Before I realized I could change into my authentic self, I always thought that if I had been born male, I would have a small penis. I don't know why I felt that way, but I did.
I've read so many posts of men saying "I want a 2 inch packer/a small packer/I don't want to be too large/etc." I'm definitely NOT one of those men.
Now that I know I can actually CHOOSE the size I want to be, I have a "go big or go home" mentality. My packer, (which was given to me) is a 4.5 inch one of unknown origin. I've also decided that if I ever get a phallo, I'm going to see if I can have a cock that's 7 inches when erect. I also want a pack and play that's on the larger size. Why be small when you can choose to be fairly well-hung?
So I have a few questions for all of you men.
1.) Am I the only one that doesn't want to have a small packer?
2.) Since you can choose your size, why did you choose to be the size you are currently?
3.) Do you WANT a larger size or a smaller packer?
3.) If you were born cis, would you have wanted a larger cock when erect, or a smaller one?
4.) Do you still feel "manly" having a small packer if that's the size you've chosen? (I know size doesn't matter in relation to how manly someone is, but I'm curious.)
5.) If you have a pack and play, did you choose it for size or function?
6.) If you could, would you choose a smaller or larger play packer?
I can't be the only man out there that wants to be on the larger size...right?
Ryuichi
My basic ianswer to all of it is that as a black man, yes I want a big one. When I used a packer I only wore a larger size and I've requested 7 inches for phalloplasty. I've no clue why guys desire and request small dicks.
Quote from: CMD042414 on March 10, 2018, 07:10:55 AM
My basic ianswer to all of it is that as a black man, yes I want a big one. When I used a packer I only wore a larger size and I've requested 7 inches for phalloplasty. I've no clue why guys desire and request small dicks.
Excuse my intrusion on your thread gentleman. But I just wanted to say that Dick size is way more important to guys than most women. I know a lot of guys worry about how big it will be after their surgery but being too well endowed can actually be a handicap. If you have a really big Dick the first thing a woman or guy is going to think is if they can take it. My boyfriend is very well endowed and I was worried about being able to take it without it bruising my liver. Now I worry about having enough depth to take it after SRS.
Being a nice guy is much more important than having a large Dick.
Quote from: CMD042414 on March 10, 2018, 07:10:55 AM
My basic ianswer to all of it is that as a black man, yes I want a big one. When I used a packer I only wore a larger size and I've requested 7 inches for phalloplasty. I've no clue why guys desire and request small dicks.
As you can see from my pic, I too am black. Maybe because culturally-speaking, American men are made to believe that "African-American men are all well-hung," but I don't believe that's my reasoning for the most part.
I think I simply want something between my legs that I can feel proud of, even if its currently made of silicon. Two inches just won't give me that same sort of satisfaction.
Don't worry Julia, I don't wish to be porn star size. I simply want something a bit more on the larger size of normal. Iirc, the average American man is 6 inches. I want 7 inches. I think that's a respectable size. I've seen larger, both in porno films and irl, and frankly, too much larger than that is a bit scary to me.
And don't worry, I'm a nice guy!
Ryuichi
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Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 10, 2018, 08:20:09 AM
As you can see from my pic, I too am black. Maybe because culturally-speaking, American men are made to believe that "African-American men are all well-hung," but I don't believe that's my reasoning for the most part.
I think I simply want something between my legs that I can feel proud of, even if its currently made of silicon. Two inches just won't give me that same sort of satisfaction.
Don't worry Julia, I don't wish to be porn star size. I simply want something a bit more on the larger size of normal. Iirc, the average American man is 6 inches. I want 7 inches. I think that's a respectable size. I've seen larger, both in porno films and irl, and frankly, too much larger than that is a bit scary to me.
And don't worry, I'm a nice guy!
Ryuichi
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Yes you are a nice guy.😊
My feelings on the packer are that I don't want it t to look outsized on my 5'2 frame. Now I admit I haven't used an actual packer, but often even a rolled up pair of hiking socks looks like too much.
As for post surgery penis size: I don't want to look like I have a constant boner. Unfortunately with phallo you have the size you have all the time, not just when errect. My husband is also afraid of my feeldoe stout. I don't want a dick that he or future partners will be afraid of. That being said less than 3-4' and I would feel self-conscious. The girth is also an issue it can't be a soda can, but index finger is also a no go.
Basically I am afraid that with meta I will end up with a dick that looks prepubescent. But with phallo I am concerned about getting something that will constantly call attention to me, or make look like I am perving on the world.
It's one of those issues that grows on you, excuse the pun. Because at first just being as male as possible in all other aspects matters a lot more than how many inches you've got. Once those things are dealt with you can adopt a different attitude toward it. Cis men generally don't get to choose their size so in a way having the choice at all puts certain thoughts in your head.
So on that note I'd say it both does and doesn't matter. It doesn't matter when everything else needs sorted out first. And when you're onto the subject of your dick, well the size is a main thing, but possible not as major as how you want it to work, which will then determine the possible sizes...
1.) I must be in the minority of actually not bothering with the packer most of the time, due to do doing certain rigorous outdoors activities. It's an advantage not to have it being displaced. or having to think about it.
2.) I'd choose to be average size while unerect for my general genetics. I'm fairly active these days and I want to stay that way as long as I can, so going for something massive seems like it would get in the way of stuff that's important to do.
3.) Nah just average size for my breed, as it were.
3.) Well, like most guys I'm probably going to echo them and say it'd be better to be naturally bigger than naturally "noticeably small"
4.) Packers don't affect how I feel too much. I feel fine with or without them for the most part at this point.
5.) I'm just choosing for size atm
6.) Nah, I'd stick to current average
QuoteI can't be the only man out there that wants to be on the larger size...right?
You're not. As I said if nature made the call I'd rather it was bigger than not, and since it's me making the call I'd still rather it was decent sized. But it's probably the last thing on my list in terms of stuff I worry about at this point. I do worry about it some, because there is a possibility at times given some of my hobbies that I might have to take my kit off in front of people or wear stuff that doesn't hide a lot. Frankly I would have no problem doing either of those things if I was sorted in that dept., know what I mean.
I hope this isn't an intrusion, if so I apologize. I have a parallel to offer. I recently went for breast consultation. On one hand, I considered smaller for the sake of clothes fitting. On the other hand, there is the thought that, "I'm doing this, I want to take this chance to be big." In the end, I decided on 'proportional.' If you are big, a bigger penis might be aesthetically appropriate. The main thing is what you want. Balance look and function. Somehow I don't think the average guy is as big as 6 inches. In my experience black guys tend to be bigger. I think I was born 5 inches and if it wasn't for my brain not matching it, it was fine. I am not an expert in the wanting of any penis, on me anyway. lol
By reading your stuff, I agree you are nice Ryuichi.
Moni
About packers:
I don't own a packer. I am much more concerned with getting phalloplasty done as fast as possible than with buying a silicon dick.
I also wouldn't really care about the packer's size because I couldn't connect mentally to a piece of silicon anyway and it would always just be a piece of silicon in my pants to create a bulge and I couldn't call it my dick or whatever. To me packers are only like an upgrade of socks to stuff into the pants. So as long as they are forming a nice bulge they are doing the deed.
