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Title: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 08:07:56 AM

Hii just wondering about whether it's ok to wear bras with an underwire or not.

I am aware that M&S don't recommend it as it can damage growing buds/restrict growth. I've asked a few doctors, with some saying this is the case and it's a bad idea, but with others that it's absolutely fine...

Does anyone have any experience on this??

Thanks :)

Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: JulieBlair on April 30, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
I didn't begin to wear an under-wire bra until fairly recently (21 mos HRT).  Both because I didn't really need to, and because I was not full time and so kept everything a bit squished up with sports bras.  I've never heard that they could retard breast development, but if you have concerns, run it by your doctor.  My doc smiles at my question quite a bit, but always answers them.

Julie
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: kelly_aus on April 30, 2014, 09:17:27 AM
I avoid them like the plague.. If you don't have to, don't..
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Jenna Marie on April 30, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Huh. I never heard anything like this about them. I started wearing underwires around 6 months in, and if it's restricted any growth, I haven't noticed it!

Personally, I think this might be a myth; if it were true, there'd be tons of medical professionals lining up to tell cis girls not to buy underwire bras during puberty, instead of the "teen department" having dozens of them. Maybe people got it mixed up with the fact that lactating mothers shouldn't wear *tight* bras, as it can restrict the flow of milk and that sometimes leads to mastitis...
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: FrancisAnn on April 30, 2014, 09:46:33 AM
Never, those things hurt, try playtex 18 hour bras, so nice, comfortable.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Heather on April 30, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
I never heard that before. I've been wearing underwire bras throughout my transition and let's just say I'm not lacking in the breast department. Personally I love underwire bras I know a lot of women don't like them but I have no problems with them.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Jenna Marie on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 AM
Heather : I love them, too. I get such terrific shaping and projection with underwire. My wife, though, has never found one that isn't incredibly painful. It must be something about the shape of some people that makes underwire really [un]comfortable.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: noleen111 on April 30, 2014, 11:44:21 AM
I love underwire bra's.. Majority of my bras are underwire.. I love how they shape and riaise my breasts.

I started wearing underwire bra when I hit a cup.. Never restricted my growth..
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Yes!! And I love them too! I bought loads before, since I've been full time a while now, but it's only since I've been on hrt that my breast development is actually happening. And obviously I don't want to damage anything!

I did buy a few without a wire, but they make them seem far too small and it looks a bit odd on me with such small breasts right now :S I hope they'll grow over time :)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 30, 2014, 12:39:39 PM
Quote from: noleen111 on April 30, 2014, 11:44:21 AM
I love underwire bra's.. Majority of my bras are underwire.. I love how they shape and riaise my breasts.

I started wearing underwire bra when I hit a cup.. Never restricted my growth..

I agree. I'm ashamed of the way I look in anything else.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
I'm only an A cup so far and I have both plus two sports bras. I find the sports bras comfortable as long as they're not too tight but I'm just as comfortable in my underwires. However I like the ones I have without the underwiring just as well too. I guess because my breasts are still growing I've kind of a mixed opinion on the subject. As far as bra's with underwires being harmful, I'll have to ask my Endo at my next appointment for I haven't heard anything yet saying they were. :icon_flower:
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: ErinWDK on April 30, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
I forget which bra site I looked at, but it claimed 80% of the bras sold are underwire.  I used to avoid them like the plague, but now that I have a wee bit in the way of  breasts (due to Androgel of all things...) there is one underwire style I really like.  So some like them, others not.  My late wife would not have any underwire bras.

To each their own!


Erin
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 03:00:56 PM
I love my underwire bras for the support and shape they give,

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Fodds%2520n%2520ends%2FA0FB1F6C-A31D-45AA-9ED4-D96441F8DD45_zpskn9ymxdv.jpg&hash=38c621557511ab088dd1ab85372d2053315efd46)

But I really love my cute lacy Bralettes for how comfy they are! They dont add much "shape" but they do keep the "pokie" effect down vs braless ;)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Fodds%2520n%2520ends%2F4b43fed109fb6f6a36f22fc34d5288dc_zps9946d645.jpg&hash=ba358f5273927cf30e321cfc6f18bbd4962fef83)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 03:59:58 PM
Quote from: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
As far as bra's with underwires being harmful, I'll have to ask my Endo at my next appointment for I haven't heard anything yet saying they were. :icon_flower:

YES that would be amazing!!! Can you let us know what they say? :)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
Michelle I just LOVE the bras and bralettes by Gilly Hicks! :)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
Michelle I just LOVE the bras and bralettes by Gilly Hicks! :)

