and withdraw into an emotional nadir.  If that I am out full time all the time and neither afraid to be seen, nor afraid to tell my truth helps anyone at all, I am successful as a human becoming.

Susan's was my lifeline a couple of years ago, and the place where I found my voice this year.  That is my story and why you will see my visage now and as I grow into womanhood.  What anyone else chooses is none of my business, and none of my concern.  Your avatars are the image I see when I read or think about what you share and teach in these pages.  If we ever meet in the real world, I will celebrate who you are and delight in seeing your smile.  Till then thank you ...

Julie

Quote from: Cynthia Michelle on June 26, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
5) The avatar issue is something I think about every time I come here, I feel like a chicken.

As someone who also does not post a real-life pic, I urge you to give yourself a break. There's no reason you should beat yourself up for protecting yourself in this way. It's your choice and your right to not post a pic.

And, yes, the split infinitive was intentional, mwahaha!

Ehhh I avoid any RL pictures really. For 2 reasons.

1: Shyness.

2: I prefer using anime pics for it.

I'm not gonna go and say that's me when it's clearly not. Well unless I get a comission of one of my WoW toons then I MIGHT since it IS a version of me. XD

My profile pic is and always has been me.. The current pic just isn't very current - it'd be 20+ years old.. lol

I can completely understand some people's concerns about posting a real pic of themselves.  I was the same way for many years.  But these days, for me, there is so much water under the bridge of my life that I just don't worry about it much any more.  I am completely out to all my friends and family.  In fact, I just learned two nights ago from my little sister that my parents have two pics of me fully dressed from a few years ago in the family photo album. 

I don't advertise my proclivities to my coworkers generally (except a couple over the years) or my clients.  I work in a majorly male dominant industry and coming out would definitely jeopardize my career of 25 years.  If any of them happened upon this site and said they saw me here (assuming they recognized me) my first question to them would be, "So what's YOUR screen name on the site?"    Smile...

Dani

My ava pics are as close to the real me as anyone will ever see here.

Okay...time to come clean...

I am not trans, and I am not from Scotland...

All the pictures and video diaries I post actually feature a finely crafted android I fabricated last year in my spare time.

I am actually a 20 stone male animatronics engineer from Idaho, who just wanted some attention.

I throw myself at your mercy!

Quote from: Danniella on July 03, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
Okay...time to come clean...

I am not trans, and I am not from Scotland...

All the pictures and video diaries I post actually feature a finely crafted android I fabricated last year in my spare time.

I am actually a 20 stone male animatronics engineer from Idaho, who just wanted some attention.

I throw myself at your mercy!

We've known that all along, nothing new here but we love you anyway, so you're stuck with us now!  >:-)

As long as we're coming clean.. 

I am (deep breath here) an closeted, unlicensed magician, from the Ford Galaxy.  I must check in with Agent J and Agent K every week.

And I do not have almost 9000 hours flying a Boeing 757.  Nor have I ever taken any type of bio-identical anything. 

This is my first post, I have never been here before.

Quote from: Paula Christine on July 03, 2014, 08:41:31 AM
As long as we're coming clean.. 

I am (deep breath here) an closeted, unlicensed magician, from the Ford Galaxy.

And I do not have almost 9000 hours flying a Boeing 757.  Nor have I ever taken any type of bio-identical anything.

Confession is cleansing for the soul my child, go in peace and sin no more!  :D :laugh:

OK, OK, I confess... my avatar pic isn't a current pic. I choose not to post a current pic because I don't want the wrong sort of people getting hold of it.

But it is a genuine pic of me, taken in the mid-1970s. I chose it because it represents the first moment in my life when I started to realise that all was not well with my gender.

You see that pink ballerina tutu I'm wearing? I loved that thing; I felt so fancy in it. But I felt uncomfortable in the class (around all the other girls), and my mother once commented on my ballet skills that I used to 'clomp about on the stage will all the grace of a carthorse'. Charming.

Anyway, I can also vouch for Jayne's avatar pic being a genuine pic of her pooch because I've had the pleasure of meeting both of them IRL. :)

My avatar is a commission by an artist on DeviantArt.

Quote from: EllieM on June 24, 2014, 11:38:56 PM

Thanks Christopher :)
Love the wings, by the way.

thanks


but... I have to make a confession. I'm not a bird. I don't even give the bird. I am actually a fierce wolverine.

Quote from: christopher on July 03, 2014, 09:38:58 AM
but... I have to make a confession. I'm not a bird. I don't even give the bird. I am actually a fierce wolverine.