About dicks:
I want my dick to be proportional to my body, functional and aesthetically pleasing to me. I am of average height for men of my ethnicity and I think that an average sized dick [approximately15 cm for my ethnicity] would be fitting me and matching my body well enough.
To be honest I don't find enormously large dicks that almost look like the dude has a baseball bat dangling between his legs appealing in any way at all and I don't think it's the most convenient or ideal to have an extreme that's far from the norm. Not on other men and I don't want that on myself as well. And I know that the reputable surgeons in my country at least would all decline a request of building something gigantic and impractical like a 25cm dick for example.
Of course I wouldn't want a too small dick either especially considering that I am a top though.
I wouldn't mind if I found a partner after I have had phalloplasty what will enable me to finally date then and he turned out to have a small dick as small dicks are much more aesthetic and appealing than the baseball bat ones in my eyes anyway, so I wouldn't have a problem with a man who looked like a greek statue at all x'D However, I generally find proportion and balance to be the key, art class and drawing stuff might have influenced me there ;)
Greek statues have proportionally tiny dicks, because big ones are objects of comedy in ancient Greek culture, right? The Satyrs have big ones and are constantly balancing things on them for fun :P
I wouldn't want to be Dirk Diggler or anything.
I'm leaning towards meta rather than phallic because I don't think I could ever get used to the weight of something being down there and the look of it. I look penises on other people's bodies but not on mine. Plus it seems like it'd just get in the way honestly lol. Can't wear certain pants anymore, got to make sure I dint zip up my fly too quickly, got to readjust several times a day for comfort.
But maybe it's partly because as an ftm I'm rather on the bigger size so meta would work nicely for me.
I just want something average that will function as needed and look appropriate for my body. most guys are in the 5-6in range, with smaller or larger by a few inches being perfectly normal. i wouldn't personally want to be disproportionate in either direction. and since I'm on the short side, anything above average would draw too much attention to itself for my comfort. I'm not vain/looking for something to brag about (not saying anyone here is) so I don't care about impressing anyone with my size cause that's not what I want it for. I want as close to what I would have been born with naturally as possible.
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2018, 10:09:02 AM
I hope this isn't an intrusion, if so I apologize. I have a parallel to offer. I recently went for breast consultation. On one hand, I considered smaller for the sake of clothes fitting. On the other hand, there is the thought that, "I'm doing this, I want to take this chance to be big." In the end, I decided on 'proportional.' If you are big, a bigger penis might be aesthetically appropriate. The main thing is what you want. Balance look and function. Somehow I don't think the average guy is as big as 6 inches. In my experience black guys tend to be bigger. I think I was born 5 inches and if it wasn't for my brain not matching it, it was fine. I am not an expert in the wanting of any penis, on me anyway. lol
By reading your stuff, I agree you are nice Ryuichi.
Moni
A baby with a five inch dick? Holy ->-bleeped-<-! :laugh: ;D
Quote from: Kylo on March 10, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
Greek statues have proportionally tiny dicks, because big ones are objects of comedy in ancient Greek culture, right? The Satyrs have big ones and are constantly balancing things on them for fun :P
;D
Having a small dick was an ancient Greek beauty standard for men that was valued more and deemed more attractive than huge dicks and that was what they considered to be aesthetic and beautiful.
But they indeed put certain characteristics on men based on the size of their dicks. In the ancient Greek culture having a really large dick was seen as grotesque and ridiculous and was associated with negative traits such as stupidity, ugliness, having a mind clouded by lust and being animalistic and primitive.
Whereas the ancient Greek culture strongly valued intelligence, intellectuality, logic and rationality and they believed a small dick allowed men to remain more rational and logical.
I don't pack (currently), but I also have no interest in getting meta/phallo. That said, I LOVE my stout feeldoe for solo action. >:-)
If I start packing in the future, I'd probably go for something average sized, and then break out the big guns for play. I'm definitely a grower, and since I'm not particularly obsessed with penetrative sex, the theatrics of being larger is more important to me.
Personally, I actually quite enjoy being able to be whatever size, shape, and color that I want. But I've been doing kink for a long time, so getting into the headspace of using toys is well-traveled territory for me. Do I wish I had a real dick? Sure. But using silicone definitely has a whole slew of advantages that real dicks will never have. And personally, they're advantages that I quite enjoy.
CMD042414 summed it all up for me.
As a mixed guy, yes I do want a big one.
Yes, I acknowledge not all ethnic men have big D's but I want to be the one who does have one.
Now when I say big, 7 to 8 inches is my ideal.
I want 7 inches when I go for phallo.
I would even be fine with 6.
I don't understand some guys who opt for small packers, but sometimes I get it.
I'm taller than the average trans guy, so me being tall makes a 4 inch packer look even smaller.
A 5'2 guy could probably play it off better.
I don't know if cismen only worry about dick size to please women (I doubt it) but I prefer the "size" that comes most natural to my build and height, which would be well... more than this silicone sh... I got going on right now ;D
So yeah, for me it's important, and unrelated to any partner, as it's already been proven the partner will enjoy it regardless. Having a big pecker can be a disadvantage, a friend of mine has trouble in bed because he's too large for her.
Packer wise however... it can't stand up, so I don't worry about it. Ah, and I live in absolute abstinence (only partly by choice), so it doesn't matter much.
Let's not forget that for some of us, vaginal depth is irrelevant because we're not sleeping with women. ;P
Cultural differences play a huge part in this. For example i myself, would probably not give any credence to Greek mythology or anything. It's not a myth that men of color, particularly men of African descent, are a bit larger. So for me 7 inches is normal. Also I am 5'8.
As a trans girl who recently got SRS, I hope I'm not intruding and I really don't know much my perspective will be valuable here but I concur with Julia that being a nice guy is much important than having a huge dick. I know you all guys want to be comfortable in your skin and it's not just to please women, I know, especially since many may not be into women at all, but if it is, just be warned. Most women would prefer a guy who knows how to work it than one who'll just shove it in there and skip any kind of foreplay and sexual build-up. That's very important for most girls, myself included. Don't feel like you can never measure up because you can. Just my 2§.
Love,
Quote from: Aurorasky on March 11, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
As a trans girl who recently got SRS, I hope I'm not intruding and I really don't know much my perspective will be valuable here but I concur with Julia that being a nice guy is much importante than having a huge dick. I know you all guys want to be comfortable in your skin and it's not just to please women, I know, especially since many may not be into women at all, but if it is, just be warned. Most women would prefer a guy who knows how to work it than one who'll just shove it in there and skip any kind of foreplay and sexual build-up. That's very importante for most girls, myself included. Don't feel like you can never measure up because you can. Just my 2§.
Love,
Of course you wouldn't know that from all the transwomen gnashing their teeth in the various "Dear God, what if I don't get maximum depth?" topics. :laugh:
Quote from: November Fox on March 10, 2018, 10:44:23 PM
Ah, and I live in absolute abstinence (only partly by choice), so it doesn't matter much.
So do I, I have never considered using that stuff that's currently still on my body and the mere thought grosses and always grossed me out beyond believe.
I have never met another transguy who also lives in complete abstinence before.
And even though I am not planning on staying abstinent any longer after phalloplasty that question isn't what concerns me when it's about choosing my dick size. And women are out of the picture anyway because I am not attracted to them at all.