I've been doing a  lot of shopping at honeydewintimates.com lately for Bralettes and other cute things :)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: stephaniec on April 30, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
Yes , love them. they have the extra benefit of protecting against stay bullets too.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 04:15:15 PM
I've been doing a  lot of shopping at honeydewintimates.com lately for Bralettes and other cute things :)
WoW I love those Bralettes. Thanks for the web address Michelle! :icon_flower:
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: eggy_nog on April 30, 2014, 03:59:58 PM
YES that would be amazing!!! Can you let us know what they say? :)
Of course I'll let y'all know what I find out. I won't see him again til June (I just saw him a week ago after bloodwork) but I can post the question on his web portal. That way I'll have an answer for you soon.

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: @Diana on April 30, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
underwire is not recommend for those who just had BAS recently ... but if you are still have breasts from HRT only , then i would say yes, go for it , buy bra with padding , help your breasts in better shape

for me, i rarely wear bra .. but when i go out , i like to wear push-up bra like this

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1087.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj479%2Fveerasatree%2FMe_zps7dac8d7e.jpg&hash=a0eae1f8b83db9a914ab85c11623ea010fff76fc) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/veerasatree/media/Me_zps7dac8d7e.jpg.html)

and this is me, a bit drunk after party lol

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1087.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj479%2Fveerasatree%2FFunny_zps9d455e8f.jpg&hash=ae8baa0ce589fd43e9c1d005cf44ec2e8228601a) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/veerasatree/media/Funny_zps9d455e8f.jpg.html)

Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: DianaVV on April 30, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
underwire is not recommend for those who just had BAS recently ... but if you are still have breasts from HRT only , then i would say yes, go for it , buy bra with padding , help your breasts in better shape

and this is me, a bit drunk after party lol

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1087.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj479%2Fveerasatree%2FFunny_zps9d455e8f.jpg&hash=ae8baa0ce589fd43e9c1d005cf44ec2e8228601a) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/veerasatree/media/Funny_zps9d455e8f.jpg.html)
Lovely photo. What kind of lipstick is that??.........................................
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: @Diana on April 30, 2014, 11:34:34 PM
Quote from: Allyda on April 30, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
Lovely photo. What kind of lipstick is that??.........................................

haha its an app on iphone  ;D
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on May 01, 2014, 12:45:49 AM
Quote from: DianaVV on April 30, 2014, 11:34:34 PM
haha its an app on iphone  ;D
Hahahaha, funny app though, lol!
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: @Diana on May 01, 2014, 01:07:58 AM
Quote from: Allyda on May 01, 2014, 12:45:49 AM
Hahahaha, funny app though, lol!

yes Allyda ! that one in pic i used Line Camera

and there is another one with great beauty make-up app is called Perfect365 , you should try ! its on Android phone too i think  ;D
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Allyda on May 01, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
Quote from: DianaVV on May 01, 2014, 01:07:58 AM
yes Allyda ! that one in pic i used Line Camera

and there is another one with great beauty make-up app is called Perfect365 , you should try ! its on Android phone too i think  ;D
Thanks I'll have a look. I'm always looking for comical & fun apps that help brighten my day.

Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on May 01, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: DianaVV on April 30, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
underwire is not recommend for those who just had BAS recently ...

Sorry what's BAS? Breast augmentation surgery..?? Just to clarify :P
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Ltl89 on May 01, 2014, 03:51:57 PM
I never heard it could be harmful.  As long as you are wearing something that is comfortable and not binding it, then you shouldn't have any problems.  For the record, I recommend those who are trying to hide their development to avoid wearing these sorts of bras.  I have some, but they make things much more noticeable which may be problematic if you are still in andro mode like me. 
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: @Diana on May 01, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Allyda on May 01, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
Thanks I'll have a look. I'm always looking for comical & fun apps that help brighten my day.

Ally :icon_flower:


it sure will ! hugs <3
Quote from: eggy_nog on May 01, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
Sorry what's BAS? Breast augmentation surgery..?? Just to clarify :P

haha yes :P
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Kova V on May 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
This is where someone makes this joke about wearing an underwire when they were 9 years old and no one was home...   ;D
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Chloevixen on May 01, 2014, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: Kova V on May 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
This is where someone makes this joke about wearing an underwire when they were 9 years old and no one was home...   ;D



You almost made me spill my wine I was laughing so hard!!  I must of been a late bloomer and didnt start until I was 12.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on May 02, 2014, 04:22:32 AM
Sorry I'm being slow  :-\ whaat?
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: allisonsteph on May 02, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
Quote from: ErinWDK on April 30, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
I forget which bra site I looked at, but it claimed 80% of the bras sold are underwire.  I used to avoid them like the plague, but now that I have a wee bit in the way of  breasts (due to Androgel of all things...) there is one underwire style I really like.  So some like them, others not.  My late wife would not have any underwire bras.

