We know what anti-androgens mean for muscle atrophy. I'm just curious if others here who have been on HRT for at least 3 months are experiencing any significant chest strength reductions.
So have you turned into a girlie floor humper? Or can you still manage a good 10 or more?
20? I dare you to try. :D
Don't know. Don't care.
I still have a long way to go in the atrophy department. My biceps started at 18.5" and they're only down to 17". I'm not exercising upper body until I'm into the female range. I'll bet I can still bench press over 200. *sigh*
Yeah same here. I don't want to workout my upper body. But one test is enough.
I don't have a pullup bar. But I also wonder how many those I can manage now.
I just tried this
I managed to do 4 and my arms hurt...
Why the hell do I have muscles?
I hope you mean 4 pullups! :D
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 08:08:37 PM
I hope you mean 4 pullups! :D
I can barely do 1 of those...
and I ask again , why the hell do i have muscles?
sincerely T , I hate you so so sooooo much
I really hope that with time my arms will become more feminine
my arms really don't function any more unless in an emergency.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
We know what anti-androgens mean for muscle atrophy. I'm just curious if others here who have been on HRT for at least 3 months are experiencing any significant chest strength reductions.
So have you turned into a girlie floor humper? Or can you still manage a good 10 or more?
20? I dare you to try. :D
So what does it mean if you're a "girlie floor humper" before HRT? ???
I can do 3 sets of 10 with 2 minute breaks in between before collapsing lol... and thats regular push-ups, girl push-ups i can do maybe 3 sets of 20 before equally collapsing x_x
As for pull-ups....
... LOL... yeah. ok. I can do maybe ONE half assed pull-up. The real strength is in da legs xD I can do maybe 80 squats in one sitting before having to take a break. 30 day squat challenge <3.. I try to stay away from upper body muscle building workouts >_< either way, most of the strength comes from my abs.. I use to be able to pull 90#, now I can BARELY pull 30 xD
Quote from: SarahM777 on June 10, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
So what does it mean if you're a "girlie floor humper" before HRT? ???
It means you where blessed! :D
Em, that's pretty good sis!
After the first 3 pushups it's like HOLY SH** I'm weak now
I could maybe eek out 8 full boy pushups but I'd be super done
I used to be able to do as many as I wanted lol..
About 13. Somewhat disappointing :( At some point I'm going to have to put effort into getting some strength back. Not for a while though.
Quote from: stephaniec on June 10, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
my arms really don't function any more unless in an emergency.
this is essentially my experience as well, I've lost so much muscle I'm pitiful
T is seriously an IRL strength cheat code
Just think any of these cross-fit gals can now woop our arses. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7fI7Y3CQ8Y
Quote from: Hideyoshi on June 10, 2014, 08:33:24 PM
After the first 3 pushups it's like HOLY SH** I'm weak now
Just tried this and got the same result..... holy cow! I used to be able to carry two 50lbs bags of fertilizer without breaking a sweat. Now I can barely pick up a 35lb jug of cat litter.
LOL, I don't even think about it!
"Push ups"?? Are we talking about bras here? ;)
I max out around 3-4 push-ups....I'd be too embarrassed to attempt pull ups haha.
I can do about 10.
The thing though, is before I could do like 3, maybe, on a good day. I was such an out of shape fat ass loser that I couldn't climb a set of stairs without wheezing. The first time I worked out, after 15 minutes I spent almost an hour crawling on the floor trying not to puke. That was around last Sept/Oct. Maybe a month after I started hrt. But I worked out almost every single day since then. (even Thanksgiving which I'm pretty proud of.)
Now I'm getting fit, and sexy, and strong, and I like it. I like it a lot. But I always admired tougher chicks and wanted to be like them anyways. I know I can't lift as much as before, like tables and OMG I had to move the bed last week and it was so much heavier than I ever remember. But my overall health and fitness is so much better now that I'm invested in my body and yay, I can do push ups:)
Oh come one now!!
I know I have lost much muscle mass and even more strength but I know if I wanted to I could manage at least 20 pushups....but I know from trying at the gym I can't do a pull up.....but that is a completely different thing. Even women going through basic training can't do the minimum 3 push ups required.