...ahhh... carcajou

In addition, when I read the title, I originally read it as:

"No fantasy RACES and lives please"

To which my brain instantly thought:

"Oh dear, the "Creatures of Middle Earth Equal Rights Union" will be furious!"

...

Sometimes I think I am TOO much of a nerd...to the extent wherein it taints and/or warps my perception of reality...but then I just shrug, grab my sword and hop on the pegasus to go off on a mighty quest to slay a dark lord somewhere.

...

Why is everybody looking at me like that?

I thought someone was banning Chrissie Hynde. Pass the lembas. Thanks.

Quote from: Blue Senpai on July 03, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
My avatar is a commission by an artist on DeviantArt.

So is mine.

ROOOOOOOAR

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stadriemblems.com%2Fblog%2Fimages%2Fquebec-3.jpg&hash=dcb5c8c98dd06c65deb7d5b01c678bdca80579f5)

...backing
...away
...real
...slow like...

Quote from: christopher on July 03, 2014, 12:52:10 PM
ROOOOOOOAR

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stadriemblems.com%2Fblog%2Fimages%2Fquebec-3.jpg&hash=dcb5c8c98dd06c65deb7d5b01c678bdca80579f5)

That definately looks like the way I feel after a long night.

Quote from: Danniella on July 03, 2014, 10:19:42 AM
In addition, when I read the title, I originally read it as:

"No fantasy RACES and lives please"

To which my brain instantly thought:

"Oh dear, the "Creatures of Middle Earth Equal Rights Union" will be furious!"

...

Sometimes I think I am TOO much of a nerd...to the extent wherein it taints and/or warps my perception of reality...but then I just shrug, grab my sword and hop on the pegasus to go off on a mighty quest to slay a dark lord somewhere.

...

Why is everybody looking at me like that?

Middle Earth is still earthlings what about those of us from Venus? Am I still welcome here or do I have Phone home for a interplanetary taxi?

Quote from: christopher on July 03, 2014, 12:52:10 PM
ROOOOOOOAR

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I've seen some strange and a aggressive creatures before, but doubt that freakishly over sized wingless bats make good pets

I've put up a few pics of myself, taken from behind.
It was because someone once asked if a pic was me, and it was kinda close.
I did and still do, dress in a similar way, and I had some pics in files that reflected that same one that wasn't me.
I put up the one that wasn't me as I put up the others, as a reflection, nothing more.
Most are just artwork I liked when I saw it, pretty obvious.
The space for an avatar is just a place to put something to me, if it's really you, that's pretty nice.
I stopped using it for awhile, pretty much forgot about it.
Everything in that space is a possible identifier in a way, and I'd rather remain anonymous.
Not for myself so much, but for all the people who are around me and help me in different ways everyday.
Some of these people, I've done stupid things that hurt them in ways they didn't need, yet they forgave me, despite myself.
To have anyone else hurt them because of me is unthinkable and I won't let that happen.
But I really do admire those of you who do put up avatars of yourself, the little pic of authenticity is much bigger than the pic itself.
Someday I hope I have the opportunity to do that myself, not just show my back to you.
I'd like to be more than just a reflection of my moods...
Ativan

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on July 05, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
I've put up a few pics of myself, taken from behind.
It was because someone once asked if a pic was me, and it was kinda close.
I did and still do, dress in a similar way, and I had some pics in files that reflected that same one that wasn't me.
I put up the one that wasn't me as I put up the others, as a reflection, nothing more.
Most are just artwork I liked when I saw it, pretty obvious.
The space for an avatar is just a place to put something to me, if it's really you, that's pretty nice.
I stopped using it for awhile, pretty much forgot about it.
Everything in that space is a possible identifier in a way, and I'd rather remain anonymous.
Not for myself so much, but for all the people who are around me and help me in different ways everyday.
Some of these people, I've done stupid things that hurt them in ways they didn't need, yet they forgave me, despite myself.
To have anyone else hurt them because of me is unthinkable and I won't let that happen.
But I really do admire those of you who do put up avatars of yourself, the little pic of authenticity is much bigger than the pic itself.
Someday I hope I have the opportunity to do that myself, not just show my back to you.
I'd like to be more than just a reflection of my moods...
Ativan

That is interesting. I have never thought of putting one up from behind before. But still I guarantee you there would be someone that one notice from my hair alone. And right now I really can't chance it. Not that I really care but I can almost guarantee that people come across this sight because of a curiosty and some of those may really be buttholes. Anyway my avatar is from the library and is me at least the way I try to feel on the inside. I really don't look like that on the outside.

