It has been quite a long way and a lot of work before being able to decide who's going to carry out the first session of FFS. After having studied quite a lot of before and afters from well-renowned surgeons, I shortlisted the following surgeons:
1. Di Maggio
2. Bart v d Veen
3. Facial team
4. Ousterhout/De Braly
5. Dr Spiegel
I received an assessment from Bart, but as he was unwilling to answer my questions afterwards I decided to eliminate Bart from my list.
I had a personal consultation with facial team, but as I wasn't satisfied with the outcome I eliminated them from shortlist as well.
I talked with Spiegel on Skype and received a proposal with a pricequote afterwards. All though Spiegel provided good answers to all my questions he is to conservative to my liking and far to expensive.
Further on I talked with De Braly on phone, but as I wasn't satisfied with the outcome of the conversation and he proved to be far too expensive I eliminated him from my shortlist also.
Finally I had an ongoing conversation with Dr Di Maggio for several months. He was able to answer all my questions in detail to my satisfaction, was very committed and showed great concern. During the process we were able to work out what suited me most as first step of FFS, which is forehead, brow lift, rhinoplasty, thyroid cartilage reduction and possibly blepharoplasty and midface-pexia.
Di Maggio has delivered consistent results and has an aggressive approach with very good results. He was also less expensive than the US-alternatives. Dr Di Maggio became my choice and I'm having surgery with him and his team the 25th of June this year.
I intend to keep you all updated on my experiences and if you have contributions please feel free to do so.
I'm also strongly considering DiMaggio. I have a shortlist of 2, and he's #1. Can I ask you some questions about what made you chose him?
Best of luck for your sugery!
Hello Charlotte,
Please feel free to ask me any questions you like
I have so many on the practical side!!
Where do you plan to stay? For how long? How much will it cost you?
I'm trying to see if that could fit in my budget, but I'm a bit afraid of how safe Argentina is.
Does he think you'll be ready to fly back a few weeks later, or does he wants you to stay for longer?
Also, midfaxe-pexia - what is that? A lift?
Congratulations! I just sent my pictures to Dr. DiMaggio for evaluation; how long it did it take for his office to contact you to setup a consultation?
Quote from: charlotte15 on April 26, 2015, 06:49:36 PM
I have so many on the practical side!!
Where do you plan to stay? For how long? How much will it cost you?
I'm trying to see if that could fit in my budget, but I'm a bit afraid of how safe Argentina is.
Does he think you'll be ready to fly back a few weeks later, or does he wants you to stay for longer?
Also, midfaxe-pexia - what is that? A lift?
Hello again Charlotte,
I'm arriving Buenos Aires 22th of June, surgery will be on 25th of June and I'll be heading back home again 11th of July. As I understand Dr Di Maggio recommends a stay of 14-16 days as a general rule. I added some days in order to make sure to be well rested before surgery and some extra days afterwards in case anything unforseen should occur.
I'm renting an appartment nearby where his clinic is situated in Belgrano-Buenos Aires. Renting the appartment for 3 weeks costs me 7.500 NOK or approximately 930 USD.
When it comes to safety I'm not that worried after doing some research-the worst part seems to be the traffic. A bit of common sense and general precautions as on every journey will do just fine.
Midfacepexia is a light facelift.
I hope this answers your questions.
Quote from: kittenpower on April 26, 2015, 09:37:47 PM
Congratulations! I just sent my pictures to Dr. DiMaggio for evaluation; how long it did it take for his office to contact you to setup a consultation?
Thank you, Kittenpower.
My experience is that it wont take very long. In my case they were very attentive and responded swiftly. My first message was answered after just a few days with a proporsal.
All the best,
Jannicke
Any idea what the language is like in BA? are most residents Bi-lingual (Spanish/English)? DiMaggio is on my list, but i always feared the language barrier being in a foreign country.
Quote from: michelle82 on April 28, 2015, 06:20:38 AM
Any idea what the language is like in BA? are most residents Bi-lingual (Spanish/English)? DiMaggio is on my list, but i always feared the language barrier being in a foreign country.
Hello Michelle,
I dont speak much Spanish myself, but there are people on his team that speaks both spanish and english and helps out when needed-bilangual assistant as part of the services aggreed upon in advance.
I've had surgery with Dr. Di Maggio this past December. If any of you ladies would like to talk some time please let me know!
Hi Charlotte,
It doesn't appear my profile has message access yet. Please add me on my facebook , or skype facebook:amber.soo.10 if you'd like to chat. I'm available the rest of tonight.
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Amy, 15 posts are needed to be able to respond to messages and send in most cases. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Mariah2014 on May 03, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Amy, 15 posts are needed to be able to respond to messages and send in most cases. Hugs
Mariah
Ah, thats good to know. Thanks Mariah.
Getting more excited as the day of surgery is getting nearer-just 46 days to surgery now.
A note about transport..I spent some time researching about what would be the best option when it comes to travel by air back and forth from my starting point-which is Oslo. Obviously, time of travel is important, but to be comfortable during the travel on the plain also is important. The cheapest option turned out to be KLM with one change in Amsterdam, but the use old 777''s which isn't comfortable at all so I didn't choose this option. Air France with a change in Paris is an option, but the airport Charles de Gaule is a nightmare and not really an option. My choise was Lufthansa with a change in Frankfurt as the use the Queen of the skies-747-8-which is quite new as well. It did cost a bit more, but it's a very comfortable option.
The surgery in Buenos Aires takes place at Sanatorio Finochietto http://www.sanatoriofinochietto.com/
Choose option 4 or 5. Dr. O or Spiegel. Good luck in your choice.
Juliana
Just curious what turned you off with Facial Team? Dr. Di Maggio and FT my top pics and still deciding.
Congratulations! I'm so happy that you did your own evaluations and made a decision based on your personal experience with each surgeon and what fulfilled your criteria. Dr DiMaggio does excellent work. Wishing you the best with surgery and hope you are happy with your results.
I did my frontoplasty with Maggio. I liked him for orbital bone. How have the great tests, perhaps future make another scalp forward or a hair transplant surgeon with each other. I had little orbital bone. How do I post pictures? I live in Brazil and never thought of doing in Facial Team, because I have seen many unfortunate girls who operated there, little or no change and many girls have to redo rhinoplasty with other doctors. Now, here in Brazil we have a doctor called Dr. Martins, have excited the girls, a specialization with Dr. Sherman Leis in Philadelphia and we are awaiting results position us.
Juliana
Quote from: Melissa_fox on May 28, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
Just curious what turned you off with Facial Team? Dr. Di Maggio and FT my top pics and still deciding.
Hi Melissa,
PM me and I will elaborate my conserns.
Jannicke
I just wanted a greater capillary advance, but know it's not the fault of the surgeon. It all depends on skin eslasticidade such as determining the size of the achieved progress. I liked him from the safety of, and to eliminate orbital bone is certainly one of the best in the world.
Quote from: Jannicke on April 25, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
It has been quite a long way and a lot of work before being able to decide who's going to carry out the first session of FFS. After having studied quite a lot of before and afters from well-renowned surgeons, I shortlisted the following surgeons:
1. Di Maggio
2. Bart v d Veen
3. Facial team
4. Ousterhout/De Braly
5. Dr Spiegel
I received an assessment from Bart, but as he was unwilling to answer my questions afterwards I decided to eliminate Bart from my list.
I had a personal consultation with facial team, but as I wasn't satisfied with the outcome I eliminated them from shortlist as well.
I talked with Spiegel on Skype and received a proposal with a pricequote afterwards. All though Spiegel provided good answers to all my questions he is to conservative to my liking and far to expensive.
Further on I talked with De Braly on phone, but as I wasn't satisfied with the outcome of the conversation and he proved to be far too expensive I eliminated him from my shortlist also.
Finally I had an ongoing conversation with Dr Di Maggio for several months. He was able to answer all my questions in detail to my satisfaction, was very committed and showed great concern. During the process we were able to work out what suited me most as first step of FFS, which is forehead, brow lift, rhinoplasty, thyroid cartilage reduction and possibly blepharoplasty and midface-pexia.