I use to do 75 push ups and 100 sit-ups almost every night about 9 years ago...pre hrt. I went from 165 down to 140. I also cut out some foods and soda. Just before hrt I was still fairly strong but my weight went down to 120 but I still could do many push ups and I was doing quite a bit of physical work. After 5 years of hrt I still feel stronger than most women, but know I have lost much strength...but more endurance than strength!!
I'm now at 127# and I'm sure I can do 20 pushups!!....but the yoga moves I have tried are a real bear at times!!
2 years on hrt and I can barely do 1
None, but I couldn't do any before either. :) I don't seem to have lost much actual strength, but again, my wife could outdo me weightlifting pre-HRT too... what I *have* lost is the bulky muscles. I have sort of "lightly toned" muscles instead of the big flashy kind.
Quote from: Eva Marie on June 10, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Just tried this and got the same result..... holy cow! I used to be able to carry two 50lbs bags of fertilizer without breaking a sweat. Now I can barely pick up a 35 jug of cat litter.
Okay, I broke down and tried, 1, 2, urgh, argh, almost, errrahhhh, ah hell, 2 and half push ups for me, and I struggled on the first one. Long ago I used to be able to do 100 at a time. But you know what, I don't care, I like my arms so much more now, and how I feel is a far better trade. Okay, so I kind of have the wrong kind of job for someone that doesn't like to have muscles, and quite often have to use them for something heavy. I can do 35lbs okay, but 50lbs is already well past my physical strength limit. now get this my boss, she's very womanly, she lifts 50 pounds like its nothing. So when she's working the truck unload with me, I let her have at it. ;D
Pre-hormones, this is what I looked like:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iJgTP1hA2bE/U6t2QLz6TbI/AAAAAAAARCY/JSfM2JLliUo/s512/Pre-transition%2520-%2520them%2520pumped%2520arms%2520gotta%2520go.png)
Them were some veiny arms. And ewe I can't believe I posted the absolutely worst picture of me (I still cringe every time I look at it), that was one tough time in my life there.
Its that picture of me that when I look at it and look at me now, this is where I can really see how much I have changed. I'll take beauty over brawn any day. If I really need muscle and totally impossibly can't do it, I'll just have someone else stronger or more willing to do it for me. ;)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mpb-XnqMKlA/U6tHHeQEB5I/AAAAAAAARmA/WXrGOUT63aY/s640/5-31-2014%2520me%2520with%2520glasses.JPG)
Megan I would absolute agree your arms look much better!!
I still use my muscles much more than I would like too. I also do work out but I don't focus on any upper strength training. I know the one time I was alone in the gym I tried to bench press, I could only manage 65...I tried to start with 80 but had to keep moving down. I've seen many thin girls at the gym that can handle more weight than I.....even on squats and the leg press, one area I though I was fairly strong at.
I just wish my arms could look as nice as yours, I'm sure their not much bigger but they just look so crappy!!
Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 10, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WPP-DlSOOCc/U5fJk_OmpSI/AAAAAAAAPGA/zP1uRHg-vcE/s512/Pre-transition%2520-%2520them%2520pumped%2520arms%2520gotta%2520go.png)
Where's the beard? Are you kidding me? You look post-HRT even here! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2F2mg8qs8.jpg&hash=aa2ea192b57b87daa38a109c2120f0acd95ae312)
You're a truck load of beautiful. Unload that!
I was pulling out my facial hair then (this also included plucking my eyebrows as well, and long before that I had already been shaving my legs and by them was pulling the hair out there too). I had already begun taking steps even before HRT. I think that pic there was either 2000 or 2001, perhaps, being as I looked to be kinda dressing feminine I may've just started full time but still a few months before getting hormones.
Oh my god, <3 cute! You did look so girly even before! Am so jealous!
I seriously got to put together this huge portrait album I'm trying to work on. Was going to post another pic, but lets keep to the topic, don't want to derail it with unrelated stuff. I think I look horrible in that pic, only showing it for the arms since they're so pumped and ugly (doing too many push-ups in the early part of my life), I didn't expect compliments that I looked good, like no way. :-\
But thank you. :)
I dont do any pushups anymore. I guess I could do 10, maybe 20, but not really feel that I want to. Just for the record, in the uni I could do 50 in one minute. No more pull-ups I am afraid too (my record was 23 or 24, dont remember).