What concerns me much more when it comes to sex is my inexperience. I mean I am in my mid-twenties, will probably be in my late-twenties already when phalloplasty is completed and am a gay total top without any experience and I am asking myself what guy my age or older would even be up to being with an inexperienced top.
Quote from: CMD042414 on March 11, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
Cultural differences play a huge part in this. For example i myself, would probably not give any credence to Greek mythology or anything. It's not a myth that men of color, particularly men of African descent, are a bit larger. So for me 7 inches is normal. Also I am 5'8.
Just for clarification as there
might have been a misconception here!
I am not giving it any credibility or credence and I am not taking it serious either. I certainly don't believe that one can determine a man's personality based on his dick size because that would be ridiculous. I am basing nothing off of that but was just talking about those ancient Greek standards as I find it interesting and a tad funny in comparison to the
'the bigger - the better - the manlier' perception of
today's Western societies that's on the same level and not less ridiculous than the
ancient Greek one in my opinion.
I am also not from the antiquity and I am not Greek :P So it's not my culture even though ancient Greece had a strong influence on Europe.
I'm Germanic, I am 6ft and for me 15 cm would be average and fitting my height which is also average for men of my ethnicity ;)
7 inches are approximated 18 cm? Is that correct?
[My height is basically the only thing I know in ft because I had to convert it a lot in online conversations already ;D]
The Greek thing was us joking around.
Quote from: CMD042414 on March 11, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
Cultural differences play a huge part in this. For example i myself, would probably not give any credence to Greek mythology or anything. It's not a myth that men of color, particularly men of African descent, are a bit larger. So for me 7 inches is normal. Also I am 5'8.
I thought the general consensus was that black men - let's not use all MoC here because we know that many of the stereotypes for other men aren't so flattering - and white men were more or less the same when erect, and that the major difference was flaccid length?
I don't pack at the moment, and I'm leaning toward not having lower surgery. Everybody's junk grosses me out, so I'm not actually in a hurry to trade one messy, problematic thing for another. For me, the only advantage to looking as cis as possible down there is to gain access to the privileges of cisness. Assuming I passed, I could see myself packing if I wanted to go to a public beach or men's locker room or somewhere like that. After all, not fully looking the part can get you shunned, beaten up, or killed.
If I had phallo I'd probably just want to be average/proportional, which might mean I'd be a little small, given that I'm 5'4". As for choosing a packer, I might go with a smaller one since I hear many of the larger models fold funny in your pants, and make you look like you have a constant boner. I really don't want to walk around looking like I'm perving out at random things.
I ended up deciding to wait and find out what others would say before I respond, I hope you all don't mind. I suppose you could all consider this part of my phallo research.
CMD042414, seems like we're on a similar wavelength. Like I mentioned in my original post, I don't understand why someone would want a small dick should they get a phallo.
I can understand wanting a phallo that fits one's body size, but why not go a little longer if you can? A 7"/18cm cock isn't too much more than a 6"/15cm one, and for my mental well-being, that extra length would make me a very happy man.
I AM seriously considering a meta in the future, but IF I decide to go all the way and get a phallo, I want it to be a decent length. I have no problems being semi-erect all the time, as long as its the length I want. But, I also want to be a normal girth. If its too big around in girth for my partner to enjoy, then there goes a decent part of why I'd even want a phallo in the first place. No pop-can girth for me, nothankyouverymuch!
Nice fitting clothes is also something I will have to take into consideration. I tend to wear skinny jeans, and my 4.5" packer gives me a decent bulge. If I have to have a cock that will remain the same size limp or erect, I will err on the side of slightly longer than average, even if its only an inch/2.5cm longer than normal. I definitely don't want a baseball bat in my pants, but I also don't want something that is so small that I'd need a magnifying glass to find it. ;)
If I have to tuck or whatever longer guys do to fit into tight pants, then I suppose I'll just have to learn what it is they do.
I'm not vain, I just want to be a respectable size, both for my mental well-being, and to be able to please my partner as well. At 5'7&1/3rd "/171cm, I feel that 7"/18cm would be a nice size for someone of my height and build.
I have both a 6"/15cm strap-on and a 8"/20.5cm one, and the 6 inch one seems to be too short for me when I look into my full-length mirror, while the 8 inch one is too long. So it seems to me that my Goldilocks zone is 7 inches.
I also DO know how to please my partner, so having a cock that I'm not only proud of, but know how to use along with foreplay and even afterplay would just enhance our fun.
And no, I'm also not into women. My partner is a genderfluid transman. A nice length and dick of a normal girth would only enhance our sex life.
Everyone's responses has definitely given me plenty to think about.
Ryuichi
I'm eager to hear more opinions/comments! [emoji4]
Ryuichi
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to the recurring question of "if you can, why not?", the answer for me is more of a "why should I?" so many guys who are average and even above average in size are under the false impression that they're smaller than normal thanks to pressure and insecurities pushed on them by peers, media, society, etc. I am all for letting this unhealthy misconception die. please don't take this to mean I'm putting down anyone who is or wants a bigger size! if you find what's comfortable for you and suits you and your needs, then that is perfect. it's just a matter of taste. I feel no pressure to be any bigger than I "should" be, not that I take any issue with that, just that I lack any reason to go beyond what I feel like I would have if I were naturally average. a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it, i guess you could say.
Quote from: Kylo on March 11, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
The Greek thing was us joking around.
Oh yea I totally got that lol. No worries there. It's a reference not on my radar is all.
Quote from: meatwagon on March 12, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
to the recurring question of "if you can, why not?", the answer for me is more of a "why should I?" so many guys who are average and even above average in size are under the false impression that they're smaller than normal thanks to pressure and insecurities pushed on them by peers, media, society, etc. I am all for letting this unhealthy misconception die. please don't take this to mean I'm putting down anyone who is or wants a bigger size! if you find what's comfortable for you and suits you and your needs, then that is perfect. it's just a matter of taste. I feel no pressure to be any bigger than I "should" be, not that I take any issue with that, just that I lack any reason to go beyond what I feel like I would have if I were naturally average. a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it, i guess you could say.
I see what you mean. Not everyone feels the need to be "huge," and there's nothing wrong with that.
OTOH, I personally would feel better about myself if I was "a bit on the larger side of average" should I ever choose to get a phallo. For me, its a question of what I feel I should have in order to be comfortable with myself.
Ryuichi
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Adding my two cents here for what it's worth...
I have one packer, 4.5" and I really like it for packing. It's a bit on the large side compared to a cis flaccid penis but it's realistic (by Reelmagik) and I like the weight/sensation of it there. Makes me feel good.
I'm most caught up in the sensation and aesthetics of a prospective penis. I'd like to be able to top. I'd like it to look good. Some of the phallo results I've seen are really girthy and that doesn't work for me, along with the big flap of skin that's needed. The meta results look good but obvs, smaller and no penetration happening there.
More than anything, I want a penis to feel part of me, to have full sensation. I wish I could ejaculate but I don't think that's possible? I haven't done too much research into bottom surgery at this point.
In the meantime, I have my packer and I've also just ordered the Rod from Transthetics, which is about 3" and right for a flaccid cis penis. I'd like something to play with that's at least 6", but haven't done yet. Soon.