To each their own!


Erin

I'd actually be surprised if the percentage were that low. I'm not sure where others are shopping or what size they wear, but if I want a bra without an underwire I have to put considerable effort into finding one. In fact I've never owned a bra without.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Shantel on May 02, 2014, 11:27:23 AM
I wear an underwire bra when I want my home grown boobs to look impressive and fuller, underwires do that and center them more mid-way under each collarbone and are really supportive if the girls are beginning to go south. I have a broad male chest with boobs typically centered closer to each arm than they usually are on cis women, soft bras are more comfortable but offer less pizzaz.

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Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: generous4 on May 05, 2014, 08:27:07 AM
Used to occasionally wear an underwire when smaller, for variety - didn't really need it. 

But now I am more concerned with protecting my ducts from any constriction, so I am soft cup all the way.  I think soft cup is healthier, and if you are not worried too much about projection, it makes a lot of sense. 
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: mm on May 05, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
generous4, there are many underwire bras available in nursing bras, there must be many nursing mothers using them.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Shantel on May 05, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
Most of the time as of late I just wear a woman's cotton/spandex tank top under my T shirts, but there are days when I feel as if they are being drawn down by gravity so I put on the underwire for the rest of the day. Someone told me that if you can put a pencil under them and if the breast holds it then you're getting the sags. I don't want to have Cooper's Droopers like my old mother-in-law, having not worn a bra most of the time they went south on her, she reminds me of a school bus with it's windshield wipers running as she walks and is at the point where a bra would be useless and a belt would be more practical. I don't want that to happen to me.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: generous4 on May 06, 2014, 03:41:17 AM
Quote from: mm on May 05, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
generous4, there are many underwire bras available in nursing bras, there must be many nursing mothers using them.

I know.  I actually have one. :o

But I have a lot of side tissue, and my nurse-practitioner says a lot of the milk glands are actually there.  So I just choose to manage my breasts without the underwire.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: mm on May 06, 2014, 08:27:18 AM
generous4, since underwire bras are designed with the underwires in the position to fit a women of a given frame and breast development and there are women who are not built that way.  Therefore some like a particular style underwire bra and other say it doesn't fit them at all and hurt to wear that style.  A well fitting underwire bra offers a lot of benefits if it fit you correctly, gives a nice shape, supports you well, gives good projection, feels good all day long.  Therefore if someone would like to try underwire bras they should some time in a good bra shop and try on underwire bras until they find a style that feeling and looks good for them. When you are just developing underwire bras give your beasts more shape and projection; I wore them in high school.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: generous4 on May 06, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
You're quite the evangelist for underwires.  ;D

No worries.  My partner's mom owns a lingerie store, so she is a bra fanatic.  She and her mom have me fitted really well, for which I am very thankful.  (More projection  :o is not necessary.)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Shantel on May 06, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: generous4 on May 06, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
You're quite the evangelist for underwires.  ;D

No worries.  My partner's mom owns a lingerie store, so she is a bra fanatic.  She and her mom have me fitted really well, for which I am very thankful.  (More projection  :o is not necessary.)

(More projection  :o is not necessary.)   :D LAMO Definitely not if you are lactating!  :icon_yikes:
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: mm on May 06, 2014, 02:02:02 PM
I gave you my knowledge of underwire bras. Many women are down on all underwires and when the problem is really finding the right style for them.  You seem to be taken care greatly by your partner's mom, which is great. 
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Michelle G on May 12, 2014, 01:42:23 AM
Speaking of bras,
my lovely spouse was placing a Victorias Secret order for herself and she got this cute lil bralette for me :) she said I need some bright colors in my lingerie drawer...she is sweet and I'm so lucky!