I can do about 300 squats though... Can You? :D (ok, this is going towards "My bewbs are bigger than Yours" so I better stop right here).
Update: OK, this got me intrigued. I can do 20, though after 15 it gets quite hard. Maybe I could do 22-25, maybe... My arms and pecs will hurt tomorrow, but... does this mean that I can whoop Your butt now? :)
I can do 3 now I was able to do 30 before hormones.
I just did 15 push ups. Uh pre-HRT I could prolly do the same. I don't feel any weaker. My biceps are only 9.5 inches though and my wrists are 5". I could never do a pull up. When I was a kid in gym class they let me do push ups on my knees, like the girls. Surprisingly, no one ver gave me crap. But, I am 5'5 115-20 lbs so people just expect I'm weak. But, I don't want to be weak. Forget that. Of course, you won't catch me at a gym working out either. I like my fatty, thin-ish arms.
hahah, great topic :D
tried and managed exactly 3 -
the fourth was much to hard XD
i think all my muscular strength is gone over the past year ...
I managed 4, then I didn't like the pain and gave up.
I could do about 30 when I was in my final denial going-to-the-gym-once-a-week phase.
Hrt And dieting have taken 3" off my arms.
Circumference, not length ;)
Got 8 before my shoulder gave out. I never could do many prior to hrt, around like 15. My shoulder gives out due to old injuries. My workouts these days are all lower body workouts and cardio. I doubt I could do one pull-u. If I remember right my pull-up record was 1
*lol*
I used to bench about 70kgs for 10 reps.
Now I can barely manage 10 push ups.
It's not showing though - my arms haven't thinned out much at all.
Pull-ups were always fail for me.
I can do exactly as many as before: 0.5
(hoping no one already made that joke)
pre-hrt around 40 and could do multiple sets in a day. 4 months later... 15 (ok I cheated on the last 2 and none of them where chest to the floor either), and I AM NOT going to do anymore, that winded me way more than I expected...
I had to try this <gasp, gasp> :-\
I used to carry people down ladders for a living and now, wobbly arms at 10, collapse at 18. I measured and taped before HRT and before Biceps were 18" (now 14"), wrist's were 10" (now 71/2"). ::) I believe I have arrived at the dark side now! Where's the cookies at? ;D
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 11, 2014, 09:36:43 AM
I had to try this <gasp, gasp> :-\
I used to carry people down ladders for a living and now, wobbly arms at 10, collapse at 18. I measured and taped before HRT and before Biceps were 18" (now 14"), wrist's were 10" (now 71/2"). ::) I believe I have arrived at the dark side now! Where's the cookies at? ;D
I made cinnamon almond cookies today...
Did zero pushups. Muscle sticks like glue to me. More cardio. *le sigh*
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 11, 2014, 09:36:43 AM
I had to try this <gasp, gasp> :-\
I used to carry people down ladders for a living and now, wobbly arms at 10, collapse at 18. I measured and taped before HRT and before Biceps were 18" (now 14"), wrist's were 10" (now 71/2"). ::) I believe I have arrived at the dark side now! Where's the cookies at? ;D
The dark side has no cookies... its just something we say to get people to join.... The cookies are a lie
Not to sidetrack, but OMG I added 30-sec planks to my (limited) exercise routine, and I thought I was going to die! I nursed myself back to life with some chips ahoy though :)
I can't do any more than 10 and I'm not on HRT AHAHAHA #LAZY
Quote from: ashrock on June 11, 2014, 09:51:35 AM
The cookies are a lie
Oh the horror! :icon_yikes: :eusa_wall:
You know thinking about all this newfound weakness, this can't be good for our own personal safety.
I guess that's a risk I'm willing to compromise.
Oh and my bugout bag I packed a year ago is way too heavy now. Will have to take out half the items. (bye-bye neti pot, bluerays, makeup kits, lotions, *sigh*) ;D
I don't do pushups in my normal routine but I plank for 60 seconds or much more if I can handle it. Planking is very good for the core and helps with posture.....not to mention the buttocks :)
I had to just try to see if I could though....I went down on the floor and easily did 12, I could of went on to at least 25 I feel. I don't weigh a lot so that does help. With pushups one is using more than just upper strength though. Now a pull up is a different story....not many women or even men can do even one.