Di Maggio has delivered consistent results and has an aggressive approach with very good results. He was also less expensive than the US-alternatives. Dr Di Maggio became my choice and I'm having surgery with him and his team the 25th of June this year.
I intend to keep you all updated on my experiences and if you have contributions please feel free to do so.
Você vai operar na Clínica Adventista ou no Hospital Britânico?
I had FFS with MDM in January and was up and sight seeing in a week after surgery. General awareness helps for safety, but mostly just stick to the public tourist areas and you should be fine. Do not count on people there to know any English aside from his team.
Arrived in Buenos Aires Yesterday morning. I spent most of the day by doing supplementary tests and in the end had a long consultation with Dr Di Maggio and another of the surgeons in the team. During this conversation we went through all the procedures and aggreed upon in detail what was going to happen and why. Dr Di Maggio and his team seams very dedicated and professional to me and I'm very happy with my choise of surgeon. Tomorrow is the last day before surgery on Thursday and I intend to make necessary preparations in order to spend the next week in the appartment here in Belgrano. The neighbourhood is quiet and nice, but the traffic is horrendous as told in advance. Buenos Aires is a huge and very interesting city and I hope to spend some time exploring it after I've recovered some from the surgery.
Quote from: Jannicke on June 23, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Arrived in Buenos Aires Yesterday morning. I spent most of the day by doing supplementary tests and in the end had a long consultation with Dr Di Maggio and another of the surgeons in the team. During this conversation we went through all the procedures and aggreed upon in detail what was going to happen and why. Dr Di Maggio and his team seams very dedicated and professional to me and I'm very happy with my choise of surgeon. Tomorrow is the last day before surgery on Thursday and I intend to make necessary preparations in order to spend the next week in the appartment here in Belgrano. The neighbourhood is quiet and nice, but the traffic is horrendous as told in advance. Buenos Aires is a huge and very interesting city and I hope to spend some time exploring it after I've recovered some from the surgery.
Thanks for the update; best wishes for awesome results! :)
Thanks a lot Kittenpower :)
Closing in now with just over 12 hours left before surgery. Claudia is picking me up 06:30 am tomorrow, scheduled start for surgery is 08:30 am.
I've spent the day trying to relax and prepare for one week inside the appartment. As I'm travelling alone I've arranged for a person to help me out 4 times a day the first three days after I'm back in the appartment on Friday. I feel pretty calm, but has growing expectations of what is to come out of the surgery. In addition I'm uncertain about the level of pain involved afterwards. Nobody will ever now for sure before the pain is due to appear. The last major surgery for me was SRS for 11 years ago, but in a way that felt more invading and different than FFS. I've come a long way mentally since then and I guess that's what gives me some advantage now. In addition I strongly feel that what is going to happen tomorrow is a result of very thourough preparation that has brought me to the one person who was able to fullfill my needs. Accidently, he and his team happen to be in Buenos Aires and that's why I'm here also.
Right now I can't do anything ells than to get a good nights sleep and hope that the team who is going to perform surgery tomorrow will have had a good nights sleep and are fit for fight as well.
Tomorrow is going to be one of the most important days in my life.
Hi Jannicke
Sending you lots of hugs on your big day tomorrow.
Paula
Hi Paula,
Thanks a lot :D
All the best,
Jannicke
I wish you a successful surgery
very excited and happy for you! hope your recovery is quick! sending thoughts and best wishes!
hugs :)
Hi Janikke,
Hope you have a great surgery tomorrow. I am also interested in FFS and Dr. DiMaggio is high on my list. Hope you may give me some hints why you chose him over others. Well, and of course how the results are. :)
best wishes, Greta
Quote from: possessed on June 25, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
I wish you a successful surgery
Thanks a lot possessed :)
Quote from: michelle82 on June 25, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
very excited and happy for you! hope your recovery is quick! sending thoughts and best wishes!
Thanks a lot Michelle,
I was back in the appartment after spending the first night at the hospital. Experinced a bit of nausea, but that's gone now. Today I'm on my feet and that feels good. Got rid of the nosepakkers today and that was a relief. Still a bit swollen arøund the eyes after blepharoplasty on upper and lower eyelid. As I'm travelling alone I've engaged a nurse to come and check up on me four times a day and that has been a good solution.
Quote from: Greta on June 25, 2015, 04:44:53 PM
Hi Janikke,
Hope you have a great surgery tomorrow. I am also interested in FFS and Dr. DiMaggio is high on my list. Hope you may give me some hints why you chose him over others. Well, and of course how the results are. :)
best wishes, Greta
Hi Greta,
Thanks a lot.
Several things made me decide upon Dr Di Maggio and his team.
My approach was to address the the features of the face that would benefit me mostly.
In my case that was the upper part(forehead, eyes and noce) of the face and the addams-apple.
I may do some surgery later on but don't intend to do more than I feel I have to do. My approach is a minimalistic one.
Having concluded on that one I started my search to find a surgeon that had a history of good, consistent results over a lengthy period of time, had an aggresive approach when it comes to the forehead, but with a natural results.
I shortlisted Spiegel, de Braly/Ousterhout, Bart, facial team and Di Maggio.
I did skype with Spiegel, de Braly and Di Maggio and had personal consultation with facial team in Brussel.
Spiegel and de Braly/Ousterhout was way more expensive than the others and I didn't find any reasons for that as the could not produce markedbly better results than the others.
Speigel is also a bit to conservative to my liking and De Braly has not produced enough consistent results yet in my opinion-at least I couldn't find any. I erased both from my short list.
The consultation with facial team was very useful. It was interesting that they couldnt explaine to me what they wanted to do in detail and why. I didnt even get it in writing afterwards as promised. Mu confidence in them vaned considerably due to his. They went of the shortlist.
Bart didn't want to explain in detail what he wanted to do and why-just sent me a short qoute and backed off when I started asking questions. He went off the shortlist.
I contacted Dr Di Maggio in december and have been pestering him with a lot of questions over a period of 4 months. He responded them all brilliantly. Further on he has a aggresive and natural approach when it comes to foreheads and overall natural, good results. During our discussions we added a midface-pexi and in the last consultation here in Buenos Aires we supplemented with a filler over my upper lip in order to create a better expression overall. After arrival her i Buenos Aires I've been very well taken care of. My inpression of Dr Di Maggio and his team is very good. It's a bit early to report back on results just two days after the surgery. but I will do so later on.
My advise is to decide upon what you need to do and start searching for a surgeon that can produce results to your liking. Have and open mind and do a thourough search. Investing in some skype-calls with surgeons is a good idea.
Good luck with your search :)
All the best
Jannicke
Hi Jannicke,
thanks so much for your Info. I do have a Skype Consultation coming up with Dr. Simon from Facial Team next Tuesday. Yesterday I got an incredibly detailed mail from T-Change and Dr. Rossi about what he wants to do and why. Haven't gotten a better explanation from him than anybody else. Really amazing. Lol, it took me literally 20 minutes to read. Right here in the Forum there is a Blog which says very positive things about Dr. Rossi and his Team.
In any case Dr. DiMaggio is very high on my list because of your Info and also because a friend of mine from Germany went to have her FFS done with Dr. DiMaggio last year March. Just contacted her again last Wednesday and she said that she wasn't only initially happy with the results, but also now after more than one year. No complication what so ever.
Dying to see a few pics from you. Hope everything goes well and you do recover very quick.
Greta
Quote from: Greta on June 27, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
Hi Jannicke,
thanks so much for your Info. I do have a Skype Consultation coming up with Dr. Simon from Facial Team next Tuesday. Yesterday I got an incredibly detailed mail from T-Change and Dr. Rossi about what he wants to do and why. Haven't gotten a better explanation from him than anybody else. Really amazing. Lol, it took me literally 20 minutes to read. Right here in the Forum there is a Blog which says very positive things about Dr. Rossi and his Team.