Hope my rambles help, Ryuichi. :)
Quote from: Hughie on March 13, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
Adding my two cents here for what it's worth...
I have one packer, 4.5" and I really like it for packing. It's a bit on the large side compared to a cis flaccid penis but it's realistic (by Reelmagik) and I like the weight/sensation of it there. Makes me feel good.
I'm most caught up in the sensation and aesthetics of a prospective penis. I'd like to be able to top. I'd like it to look good. Some of the phallo results I've seen are really girthy and that doesn't work for me, along with the big flap of skin that's needed. The meta results look good but obvs, smaller and no penetration happening there.
More than anything, I want a penis to feel part of me, to have full sensation. I wish I could ejaculate but I don't think that's possible? I haven't done too much research into bottom surgery at this point.
In the meantime, I have my packer and I've also just ordered the Rod from Transthetics, which is about 3" and right for a flaccid cis penis. I'd like something to play with that's at least 6", but haven't done yet. Soon.
Hope my rambles help, Ryuichi. :)
Your two cents worth is definitely worth it, Hughie! Its cool to know that I'm not the only man that wants to be on the larger size of penis-ness. :) Its great to hear once again that I'm not the only man that feels this way.
Again, thanks to everyone that's responded. ;D
I love how it looks when I walk around with my 4.5 inch packer, and so does my partner. We switch when it comes to sex, and I want to be able to penetrate someday. Can't do that with a meta, and I would just feel inadequate if I had something that didn't let me feel like a man. Sure, dick size is irrelevant when it comes to how a man feels, but I want what I want. I don't want a girthy dick, just a extra inch.
I'd like to get a Rod, especially since I want a meta, but right now I'd rather have a Joystick, especially since they're 7" long. I want to see how 7" feels when its "attached" to my body, even if its via a pair of tight underwear or a harness.
Maybe I'll start packing with my 8" strap-on, just to get a feel for what its like.
Thanks for your thoughts, Hughie!
Ryuichi
I have a 2" snubnose, or what use to be called a detective special that shoots both .38 and .357mags. Also a 4" 9mm. Pain in the butt to carry them anymore - getting too hold for it.
Quote from: Cassi on March 13, 2018, 02:36:00 AM
I have a 2" snubnose, or what use to be called a detective special that shoots both .38 and .357mags. Also a 4" 9mm. Pain in the butt to carry them anymore - getting too hold for it.
:o To misquote Game of Thrones, "I know nothing about guns, Jane Snow!" And as a Paramedic, and having seen what they can do, I don't really care for them.
But thanks for your...interesting...post. :laugh:
Ryuichi
I'm glad you received my attempt at humor well.
I have not come very far in my decisions. One day I want meta, another day I want phallo. But the phallos I've seen, are not 100%. They look not natural. But maybe the surgery techniques advance until it's my turn to decide what I want.
If the phallo would look good and work good enogh I'd go for 5". I'm short. It'd look stupid having a dick reaching my knee caps. :,D
Tony
First of all I don't bother with a packer. It would look especially strange right now seeing as I haven't been on T yet and don't pass as male.
Quote from: KarlMars on March 13, 2018, 05:07:31 AM
First of all I don't bother with a packer. It would look especially strange right now seeing as I haven't been on T yet and don't pass as male.
Perhaps if you dress male, bind and develop male mannerisms, you might pass. When I was pre-T, I used to say "I'm a guy, I just have a high voice," but that's me. Not everyone has that kind of self -confidence. If I had a packer when I was pre-T, I definitely would have used it, especially since I was already binding.
I tried on my two strap-ons again, and there's definitely a difference in girth as well as length in the two. I first put on the 6" one, and it seemed too thin as well as too short for a guy of my size.
I don't know if you can tell by my icon pic, but I'm a bit on the stocky side. Not really fat, but after years of "carrying people for a living," (Paramedic joke!), I have developed broad shoulders, a broad chest and muscular arms and legs, something I've retained even though I've been disabled since 2010.
I measured the 6" strap-on, and at 12.5cm at the base, it seemed too skinny for a stocky guy like myself. The 8" strap-on, OTOH, at 15.5cm at the base seemed too thick/fat. So maybe my Goldilocks zone is 14cm. Idunno.
Either way, I took notes on these new discoveries. This is definitely something I would talk to a phallo surgeon about in the future, should I decide that I want one.
Honestly, I'm really leaning towards getting a phallo. I REALLY want to be able to penetrate my partner with something that's ME, and not just a prothesis.
Ryuichi
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Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 13, 2018, 07:52:46 AM
Honestly, I'm really leaning towards getting a phallo. I REALLY want to be able to penetrate my partner with something that's ME, and not just a prothesis.
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That's the kicker for me for function, being able to penetrate with my actual body and not a prosthetic. That would be the dream scenario. I want to try a Bono too but it's definitely not part of my body so mentally that may be a hard shift. We'll see.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 12, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
A 7"/18cm cock isn't too much more than a 6"/15cm one, and for my mental well-being, that extra length would make me a very happy man.
True. It's not too much more. 25 -30cm is what I'd call way too extreme and baseball bat territory.
I also appreciate that you wrote both in inches and cm =)
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 13, 2018, 12:15:00 AM
For me, its a question of what I feel I should have in order to be comfortable with myself.
I too think exactly that alongside functionality is the essential aspect! That's why we're having surgery in the first place to eliminate the crippling dysphoria and to finally feel comfortable and attached/connected to our bodies and the parts we have. And what different people feel comfortable with can differ strongly from individual to individual. So if a larger dick is what makes you feel good in your skin and you're comfortable with, that would be the right way for you to go I'd say. For another guy an average sized dick might be what he is comfortable with and can picture himself with and for yet another man a small one might be.
Quote from: Hughie on March 13, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
I wish I could ejaculate but I don't think that's possible? I haven't done too much research into bottom surgery at this point.
I wish that as well, a lot, but it unfortunately is not possible.
It also unfortunately isn't possible for the surgeons to create a foreskin so it looks like a dick without foreskin what was an odd thought for me when I first informed myself about phalloplasty.
But even though that's a pity I will never have a biological dick that can ejaculate and has a foreskin anyway and phalloplasty is the only and best option for me to get as close to having a bio dick as possible and that can enable me to finally live and not only vegetate with that insane amount of bottom dysphoria I have.
Quote from: KarlMars on March 13, 2018, 05:07:31 AM
It would look especially strange right now seeing as I haven't been on T yet and don't pass as male.
Not on T yet ≠ Not passing as male
I did pass as male pre-T. The only thing that sometimes made people question was the voice. That fact I compensated with not speaking when I wasn't forced to and speaking in a low tone when I had to. I hated hearing that voice anyway ;D
I'm scheduled to have a metoidioplasty in June. When I was deciding about bottom surgery, I had to factor in several things. A prioritized list of what I wanted to get out of bottom surgery and cost were really the two big buckets. I knew my surgery would not be covered by insurance so that was definitely a factor. However, if my list of "wants" only pointed toward phallo, I would have waited and gone that route. Ultimately, not having an "opening" anymore, being able to have a natural erection, and something that looked anatomically "normal" were my top 3 needs (in that order). The first and third would be mostly met by either surgery. The second pointed me more toward meta. T did well for me and I have just over 3 inches erect. That's not huge, and while it will be small as it relates to cis men, I felt that being able to have natural erections without a device or some other mechanism was more important to me than size. When I think about a device, I feel more dysphoric than thinking about being small. It may not provide enough length for mutually satisfying penetration, but there are plenty of things to do in the bedroom outside of that and toys/extenders and pumping I think will satisfy that need for my wife and I.