My children laugh at me when I try to show I have more muscle then them, but I feel I still do and it works when I want it too or really need it, but in everyday life it is more difficult to do the things I once did by myself. I buy 50# bags of dog food....I can still mange to get it in the trunk, but it is more of a struggle.....usually though there is always some man in the lot to offer me help....I definitely don't turn him down! :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 11, 2014, 10:00:11 AM
Oh the horror! :icon_yikes: :eusa_wall:
I'm hoarding the cookies. *evil laugh*
I'm 53, 5'10"/ 146 pounds and have been on a transition level estrogen HRT regimen since January 2010. I gave up pushups 15 years ago because they were hurting my wrists so I'm a little out of practice. That said, I just came in from push mowing the yard, saw the thread and dropped down on the floor to give you twenty (LOL, not claps).
I have taken to yoga for my back since I retired, can press into wheel, jump to crow, do arm balances, and 60 second hand stands. I have been scrawny for my entire life. People have always marveled at my strength and HRT has not effected it. My physical ability comes from the mind, not the muscle, years of self discipline and meditation.
Now, since claps where mentioned, I decided to try those one two - I can still do 3 pushups with claps (used to be around 10-15).
And - oh crap - I can actually do 4 pull-ups too... one 100% clean one and the rest with a bit of body cheating. I must have become stronger (or lighter) or I am doing something wrong :).
i cant barely for 5 push ups without switching to the girl push up version xD my gym teacher always got on me for that. pull ups i cant even do one xD
A bakers dozen (13 sorry haven't had breakfast yet all this talk about cookies must be getting to me) closed fists ankles crossed over each other. Not as much as I use to but I am out of practice
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 11, 2014, 09:36:43 AM
I had to try this <gasp, gasp> :-\
I used to carry people down ladders for a living and now, wobbly arms at 10, collapse at 18. I measured and taped before HRT and before Biceps were 18" (now 14"), wrist's were 10" (now 71/2"). ::) I believe I have arrived at the dark side now! Where's the cookies at? ;D
Found them :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parchment.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fchewy-chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg&hash=a1d6132dbe16304a025cfade18dffd312df9f00d)
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 10, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
It means you where blessed! :D
Em, that's pretty good sis!
I never could do many to begin with :P
(Of course that is to be expected when one is 5' 10" and 125 lbs fully clothed and dripping wet) :laugh:
Height: 5'7.5"
Weight: 137lb
Before (not on knees): 50-75 in a row [with me collapsed on floor afterwards]
Last Night (on knees) : 20 and running out of pace around there. Probably could do 30.
Tonight (not on knees) 15 exhausted me with collapsing to the floor. Out of breath for a few minutes after. <-- Edit
However, I can barely lift 40lb cat litter bucket with both hands. Tried this the other day when out shopping with a friend and she made fun of me :P
So I'm pretty much screwed if I'm pinned. I do have diamond hard nails though ^_^
I exercise a bunch, I can manage 8, but I am not terribly sure I could manage much more before. When I used to unload trucks for a living I know I could do a bunch but that was years ago, and all I do is drive them now. Still I do have the physical demands of cranking the landing gear up and down on several trailers a day and opening and closing my hood everyday. The hood weighs alot, it isn't like a car hood and the landing gear push up or down 50,000+ lbs but, there is a great deal of mechanical advantage there.
I exercise a bunch so that I can still do the things that are demanded of my physically I see nothing wrong with that especially seeing as other women do indeed do the work I do, and none of them seem to want to be too weak to do their jobs either lol. I only care about strength insomuch as I can be independent, I have lost a bit, but probably not as much as most because I fear loss of independence far more than I fear people thinking me too muscular (which would never happen I have like very little visible muscle).
So, are we talking about one-handed, or two-handed?
I'm amazed at how HRT zapped my ability to do pushups in such a short amount of time. Pushups were never really part of my exercise routine, but I could have easily done a 80-100 with very little difficulty.