In any case Dr. DiMaggio is very high on my list because of your Info and also because a friend of mine from Germany went to have her FFS done with Dr. DiMaggio last year March. Just contacted her again last Wednesday and she said that she wasn't only initially happy with the results, but also now after more than one year. No complication what so ever.
Dying to see a few pics from you. Hope everything goes well and you do recover very quick.
Greta
Hi Greta
Glad I could be of help.
To early to post some pictures yet but I will do so at a later time.
All the best,
Jannicke
Important day as it is three days after surgery and time to remove the bandage from the head. My first oppurtunity to actually see what has been done to my forehead.
Dr Navarro came by at 9 am, removed the bandage and said everything looked fine.
I know this is early, but they've really been aggressive and removed a lot of my previous big forehead-just like what we aggreed upon-close to 2 cm of the horisontal projection.
Still have my nosecast on for a few more days so I wont be able to get a full impression yet, but on a whole I think much have come down quite pretty so far. The adams-apple is also reduced a lot am I'm very happy for that as well. The voice is starting to return more and more, but I am still a bit hoarse.
Eyes are a bit swollen but developing fine-I'm really looking forward to have a view of them when they've settled. Not much pain actually..just a bit of strain at the forehead which is natural. Been up on my feet for two days now and got my appetite back again today-which is fine as I do need to stock up on healthy food to recover more quickly.
Actually, I'm really surprised to be on my feet just two days after surgery. I had SRS 11 years ago and allthough it's more invasive I was down in bed for a week.
Aftercare is brilliant and I could't be better taken care of with Dr Di Maggio and several of his teammembers more or less stand by on the phone all the time.
In a few days the nosecast will be off and I will get a better view of my new facial expression-really excited to experience that.
Anyway, it's important to be patient as the expression will change over a lengty period of time and I guess I will get a very good impression in 9-12 months time of whats to be the final expression.
Dear Greta,
I have also compared results and need fulfillment and have chosen Di Maggio due to several reasons. After considering him as well as Spiegel and Facial Team I felt confident enough by watching his results and so many satisfied patients, some of which were really complex as regards forehead and orbital remodelling. Apart from getting natural effects, I found he is the only one who changes your look expression.
Besides, and last but not least, the price is - though not the cheapest- convenient, especially regarding his excellence and the medical centre he has moved to (Sanatorio Finochietto), which is unique in Latin America, according to what I found out.
That's about all for the moment.
Good luck
Being able to finally shower and wash my hair Yesterday was divine. The nurse I hired to take care of me the first 3-4 days after surgery did her last check in the evening Yesterday and everyting was fine. I couldn't have made it without her these critical 3-4 days after surgery. So, if you're considering doing this make sure you get someone to help you out, at least initially, to be on the safe side. Either a companion you bring along, or better a professional nurse. Pamela, my nurse, also had extensive contact with Dr Di Maggio during the entire period and that was very reassuring. I think we managed to stop a growing inflammation aroud the eyes by this approach.
Big issues for me now is to get the swelling down around my eyes and I hope to get there within 7-10 days after surgery-that is by the end of this week. My voice is the last big issue as I've gotten very hoarse. Can't talk very long actually before it fails. At least I can talk so I guess it's just a matter of patience and not trying to force the voice through.
There has been a huge change in my face and even before the nose-casket is removed tomorrow, I'm very pleased with the results. I'll post some photos later this week(?) when the sweeling hopefully has come down.
That is a great news. The voice will come back and the eyes should look normal in a week or so. I can't wait to see your results. Hugs
Well done Jannicke .. :)
Hugs
Paula
Hi Jannicke,
happy you are recovering well and improve every days. Yes, the voice will come back soon. Lol, just don't talk too much. I'm personally impressed you of your foresight hiring a nurse. Did you plan this before hand or when you got to BA asking the staff of Dr. DiMaggio. This nurse could be employed by other girls coming for FFS. Hope to see pics of you soon.
Meanwhile I am going to have a Skype Consultation with Dr. DiMaggio on Wednesday morning 11am BA time. Wit Facial Team on Tuesday and with Dr. Rossi from T-Change on Thursday. Have to say that I compared what Dr. DiMaggio and Dr. Rossi want to perform on my face and it is practically the same procedure. Only difference, Dr. Rossi's offer is 5000 Dollars below that of Dr. DiMaggio. Well, I'll see on Wednesday if he doesn't have a special offer for me.
all the best, Greta
Hi LadyL,
thanks for your comment. As mentioned above I have three Skype Consultations coming up from tomorrow. Then I believe I am able to make my choice. Facial Team for example didn't want to make an evaluation without a Skype Consultation. Then I thought why should I have only a Consultation with Facial Team and wrote to the others. They immediately granted me Consultations too. I believe my FFS will be with one of the three.
best wishes, Greta
Quote from: possessed on June 29, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
That is a great news. The voice will come back and the eyes should look normal in a week or so. I can't wait to see your results. Hugs
Thank you, possessed.
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Quote from: Paula1 on June 29, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Well done Jannicke .. :)
Hugs
Paula
Thanks a lot Paula :-)
Quote from: Greta on June 29, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Hi Jannicke,
happy you are recovering well and improve every days. Yes, the voice will come back soon. Lol, just don't talk too much. I'm personally impressed you of your foresight hiring a nurse. Did you plan this before hand or when you got to BA asking the staff of Dr. DiMaggio. This nurse could be employed by other girls coming for FFS. Hope to see pics of you soon.
Meanwhile I am going to have a Skype Consultation with Dr. DiMaggio on Wednesday morning 11am BA time. Wit Facial Team on Tuesday and with Dr. Rossi from T-Change on Thursday. Have to say that I compared what Dr. DiMaggio and Dr. Rossi want to perform on my face and it is practically the same procedure. Only difference, Dr. Rossi's offer is 5000 Dollars below that of Dr. DiMaggio. Well, I'll see on Wednesday if he doesn't have a special offer for me.
all the best, Greta
Hi Greta,
The need for assistanse was something I thought about in advance. Initially I wanted a close friend of mine to join me at the trip, which would have been a good solution, but he wasn't able to spend that much time abroad. I then turned to Dr Di Maggio which promised that they should provide a good solution after I left the hospital. I just paid a small fee for every time she visited me.
Doing skype is a wise solution in many ways. One important issue to me is to try to get to know the surgeon who actually going to cut and carve in me. If i don't like him he wont get permission. When I consulted with Dr Di Maggio three days before the surgery I got to get to know all the team who was going to perform surgery and after this I was even more reassured that this was the right team for me. Every person though has to make up her mind when it comes to this.
Dear Greta,
Please tell me how you did after the skype contacts!!
Consider all aspects, especially experience and venue!!
All the best.
Another big day today as the nose-casket is to be removed. Dr Di Maggio will be here in a few hours and I'm very excited to see what the proportions are like when the NEW nose appears. It's the ONE thing now that hasn't been revealed sofar.
Level of pain after surgery for me has been neglectable. Since I left the hospital on Friday I haven't taken any painkillers at all-they can have the unused package back if they like. Anyway, this is individual and every one has to make up her own mind if painkillers is necessary. On a scale from 0-10 I'd say 7 right after surgery(postop) and down to 3-4 the day after and now 2-3. Most challenging part has been the eyes after blepharoplasty due to swollennes, but thats improving every day now-as I can see from the pictures I take and just by seeing better. The forehead is a bit thight, but noting serious. I think some of it will be relieved when the nose-cast is removed. Addams-apple hasn't caused me any problem whatsoever, which is a bit funny as a great deal of material has been removed here(very happy about that).
At the top of the head I can feel numbness from the incision and almost to where the back of the head starts, but I can still feel my fingers.
Anyway, if improvement continues the way it has I will consider returning earlier-maybe at the end of this week.
I am so happy that healing is going well. What is your impression of the nose like?
Quote from: possessed on June 30, 2015, 04:45:33 PM
I am so happy that healing is going well. What is your impression of the nose like?