That was what led me to my decision. So while I lament not being hung with 6+ inches that ejaculates, ultimately my needs in other areas outweighs my desire for size.
With that being said, this is a deeply personal decision that needs to be made based on what is most important to the individual. What each person values is totally up to them and there is no wrong answer. Just make sure the decisions you make are because *you* want them and not because society tells you you should want them. Your happiness is really all that matters
Quote from: Dex on March 13, 2018, 01:14:33 PM
I'm scheduled to have a metoidioplasty in June. When I was deciding about bottom surgery, I had to factor in several things. A prioritized list of what I wanted to get out of bottom surgery and cost were really the two big buckets. I knew my surgery would not be covered by insurance so that was definitely a factor. However, if my list of "wants" only pointed toward phallo, I would have waited and gone that route. Ultimately, not having an "opening" anymore, being able to have a natural erection, and something that looked anatomically "normal" were my top 3 needs (in that order). The first and third would be mostly met by either surgery. The second pointed me more toward meta. T did well for me and I have just over 3 inches erect. That's not huge, and while it will be small as it relates to cis men, I felt that being able to have natural erections without a device or some other mechanism was more important to me than size. When I think about a device, I feel more dysphoric than thinking about being small. It may not provide enough length for mutually satisfying penetration, but there are plenty of things to do in the bedroom outside of that and toys/extenders and pumping I think will satisfy that need for my wife and I.
I get it, bro. Having a dick of your own that can have natural erections IS something that I have thought about, but for me, its not nearly as important as being able to penetrate is. I don't mind having an internal pump, as long as I have that ability. Even with what growth I have now, I have the desire to be able to penetrate something, even if its something like a Bro Sleeve.
Ejaculation would be a bonus, but from what I've read, its such a rare occurance that I might as well discount it. (Iirc, its from a gland similar to the prostrate in cis men that we have.)
Maybe I should try pumping, even if it doesn't give me a cis-length cock, it might help allieviate some of the dysphoria I currently have about "being inadequate." I know and understand that "its all mental," but dysphoria doesn't care if it's illogical, as we all know.
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That was what led me to my decision. So while I lament not being hung with 6+ inches that ejaculates, ultimately my needs in other areas outweighs my desire for size.
With that being said, this is a deeply personal decision that needs to be made based on what is most important to the individual. What each person values is totally up to them and there is no wrong answer. Just make sure the decisions you make are because *you* want them and not because society tells you you should want them. Your happiness is really all that matters
Honestly, I don't give a flying flip about "what Society thinks a man should have down there." I just want to be able to satisfy my (instinctual?) need to penetrate, have what I feel I would have had if I had been born cis AND satisfy my partner. For me, those are three excellent reasons for wanting that extra inch/cms.
Ryuichi
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Oops, meant this for the body language thread.
Yeah, I wasn't super clear. Ejaculation is exceedingly rare and would always be "something missing" regardless. I'm glad you have prioritization of what your needs are. That's the most important thing and I found processing my thoughts in that way and realistically looking at what each surgery could offer me made the decision much easier for me. If size is one thing that is non-negotiable, then phallo is definitely the way to go.
I definitely get the desire/urge to penetrate. I can penetrate something like a bro sleeve now, a little bit (it's obviously limited because of the current structure of the anatomy like ligaments and such) and being able to have some penetration at all post surgery is an endless source of fantasy for me now. I think in certain positions, particularly if I pump prior, I'll be able to accomplish that.
I would definitely recommend trying pumping if you think it will help. Even with my current anatomy, it is hugely dysphoria relieving just because it really does give it more girth and length. My doctor does recommend it. It does take diligence and routine to get any long term gains but even the short term aesthetic is appealing to me.
Oh I know all about the mental battles with dysphoria. I am an INTP on the Meyers/Briggs scale. All logic and practicality. I really struggle with dysphoria for that reason. I can't "fix" it, and it seems impossible to put it in a box on the shelf like I do with most things I can't fix. I get the feelings of inadequacy as well - my wife has only ever been with cis men before me. While she never (never) makes me feel less than or implies that I'm not "enough", I know that the reality is that I don't have what they did. You do you, man. Whatever you need to be happy.
I agree with your reasons as well. I hope you didn't think I was implying you do care or are making decisions based on what society thinks. It was more of a general comment that cis/trans/male/female/NB/etc, we all have to decide for ourselves who we should be and how we present ourselves to the world. A lot of times, society will tell us we "need" to be something or not be be something in order to be one of the tribe. In a way, trans folk are better able to establish for themselves who they want to be because we are already pushing back against societal norms by nature of existing. I was only expressing support for any decision that is deeply held and satisfying personally, not admonishing you. So I apologize if it came across that way.
Don't worry bro, we're good. But you HAVE given me things that made me think, and for that, I thank you. :)
I'm still considering a phallo, but at my age (56) and not yet having undergone top surgery, much less a meta, its something I'd have to give serious thought to. I'm pretty healthy, and I heal fast, but I also have to consider things like my high blood pressure now. Never having undergone any major surgeries before, I have no idea how my body will react.
I've not tried a Bro Sleeve yet, but I have a Blue Valentine, and even though the opening's large for a transman such as myself, I love that I can penetrate it nontheless.
I don't have a surgeon yet, since I'm still in the research phase, but I know that I'm ready to have my top surgery. I just hope that someone in my state can do the type of top surgery I need since its a relatively new technique. Once I heal from that, I'll have to consider if I'm willing to undergo any further surgeries. Chances are, I will, since I REALLY have the urge to be able to penetrate, even if its with a meta and a Rod device.
I'd like to get a pump, but I've hear two different schools of thought on whether or not they work to make one's junk any larger in the long run. Some people say they don't, but they make you feel like you have grown, and another group says that they do help growth to a degree. I'm seriously considering getting a pump anyways, but I'd like to get myself a Joystick first.
I really don't have body dyphoria as bad as many people I've seen here on the boards. After so many years with these parts, I've more of a "that's how I'm currently built, so I'm used to it"-type mentality. But once I start changing my body into my authentic self, I'm hoping that I will still not feel too terribly dysphoric.
And no, I didn't take your statement as "implying I care of what Society thinks." I simply stated that I didn't care what Society thinks *I* as an African-American man should have. I only care about what I feel will make me happy. If I actually DID care about what Society thinks, I'd probably end up with a 13"/33cm monster cock that cold never get fully erect.
For the record, I support your supporting! ;) We're good.
Ryuichi
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 13, 2018, 08:44:59 PM
Don't worry bro, we're good. But you HAVE given me things that made me think, and for that, I thank you. :)
I'm still considering a phallo, but at my age (56) and not yet having undergone top surgery, much less a meta, its something I'd have to give serious thought to. I'm pretty healthy, and I heal fast, but I also have to consider things like my high blood pressure now. Never having undergone any major surgeries before, I have no idea how my body will react.