Now, decided to test due to this thread. I can do about 25 with a lot of strain involved. This sounds in line with the rest of you girls. I was warned about this, but honestly, I don't miss the extra strength. I just get someone else to do the heavy lifting. :)
^ That's what battin' of the eyes and sweet talk is for...but I've never tried it. :-\
Quote from: Suziack on June 11, 2014, 11:07:36 PM
So, are we talking about one-handed, or two-handed?
Hands-free, to be precise.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 11, 2014, 10:26:39 AM
Oh and my bugout bag I packed a year ago is way too heavy now. Will have to take out half the items. (bye-bye neti pot, bluerays, makeup kits, lotions, *sigh*) ;D
Wait a second. Blurays? lol.
Quote from: ErinS on June 11, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
Yeah, I've always a pretty intense presence before and street people never messed with me, but last week I was in SF and was like,"where the F did all these homeless and EDPs(Emotionally Disturbed Persons) come from?"
Even with just 2 months HRT and still presenting male, my presence is just so much...softer, that my bubble of safe space has shrank considerably.
Regarding packs, I came out to my ultra conservative best friend this weekend, and he asked me,"after this administration finishes destroying the country and we're in running gunfights with biker gangs across the wastelands of the former United States, will you need to carry a lighter pack?" LMAO
First thing, SF has decayed into a barely functioning cesspool over the last decade or so. It used to be much more friendly and vibrant all around but now it is a very disturbing place. Even the nicest parts have been trashed. There are places you can escape if you can afford it, but even then you have to come down to the street and no place is safe anymore. I absolutely hate going into the city. The last time I was there was going to a club with a girlfriend and we had some crazy person smash a glass booze bottle at us among the other insane commentary, pleas and harassment we were subjected to.
Second thing, I think it's awesome your friend doesn't even blink about being trans and is totally thinking about how you're going to survive in the future. That's so sweet.
So it seems I was misinformed. I swore when I was researching before there were numbers to support roughly a 25% reduction in strength. However, based on the results of these pushup self tests its more like >75% loss depending on how long you've been on HRT, with 75% being pretty close to the start of it. I'm also assuming this is also based on exercise as my 80% reduction is probably due to not working my upper body for 6mo.
Quote from: Jennifer.Alexandria on June 11, 2014, 11:56:45 PM
So it seems I was misinformed. I swore when I was researching before there were numbers to support roughly a 25% reduction in strength. However, based on the results of these pushup self tests its more like >75% loss depending on how long you've been on HRT, with 75% being pretty close to the start of it. I'm also assuming this is also based on exercise as my 80% reduction is probably due to not working my upper body for 6mo.
Yes, 25% reduction is way to understated. I have a very close male friend and we are sometimes doing "mock" armwrestling. I came out to him in August and we tried that for the first time a little bit afterwards - he could not beat me as I was just putting up all the resistance I could to hold on. Three months ago, he was struggling but he managed to beat me with both hands. Two weeks ago, it was me who was struggling to delay the inevitable - I lasted for about 3-4 secs and then went down. Next time, probably he will bend my hand like a twig :P.
Also, I never really understood how strong men are in comparison to women. There is also an extreme psychological advantage on their side, because now when I have shrunk, even quite average guy who works out from time to time, looks so much broader and bigger, and it has some sort of intimidating effect too... :(. I never expected that HRT would reduce my strength so drastically and since safety was mentioned, I always assumed that if needed, I would simply push the bad guy away and if he insists and gets close, knock him out with an elbow. We tried that thing with my friend (not the elbow one, of course), so... I was pushing, he just would not move... then he grabbed my hands and I only escaped with knowledge that You need to twist against thumbs not the rest of fingers (easier to break away from one-finger hold than four-finger hold), then we decided to omit self-defence tricks, he managed to get into distance, grabbed my hands again, twisted them - again his force against my without soft escaping techniques - and pinned me against wall. I could not get any body leverage and this whole situation felt pretty helpless :(. I could try to reach out and kick him in the balls, but we agreed not to do that :P. So much about personal safety :(.
And the most ironic part is that 6-7 years ago this guy was taking martial arts lessons from me :D.