Dear possessed,
I think the best to way respond to that is to copy in a message I sent Dr Di Maggio and team just no-after he was here and removed the nose-casket and I had a chanse to fully study what proportions my face is going to have for the rest of my life.
....................
Dear Dr Di Maggio and team,
What a wonderful job you've done to my face.
Allthough its very early I was very satisfied to see tonight after the nose-casket was removed,that the profil from the forehead and through the nose and down has markedly improved. Being one of my big goals for this surgery this was very, very comforting to see.
Straight on the nose is also well proportioned with the rest of the face.
The balance between the upper and lower part of the face has in addition also improved very much.
This all means so much to me...Thank you so very, very much.
Jannicke
............................
That is a great news. Congratulations. I can't wait to see your results. HUGS and speedy recovery
Dear LadyL,
this morning and in the afternoon I had two Skype Consultations. There is another one coming up tomorrow morning with Dr. DiMaggio.
This morning I had a interview with Dr. Simon from Facial Team. I liked him from the beginning, very relaxed and always trying to go out of his way to explain and answer things. I very much like his approach of less is better than too much. By other Doctors I have been recommended to have a procedure done on my Jaw and also a Lip lift. When seeing me Dr. Simon told me that this wasn't necessary because my Jaw wasn't prominent at all, rather feminine. He also mentioned that a Lip lift wasn't necessary because when I talk my teeth were clearly visible, if they weren't he'd also recommend me to do it. He said what I needed most was forehead and brow area. In addition to that procedure adjust my nose practically as a result.
In the afternoon I meet with Dr. Rossi. What I didn't like is that contrary to Dr. Simon who has done already more than 800 FFS he had done in the last three years only a tad over 40. So I think he is clearly not as experienced as is Dr. Simon. Dr. Rossi has lots of experience in facial reconstruction where he has been and still is working with the Argentinian Army. I do believe that slightly differs from FFS. He also insisted that I needed jaw surgery and a upper lip lift contrary to Dr. Simon. So I must say some doubts crept up in me. Now I am very interested in "meeting" Dr. DiMaggio tomorrow morning.
Thing is when I sent in my pics Dr. DiMaggio and Dr. Rossi sent me an evaluation with the price tag to it. Dr. Simon told me they'd be glad to make an evaluation but want to see me first per Skype Consultation. Then I had the idea to make inquiries with the other Doctors whether it was also possible with them. Now Dr. Simon told me that I will receive an evaluation including the price in two or three days.
Thinking about the whole talk I must say that before it started Facial Team was for me an outsider. After the first two talks they are all of a sudden in the drivers seat. Wonder what tomorrow morning will bring.
love, Greta
Hi Jannicke,
so happy for you! :)
Quote from: Greta on June 30, 2015, 11:34:23 PM
Hi Jannicke,
so happy for you! :)
Hi Greta,
Thanks a lot.
Bit of advice if I may:
Make up your own mind about what needs to be done in order to get the face you would like to have. Do ofcourse receive reccomendations from surgeons-thats important. But tink through things thouroughly afterwards and decide what needs to be done overall. Study the results from the different surgeons and make a note of who delivers consistent, good results in the area you've decided to alter. Ask the surgeons on the shortlist a lot of question over a lengthy period of time about yours conserns. Dont rush into a decision-you are going to live with it for the rest of your life. I spent 8-9 months of patient and hard work before I decided on my surgeon and that was time very well spent.
All the best
Jannicke
Quote from: possessed on June 30, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
That is a great news. Congratulations. I can't wait to see your results. HUGS and speedy recovery
Thank you possessed.
I hope to post some pictures by the end of the week.
All the best,
Jannicke
Quote from: Jannicke on July 01, 2015, 07:54:45 AM
Thank you possessed.
I hope to post some pictures by the end of the week.
All the best,
Jannicke
Anyway, I changed my avatar.
The picture is from today.
Jannicke
what a difference. Already amazing results
Quote from: Greta on June 30, 2015, 11:31:26 PM
Dear LadyL,
In the afternoon I meet with Dr. Rossi. What I didn't like is that contrary to Dr. Simon who has done already more than 800 FFS he had done in the last three years only a tad over 40. So I think he is clearly not as experienced as is Dr. Simon. Dr. Rossi has lots of experience in facial reconstruction where he has been and still is working with the Argentinian Army. I do believe that slightly differs from FFS.
I seriously doubt that Dr. Simon has performed more than 800 FFS already. Dr. Ousterhout performed 950 FFS from 1982, when he "invented" FFS, to 2009, when he published his book. This is 950 FFS in a period of 27 years.
Dr. Simon first approached FFS in 2007 and according to his website, he has performed about 300 FFS: http://facialteam.es/cff-equipo-quirurgico/dr-daniel-simon-es/ which is still more experience than Dr. Rossi, that's out of discussion, but very far from 800 surgeries.
Jannicke, you are looking very good in your avatar picture. I am very happy for you :-)
Quote from: Celia0428 on July 01, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
I seriously doubt that Dr. Simon has performed more than 800 FFS already. Dr. Ousterhout performed 950 FFS from 1982, when he "invented" FFS, to 2009, when he published his book. This is 950 FFS in a period of 27 years.
Dr. Simon first approached FFS in 2007 and according to his website, he has performed about 300 FFS: http://facialteam.es/cff-equipo-quirurgico/dr-daniel-simon-es/ which is still more experience than Dr. Rossi, that's out of discussion, but very far from 800 surgeries.
It says 300 FFS from 2007 to 2010.. We are not in 2010 anymore. Anyway, they do a couple more surgeries per week than dr. Ousterhout did. They do like 4-5 per week, and dr. Bart as well.. It's like FFS factories, which is not something I personally appreciate. I prefer my surgeon and his team well-rested for my surgery...
Jannicke, you already look great! :)
Quote from: mmmmm on July 01, 2015, 03:40:47 PM
It says 300 FFS from 2007 to 2010.. We are not in 2010 anymore. Anyway, they do a couple more surgeries per week than dr. Ousterhout did. They do like 4-5 per week, and dr. Bart as well.. It's like FFS factories, which is not something I personally appreciate. I prefer my surgeon and his team well-rested for my surgery...
Jannicke, you already look great! :)
mmmmm,
Thanks a lot.
I'm very happy already and it can only get better from here.
Dr Di Maggio and his team did a wonderful job.
All the best,
Jannicke
Quote from: Celia0428 on July 01, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Jannicke, you are looking very good in your avatar picture. I am very happy for you :-)
Hi Celia,
Thanks a lot-right now I must the happiest person in Buenos Aires :-)
Dr Di Maggio and his team did a wonderful job.
All the best,
Jannicke
Quote from: mmmmm on July 01, 2015, 03:40:47 PM
It says 300 FFS from 2007 to 2010.. We are not in 2010 anymore. Anyway, they do a couple more surgeries per week than dr. Ousterhout did. They do like 4-5 per week, and dr. Bart as well.. It's like FFS factories, which is not something I personally appreciate. I prefer my surgeon and his team well-rested for my surgery...
Jannicke, you already look great! :)
mmmmm, you may be right. In a more updated version of the website they mention 650 FFS: facialteam.eu/facial-feminization-surgery/#dr-luis-miguel-capitan-canadas. The number grows really fast.
After the nose-casket came of Thuesday evening I could finally stroll a bit outside and went for a 3h walk Yesterday. Wonderful to get outside the appartment again. One effect from the removal of the nose-casket is that the svelling in the forehead increases a bit again. I was a bit taken aback by this as the forehead started to svell a bit more in the evening. Right now it's pretty thight over the entire forehead. Anyway, I'm meeting with Dr Di Maggio later today to have my stiches in the eyes removed. I'm looking forward to that as well as anything that brings me closer to a future, normal status. Svelling around the eyes has been going down steadily from surgery. From almost not being able to see, there's just a light svelling now. The eyes needs a lot more time though before I get a glimpse of the final expression.
I just love the nose. It so captures the whole new expression and is very well proportioned alone and with the rest of the new facial expression.
