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Title: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Katie Ellen on January 08, 2018, 02:18:52 PM
I've never really been into wearing a dress/skirt and heels. Seems like the majority of those here do favor that.

I haven't gone out in public yet, but when I do I'm sure that I'll be wearing jeans or leggings. I just want to blend in.

So, am I the odd one here?
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Katie Jade on January 08, 2018, 02:21:51 PM
Absolutely not - Girls jeans rule :)
Seriously just wear what you feel comfortable in. I so love leggings and jeans, some say I look better in them anyway.
Hugz
Katie
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 02:23:47 PM
I love jeans and tees, it's what I usually wear, because it's usually what the occasion calls for. And that's the secret: Dress appropriately. You don't blend being underdressed in a situation that calls for something nicer, in fact, you can look uncouth.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Cassi on January 08, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: raeanne on January 08, 2018, 02:18:52 PM
I've never really been into wearing a dress/skirt and heels. Seems like the majority of those here do favor that.

I haven't gone out in public yet, but when I do I'm sure that I'll be wearing jeans or leggings. I just want to blend in.

So, am I the odd one here?

I'm kinda into the jeans and tops thing myself.  My daughter gave me a couple of dresses and I still prefer the jeans or maybe slacks.  Did buy a pair of knee high boots on sale and they're great.

Kind of easing in on my new self.  As far as public, not yet but then again I'm still too male to do female in public for now but I think things will mellow and fem out over the next several months allowing me to be me.

Also, experiment with a little make-up, not much.  Too old to end up looking like a hooker, lol.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Shambles on January 08, 2018, 02:25:08 PM
Full desclosure ive not got any lady clothes atm, i think i could rock a skirt and tights if i thought i looked decent you know if confidance is high but for everyday use i would preffer skinny jeans leggings or shorts. As for shoes ive always been into trainers
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: KathyLauren on January 08, 2018, 02:31:59 PM
You aren't strange at all.  I wear skirts at home because I find them more comfortable.  But i dress to blend in when outside.  I'll wear skirts when I can get away with it.  But if I'm grocery shopping in winter, I'll rock some skinny jeans and boots.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: krobinson103 on January 08, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
Women's pattern jeans and t shirts/tops for me. Men's Shirts (bright colours) for when I want to make my wife a bit more comfortable. Also have some men's shorts, and my old wardrobe (which I hate!) I'd love to wear a skirt / dress but to be honest I'm not ready and really wouldn't pass well so its not worth it yet.

At present I can easily do gender neutral, or female at a distance, but close up five o'clock shadow and short hair is a give away. :( I suppose I could go with makeup to conceal and a wig, but I don't like the look. Prefer natural so the makeup I do use is fairly close to skin tones so its not obvious unless you get  really close.

The one thing I won't hide is my bright pink toe nails. That people can wonder about all they like...
Title: Am I the odd one?
Post by: elkie-t on January 08, 2018, 02:55:11 PM
You aren't odd. Most women nowadays dress in jeans or yoga pants 90% of time and many trans ladies do the same (for comfort, as well as to blend in).

I personally don't like pants en femme. I don't get into the right mindset wearing pants (even girl-pants), besides my butt is too small for a female, it's impossible to find jeans tall enough for me, tucking must be done much better than with a skirt. Why the hell to go through all of the trouble if I still cannot wear skirts, makeup, heels (what I want) and be a free spirit? Maybe it came from my mom who once said (at a young age of 50, 'I'm not a [boring] man to wear pants',  or at another time - 'when I stop wearing heels, you can    call me old'.


Edit: but, would I have the bottom surgery, nice fat redistribution into my butt, and Brazilian butt lift... I can see myself wearing yoga pants, or even jeans during cold season...
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: CarlyMcx on January 08, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
Definitely not odd.  I wore skinny jeans and girly T shirts for a year before I ever started wearing skirts and dresses.

I tend to be pretty deliberate and methodical in terms of how I do things, and I spent months watching how women wore skirts and dresses, thought about how things would look on me, and then did a lot of very picky shopping.

But now, after all this time, I love how cute an A line skirt looks over tights, leggings, or stockings.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Jamie_06 on January 08, 2018, 03:11:21 PM
I do enjoy wearing dresses and find them very comfortable. Heels on the other hand.... nope! Not interested. Those just look really uncomfortable and hard to move in, and I don't have any interest in wearing them. Also I do enjoy how I look in girl jeans. Skirts are definitely superior to shorts though as I like the freedom of movement and feeling the breeze around my legs.