Yes Emily I can completely understand the intimidation factor that comes with being a women. Much comes from the size difference and I think this then leads to the psychological difference. If women have too, we will defend ourselves....but in a situation of a man being a bully or a man just being a man :) many will usually just say...whatever.
I never thought of myself as a petite women at the start of transition and I even have a hard time seeing myself that way now, but I am told by most people, men and women that I am petite. I know when it comes to physical interaction such as a kind nudge or a coworker pushing me around jokingly....it feels as if they are giants.
Even pre transition I always feared other men, physically and mentally.....I actually didn't enjoy most of the interaction I had with the few friends I had. Now, I really don't like most men and many even disgust me, this is on a friendly type basis....not a relation type....I'm still very attracted to men that way.
I haven't stop crossfitting so I can still do about 80 in 1 time :)
I regret trying! It's been 2 days and I'm still feeling sore!
I guess I better start getting back into shape
Quote from: luna nyan on June 13, 2014, 06:12:17 AM
I regret trying! It's been 2 days and I'm still feeling sore!
I guess I better start getting back into shape
LOL :). I knew they would hurt when I tried... Well, they still hurt :(.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 13, 2014, 06:51:56 AM
LOL :). I knew they would hurt when I tried... Well, they still hurt :(.
But it's so sad it's funny!
I used to get to 30 minimum even when I was out of shape!
I guess I can make myself feel even worse and do a count of how few half push-ups I can manage. I never used to see the point of those. XD
Okay, so I'd been wanting to make a short video of my attempt at push-ups for a while since posting in this topic, but I had forgotten about it for a time, it just suddenly came back to me a little while ago so figured, why not, lets see how this turns out...
http://youtu.be/IeQwVYXvuoI
There you have it, I can't even do two lousy push-ups. And I'm ecstatic about it. :)
20 minutes later, arms still hurt a little, I strained myself just going down on the first one.
I'm on antiandrogens since Mar 12th. I'm quite sure I can do whole 0 push ups. Which went down from... ehm... 0 :-D .
But then again I had, have and will have pretty much all physical exercises except walking, running and swimming (which is out of question thanks to obvious reasons :-) ) forbidden so that my retinas stay nicely in place.
Still I did notice a drop of physical strength. I can feel it when I carry a full backpack. I hate the sound of the suitcases on wheels but I guess I eventually won't have a choice :-) .
Still I walk 5 km per day on average. And I can still handle 10-12 km no problem. Just last Wednesday I walked over 10 km as I had quite some business to sort out after work.
Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 22, 2014, 10:22:45 PM
Okay, so I'd been wanting to make a short video of my attempt at push-ups for a while since posting in this topic, but I had forgotten about it for a time, it just suddenly came back to me a little while ago so figured, why not, lets see how this turns out...
http://youtu.be/SO3xquDeNlw
There you have it, I can't even do two lousy push-ups. And I'm ecstatic about it. :)
20 minutes later, arms still hurt a little, I strained myself just going down on the first one.
Cute video :). But... I am tempted to make mine now :D.
Um...for curiousity purposes i did some pushups this morning.
87 on my first set, 62 on my second and 39 on my 3rd.
Those numbers are WAY down from before, thank gawd. Im not even gonnasay. What i use to bench :(
^ :o Ooh, strong girl! ;D
I've did 2 legitimately perfect form pushups then gave up. :icon_blink: Like I've said before, I was never strong to begin with. When I was about 30lbs + heavier, it was mostly fat not muscle I had, and now I realize that more than ever. I was never meant to be strong, although I had a lot more power pre HRT and could move things around easier.
Whats' a push-up? oh, a bra? ;)
I have to admit, my last pushup was probably in high school, just a little longer than last week.. I'm not flabby, and I really should work out more (spelled a-n-y), I'm older, and the exercise I get is from walking. There is always the usual Jumping to conclusions, Flipping out, Running my mouth.. I think you get the idea ;)
Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 23, 2014, 07:47:09 AM
^ :o Ooh, strong girl! ;D
Hehe yeah! :D
Strong but not very buff anymore so am pretty happy. Getting weaker and weaker all the time. I dont mind. :)
Still if there is something heavy to lift I pretend I'm too weak so I get guys to do it LOL! :D