I've not tried a Bro Sleeve yet, but I have a Blue Valentine, and even though the opening's large for a transman such as myself, I love that I can penetrate it nontheless.
I don't have a surgeon yet, since I'm still in the research phase, but I know that I'm ready to have my top surgery. I just hope that someone in my state can do the type of top surgery I need since its a relatively new technique. Once I heal from that, I'll have to consider if I'm willing to undergo any further surgeries. Chances are, I will, since I REALLY have the urge to be able to penetrate, even if its with a meta and a Rod device.
I'd like to get a pump, but I've hear two different schools of thought on whether or not they work to make one's junk any larger in the long run. Some people say they don't, but they make you feel like you have grown, and another group says that they do help growth to a degree. I'm seriously considering getting a pump anyways, but I'd like to get myself a Joystick first.
I really don't have body dyphoria as bad as many people I've seen here on the boards. After so many years with these parts, I've more of a "that's how I'm currently built, so I'm used to it"-type mentality. But once I start changing my body into my authentic self, I'm hoping that I will still not feel too terribly dysphoric.
And no, I didn't take your statement as "implying I care of what Society thinks." I simply stated that I didn't care what Society thinks *I* as an African-American man should have. I only care about what I feel will make me happy. If I actually DID care about what Society thinks, I'd probably end up with a 13"/33cm monster cock that cold never get fully erect.
For the record, I support your supporting! ;) We're good.
Ryuichi
I'm 34 and (unfortunately) have had more than my fair share of major surgeries (both transition related and orthopedic) and they're never easy. Your first one will help you get a handle on how your body recovers and how you handle post anesthesia. There's often a fair period of "WTF have I done!" Even when it's something that has to be done due to injury but you always come out better afterward.
I hope you're able to find an in state top surgeon as well. I went to someone local (but not well known in the trans community) for top surgery and recovering at home or close to home makes things much easier. My meta will be far from home and my stay will be just over 3 weeks in length including the pre-op visit the week of surgery through post op visits. It's a lot to consider, and a lot of cost, when you're talking being away from home for so long.
I am sure there is a lot of pressure on African American men to "be a certain way" and certainly everyone has heard the stereotypes about penis length. I'm glad you're doing what you're comfortable with. I agree that that gets a lot easier the older we get. I never really fit in anywhere, other than as a "nerd", so books and studying were where I took respite my entire life. In my opinion, people get far too caught up in what other people think. It pains me to watch my (step) kids (one a freshman in high school) and how brutal social hierarchy can be. I wish she could see how little what the people in high school think of you matters once it's all over.
I've heard mixed reviews on pumping for long term gains as well. My doctor told me at my consult that it does take a sustained, diligent effort to create long term gains. I know when I pump, for at least a few hours after and definitely while it's still engorged, it is substantially bigger than when I don't. I haven't gotten into too much of a routine yet but you can pump even post surgery so I plan to try at least a once a day regimen for these last 3 months before surgery and then post surgical (once I'm healed) to get what I can out of it. I will say that once I pump, immediately after, I can penetrate the bro sleeve pretty well. It's not going to turn 2 inches into 6, but it might make "barely penetrating" into "penetration".
On dysphoria, it's certainly not the case for everyone, but my dysphoria regarding the lower bits became unbearable after top surgery and my hysterectomy. The more the rest of my body began to look more like the person I saw in my head, the more the parts that didn't match began to bother me. I started this journey thinking I wouldn't need bottom surgery at all. I hope it remains manageable for you as you progress, I certainly wish mine had lol.
No matter what you do or don't do, good luck :)
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 13, 2018, 07:52:46 AM
Perhaps if you dress male, bind and develop male mannerisms, you might pass. When I was pre-T, I used to say "I'm a guy, I just have a high voice," but that's me. Not everyone has that kind of self -confidence. If I had a packer when I was pre-T, I definitely would have used it, especially since I was already binding.
I tried on my two strap-ons again, and there's definitely a difference in girth as well as length in the two. I first put on the 6" one, and it seemed too thin as well as too short for a guy of my size.
I don't know if you can tell by my icon pic, but I'm a bit on the stocky side. Not really fat, but after years of "carrying people for a living," (Paramedic joke!), I have developed broad shoulders, a broad chest and muscular arms and legs, something I've retained even though I've been disabled since 2010.
I measured the 6" strap-on, and at 12.5cm at the base, it seemed too skinny for a stocky guy like myself. The 8" strap-on, OTOH, at 15.5cm at the base seemed too thick/fat. So maybe my Goldilocks zone is 14cm. Idunno.
Either way, I took notes on these new discoveries. This is definitely something I would talk to a phallo surgeon about in the future, should I decide that I want one.
Honestly, I'm really leaning towards getting a phallo. I REALLY want to be able to penetrate my partner with something that's ME, and not just a prothesis.
Ryuichi
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It's not that I'm not confident. I am very confident. I already have male mannerisms naturally and effortlessly. I just think packers are pointless for me now.
I am just going to add my 2 cents.
I had phalloplasty done and asked for 6 inches. I just wanted to be average erect size and I had heard 6 inches was the average. (Now I hear the average might actually be a bit lower but OH WELL)
I am actually quite happy with 6 inches. Feels big for a flaccid penis, and maybe its just my underwear but sometimes getting it out of the fly area can be quite a feat because of the length, and that's something I honestly hadn't thought about before. I can only imagine if it were longer lol. For me, I think any longer would've been too long.
I also didn't want to look like I had a hard on all the time because of the size and luckily I apparently don't. Lol.
But yes, I went with 6 inches, and no regrets so far.
I'll be on the weird side of the trans experience and throw my thoughts in.
I don't typically pack. I generally find it a nuisance and the fact that it isnt really attached is kind of more dysphoric to me. I do sometimes get an appealing feeling out of it on the occasions
I do wear, mainly if I need to see myself with a realistic looking penis in the mirror or on myself, I get my brain to adjust it actually looks and feels a part of me so it's a cool feeling. It also does help when I go out to events when I need STP so I cant sit when things are too crowded and want to blend in. For functional purposes its 4.5, not the best for penetration but it would also work for that too if needed.
I'm also one of those people that's "okay" with my current junk and I have a "use what I've got" mentality. In a way, having a "trans" male body type seems attractive to me, kind of like a hybrid of physical traits despite still being a man, it's interesting. If I could though I'd prerer to have the other, I dont like all the current surgeries because I want all the functions of a typical penis including size, erection, and ejaculation. I dont have the funds either so at this time bottom surgery is a no go, Im hoping maybe someday this will change when laws do or more medical advances will become commonplace.
Im not picky about size, if I was a cis male and I had a penis, I'd hope it were "average", and hopefully uncircumcised though that isnt an option under my control (and I would have 100% been circumcised if I was). If I did end up small Id accept it as considered "cute" since I do bottom a lot, that's typically acceptable from that standpoint.. If I could choose, It'd probably be slightly above average (6.5), maybe a "grower" where its small when flaccid and larger erect. For whatever reason if I had one I imagine it'd be not super thick but on the longer side.
Overall, I'd just like one at all. Even a smaller one would be one at least, even if it were cut, etc.
1.) Am I the only one that doesn't want to have a small packer?