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on July 05, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
I've put up a few pics of myself, taken from behind.
It was because someone once asked if a pic was me, and it was kinda close.
I did and still do, dress in a similar way, and I had some pics in files that reflected that same one that wasn't me.
I put up the one that wasn't me as I put up the others, as a reflection, nothing more.
Most are just artwork I liked when I saw it, pretty obvious.
The space for an avatar is just a place to put something to me, if it's really you, that's pretty nice.
I stopped using it for awhile, pretty much forgot about it.
Everything in that space is a possible identifier in a way, and I'd rather remain anonymous.
Not for myself so much, but for all the people who are around me and help me in different ways everyday.
Some of these people, I've done stupid things that hurt them in ways they didn't need, yet they forgave me, despite myself.
To have anyone else hurt them because of me is unthinkable and I won't let that happen.
But I really do admire those of you who do put up avatars of yourself, the little pic of authenticity is much bigger than the pic itself.
Someday I hope I have the opportunity to do that myself, not just show my back to you.
I'd like to be more than just a reflection of my moods...
Ativan

I put my picture up there to encourage others.  When I came out at work to so many, it wasn't even worth attempting any type of stealth.  I still meet people everyday who say "Hi Jen" that I am sure I do not know. But if I can do this transition, anyone can.

Ativan, I still love that avitar picture. 

Hugs,

Jen

Hikari, you are very attractive, so, yes, beware of predators.

In general, what is the point of lying here?  There are plenty of porn pretend websites out there.  What I like about this place here, is that I detect a high degree of HONESTY here.  It is impossible on a Website to assure 100% honesty, but the subject matter and comraderie are very strong here.

It is great there are some genetic girls on here.

If you try to describe absurd results, I think that especially the experienced members here will weed that out in a heartbeat.

Those will a lot of experience understand realistic physical and emotional changes.

Although, I have in my short time here met at least one person who says he is living this "vicariously."  Hey, that is fantastic!  Honest, open, and maybe exploring a future alternative for himself.  Hey, more power to ANYONE who honestly states on this website that they are "living the dream of being a woman vicariously."

I can be great friends with someone who states this honestly and openly to me.

Hugs.

My feminine side is emerging more.  This is first time I have used the word "hugs' here.

It would a total lie to state that I have "C" cups in 3 weeks.  Anyone who says THIS is simply a liar, and doesn't belong on this site.  Try a fantasy porn site if you want to make lies like this.

But with REAL and powerful feminine hormones, MY results of bigger protruding nipples and a distinct mound developing between my erect nipples and my areolas is in fact totally TRUE...I mean, I am LOOKING AT THEM RIGHT NOW

And furthermore, to any experienced members here, it is obvious I am telling the complete truth.

I am not claiming my breasts are bigger yet...they in fact MIGHT be...honestly, I am not sure...

I can totally honestly say that, 3 weeks and change into the hormones, I think my breasts are a little rounder...

My protruding nipples are developing mounds between my nipples and areolas...they are REAL...I can see them right now with my own eyes...NO fantasy...total REALITY and I am SO SO SO happy!!!!!

All me and all real in my pride weekend tutu.  I am living my fairy fantasies out loud and proud and you can too!

Quote from: Danniella on July 03, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
Okay...time to come clean...

I am not trans, and I am not from Scotland...

All the pictures and video diaries I post actually feature a finely crafted android I fabricated last year in my spare time.

I am actually a 20 stone male animatronics engineer from Idaho, who just wanted some attention.

I throw myself at your mercy!

Okay now, if you were really from Idaho you wouldn't use the the term "stone" when stating your weight. Unless...Clever girl  :icon_wink:

Quote from: Shannon14 on July 16, 2014, 06:03:03 AM
Okay now, if you were really from Idaho you wouldn't use the the term "stone" when stating your weight. Unless...Clever girl  :icon_wink:

Egads!!!

The complex layers of my fake persona are crumbling!

Okay I admit it! Here is my real picture!

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7106755328/hB19AEA30/)

You happy now!?

Quote from: Danniella on July 16, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
Egads!!!

The complex layers of my fake persona are crumbling!

Okay I admit it! Here is my real picture!

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7106755328/hB19AEA30/)

You happy now!?

Egad!  a twenty stone cat on the loose in Idaho?  Now I am running scared...

Twenty stoned cats?

Did someone buy a king size bag of catnip or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdVTCDdEwI

I would prefer one stoned porcupine, thanks.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi895.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac158%2Fnapalmdeathfan13591%2FStonedPortia.jpg&hash=8e21b9668d30549eea40caf2d70006c9082b8d5b)

How about one slightly drunk animatron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmud53onDE

I pretty much wholeheartedly wish my pic wasn't me...