Ultimately, it isn't about the clothes at all. It's about being able to see myself as female, and clothing is just a means to an end.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Katie Ellen on January 08, 2018, 03:20:48 PM
I have nothing against those who like wearing skirts. Someday, when the occasion is right, I probably will too. I'm almost 5'10" (I know that's not real tall) so I might feel a little tall with higher heels. They do make your legs look good though.

I do like the idea of a skirt over leggings. Maybe with boots?
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: elkie-t on January 08, 2018, 03:30:35 PM
Quote from: raeanne on January 08, 2018, 03:20:48 PM
I do like the idea of a skirt over leggings. Maybe with boots?
Knee-high boots + knee-length skirt... why do you even need leggings???

I mean, I can see leggings + miniskirt, or skirt + leggings + bootie, but if your leggings are going to be covered up, why bother wearing them? Even in cold weather, you are ok without leggings (unless you depend on public transportation)...
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Katie Ellen on January 08, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
I was thinking the short boots I have. Just above the ankles.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Jin on January 08, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
It would be too boring to dress the same every day! Skirt or dress one day and jeans and blouse the next for me. And some days I just grab my boy clothes. Leggings under a skirt is nice on cool days. Shorts and a cami on hot days.

I haven't been able to pass for decades and don't even try anymore.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Gertrude on January 08, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
It's funny, but as a male, I'm a tee shirt and jeans type, but my female side dresses better. Unless I'm doing an activity where pants make more sense, I'd rather wear skirts and dresses.


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: elkie-t on January 08, 2018, 04:45:21 PM
In addition to what I wrote earlier, I think a skirt makes a strong statement and give a solid cue how I want to be perceived.

I'm not stealth-passable, so wearing a skirt prevents questions like 'are you male or female'... or rather makes my answer easier - don't you see, I wear a skirt!


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
I live for people asking me if I'm male or female so I can reply with a resounding "Yes."  :laugh:
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Rachel on January 08, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I am full time and have worn a dress to a formal. Other than that work cloths are a top and slacks. Short boots or flats as weather dictates. At home tops and jeans or shorts. I like some skirts but have yet worn them at work. Perhaps another new years resolution. When I exercise it is spandex bottoms and tops. In the winter I wear 3 layers of the super warm with sweat pants and thermal hoodie. I like the colored exercise gear.

I told my operations manager if he wore a kilt I would wear a skirt. He wants to wear a black utility kilt at work and I told him he could. So maybe a skirt at work soon. I discussed it with some woman at work and they recommend a skirt with leggings and knee high boots (I have a nice pair yet to be worn)

OP, you are not weird. Where what you are comfortable with.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Lexi Nexi on January 08, 2018, 05:32:30 PM
Quote from: raeanne on January 08, 2018, 02:18:52 PM
I've never really been into wearing a dress/skirt and heels. Seems like the majority of those here do favor that.

I haven't gone out in public yet, but when I do I'm sure that I'll be wearing jeans or leggings. I just want to blend in.

So, am I the odd one here?

I'll post before reading: Probably. I HATE wearing pants and boxer shorts or even briefs. My whole life I have wanted to wear a dress, heels, pink, and lacy underwear and stalkings. I don't even mind that walking for 8 hours in 3" heels is painful it feels better then it's bad and I got used to it in one day. I can see pants for doing out door stuff only. The only exception might be really short skirts in summer because I like showing off my legs. The women in my family always dressed up so maybe thats where it comes from. But I am/plan to always dress up even if it takes 2 hours in the morning I love every bit of it.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Sarah_P on January 08, 2018, 05:42:23 PM
I wear dresses and skirts when the occasion calls for it, but mostly I wear jeans/pants or leggings.
With as cold as it's been lately I'm usually wearing leggings under the pants, anyway. Plus it gives me an extra layer if I'm at a friend's house and it's warmer, I can take off the pants & still be dressed.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Roll on January 08, 2018, 09:01:47 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 08, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
I live for people asking me if I'm male or female so I can reply with a resounding "Yes."  :laugh:

I live for people asking me if I want a cookie so I can reply with a resounding "Yes." And get a cookie.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Doreen on January 08, 2018, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 08, 2018, 02:23:47 PM
I love jeans and tees, it's what I usually wear, because it's usually what the occasion calls for. And that's the secret: Dress appropriately. You don't blend being underdressed in a situation that calls for something nicer, in fact, you can look uncouth.