Voive has slowly started to come back, but I'm still a bit hoarse and try not to use the voice to much.
One consern that popped up the other day is border-controll on the return back. I talked to Dr Di Maggio about this and he is going to write a letter of verification if questions arise at border-controll. I just hope its enough. If not I may need to get a new passport before I leave. Anyone with similar experiences?
The stiches in the forehead wont be removed before a weeks time so I do have some time to make use of here in Buenos Aires. It shouldn't be so difficult to find something to do :-)
Quote from: Jannicke on July 02, 2015, 07:02:14 AM
One consern that popped up the other day is border-controll on the return back. I talked to Dr Di Maggio about this and he is going to write a letter of verification if questions arise at border-controll. I just hope its enough. If not I may need to get a new passport before I leave. Anyone with similar experiences?
I didn't have any problems with border control... I asked Di Maggio for letter, just in case, but I didn't have to show it to anyone.
Quote from: Celia0428 on July 01, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
I seriously doubt that Dr. Simon has performed more than 800 FFS already. Dr. Ousterhout performed 950 FFS from 1982, when he "invented" FFS, to 2009, when he published his book. This is 950 FFS in a period of 27 years.
Dr. Simon first approached FFS in 2007 and according to his website, he has performed about 300 FFS: http://facialteam.es/cff-equipo-quirurgico/dr-daniel-simon-es/ which is still more experience than Dr. Rossi, that's out of discussion, but very far from 800 surgeries.
I also doubt it. In any case quantity does not mean quality! I see poor results, little change in patients. It is unfortunate that Dr. The go retire without having left successors to match. The few that are transforming FFS are very expensive.
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Quote from: mmmmm on July 02, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
I didn't have any problems with border control... I asked Di Maggio for letter, just in case, but I didn't have to show it to anyone.
Thanks a lot for reaching out, mmmmm :-)
I'll check with the embassy tomorrow just in case. My return is through Frankfurt which is Schengen border-controll as well so naturally they are a bit strict here. I just want to be
shure as I have a passboard with a digital photo of my previous fase(E-passboard) and it is checked by reading the pass electronically and comparing with a photo when I arrive. Ofcourse they wont match with the changes in the facial features that has taken place.
After my first FFS I looked totally different. People that knew me all of my life couldn't recognize me. Nobody seemed to care at the immigration. I don't think they even look at the photos. They just stamp the passports and that is it. Have the letter just in case.
Hugs
Quote from: possessed on July 03, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
After my first FFS I looked totally different. People that knew me all of my life couldn't recognize me. Nobody seemed to care at the immigration. I don't think they even look at the photos. They just stamp the passports and that is it. Have the letter just in case.
Hugs
Oh, but they do care a lot at Frankfurt airport, possessed-Its a Schengen-border as well.
I can promise you that they're thourough.
They take your photo when you arrive and compare with the on which is stored in the passboard digitally. If there's a mitchmatch I might be sent back to Buenos Aires to the Norwegian Embassy there. It's more practical to visit the embassy and clear tings up before I embark on my journey, which I visited today and received a statement that says they've made an evalutation an that I can travel back with my old passport. I can do no more now. :) :)
Had my stiches around the eyes removed Yesterday. A scaring experience that went well.
The eyes look better everyday, actually. After the nose-casket came off on Thuesday evening I had a lot more svelling at the forehead the evening after. Luckilly, I managed to get hold of a better ice-pack and use this every hour to cool down the area. It has gone down a bit since Yesteday, but I look forward to the day when that elephant who is sitting om my forehead steps down an disappears.
Sleep is improving all the way ant that's good. From just being able to catnap during the first night at the hospital I'm now getting almost a full nights sleep and thats good.
About the incision at the forehead: I need to find some solution to cover this up properly in order to minimize a scar. Havent been much of an issue up to now actually, since I've spent most of the time inside. Hope to get my stiches removed on Monday and then there's nothing holding me back here in Buenos Aires-rebooking my flight and headning northwards on Thuesday-15 days after I got here and 12 days after surgery.
Jannicke, you look great already! Congrats! Hope you have a save flight home. When are you leaving?
Talking about my own experience. I had a long Skype Consultation with Dr. DiMaggio, like an hour and a half. It was great. It went far beyond what a Doctor would normally talk with a possible Patient. Maybe that was also because I speak fluent Spanish and I have learned throughout the years when you speak Spanish with people from South America they are going out of their way to be helpful.
I mean he even sent me pics which were taken during surgery and explained me what he would do in my case. To cut things short I immediately had the feeling that if in this moment would have been in Buenos Aires I'd had driven straight to the Clinic, phoning the Doctor on the way telling him to do his magic.
Fortunately I wasn't there. Thing is the costs of the whole procedure (two operations within 10 days) would clearly exceed my Budget and leave me with a more than serious hole in my pocket. Though heavy hearted but being responsible I called it off.
I told him that when I had enough money for this procedure I would certainly come to him and would have it done. I am right now in a fairly difficult situation. In about two months or so I have to leave my Family and go back to Germany finishing my Transition there. My Family fears for me doing my Transition here in Ecuador where I currently live. Specially after just a few days ago a transgender woman was attacked by several women and got her face cut into pieces. Thankfully this didn't happen where I live but of course this was enough for my wife to reiterate her request of transitioning in my home country.
This also implies that I had to start a new life, find an apartment, start a new Business etc., so in the end it was a no brainer for me not to do FFS at this moment. In any case I am confident enough to say that I will only have FFS with Dr. DiMaggio. He tried to convince me to still do it and offered me to pay a party now and the rest by installments. I don't know whether he did that because he likes me or what ever, but I still had to refuse simply because I don't want to start my new life with a debt. If my Business doesn't fly immediately I may run into trouble. I mean I can't always hope for the best without thinking it also could go south be prepared for it.
hugs, Greta
Quote from: Greta on July 03, 2015, 10:39:35 PM
Jannicke, you look great already! Congrats! Hope you have a save flight home. When are you leaving?
Talking about my own experience. I had a long Skype Consultation with Dr. DiMaggio, like an hour and a half. It was great. It went far beyond what a Doctor would normally talk with a possible Patient. Maybe that was also because I speak fluent Spanish and I have learned throughout the years when you speak Spanish with people from South America they are going out of their way to be helpful.
I mean he even sent me pics which were taken during surgery and explained me what he would do in my case. To cut things short I immediately had the feeling that if in this moment would have been in Buenos Aires I'd had driven straight to the Clinic, phoning the Doctor on the way telling him to do his magic.
Fortunately I wasn't there. Thing is the costs of the whole procedure (two operations within 10 days) would clearly exceed my Budget and leave me with a more than serious hole in my pocket. Though heavy hearted but being responsible I called it off.
I told him that when I had enough money for this procedure I would certainly come to him and would have it done. I am right now in a fairly difficult situation. In about two months or so I have to leave my Family and go back to Germany finishing my Transition there. My Family fears for me doing my Transition here in Ecuador where I currently live. Specially after just a few days ago a transgender woman was attacked by several women and got her face cut into pieces. Thankfully this didn't happen where I live but of course this was enough for my wife to reiterate her request of transitioning in my home country.
This also implies that I had to start a new life, find an apartment, start a new Business etc., so in the end it was a no brainer for me not to do FFS at this moment. In any case I am confident enough to say that I will only have FFS with Dr. DiMaggio. He tried to convince me to still do it and offered me to pay a party now and the rest by installments. I don't know whether he did that because he likes me or what ever, but I still had to refuse simply because I don't want to start my new life with a debt. If my Business doesn't fly immediately I may run into trouble. I mean I can't always hope for the best without thinking it also could go south be prepared for it.
hugs, Greta
Hi Greta,
Glad to hear about your conversation with Dr Di Maggio. He and his team are really very dedicated, caring and skilled surgeons. I wouldn't be surprised if he and his team can do wonders in your case as they did in my case. It's really a life-changer to do FFS.
Do take care, Greta, back in Equador before you leave for Germany. It seems like the risk involved in being transgender there is far to high. To move back to Germany seems like a wice desision. Most important is your safety.