It fits great and is surprisingly comfy :)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Fodds%2520n%2520ends%2FCDF5AB0B-979B-49CC-85F4-E7520B124D37_zpsv3v2mjh5.jpg&hash=538d5329e5fbeb91073e882e84b0cb654d8da604)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: JessikaBlackMage on May 12, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
I never knew the thing about not wearing underwire bra when your breasts are still growing. Altho when I was first starting on HRT , I wore a bra that had wifi in it (Wireless Bra) , I usually only wear a bra when I leave the house and the last few times I have left the house I have not wore a bra as I really only need a bra to push them up and make them look bigger , rather than for support.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: judithlynn on May 12, 2014, 12:49:37 PM
These days I have a mix of bras. For every day use I have some nice Full support (with wide chest band) comfort (unwired brass) from Marks & Spencer - 44A Cup. These are my every day bras. For when I am in "boy mode" sometimes caused by work - I wear a Sports Bra (got them in different colours, then for more formal girl wear - say my business jacket and skirt, I have a Cross your heart Bra 44B Cup from Playtex. But for going out, I have a couple of really nice lace Underwire Cup bras 44B with matching panties in Black, glorious pink and mauve . These Underwire bras really lift and shape my Border line B Cup breasts and give then great cleavage and definition. They make me feel a million dollars especially when I am wearing a dress with bare shoulders and low cut  top with an above the knee skirt with high heels. Yes!
Judith
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: LittleEmily24 on May 12, 2014, 02:44:04 PM
This is odd. i've been wearing underwire bras since i started dressing full time... and i dont even feel it. 0_o am I missing something?

I really hope its not impeding my breast development.. how can something that feels like its not there cause any constriction? >.<
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: judithlynn on May 12, 2014, 05:04:40 PM
Hi Jessica;
I don't know how old you are, but I would strongly recommend that you think about wearing a bra all day every day certainly as soon as you pass the pencil test. As your bust is developing you need to provide overall support for them to ensure that they develop properly and are supported properly at all times. Preferably try to get a proper bra fitting,. In Australia, I have a delightful lady in Victoria (A Corsetiere) and in the United Kingdom, Marks & Spence do a Bra fitting service. Sometimes you might think you are small B Cup, but perhaps what you need is a smaller Band size but bigger Cup size or vice versa. Having beautiful breasts  with firm extended nipples and large areolae are a really important thing for being a women and it is doubly important that as one feminize that we look after our growing breast tissue. This means proper support, otherwise like many women we will be left with sagging droopy breast tissue.
Judith

Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: eggy_nog on May 12, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: judithlynn on May 12, 2014, 05:04:40 PM
Hi Jessica;
I don't know how old you are, but I would strongly recommend that you think about wearing a bra all day every day certainly as soon as you pass the pencil test.

What is this pencil test..? :)
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Michelle G on May 12, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: eggy_nog on May 12, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
What is this pencil test..? :)

When you can place a pencil under a breast and it will stay put as the breast folds over it.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Felix on May 12, 2014, 08:53:01 PM
Sorry if I don't belong answering this, but I wore bras for fifteen years and now I have a teenaged daughter going through this.

I have never heard any medical professional say anything about underwire, and I think most relevant information about it is going to come from individual consumers and maybe from the fashion industry. I always associated underwire with middle-aged and older women, and women with lots of kids. I used bras with it sometimes, as it can help keep a lovely shape and prevent uniboob, but bras with underwire fall apart more quickly, and when they poke through it can be painful.

If you can find a bra with plastic "underwire" it might be a nice compromise. I do know cisgirls who swear up and down that their boob symmetry and tightness comes from sleeping in a tight bra, but I have no way of checking on that, obviously.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: JessikaBlackMage on May 12, 2014, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: judithlynn on May 12, 2014, 05:04:40 PM
Hi Jessica;
I don't know how old you are, but I would strongly recommend that you think about wearing a bra all day every day certainly as soon as you pass the pencil test. As your bust is developing you need to provide overall support for them to ensure that they develop properly and are supported properly at all times. Preferably try to get a proper bra fitting,. In Australia, I have a delightful lady in Victoria (A Corsetiere) and in the United Kingdom, Marks & Spence do a Bra fitting service. Sometimes you might think you are small B Cup, but perhaps what you need is a smaller Band size but bigger Cup size or vice versa. Having beautiful breasts  with firm extended nipples and large areolae are a really important thing for being a women and it is doubly important that as one feminize that we look after our growing breast tissue. This means proper support, otherwise like many women we will be left with sagging droopy breast tissue.
Judith

I don't know if you are talking to me, as I spell my username with a k in it. I bought some new Bras on ebay. my breasts aren't all that huge.
Title: Re: When is it ok to start wearing *underwired* bras??
Post by: Darlig Ulv on May 13, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: allisonsteph on May 02, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
I'm not sure where others are shopping or what size they wear, but if I want a bra without an underwire I have to put considerable effort into finding one.

Walmart has a new section of wireless bras and they are comfy, I found one and it's my favorite so far.