Hugs, Devlyn

See here is where I differ from many. I'm 6'2.  I'm tall, skinny, and have a good figure & face. Frankly I'll never just 'blend in' I'll always stick out no matter where.  Might as well make it look good anyways, because people will notice me however I choose to dress.  That's just my viewpoint on it.  I generally choose to look cute, whether thats in shapely leggings or a nice dress.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: jessica95 on January 09, 2018, 03:19:55 AM
Quote from: raeanne on January 08, 2018, 02:18:52 PM
I've never really been into wearing a dress/skirt and heels. Seems like the majority of those here do favor that.

I haven't gone out in public yet, but when I do I'm sure that I'll be wearing jeans or leggings. I just want to blend in.

So, am I the odd one here?
Nope! People has different tastes, not everyone likes dress/skirt and heels. Wear what you want, and dont be ashamed of anything!
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Jayne01 on January 09, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
I can't see myself wearing a dress day to day. Maybe if an Occassion called for dressing up. On a daily basis I would prefer some type of pants with a nice top.

You are not odd at all.

Jayne
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Janes Groove on January 09, 2018, 02:27:57 PM
I push the boundaries and wear skirts a lot.  Even to Walmart. I'm a girly girl.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: elkie-t on January 09, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
I always wonder if it's a distinction based on crossdresser vs transsexual? Crossdressers want to wear skirts because they represent utmost female clothes, transsexuals don't care that much about clothes and wear what other women wear (and it's 80% of time pants, at least in USA).


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: KathyLauren on January 09, 2018, 03:30:13 PM
Quote from: elkie-t on January 09, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
I always wonder if it's a distinction based on crossdresser vs transsexual? Crossdressers want to wear skirts because they represent utmost female clothes, transsexuals don't care that much about clothes and wear what other women wear (and it's 80% of time pants, at least in USA).
I don't think I agree.  I am a transsexual (got my first surgery letter!), but I definitely prefer skirts.  I think it depends more on what the focus of your dysphoria was.  Mine centred around gender presentation, so I felt the enforced skirt-deprivation very keenly when I had to present as male.  Wearing skirts is kind of a rebound effect, overcompensating for the years of deprivation.

I am not sure that makes me a cross-dresser, even though that was my main dysphoria relief before I started transitioning.  I still have body dysphoria, and now that I am dealing with my presentation, I am starting to work on it.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Geeker on January 09, 2018, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: raeanne on January 08, 2018, 02:18:52 PM
I've never really been into wearing a dress/skirt and heels. Seems like the majority of those here do favor that.

I haven't gone out in public yet, but when I do I'm sure that I'll be wearing jeans or leggings. I just want to blend in.

So, am I the odd one here?

Yes, but no more so than anyone else  :P . If it makes you feel any better, I'm not too terribly big on dresses/skirts and heels either... I'd probably break my neck in a pair of heels.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Lexi Nexi on January 09, 2018, 08:19:25 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 08, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
I live for people asking me if I'm male or female so I can reply with a resounding "Yes."  :laugh:

From your picture I would never guess that you were trans.. :)

I havent left the house today and im wearing a short black skater dress and knee high boots that lace up the sides with three inch heels. I just like walking in them.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Gertrude on January 09, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: elkie-t on January 09, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
I always wonder if it's a distinction based on crossdresser vs transsexual? Crossdressers want to wear skirts because they represent utmost female clothes, transsexuals don't care that much about clothes and wear what other women wear (and it's 80% of time pants, at least in USA).


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Cross dresser seems like an archaic word to me. Not as bad as ->-bleeped-<-, but getting there. Transgender seems to cover more real estate.


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: elkie-t on January 09, 2018, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: Gertrude on January 09, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
Cross dresser seems like an archaic word to me. Not as bad as ->-bleeped-<-, but getting there. Transgender seems to cover more real estate.