I hope to be leaving on Thuesday next week after I've removed the stiches on Monday(probably).
Do take care, Greta :-)
All the best,
Jannicke
Finally the weather turned very nice her in Buenos Aires and Deborah and I had a nice day in the city senter and Puerto Madero. I got my bandanas in order to protect the incision from sun and bought a pair of sunglasses to protect the eyes. Truly a great day in the city!
Svelling in the forehead is still very much present, but while in the appartment, I ice it down every hour. The eyes are developing nicely, but there's still coming some liquid from them at night that closes them properly. Svelling in the forehead is present just above the nose and a bit to both sides now. I guess what triggered this was the removal of the nosecast.
In general I'm pretty fit again-spent 6h out today and not tired at all.
Well, tomorrow will be a quiet day and then it's back to Dr Di Maggio on Moday to remove the stiches in the forehead(I hope) and leave Buenos Aires the day after. It's been interesting an very rewarding to be here, but I feel very much like getting back home again now.
Heading back home tomorrow... ;)
Finally, my last day here in Buenos Aires. Tomorrow is travelling day.
After another visit at the embassy in order to correct some error in the letter I received on Friday, I went to see Dr Di Maggio for the last time. Everything was fine and before I knew it the stiches in the forehead and above the addams-apple were gone. Some dissolvable ones are still left in the nose and Dr Di Maggio wondered if I wanted them out now. I declined-they will come out by themselves.
Svelling is still present in my forehead above the nose and a bit on each side. I will take some 2-4 months for it to go down. It just takes some time and I have a lot of patience.
This marks the end of the beginning of the recovery. Now starts a longer period of recovery.
It will be interesting to learn how my face will improve from here and I will be taking photos regularly in the time to come. Right now I'm very happy about my new face and feel liberated and free to do things I've never done before. FFS is truly magic if the outcome of the surgery is good.
I do hope this tread has been useful for all of you that has been reading it.
I wish you all the best in your life. May it be a happy life!
I took some pictures after returning home Yesterday-2 weeks after the surgery.
The change that has taken place is unbelieveable.
http://s592.photobucket.com/user/jannickebergh/library/
All the best
Jannicke
Vive la difference !!
Well done Jannicke ... :)
Quote from: Paula1 on July 09, 2015, 07:10:02 AM
Vive la difference !!
Well done Jannicke ... :)
Thanks, Paula.
It can only get better from here.
Best of luck with your endeavours :-)
Jannicke
That is amazing difference. Congratulations on your successful surgery! How did the immigration go? Sorry for asking even though I know they didn't even look at the photo:)
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Quote from: possessed on July 09, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
That is amazing difference. Congratulations on your successful surgery! How did the immigration go? Sorry for asking even though I know they didn't even look at the photo:)
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Hi possessed,
Thanks a lot ;)
Right now I must be the happiest person in my home-city :-)
Immigration wenth smothly-didn't need anything ells than my passboard and my irresistible, new face :-) I guess I was just over-cautios, but better safe, than sorry:-)
Take care,
Jannicke
Jannicke
Hi Jannicke,Quote from: Jannicke on July 09, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
Thanks, Paula.
You are welcome .. :)
It can only get better from here.
Absolutely
Best of luck with your endeavours :-)
Thank you ... :)
Jannicke
Happy healing
Hugs
Paula
Jannicke,
I analyzed your before and after very carefully and i have nothing to say but what a successful surgery. You now look 100% female and about 20 years younger. I am so happy for you :)
Quote from: possessed on July 10, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Jannicke,
I analyzed your before and after very carefully and i have nothing to say but what a successful surgery. You now look 100% female and about 20 years younger. I am so happy for you :)
Dear possessed,
Thank you very much for saying that :-)
Allthough I noticed the difference in Buenos Aires after the removal of the nose-cast, it was not before I returned home and had the pictures you've seen taken by a friend of mine, that I truly acknowledged how great the difference and improvement was.
For the first time in my life I felt liberated, being able to live the life as the female I truly am. I will never forget what Dr Di Maggio and his team did to my face.
Best of luck with your endeavours, possessed.
Jannicke
Quote from: Celia0428 on July 01, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
I seriously doubt that Dr. Simon has performed more than 800 FFS already. Dr. Ousterhout performed 950 FFS from 1982, when he "invented" FFS, to 2009, when he published his book. This is 950 FFS in a period of 27 years.
Dr. Simon first approached FFS in 2007 and according to his website, he has performed about 300 FFS: http://facialteam.es/cff-equipo-quirurgico/dr-daniel-simon-es/ which is still more experience than Dr. Rossi, that's out of discussion, but very far from 800 surgeries.
You raise an interesting issue. I think the numbers and how they get tossed around in messages can be very confusing.
Doing 300 or 650 FFS "procedures", which is actually what appears to be reported on their web site - - could mean that they have worked on as few as 50 to maybe 150 patients. And those are procedures that are divided among the two of them. It appears they count each portion of the surgery as a different "procedure". For example, if you look at Dr. O's book - - he reports doing over 5,000 FFS "procedures" from 1982 to 2009. That is about 10 or more times as many procedures as any other claim for "procedures" from other surgeons. But read closer, only about 20% of that number (about 1000 patients) had forehead remodeling. But many of those patients had multiple "procedures" - - forehead, jaw, eyes, lip, nose.... etc. That is how you get a large number of "procedures" - - but that is not "surgeries" or patients.
In 1982, Dr. O was already highly experienced and thoroughly trained in plastic, craniofacial and jaw surgery - - but he is pretty candid in his book that he had to teach himself and learn how to do a lot of the difficult FFS stuff, from scratch. Reading between the lines, it took him a while to consistently get the types of optimal results that are now the "gold standard" and fairly routine for him. Apparently, from the history in the book, early on he was frustrated enough that he stopped and took the time to go over to the dental school and did an exhaustive study of the Male/Female skull differences in structural features - - which then allowed him to go back to surgery and vastly improve the results he obtained from the procedures and how he previously did those. There had to be a pretty steep learning curve back in the 1980s - - for even someone with Dr. Ousterhout's training and experience.
If a surgeon were already very well trained in plastic surgery and in craniofacial and jaw surgeries - - and then had someone like Dr. O to work with 10 and 12 hours a day in the operating room for several months and directly transfer all of that early learning curve into a few months of surgeries - - then that same skill set and capability gets compressed into a relatively short period of time and the patients would get the consistent benefit of all that experience.
But without that personal hands-on training - - everyone else is still having to work their way up that 1980's learning curve.
Probably worth while to keep the "numbers" in the right perspective. Those "procedure numbers" have the potential to only be marketing tools and seriously misleading.
A bit of an update..
I'm now 19 days past surgery and back at work again(second day). Feels just fine so far. Still some swelling over the nose at the forehead(mostly on my right side), but nothing that bothers me. Sweeling around the eyes are coming down nicely(no funny colours). Nose feels good, but still some loss of sensation at the surface on my left side. Top of my heed is still numb, but that wont fade away before some months.
There will be some new photos next week.
All the best,
Jannicke
Reading this thread was so exciting and I am so happy for you! I think he did an amazing job. Can't wait for the new pictures. Hope you're doing well!
25 days after surgery and improving. Swelling is down overall as you all can see from the photos which was taken today. Especially the eyes have improved a lot.
Beginning to get back some energy as well. My second week of work now so that's good.
http://s592.photobucket.com/user/jannickebergh/library/
Quote from: indigooutdigo on July 20, 2015, 06:47:18 AM
Reading this thread was so exciting and I am so happy for you! I think he did an amazing job. Can't wait for the new pictures. Hope you're doing well!
I'm glad you appreciated it.
All the best,
Jannicke
Hi I had FFS with Dr DiMaggio in 2012.. I'm thankful to him almost every day. I'm a huge supporter of his work and his M.O. I consulted with every FFS Dr before deciding on him.
I'm actually going to make a post to let people know he's visiting NYC and Miami for SCC this Sept. Ill be posting in this forum.