- I'm sure you're not, but I do want a small packer, if any. I do pack, but reluctantly and only when I'm outside somewhere social. I don't like it, but I feel even worse if I don't. I just need somewhat of a (small) bulge until I can get metoidioplasty. As I don't know if my package post-op will give me much of any bulge at all, this is a big reason for why I pack small now. Even if my package post-op will be too small to show any bulge at all, that won't matter to me, cause then I will have what I'm trying to simulate now, whether it will show or not, if that makes sense.
2.) Since you can choose your size, why did you choose to be the size you are currently?
- I felt uncomfortable with bigger, and smaller has always been easier for me to handle, both mentally and keeping it from not doing something it's not supposed to (like falling out of my pants, or not sitting right, for example).
3.) Do you WANT a larger size or a smaller packer?
- I want a smaller one. I'm not very short or very thin, as I'm 5'6" and average/medium with a weight of 135-ish pounds, so it's really only psychological that I just feel iffy with a bigger packer. I'm caucasian, but don't take my race into account.
3.) If you were born cis, would you have wanted a larger cock when erect, or a smaller one?
- I'd say kind of medium/average when erect (around 4-5 inch), and smaller when flaccid (around 3-4 inch). Well the inches are approximate cause I'm much more used to the metric system. So more exactly I mean around 10-12 cm hard and obviously smaller flaccid but how much wouldn't matter much to me. But long enough to stp, probably. For me "smaller" means quite close to average or slightly shorter. I'd also prefer if it was a bit thinner/less girthy.
4.) Do you still feel "manly" having a small packer if that's the size you've chosen? (I know size doesn't matter in relation to how manly someone is, but I'm curious.)
- Yeah that has nothing to do with dick size for me, as long as I have something there. I feel manly when I've just groomed my beard, or if my voice is a bit deeper than usually, when I'm handling drama/chaos very chill, when I can protect and be there for a friend in need, or when I can drink large amounts of alcohol and still stand on my feet, etc.
5.) If you have a pack and play, did you choose it for size or function?
- I don't. The thought has only briefly passed through my mind on occasion, out of curiosity. For sex I always just use my own anatomy, and I've never really been into the idea of penetrating a partner. It bothers, and honestly also saddens, me that I wouldn't be able to feel a partner if I used a play-packer, compared to if it was my real dick if I had one. I worry that I'd get very disappointed by the experience. If I would want to try it though, I would choose such a packer for function over size. Like one that could stimulate my external parts as well, or something. I would not choose one that goes into the front hole on me though, cause I don't like that.
6.) If you could, would you choose a smaller or larger play packer?
- In that rather (but not entirely) unlikely scenario, I would let my partner decide the size, as long as it's reasonable. The size of such a device wouldn't really matter for me, as I wouldn't be able to see it as a part of me, but simply as a temporary tool. As I'm having meta, I know I'm really unlikely to be able to penetrate with my own dick post-op (not a lot happening in the length department there), so I'd consider using a strap-on of some sort in a far distant future as well as a nearer one, then.
Additionally, I know I really don't care about the size of my partners' dicks (I'm gay) but I tend to actually prefer smaller. Cause to be really blunt about it: small dicks are a lot less likely to hurt in me or choke me. Sorry if I'm tmi. But my point is that big dicks really isn't better than small ones for me, but actually the other way around, and I think that affects my ideal for my own body as well. But then if a partner of mine would ask for an 8 inch, I also wouldn't protest if that's what he'd know he likes. I'm single now and quite rarely hook up these days, so that's highly hypothetical though, but some gay guys really can be "size queens" (although I do think most aren't).
I do have a lot of dysphoria about my parts, but I keep ignoring that and using them for sex anyway, cause my sex drive is so extremely high I literally can't keep a leash on myself. It's bordering to being self destructive, cause I step over my own boundaries. If I don't, I'm dissatisfied, beyond sexually frustrated and out of control - if I cross my own boundaries, I get sexually satisfied but my dysphoria spirals out of control and nearly crushes me. So, as that is a lose-lose situation... I keep altering between the two and hope it won't break me completely before my SRS. And I'm simply counting on that I will still struggle with getting my sex life in somewhat order after surgery has healed up and all as well, but I know in my heart it's the right decision and will be better for me in the long run. Just not without a fight first. Dick size is probably the least of my worries though.
Quote from: randomdude5 on March 14, 2018, 07:07:10 PM
I am just going to add my 2 cents.
I had phalloplasty done and asked for 6 inches. I just wanted to be average erect size and I had heard 6 inches was the average. (Now I hear the average might actually be a bit lower but OH WELL)
I am actually quite happy with 6 inches. Feels big for a flaccid penis, and maybe its just my underwear but sometimes getting it out of the fly area can be quite a feat because of the length, and that's something I honestly hadn't thought about before. I can only imagine if it were longer lol. For me, I think any longer would've been too long.
I also didn't want to look like I had a hard on all the time because of the size and luckily I apparently don't. Lol.
But yes, I went with 6 inches, and no regrets so far.
Is there a lot of feeling? How long ago did you have it done?
Freakin' fun question Ryuichi!!! Unfortunately I don't have a packer... :P so much of these won't apply to me! But will answer still:
I definitely used to share your attitude 'go big or go home'! I mean - if you can choose your size, why choose small, huh? Btw that's my attitude on everything in life: TV size, size of your home etc. etc. the bigger the better! And if you can get something bigger & better why get smaller? I even bought a huge dildo for my gf once. Since then I've learned that not all women appreciate huge dicks though... And I used to laugh at some trans guy friends who bought small packers, yeap.
I'm not that fanatic about size anymore, though... When sex is concerned the most important thing to take into consideration is your partner's size - you don't wanna hurt someone! And I've learned not many men have large cocks. I wanted a phallo once... now I'm not sure if I'll ever get any genital surgery. But you never know right...!
I def want as much growth as possible on T! (But I guess that's irrelevant as the maximum will still be a microdick anyway ;D)
If I had/bought a packer, hmmmermm... Well I wouldn't want a huge one - like I wouldn't want people to stare at it as a curiosity you know... But I wouldn't want a miniscule one either... I mean what's the point? I guess I'd go with a normal size then...? Yeah, I've come down a little from that 'the bigger the better' attitude. Let's say - as big as would be comfortably practical :D!
And again, as for pack & play I'd have to take my partner and their size into consideration...
As for STP I'd go for 'regular' - not huge, not embarrassingly miniscule either ;D
If I were born cis I'd like to have from avarage to big if I could choose! Maybe I wouldn't want a porn star size after all. And why would I want a small dick if I could decide?
Some people love big dick inside them - but not everyone does... What's the point having a humongous dick if you're gonna hurt your partner with it?
Quote from: PurpleWolf on March 19, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
Freakin' fun question Ryuichi!!! Unfortunately I don't have a packer... [emoji14] so much of these won't apply to me! But will answer still:
I definitely used to share your attitude 'go big or go home'! I mean - if you can choose your size, why choose small, huh? Btw that's my attitude on everything in life: TV size, size of your home etc. etc. the bigger the better! And if you can get something bigger & better why get smaller? I even bought a huge dildo for my gf once. Since then I've learned that not all women appreciate huge dicks though... And I used to laugh at some trans guy friends who bought small packers, yeap.