I don't think it's archaic or inappropriate. I think it defines a very big subset of transgender population. But my vocabulary formed in 20th century, maybe it is a bit outdated for 21st... I don't care really. As my grandma used to say, 'ass is a bad word but each of us has it.' - meaning we sometimes cannot avoid using 'bad' words and there's nothing inherently bad about them if used in the right context.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Lucy Ross on January 09, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Someone quipped that the way to tell transsexuals from crossdressers is that the TSs are wearing comfortable clothes.  The CDs I've met were are dressed to the nines, no surprise since it was a night on the town for everyone; I don't think I need to meet more of them in person because they fill up hard drives with photos of themselves, which are posted all over the internet.  Maybe there's an odd duck CD out there who is content with just jeans and tops.  I thought I was something along those lines, then figured out that I'm really a TS.  I still can't stand taking pictures of myself, and haven't delved too deeply into my looks; I'm waiting for my body to develop the way it should be.

Anyway, transwomen are, you know, women.  Crossdressers are men temporarily enacting the fantasy of being women - and I mean FANTASY.  Nothing wrong with fantasies, and CDs are wholly enthralled to what they do, same as our dysphorias compel us; I'm not looking down on them by any means.  Some TSs are snappy dressers, glamorous, etc.  Again, the ones I've met in person were all pretty straightforward gals; about the flashiest thing on display were some cute nail jobs.   I don't know where the OP got the idea we were a pack of skirts and heels, maybe from avatar photos?

Another thing about TSs is that we tend to go overboard on the femininity when we do start to transitioning, and dresses/skirts are unquestionably a lot more feminine than jeans.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Roll on January 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
It really depends on what you mean by cross dressing. I've seen plenty of guys wearing women's clothing simply as every day clothing, with jeans being the obvious one. Lots of guys wear women's jeans(or I guess did, sort of fell out of style?). More feminine tops not so much, but then a lot of shirts are gender neutral or hard to discern the difference to begin with. By the standard of simply a guy wearing women's clothing, I'd wager jeans and at least neutral tops are more common by a staggering margin. But then of course most of the time, that isn't really considered cross dressing. Which sort of begs the question... is cross dressing only cross dressing when it's blatant? If so, then it would simply be a given that cross dressers are wearing skirts and dresses, as anything less might not quite be recognizable as cross dressing to begin with even if it is technically.

Anyway, it is all academic since it all comes down to self identification in the end.

Quote from: Lucy Ross on January 09, 2018, 09:52:57 PM

Another thing about TSs is that we tend to go overboard on the femininity when we do start to transitioning, and dresses/skirts are unquestionably a lot more feminine than jeans.

While I like the idea of skirts and dresses, I think for me it's more about the leggings starting out. I like my one skirt, but nothing screams feminine more than contour hugging leggings. (Also, for me, I pull the leggings off way better.)

Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: TonyaW on January 09, 2018, 10:32:06 PM


Quote from: Lucy Ross on January 09, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Someone quipped that the way to tell transsexuals from crossdressers is that the TSs are wearing comfortable clothes. 

I heard that one as the difference between a crossdresser and a transsexual is 20 to 30 years.

Quote from: Lucy Ross on January 09, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Another thing about TSs is that we tend to go overboard on the femininity when we do start to transitioning, and dresses/skirts are unquestionably a lot more feminine than jeans.

That would be me. I don't do the skirts and heels everyday, but definitely go with a more feminine look clothes and make up wise.  For me it's about being perceived as female while my body is not yet there.  It's easier for me to dress more "comfortable" i.e., shorts and womens t-shirts etc. and still feel like I'm perceived female in the warmer months. 

In other words, as I said to my wife when she told me that other women don't dress so girly all the time "no one calls you sir when you don't". 

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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: TonyaW on January 09, 2018, 10:39:58 PM


Quote from: Roll on January 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
While I like the idea of skirts and dresses, I think for me it's more about the leggings starting out. I like my one skirt, but nothing screams feminine more than contour hugging leggings. (Also, for me, I pull the leggings off way better.)

Yes. 

And yes leggings are pants. 

And they can be worn with some skirts for  a more casual look.

And they are comfortable.

And they can make your butt look great (not necessarily mine though)



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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Lexi Nexi on January 09, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
Quote from: Gertrude on January 09, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
Cross dresser seems like an archaic word to me. Not as bad as ->-bleeped-<-, but getting there. Transgender seems to cover more real estate.