Ill actually be at his NYC consults to support the community and be available for questions and people can see a live patient :)
im also trying to update my profile here.
If I can help you out regarding Dr D please let me know.
T.
Hi,
Sorry, I'm still new to this formatting. I see that you've had your surgery ~~ congrats!!
Improving all the time. It's now 27 days since surgery. Top of the head is still numb and will be so for some time. Swelling at the forehead is coming down and now consentrates on the lower forehead. Beginning to get some sensation back on the left side of the nose. Eyes are less swollen as clearly indicated by the pictures-huge change in just 13 days!
Some scar-tissue a bit above my addams-apple which I'm massaging and putting cream on regularly in order to reduce it. Energy is coming back more and more.
You cand find some new photos here:
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/jannicke47B/library/
I'm getting more and more pleased with my new facial expression :D
All the best,
Jannicke
Quote from: Jannicke on July 22, 2015, 01:05:27 PM
Improving all the time. It's now 27 days since surgery. Top of the head is still numb and will be so for some time. Swelling at the forehead is coming down and now consentrates on the lower forehead. Beginning to get some sensation back on the left side of the nose. Eyes are less swollen as clearly indicated by the pictures-huge change in just 13 days!
Some scar-tissue a bit above my addams-apple which I'm massaging and putting cream on regularly in order to reduce it. Energy is coming back more and more.
You cand find some new photos here:
http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/jannicke47B/library/
I'm getting more and more pleased with my new facial expression :D
All the best,
Jannicke
The difference is huge. You have got the maximum that one can get with FFS. Very good choice of doctor. Have you seen any first hand Jaw/ Chin results from DR. MDM?
Quote from: possessed on July 23, 2015, 09:14:56 AM
The difference is huge. You have got the maximum that one can get with FFS. Very good choice of doctor. Have you seen any first hand Jaw/ Chin results from DR. MDM?
Hi possessed,
No first-hand, but I know he has done quite a lot. My suggestion is that you ask Dr Di Maggio for references. I know he'll be more than happy to give them to you.
Best of luck with your search.
Jannicke
Thank you sweetie
39 days since surgery now..
Pretty numb still at the top of head as expected. Mostly all of the scab has come off from the incisison at the forehead, but a bit is left at the front. Svelling is down more at the forehead, but still some left at the lower part ower both eyes and the nose. Both eyes do still have some svelling and I still experience some liquid appearing from the eyes during my sleep at night.
Almost all of the sensation is back at the left part of the nose. I still have the lump over my addams-apple which is due to the internal scar-prosess after the thyorid cartilage reduction. Anyway, I use some cream regularly and massage it a bit and the lump is decreasing in size.
In general I feel fine, but experience some fatigue now and then. Been working for 3,5 weeks now. I've been walking daily since I got back from Buenos Aires, but I wanted to wait a bit before resuming running. I started to run again this week and felt fine-just a bit out of shape :) Most interesting experience is actually having to deal with employes and business-associates who clearly see the difference, but are having some difficulties with dealing with it. Interesting experience, and clearly there is a positive difference from my previous facial apperance when I'm encountering people I haven't met before. Nice to reap the benefits from such an ordeal. ;)
I am so happy for you sister. Your surgery is a major success, and it is a life changing experience indeed. I have never experienced fatigue after anesthesia but I always had to deal with depression even though normally I don't suffer from that. Anyway the surgery and the anesthesia are major shock to the body so take your time to fully recover. It will happen in no time :D
Quote from: possessed on August 02, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
I am so happy for you sister. Your surgery is a major success, and it is a life changing experience indeed. I have never experienced fatigue after anesthesia but I always had to deal with depression even though normally I don't suffer from that. Anyway the surgery and the anesthesia are major shock to the body so take your time to fully recover. It will happen in no time :D
Thanks a lot possessed :D
All the best,
Jannicke
Thank you so much for posting your experiences with MDM, I'm scheduled for Nov. 26 and your posts have calmed me down (at least for the time being). I've never had surgery, I don't really know my own pain threshold so I've been obsessing on whether or not I need to bring my own painkillers in case it gets unbearable, but after reading that you didn't use anything but ibuprofen I'm feeling a bit less stressed about it :)
-Allie
Hello allie,
I'm glad to hear that my tread here has been helpfull to you. By the way, I didn't use any painkiller at all. The best of luck with your surgery. Dr Di Maggio and his team are truly skilled, professional and caring.
Quote from: Jannicke on September 18, 2015, 02:48:46 PM
Hello allie,
I'm glad to hear that my tread here has been helpfull to you. By the way, I didn't use any painkiller at all. The best of luck with your surgery. Dr Di Maggio and his team are truly skilled, professional and caring.
After just having jaw and chin surgery; IMHO, unless your surgeon is not very aggressive, pain medicine is an absolute necessity.
Quote from: kittenpower on September 18, 2015, 03:16:36 PM
After just having jaw and chin surgery; IMHO, unless your surgeon is not very aggressive, pain medicine is an absolute necessity.
Holy Meow!!! Personally I didn't feel like you needed any FFS
Hope you heal up quickly
Hugs
Thanks VM :)
I had a really square jaw that I was very unhappy with, and I wanted the other procedures done to compliment my new jaw, and to give me a freshened up look (freshened up look coming in the near future, lol).
QuoteAfter just having jaw and chin surgery; IMHO, unless your surgeon is not very aggressive, pain medicine is an absolute necessity.
Hi Kittenpower,
I'm just wondering what pain meds you got, it would make me feel better knowing I'll have access to it if I need it. Is it Tramadol? Congratulations on your surgery BTW!!
Thanks :)
Dr. Zukowski did my surgery, so I was able to get narcotic pain medicine. I also had masseter muscle reduction in my jaw, a neck lift, and fat transfer to my lips and nasolabial folds (smile lines), so I have extra pain and swelling.
Quote from: kittenpower on September 18, 2015, 03:16:36 PM
After just having jaw and chin surgery; IMHO, unless your surgeon is not very aggressive, pain medicine is an absolute necessity.
Kittenpower/allie
As you will se from this tread I underwent forehead surgery, rhinoplasty, blepharoplasty, midfacepexia and thyorid cartilage reduction. I didn't have any need for painkillers.
Congratulations with the surgery, Kittenpower. Do hope for a very good outcome.
Jannicke
Quote from: Jannicke on September 19, 2015, 01:36:20 PM
Kittenpower/allie
As you will se from this tread I underwent forehead surgery, rhinoplasty, blepharoplasty, midfacepexia and thyorid cartilage reduction. I didn't have any need for painkillers.
Congratulations with the surgery, Kittenpower. Do hope for a very good outcome.
Jannicke
Thanks Jannicke :)
Time for a new update..
It's now 5,5 months since surgery. Regaining more and more sensation at the top of my head, stil some strain at the forehead, nose is settling just fine, but still have a small lump right above my adams-aple after the thyorid cartilage reduction. I added some pictures taken just a week ago in addition to pictures 1 month after surgery and before surgery
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Amazing result! Not a trace of masculinity anywhere!
I agree, you look really really good, and your current avatar picture is my favorite from the slideshow.
Quote from: Jannicke on December 12, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
Time for a new update..
It's now 5,5 months since surgery. Regaining more and more sensation at the top of my head, stil some strain at the forehead, nose is settling just fine, but still have a small lump right above my adams-aple after the thyorid cartilage reduction. I added some pictures taken just a week ago in addition to pictures 1 month after surgery and before surgery
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Your surgery outcome is really spectacular. Upper face completely transformed.
Quote from: BellaSwan on December 12, 2015, 10:50:29 AM
Amazing result! Not a trace of masculinity anywhere!
Thanks for saying that. I'm very satisfied with the outcome myself
Quote from: kittenpower on December 12, 2015, 02:05:45 PM
I agree, you look really really good, and your current avatar picture is my favorite from the slideshow.
Thanks a lot Kittenpower
Quote from: SamSparks on December 12, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
Your surgery outcome is really spectacular. Upper face completely transformed.