I'm not that fanatic about size anymore, though... When sex is concerned the most important thing to take into consideration is your partner's size - you don't wanna hurt someone! And I've learned not many men have large cocks. I wanted a phallo once... now I'm not sure if I'll ever get any genital surgery. But you never know right...!
I def want as much growth as possible on T! (But I guess that's irrelevant as the maximum will still be a microdick anyway ;D)
If I had/bought a packer, hmmmermm... Well I wouldn't want a huge one - like I wouldn't want people to stare at it as a curiosity you know... But I wouldn't want a miniscule one either... I mean what's the point? I guess I'd go with a normal size then...? Yeah, I've come down a little from that 'the bigger the better' attitude. Let's say - as big as would be comfortably practical :D!
And again, as for pack & play I'd have to take my partner and their size into consideration...
As for STP I'd go for 'regular' - not huge, not embarrassingly miniscule either ;D
If I were born cis I'd like to have from avarage to big if I could choose! Maybe I wouldn't want a porn star size after all. And why would I want a small dick if I could decide?
Some people love big dick inside them - but not everyone does... What's the point having a humongous dick if you're gonna hurt your partner with it?
I"m going to answer your post in the order you gave it. :)
I too belong to the "bigger is better" way of thinking...to some degree. For me, it depends on what we're talking about. Sometimes, just sometimes, smaller is better.
Since I'm gay, I don't care what women would think of me having a slightly larger than normal dick. My partner and I have already discussed what size he'd feel comfortable with, and he has no problems with me having a 7" phallo should I ever decide to get one. He definitely didn't seem too happy with the idea of me having a smaller one! Since we're in a long-term relationship, I really don't have any problems with waiting until I'm done with my top surgery and anything else I need to get done before I get my phallo.
For those that want smaller packers, more power to them. I"m simply not interested in a smaller package. My partner loves grabbing my 4.5" one, and hefting it. I get the feeling that he'd love it if it was not only real, but attached to my body via surgery! I"m okay with that, but he'll have to get used me being able to feel whatever it is he does if he does do it once my surgery is done. That's going to be a fun day indeed!
I have an average-sized cock currently. I've been on T for almost 16 months now, and I've grown to 2", which seems to be average for transmen. I"m good with that, but should I decide to get a phallo (which I'm currently leaning towards), the idea of me being on the larger size of average seems to excite my partner. ;D
I'd love to get a larger packer, and that's something that I might do in the future, if nothing more than to get used to the idea of having to figure out what to do with it in my underwear. Seven inches is normal, its just on the longer size of normal. I really don't want a pop can in my pants, so the girth would be pretty average for one of that length. Same with a STP. If I decide to get one, it too would be on the longer size. But as of now, the company that makes the one I would get only makes them in one size, and that size is on the smaller size.
My partner is excited by the idea of having MY longer dick (one that's NOT a strap-on!) inside of him, and I want a longer one, so we're both in agreement of what length I'd get should I finally get a phallo.
Ryuichi
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 20, 2018, 12:37:29 AM
My partner is excited by the idea of having MY longer dick (one that's NOT a strap-on!) inside of him, and I want a longer one, so we're both in agreement of what length I'd get should I finally get a phallo.
That's so cool! Lucky you :D!!!
So, for me I do pack, but primarily so I can STP. Thus my packer size is mainly determined by how well the stp works.
I've packed with everything from a six inch-er that was the first stp I could use reliably, down to my current packer that's about three inches and has the balls cut off.
In terms of what I potentially want from bottom surgery? 4" is great for me! I'm on the asexual spectrum so sex isn't too much of a concern for me honestly. But I know there are plenty of cis dudes that get it done with that length, so if I want to its not going to be an issue for me.
But also, WIDTH. I don't want a frigging sausage in my pants. I'm tall and very thin, I want my dick proportional width wise. This is just my personal opinion and is relevant strictly to me and my body, but I couldn't handle some of the soup can looking results I've seen pics of.
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But also, WIDTH. I don't want a frigging sausage in my pants. I'm tall and very thin, I want my dick proportional width wise. This is just my personal opinion and is relevant strictly to me and my body, but I couldn't handle some of the soup can looking results I've seen pics of.
Yeah, I get it too. No soup can/pop can dick for me either! I want one that looks as close to cis-girth as possible.
I've always wondered if PIV/PIA penetration could be done with those thick dicks?
Ryuichi
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Idk if it's because I've got a complex from being skinny, but I wouldn't mind being thick. And re: PIV/PIA, all you gotta do is be smaller than a fist and you're golden.
Quote from: Corax on March 11, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
So do I, I have never considered using that stuff that's currently still on my body and the mere thought grosses and always grossed me out beyond believe.
I have never met another transguy who also lives in complete abstinence before.
What concerns me much more when it comes to sex is my inexperience. I mean I am in my mid-twenties, will probably be in my late-twenties already when phalloplasty is completed and am a gay total top without any experience and I am asking myself what guy my age or older would even be up to being with an inexperienced top.
Allright, I hereby declare us Pre-Operative Abstinence Club!
I have got to say I completely understand what you are saying about lacking experience. Any experience I have is purely based on pre-transition experiences, which are out of the question (I don't want them anymore).
And so I am living as a thirty-year old virgin. So to speak. I have zero experience with women, and certainly curious as to how things are going to unfold post-op. I think many strange and awkward scenarios await me.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on March 24, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Yeah, I get it too. No soup can/pop can dick for me either! I want one that looks as close to cis-girth as possible.
I've always wondered if PIV/PIA penetration could be done with those thick dicks?
Ryuichi
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For some it works fine to receive penetration from such thick dicks, for others it's uncomfortable/painful. But, as a general rule: as long as you're careful and tending to your partner during sex, it should be fine with very girthy as well. It might require some "building up" to it, like go with something thinner first (such as toys or fingers) and then increase size. So yes, it can be done, but carefully.
Quote from: SeptagonScars on April 01, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
For some it works fine to receive penetration from such thick dicks, for others it's uncomfortable/painful. But, as a general rule: as long as you're careful and tending to your partner during sex, it should be fine with very girthy as well. It might require some "building up" to it, like go with something thinner first (such as toys or fingers) and then increase size. So yes, it can be done, but carefully.
I'm not too worried about it, IF I get a phallo, I just want a regular-sized one, not one of the pop-can sized ones. One that fits my body size.
Ryuichi
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on April 02, 2018, 12:17:20 AM
I'm not too worried about it, IF I get a phallo, I just want a regular-sized one, not one of the pop-can sized ones. One that fits my body size.
Ryuichi
I just thought I'd throw that info out there, in case it could be of interest. Yeah, and if it would end up being a little thicker than desired, you could get it slimmed with lipo. So I don't think you need to worry about it either.
Quote from: SeptagonScars on April 02, 2018, 06:31:00 AM
I just thought I'd throw that info out there, in case it could be of interest. Yeah, and if it would end up being a little thicker than desired, you could get it slimmed with lipo. So I don't think you need to worry about it either.
Oh man, is that great to know! :)
Ryuichi
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Quote from: Ryuichi13 on April 02, 2018, 07:07:08 AM
Oh man, is that great to know! :)
Ryuichi
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I've heard quite a few do that, especially some who have used thigh graft/flap, which does tend to sometimes give a girthier dick compared to other donor sites. So it's definitely possible to get it slimmed down!