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I used to consider myself a cross dresser but it was just away for me to write off how I really felt. I could just say "its just a weird fetish" but the more I went on forums the more I realized I wasn't like most of them who had been dressing for 25 years and haven't told their wives of 25 years. That seems like a horrible situation and hope to meet my next partner as a woman not as a man (still not sure if I'm 100% straight I really want to try being with a man as a women and I find guys who are really intelligent attractive much like how women feel). Plus what kind of husband keeps secrets from their wives? Seems cowardly and lying by omission. Dressing up as a girl is fun but I want to look like a girl with no clothes on. That for me is the ultimate goal.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Sarah_P on January 10, 2018, 12:13:00 AM
Yes, early on I greatly lamented that current fashions (most women not wearing skirts and dresses as often) made it problematic to express my years of suppressed femininity. I still like wearing them, but as I said, generally only when the situation calls for it. Skirts are also darn hard to deal with when getting in and out of cars.
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Gertrude on January 10, 2018, 05:28:56 AM
Quote from: elkie-t on January 09, 2018, 09:27:13 PM
I don't think it's archaic or inappropriate. I think it defines a very big subset of transgender population. But my vocabulary formed in 20th century, maybe it is a bit outdated for 21st... I don't care really. As my grandma used to say, 'ass is a bad word but each of us has it.' - meaning we sometimes cannot avoid using 'bad' words and there's nothing inherently bad about them if used in the right context.
You chose bad. I said archaic. Like my Co-worker calling a post op trans person a ->-bleeped-<-. Understand changes.


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Gertrude on January 10, 2018, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: Lucy Ross on January 09, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Someone quipped that the way to tell transsexuals from crossdressers is that the TSs are wearing comfortable clothes.  The CDs I've met were are dressed to the nines, no surprise since it was a night on the town for everyone; I don't think I need to meet more of them in person because they fill up hard drives with photos of themselves, which are posted all over the internet.  Maybe there's an odd duck CD out there who is content with just jeans and tops.  I thought I was something along those lines, then figured out that I'm really a TS.  I still can't stand taking pictures of myself, and haven't delved too deeply into my looks; I'm waiting for my body to develop the way it should be.

Anyway, transwomen are, you know, women.  Crossdressers are men temporarily enacting the fantasy of being women - and I mean FANTASY.  Nothing wrong with fantasies, and CDs are wholly enthralled to what they do, same as our dysphorias compel us; I'm not looking down on them by any means.  Some TSs are snappy dressers, glamorous, etc.  Again, the ones I've met in person were all pretty straightforward gals; about the flashiest thing on display were some cute nail jobs.   I don't know where the OP got the idea we were a pack of skirts and heels, maybe from avatar photos?

Another thing about TSs is that we tend to go overboard on the femininity when we do start to transitioning, and dresses/skirts are unquestionably a lot more feminine than jeans.
While I think some people that cross dress are over the top and at time dress inappropriately, I try not to paint with too broad a brush. As someone said here, the difference between a cross dresser and a ts is 20-30 years. I think that's true for many. Our understanding changes and we evolve too.


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Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Katie Ellen on January 10, 2018, 06:19:24 AM
I apologize for using the word "here" in my original post. I'm new to this forum. I've spent many years on others though. I don't know how to see photos here except for avatars or if it's in a post. So my opinion was based on general internet viewing of forums. Not this one.





Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Colleen_definitely on January 10, 2018, 06:29:45 AM
I like my skirts and dresses but tend toward jeans and whatnot since they're a bit more practical and still comfy.  There's no way I could do the skirt thing at work since I'm constantly climbing on things, up and down ladders, working on the floor, working underneath things, etc. 
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Devlyn on January 10, 2018, 06:33:55 AM
The question is about how you dress, not how you feel about crossdressers. Please note the "Crossdresser" on my avatar. I don't have hard drives full of pictures of myself, and I don't appreciate someone putting false characterizations like that out there.

Let's get back on topic.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Am I the odd one?
Post by: Faith on January 10, 2018, 07:10:17 AM
dress for the occasion. I do not prefer dresses. I don't have any need to wear one. However, I would like to get to the point where I could pull it off ... umm, rephrase .. look good in one. After a recent photo shoot that my wife put me through, I'm not ready.  I have seen many women (trans or cis? I don't know and it doesn't matter), anyway, I've seen many wearing dresses that look awful on them and again others that look great. It's all about the style and appropriateness. How you carry yourself, I'm sure, has a lot to do with it. I don't feel comfortable so that probably has a lot to do with it.

summation ...
I much prefer slacks and jeans (woohoo skinny jeans).