I achieved what I hoped to. Dr Di Maggio is the best to do aggressive forehead recountering with a natural look.
Quote from: Jannicke on December 13, 2015, 07:13:45 PM
I achieved what I hoped to. Dr Di Maggio is the best to do aggressive forehead recountering with a natural look.
Vc está usando prótese capilar ou fez transplante? Está com um ótimo volume
I'd be happy to provide an answer to your question but you'll have to ask in english.
Hi Jannicke ... :)
It's Portuguese and Google says:
U are using hair prosthesis or transplants done ? It is with a great volume
Thank you, Paula 1. I used the translator, but out in Portuguese. Sorry
You are welcome ... :)
Quote from: jhulyglow on January 08, 2016, 09:53:50 AM
Thank you, Paula 1. I used the translator, but out in Portuguese. Sorry
Quote from: Jannicke on December 12, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
Time for a new update..
It's now 5,5 months since surgery. Regaining more and more sensation at the top of my head, stil some strain at the forehead, nose is settling just fine, but still have a small lump right above my adams-aple after the thyorid cartilage reduction. I added some pictures taken just a week ago in addition to pictures 1 month after surgery and before surgery
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Beautiful results Jannicke :)
Quote from: maquillage on January 10, 2016, 09:27:41 PM
Beautiful results Jannicke :)
maguillage,
Thank you for your kind words.
All the best,
Jannicke
Quote from: kittenpower on September 18, 2015, 03:16:36 PM
After just having jaw and chin surgery; IMHO, unless your surgeon is not very aggressive, pain medicine is an absolute necessity.
I had extremely aggressive jaw/chin surgery (not only large reduction, but many osteotomies) and I am 7 days post-op with Dr. DiMaggio. I stopped using painkillers on the second day, although I primarily needed them for my chin. I could have gone without, but the medicine helped dull the sharp sensation associated with any movement (opening my mouth any wider than a teaspoon could fit, basically).
I don't think painkillers are always necessary regardless of aggression, although I think I may be in the minor camp on this one. I've seen many other people complain of jaw/chin pain with FFS.
How did the scar?I not had much luck with that. And a slight bone asymmetry, which leaves a raised eyebrow than the other. In the photos disguises well, but personally people notice it in me.
Many people have asymmetry with their eyebrows.
Having them identical can look unnatural.
Each side of the face is different to the other.
But bone asymmetry is bad. To measure right to avoid these differences. After I show my scar to hear from you. Thanks
I've been looking into Dr dimaggio. He has given me an evaluation and next comes a Skype consultation. He has been given good reviews by my primary doc.
What sort of accommodation costs should I expect in argentina?
Quote from: iKate on January 22, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
I've been looking into Dr dimaggio. He has given me an evaluation and next comes a Skype consultation. He has been given good reviews by my primary doc.
What sort of accommodation costs should I expect in argentina?
You can find some really reasonable accommodations depending on what you are looking for. I'm renting a decent apartment in Bs. As. through Airbnb for 18 nights and it'll cost me around $500.
Quote from: iKate on January 22, 2016, 06:41:01 PM
I've been looking into Dr dimaggio. He has given me an evaluation and next comes a Skype consultation. He has been given good reviews by my primary doc.
What sort of accommodation costs should I expect in argentina?
Perhaps MdM office has apt recommendations.
I was in BA for a month for Dr Rossi FFS. They provided a list of several apt choices. The 1 bdrm I chose cost USD$600. Not sure what it would be now, Argentine Peso has strengthen vs USD since the Argentine Presidential elections.
How do I post photo?
jhulyglow,
Bone swelling can be incredibly residual. I don't know how long ago your surgery was, how old you are, or what condition your skin is in, but they can all be factors in the healing process. Even little things, like which side of your body you sleep on and how oily your skin is, can have a lasting impact on swelling.
If it hasn't been a year yet, or even more depending on your age, I wouldn't be convinced that something is wrong. Also, bone asymmetry is completely normal. There is a certain degree of asymmetry expected in humans, and it is only an aesthetic cause for concern when you are past that point.
To insert an image, you have to upload it to somewhere on the internet and then use the image button (under "B"). You can also give the link to where you uploaded the picture.
iKate,
My apartment cost me ~900 USD (before deposit) and I rented it for 34 nights. It's a studio, sadly, and not my first choice, but it suits me well enough. It has some issues, like the a/c leaking (which I use a bucket for and ignore), the shower head doesn't sit well, and it is quite noisy until 1AM at times because it is in the party district (Palermo). I otherwise don't really have any complaints.
The location is great (LOTS of shops nearby) and it has a balcony with a pleasant view. If I had only stayed for 3 weeks, I suspect the price would have been closer to 600-700. My first choice was ~1,100 USD for 34 nights and was much nicer (not a studio, modern TV, more amenities, probably in better condition), but someone snatched it up an hour before I tried.
If you spend in the range of ~1,000 for 30 nights (or equivalent for more/less days), I think you should be comfortable. I hope this helps!
Thanks Sibila.
My scar. 1 year and 2 months later. It was the same with you? It is normal that failure, hair loss?
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My sensitivity to the head did not return fully after surgery. It was the same with you? I thought that by having more than a year would already be normal.
Quote from: jhulyglow on January 27, 2016, 10:03:30 AM
My sensitivity to the head did not return fully after surgery. It was the same with you? I thought that by having more than a year would already be normal.
Hello jhulyglow ,
I'm afraid I'm not on Facebook so I can't see your picture.
Anyway, I',m 7 months postop now and a great deal of my sensitivy on top of the head has returned. It's still to early to make a final evaluation(I'll wait at least one year). If it doesnt return fully I will still feel that it was worth it in order to gain what I've achieved, but that may not be the way you see it.
It is quite normal, as I understand, that some of the sensitivity is lost because of the surgery connected with the incision at the top of the forehead. Have you discussed it with your surgeon? Hope you recover more of your sensitivity
All the best,
Jannicke
Thanks, Jannicke
My scar. (https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/821x308q90/922/T7dFHG.jpg)
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1 year and 2 months after surgery. I frontoplasty with the scalp advancement.It happened to you too? The doctor said it was due to tension. Future plan to do hair transplant to correct entries and these failures. Kisses to all
Then it's settled. Leaving to see Dr Di Maggio and his team at the end of June this year to carry out what I consider the remaining part of the surgery in my face and some more.
I'm carrying out face- and necklift and liposuction of my tummy tuck.
Surgery date is 30th of June-2016.
Looking forward to finalize the surgery in my face and I'm very happy to be able to do that with Dr Di Maggio and his team.
I'll be back with some before and afters later on..
Hi Jannicke,
Good luck at the end of June, bet you can't wait like yours truly who will be in Spain in under 3 weeks time now.
Hugs
Paula
Quote from: Paula1 on March 13, 2016, 03:10:56 AM
Hi Jannicke,
Good luck at the end of June, bet you can't wait like yours truly who will be in Spain in under 3 weeks time now.
Hugs
Paula
Hi Paula,
Thanks a lot and good luck with your surgery :-)
All the best,
Jannicke
Thanks Jannicke ... :)
Take care
Hugs
Paula
Quote from: Jannicke on March 13, 2016, 02:23:18 PM
Hi Paula,
Thanks a lot and good luck with your surgery :-)
All the best,
Jannicke
Jannicke
YOU LOOK WONDERFUL
IM from SLOVENIA and consider also Di Maggio, since i met a year ago here one girl who went to him and have also great results, can you tell me about around how the cost hast been???? Tranvel from europe to argentina, surgery, apapertment, so all in all around that i can imagine in wich way with money it goes, that would be very nice of you
You all look womnderful who went to him, i can see that he is really A MAGICO hehe
lots of hugs
Hey I guess, I'll be missing you by a little, since I am leaving tomorrow to see Dr. DiMaggio! It would have been nice to meet you and thank you in person.
Thanks again for all your help and have a great surgery and recovery!
CHEERS!