Quote from: V M on July 03, 2014, 05:34:54 PM
I've seen some strange and a aggressive creatures before, but doubt that freakishly over sized wingless bats make good pets

Wingless bat?? I am not a wingless bat. I may be freakish but I prefer fierce. Wingless bat indeed. I might have to unleash my inner wolverine.

Quote from: christopher on July 16, 2014, 08:04:25 PM
Wingless bat?? I am not a wingless bat. I may be freakish but I prefer fierce. Wingless bat indeed. I might have to unleash my inner wolverine.

Go wolverines! "Red Dawn"

Wow. There's a movie I haven't thought about in a long time

Quote from: christopher on July 16, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
Wow. There's a movie I haven't thought about in a long time

I haven't seen that one in quite awhile either, given the recent stuff going on with the Ukraine makes it kinda surreal

I'm sure wolverines are actually quite cute and cuddly when they're not trying to take someone's leg off  :D

oh no, are people calling me cute and cuddly again? why can't I convince people I'm fierce and... umm... well.. I was going to say mean but I don't think I really want to be mean... hmmm... but I am fierce. Really.

I thot I recognized you Jill.... lol supermodel you are!    You go girl!

Here's your cute:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi895.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac158%2Fnapalmdeathfan13591%2FRandom%2520Pics%2520n%2520Stuff%2FGet%2520Along%2520Gang%2520Screenshots%2FPortiaUneasyRider-1.jpg&hash=ec8388105cfbac7c87dd8a34d2739aab0cd3500d)

Here's your cuddly:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi895.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac158%2Fnapalmdeathfan13591%2F8c94f4f7-a98d-451e-a71c-e487d66e332b.jpg&hash=492446ce445f300d0c1cd1c84e4963715084ae9b)

Its the real Ptarus!
I do this because I've been questioned twice about my picture being fake

So here it is everyone, the proof.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9YeaoPO.jpg&hash=432b4eace5de6d2c9ee904c74f2e93059a6e532f)

Quote from: christopher on July 03, 2014, 12:52:10 PM
ROOOOOOOAR

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stadriemblems.com%2Fblog%2Fimages%2Fquebec-3.jpg&hash=dcb5c8c98dd06c65deb7d5b01c678bdca80579f5)

Oh how CUTE!! Just needs a belly rub and a snack. Awwww :)

Unfortunately this is the real me. In a strange coincidence it is also the last as the camera won't work now> ???

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 20, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
Oh how CUTE!! Just needs a belly rub and a snack. Awwww :)

Unfortunately this is the real me. In a strange coincidence it is also the last as the camera won't work now> ???

Stop forcing it to hold pics of your old self. Poor thing.


Did I hear belly rubz?

There are belly rubs and belly RUBZZZZZ. You get the last one!  ;)

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 20, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
There are belly rubs and belly RUBZZZZZ. You get the last one!  ;)

PURRS, now that is the lady I know!

is my picture ok i think its pretty obvious im not lola bunny although i wouldnt mind that bust to waist ratio and the cute/sexy fluffy tail not sure about the floppy ears though what do think are her ears cute

Quote from: Elanore joey on July 20, 2014, 04:59:14 PM
is my picture ok i think its pretty obvious im not lola bunny although i wouldnt mind that bust to waist ratio and the cute/sexy fluffy tail not sure about the floppy ears though what do think are her ears cute

Lola bunny was my childhood crush.
Now shes just my adulthood crush.

She got those amazing curves lol

Quote from: Nero on June 23, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
When you post a photo or avatar of someone other than yourself and claim or lead our members to believe it's you, you're insulting all of us. Insulting our intelligence (since many of these photos are easily turned up in a google search as being some model who is either a well known cis person or just very unlikely to be you).

You're also >-bleeped-<ting in the face of our many members who have shared their real faces and real lives with us. They were brave enough to share themselves warts and all with us. So don't chicken out and try to pass off a gorgeous cis person as yourself. You don't have to be beautiful to get into this club. You just have to be real. And there are many of us who don't show our faces for privacy reasons. Perfectly understandable as well. Just don't pretend to show your face, unless it's really YOUR face.

If for whatever reason, you want to play out a fantasy on the internet - a fantasy face and fantasy life - please go elsewhere. Fantasy has its place, but it's not here.

Avatars of famous people or models are ok; as long as you're not trying to fool anyone it's you.

Timeless advice.

I agree and I've also come across some stories that I have doubts about.  Another thing about avatars is they can affect your credibility.  I've seen some here and elsewhere that cause me to ignore some people.

Considering this an old thread due to an issue that isn't present currently I'm going to lock this thread.